To make people actually remember, here's it once for posterity: Minako is nonbinary and uses they/them. This message will be pinned so you people stop getting it wrong and pissing me off. If you get it wrong in the future I'm going to be much less nice, considering you have to scroll past it just to read the quest.
 
What ever happens next is going to be such an emotional mess, like holy shit.

And having magic powers to understand other people sure as hell won't help if it's going to hammer in how devastated Minakos parents will be.

And then for something different, wonder what Minakos weapon will be? Cliche answer would be somekind of a polearm, but I don't believe for a second it will be that.

Hmm, since they want to understand and magi originally meant someone wise, maybe they will become a more literal magical girl and get a mage staff. Or some kind of fortune telling tool, like a tarrot deck. Or a dowsing crystal, the kind you hang on a string. Only this would double as a meteor hammer.

Huh, that reminded me that there is actually a bladed version too, the rope dagger. That would combine things from both of Minakos parents. And now I just realized that would be a copy of Medusas weapon from Fate/Stay Night.

Back to hoping for a mage build, that way the Miki-Sakura family can be a self contained adventurer party, with a mage, a tank and dps :V.
 
I'm out.

This isn't a slight against the quality of Moid's writing, or even me saying this is a bad direction for the quest to go in. It's simply that I, personally, am not interested in reading the quest developing in this way. I don't mind Sayaka and Homura and everyone having faced difficulties or trauma or whatever in the time since SayakaQuest, and obviously there needs to be conflict for there to be a quest at all, but this in particular isn't something I hold any interest in.

Best of luck to you all. o7
 
Uh...
Eh, Mina, Mina, Mina. I don't even know where to start.

Selling your soul for understanding your parents and your girlfriend isn't the right way. Just so you know.
Probably wouldn't help anyway. Cuz you'll understand them.

Called it?

Why did I call it.
Can I uncall it, please?
Like, is there a reset button or something?
 
If I'm going to make a guess, I'd say this ends with Mina living alone on a mountain cause constant understanding of everyone around them will destroy their relationships.
Taking a shortcut to being closer to people is not going to work out for anyone involved.
 
What ever happens next is going to be such an emotional mess, like holy shit.

And having magic powers to understand other people sure as hell won't help if it's going to hammer in how devastated Minakos parents will be.

And then for something different, wonder what Minakos weapon will be? Cliche answer would be somekind of a polearm, but I don't believe for a second it will be that.

Hmm, since they want to understand and magi originally meant someone wise, maybe they will become a more literal magical girl and get a mage staff. Or some kind of fortune telling tool, like a tarrot deck. Or a dowsing crystal, the kind you hang on a string. Only this would double as a meteor hammer.

Huh, that reminded me that there is actually a bladed version too, the rope dagger. That would combine things from both of Minakos parents. And now I just realized that would be a copy of Medusas weapon from Fate/Stay Night.

Back to hoping for a mage build, that way the Miki-Sakura family can be a self contained adventurer party, with a mage, a tank and dps :V.

Dude they wished for understanding and their mom is a cop.

Mina's gonna throw the book at 'em.
 
If I'm going to make a guess, I'd say this ends with Mina living alone on a mountain cause constant understanding of everyone around them will destroy their relationships.
Taking a shortcut to being closer to people is not going to work out for anyone involved.

Minako, the Tibetan Social-Fu Monk, who lives on a mountain and doesn't accept students.
The only way you can become one is if you first make yourself so blatantly obvious even a blind walrus could figure you out.

I can see that.
 
If I'm going to make a guess, I'd say this ends with Mina living alone on a mountain cause constant understanding of everyone around them will destroy their relationships.
Taking a shortcut to being closer to people is not going to work out for anyone involved.

Can't say I'm down with the idea that interpersonal ignorance is bliss, tho.

Maybe a certain number of white lies are required to grease the wheels of a human relationship at some point, but like, human relationships also actually do manage to survive despite disgusting amounts of intimacy and mutual understanding. It's kind of how all long-term relationships work out for the better -- when you know someone so well that you know all of their bullshit, and they know you know all of their bullshit, but you love and care about each other anyways.

Supernatural understanding might make meeting new people really awkward and difficult, but I don't think it would present an impossible interpersonal obstacle, and if nothing else, I definitely don't think it would permanently ruin Mina's relationship with their family.
 
...

You know, given what we've been told so far...

Mina is going to get the best Guca teacher her parents can find (they themselves being to emotionally invested to teach effectively).

Cue them calling in the big guns.

Cue prim and proper Homura "that's Miss Akemi to you, young NB", with her hair in a bun.

(Also the main weapon of peace love and understanding is obviously a (point of view) gun, so there.)
 
Oh boy, here we go.

They'd seen too much. There's too much they want to do. Their mind goes back to Takane. To Takane lying on the ground. They think about how helpless they were.

Wait, Minako, what are you doing?

They think about how their moms want to keep them safe. They think about how every single thing they'd done to keep them safe was pointless because they found out anyway. There was no way out. There was no way this could have held together.

Well, they (Saya & Koko) could've told them (Mina) from the beginning, rather keeping it secret like a pair of idiots. Understable and sympathetic idiots, but still idiots.

'Have you come to a decision?'

No, Minako, don't tell me you're going to-

"Shut the fuck up." Minako raises their hands. "I'm not doing this for you."

At least they kind of know the bunnycat is a dick?

Minako keeps their eyes locked on the creature. They look up to the night sky, at the moon slowly drifting across. It's the Harvest Moon, massive and yellow in the night sky, hanging overhead in this filthy, grungy alleyway filled with decayed cardboard boxes and rotten fish and god it smells so bad.

But then they look down. "How strong would I be? I can't just sit back again. I don't want to do that again."

You really are your mothers' child, aren't you, Mina?

They said Kyubey was a liar. And, well, it is. To some extent.

Contracting would be fucking stupid. It would be putting their own life at risk. No wish is worth it.

No wish except...

Mina no. No no no no-!


Ah fuck.

They're gonna be witchbombed immediately, aren't they? That is one of their parents' central issues.
 
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Can't say I'm down with the idea that interpersonal ignorance is bliss, tho.
Ignorance has nothing to do with it. My issue is that Mina has taken a shortcut to a level of knowledge and intimacy that normally requires decades to acquire. Gaining that kind of information without the familiarity of time, especially when it's one sided is going to make interacting with others very difficult for both parties. It would not surprise me at all if they end up retreating from all interaction to deal with the problem.
 
At least the city has that giant Grief Seed, so Mina and their parents won't Witch out immediately after realizing how much all of them fucked up.
 
Children of magi? Yes. But the last child of a magi was well over a hundred years ago. He contracted, only to die the next day.'

So as long as Minako doesn't get mulched by a witch the next day then they're all good!

But seriously as soon as the update in my alerts I knew what was going to happen. It was a beautiful scene, I gotta say. But man the next several updates of Chapter 2 are going to be painful in a way that probably hasn't been experienced since the Witchbomb reveal in SayakaQuest 1.
 
Well, I guess stupid runs in the family as well. Mina, you dun goofed and that wish is gonna let you know in exquisite detail that you just screwed the pooch so hard it gave birth to a Space Wolf.
 
"We are not evil. Evil is just an excuse."

God, I never get tired of Moid's Kyubey. Unfailingly polite, passive aggressive rationalising on a scale to make the most ardent Worm Fanfic pause in disbelief, it's glorious.

You know what you did, you mangey cretin. They aren't the ones making excuses.
 
Uh, yeah, I...hoo boy there's no easy way to say it

I hate this

I hate that it throws away every bit of progress that was ever made

I hate that it leans so hard on every possible trauma button that they all broke

I hate that the only path forward is wretched, miserable, and full of pain

I accept that things change. I accept that "happily ever after" is a pipe dream. I even accept that sometimes shit just breaks. But this is just...darkness for the sake of darkness, and I hate it.

I'm sorry

I'll be going now
 
It's really pretty impressive. Because not only did you railroad this outrageously, you did it wrong.

Sayaka acted like she was Homura when the topic of Minako and magical girl life came up. Which is ridiculous because Sayaka of this quest knows for a fact how that went for actual Homura, and what did work instead to keep Madoka uncontracted. Namely telling people who would contract about the Witch Bomb so they realize that magical girls don't actually help with Witch problems, they just consume grief seeds until they run out and then become Witches.

Also, Minako systematically ignored everyone around them and made a contract to violate their privacy and find out things they could have asked about instead, but to be honest that's just personally disgusting rather than an objective mistake.
 
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Glorious.

The tragedy.

Why you make me feel this way, Moid.

Mina joins the losers' side.

My first thought was that was a terrible Wish. Hope Minako doesn't come to regret it.

Maybe it can work. Hopefully.
 
It's really pretty impressive. Because not only did you railroad this outrageously, you did it wrong.

Mostly my issue, It felt like this last update came out of nowhere. In a quest, I always thought that railroading was kept to a minimum. I've only read a few of these, but it doesn't seem like this kind of thing is the norm.

Having a story beats and a goal of getting to them is one thing, but having a collective choice in how it gets there is the point, no?

It wouldn't be that hard to get the thread to vote for a contract, if you do maybe one or two more witch situations like the last one, it'd happen in a heartbeat. This last update seems...hasty? Dogmatic? Authorial intent turned into fiat and now people are reacting negatively.

I'm not mad, myself. I come into a Moid quest expecting....a certain amount of contained negativity on the part of the QM and from the thread itself. I'll probably be lurking around to see how this pans out, but it's an odd move.

Thematically, it works well enough, but we could have gotten here without being forced and a lot of people here were invested in keeping the young one as far from contracting as possible, and yet...here we are and without a single vote?

Poor form.
 
Also, Minako systematically ignored everyone around them and made a contract to violate their privacy and find out things they could have asked about instead, but to be honest that's just personally disgusting rather than an objective mistake.
To be fair, everyone around Minako systematically ignored them, trying to keep magic in secret. And when Mina found out about it, well, they also found out that everyone around them are horribly traumatised by magic and can't really talk about it without breaking down.
And Minako is not heartless enough to say "Yeah, I don't care this topic makes you cry. Talk with me, dammit!"
So, the wish was really the only way.
 
Damn, Minako's Wish makes too much goddamned sense.

Mina doesn't want to be a child anymore. Yet they don't understand, or feel they don't understand, pretty much anything around them any more. Not their parents, not their girlfriend, what about themselves?

Not just that, but finding out they've been lied to (secrets have been kept from them) all their infancy and up until now, when they find out all this shit by sheer chance.

In Mina's mind, being kept in the dark must be akin to remaining a silly little ignorant child, and they can't stand that anymore. They need to know. Or they feel they must, in order to grow the fuck up.

Sayaka and Kyouko are gonna write a book.

"So you thought your kid's rebellion phase was bad."

Somewhere out there, Homura will sneeze.

What ever happens next is going to be such an emotional mess, like holy shit.

And having magic powers to understand other people sure as hell won't help if it's going to hammer in how devastated Minakos parents will be.

And then for something different, wonder what Minakos weapon will be? Cliche answer would be somekind of a polearm, but I don't believe for a second it will be that.

Hmm, since they want to understand and magi originally meant someone wise, maybe they will become a more literal magical girl and get a mage staff. Or some kind of fortune telling tool, like a tarrot deck. Or a dowsing crystal, the kind you hang on a string. Only this would double as a meteor hammer.

Huh, that reminded me that there is actually a bladed version too, the rope dagger. That would combine things from both of Minakos parents. And now I just realized that would be a copy of Medusas weapon from Fate/Stay Night.

Back to hoping for a mage build, that way the Miki-Sakura family can be a self contained adventurer party, with a mage, a tank and dps :V.
How about a bow, to go with that pink Soul Gem?

When Homu sees it...
 
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