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[X] Do You Want a Medium or Large Crater Without Treason
  • We need views - even if we can't all hit 1T, getting at least some of us to that point would be good.
  • What do people love? Explosions and Moose. The bigger, the better. (For both.)
  • The plan:
    • Reach out to the other humans. Explain the view/race stuff - are they close?
      • Southern Pride: fuck em. We're not spending resources on keeping them alive and probably ruining our relationships with the Valkyries in the process.
      • Valkyries: how'd you like to be famous for something other than foot stuff?
      • Anyone else they know is welcome.
      • We're looking for a floor 2 finale teamup. One big fucking explosion and more charred Vespa parts than a fire sale at scooter hoarder's estate.
    • The more fights we get in, the more risk we run. We want one big blowout.
      • Pool our supplies and scout the area for somewhere we can turn into the mother of all kill zones. Lure as many Vespa as possible, detonate, and get the fuck out of dodge.
      • Calliope pulled by Moose makes for a pretty great lure.
      • Can Drew move balloons around? Bags full of gas? That sort of limited telekinesis could come in handy.
      • We probably have some flammable gasses with us, or we can make them: hydrochloric acid and iron sulfide make hydrogen sulfide, which is very dangerous stuff...
      • Get as many Vespa (and other mobs) in as small an area as possible and hit the trigger. Set up and set off almost everything (keep a little back for floor 3) in as dramatic a fashion as possible.
I intend to make more changes later, but this'll do for now.
 
I'm going to post a teamup plan: Trick Shot, Southern Pride, the Valkyries, and any other humans we can find join forces to show off one of the biggest reasons we're apex predators: tactics. Teamups sell and that looks like enough juice for an explosion the viewers back home will feel in their back teeth or the equivalent.


I also like this.

Furthermore, EJ this and the MfD were update and an awesome send off to a pretty rad day. Thank you

[X] (Departure) Wander the halls until we all hit 1T views, then fort up
 
Feel free to vote for it...
- I'm not sure what you're thinking of. You've executed on all the achievements that you're aware of, and made sure to copy them among the whole team.
My understanding is that we've been getting (bronze or lower) loot boxes on a not-irregular basis: this is how we keep up our supply of explosives. Do we know roughly how quickly we get them, what we do that gets them, etc.?
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Romance dramas are popular.
This is a good idea. I'll incorporate it.
 
Plan updated.
[X] Do You Want a Medium or Large Crater With That?
  • We need views - even if we can't all hit 1T, getting at least some of us to that point would be good.
  • What do people love? Explosions. The bigger, the better. (Also, Moose.)
    • Spend our remaining time gearing up for a single big explosion. Farm loot boxes (trade achievement notes with other teams?) and do some more fun chemistry.
    • Scout the area for somewhere we can turn into a good kill zone.
    • Lure a bunch of Vespa as possible, detonate, and get the fuck out of dodge.
      • Moose-towed Calliope is a great lure.
      • Acetic acid and isobutanol attracts wasps, as well as mundane stuff like sugar water. Talk it up, get the AI on board.
    • Keep the bare minimum to survive the first few minutes of floor 3 but use everything else.
  • Reach out to the other humans. Explain the race/view stuff - are they close?
    • Valkyries: how'd you like to be famous for something other than feet?
      • If everyone agrees, ask Southern Pride if they wanna show these bastards some good ol' fashioned American firepower.
    • Others they know are welcome.
    • Pool resources and execute on the plan.
  • People like romance subplots, too.
    • If the age gap wouldn't be weird, and with Drew's consent, see if you can get one/some of the Valkyries flirting with Drew, or him flirting with them. Sanity-check with Calliope, too.
      • Lovable stoner and tough-as-nails warrior woman is trope-adjacent.
    • This is a fictional romance arc for the sake of views etc. Negotiate boundaries and scripts in advance.
      • The intention isn't an actual relationship. Drawn out will-they-won't-they gets views, and shows hit their low points when their romantic leads get together.
    • Be clear this is business and not a proposition. Drop it with apologies if there's any hesitancy.
    • Encourage Drew to go after this - or if not this, something else that's grabby. We need him alive, and views mean survival.
It's maybe a little wordy but most of that is the romance subplot where I spent wordcount trying hard to make sure that this wasn't, like, gross.

Oh, and I don't involve Southern Pride unless everyone is on board, too.

Our real superpowers are teamwork and politeness - Levi, the talk show host, and the Bopcas have all been impressed with our manners.
 
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[X] Do You Want a Medium or Large Crater With That?

Would we be allowed to have brought these in our inventory?
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I have a proposal, but medium or large crater will probably win.
[X] Get out there and Kill kill kill!
Aggressively murder everything in an attempt to keep their numbers from getting terribly high until it's time to go or we run out of resources. The name of the game is numbers!
 
[X] Do You Want a Medium or Large Crater With That?

Would we be allowed to have brought these in our inventory?
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The melting furnace sure although there's only a couple tanks of propane. The aluminum, sure. Makes sense to bring some aluminum for casting light/strong objects and some lead for casting ammunition etc.

The potassium permanganate seems dubious. What are you looking to do with it? Unless I'm missing something in my googling, the only dungeon-relevant use it has is to be mixed with ethelyne glycol in order to burn. EG in turn has no relevant use except that, so this is a high-volume low-use item that could have been better replaced with more gasoline.
 
The melting furnace sure although there's only a couple tanks of propane. The aluminum, sure. Makes sense to bring some aluminum for casting light/strong objects and some lead for casting ammunition etc.

The potassium permanganate seems dubious. What are you looking to do with it? Unless I'm missing something in my googling, the only dungeon-relevant use it has is to be mixed with ethelyne glycol in order to burn. EG in turn has no relevant use except that, so this is a high-volume low-use item that could have been better replaced with more gasoline.

From Wikipedia:
"Potassium permanganate is sometimes included in survival kits: as a hypergolic fire starter (when mixed with glycerol antifreeze from a car radiator;[23][24][25] as a water sterilizer; and for creating distress signals on snow"

I figured it would make sense to have some just in case clean water became an issue, and having a water sterilizer that can also spontaneously combust gives it versatility.

As for what I'm actually trying to do with it, I want to have a container with a brick or something to set to crucible of molten aluminum on next to the KMnO4 and set a distributor cap on it. Nano-thermite thermobaric explosion follows. I can make do with smaller quantities or even without it as long as he's also got some cast iron to melt.

I'm still trying to figure out the lethal radius to make sure Leo's gravity manipulation will let her skate away fast enough to survive activating it, but it seems promising.
 
I wonder how many people of this quest has gotten on some watch lists. (Jokes)

Hello, FBI this is just completely normal sv questers.
 
From Wikipedia:
"Potassium permanganate is sometimes included in survival kits: as a hypergolic fire starter (when mixed with glycerol antifreeze from a car radiator;[23][24][25] as a water sterilizer; and for creating distress signals on snow"

I figured it would make sense to have some just in case clean water became an issue, and having a water sterilizer that can also spontaneously combust gives it versatility.

As for what I'm actually trying to do with it, I want to have a container with a brick or something to set to crucible of molten aluminum on next to the KMnO4 and set a distributor cap on it. Nano-thermite thermobaric explosion follows. I can make do with smaller quantities or even without it as long as he's also got some cast iron to melt.

I'm still trying to figure out the lethal radius to make sure Leo's gravity manipulation will let her skate away fast enough to survive activating it, but it seems promising.
He was told that food and water wouldn't be an issue, nor medicine, so I don't think he'd being it just for that. A modest amount of common useful metals seem plausible, so cast iron is a yes.

The Distributor Caps are really intended for liquids and gels, not for disintegrating random objects. I suppose it could stretch to molten metal, but not a brick.

I wonder how many people of this quest has gotten on some watch lists. (Jokes)

Hello, FBI this is just completely normal sv questers.
This is a thing I worry about, actually. Various things I've written have had me researching "where to buy heroin in Boston", "how to make explosives", and "how to destroy the American power grid". I'd be shocked if I've never gotten at least a quick review.
 
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He was told that food and water wouldn't be an issue, nor medicine, so I don't think he'd being it just for that. A modest amount of common useful metals seem plausible, so cast iron is a yes.

The Distributor Caps are really intended for liquids and gels, not due disintegrating random objects. I suppose it could stretch to molten metal, but not a brick.


This is a thing I worry about, actually. Various things I've written have had me researching "where to buy heroin in Boston", "how to make explosives", and "how to destroy the American power grid". I'd be shocked if I've never gotten at least a quick review.
The no solids rule pretty much killed my plans for now. I'll think about potential workarounds tomorrow.
 
Speaking of chemical mixtures, the reason I included powdered aluminum with my list of additions to the standard reagent list is that, mixed with swimming pool chlorinator which we have in 5 gallon drums, it makes the best low explosive that I have ever tried myself. It's better than gun powder and almost as good as picric acid.
 
KMn04 makes some okay low explosives. I don't remember trying it with aluminum but it might be better than some of the mixtures I did try. I tried a several because we had a well when I was a kid and KMn04 was one of the ingredients used by the water softening equipment. As I remember, it was used to remove excess iron which we had a problem with. In any case, I knew where to get it in large amounts. Mixed with powdered sugar it makes a lackluster explosive except that its slowish burn rate makes it good for wicks. I didn't actually make wicks much since I strongly favor electrical ignition. Prepackaged model rocket igniters were my standard go to. I was, in fact, trying to make my own rocket fuel but, sometimes when you try to make a rocket, you get a bomb.
 
From Wikipedia:
"Potassium permanganate is sometimes included in survival kits: as a hypergolic fire starter (when mixed with glycerol antifreeze from a car radiator;[23][24][25] as a water sterilizer; and for creating distress signals on snow.

As matter of fact, I once made a purple snowman using KMn04. It wasn't planned that way. What happened was that I grabbed an old jug to poor water on parts of the snowman to make it freeze together stronger. It turns out that the jug had been used to mix KMn04 for the water softening equipment and there was a trace left in the jug. When I saw what happened , I decided I might as well turn the whole thing purple. It doesn't take much at all to turn large amounts of snow purple.
 
KMn04 makes some okay low explosives. I don't remember trying it with aluminum but it might be better than some of the mixtures I did try. I tried a several because we had a well when I was a kid and KMn04 was one of the ingredients used by the water softening equipment. As I remember, it was used to remove excess iron which we had a problem with. In any case, I knew where to get it in large amounts. Mixed with powdered sugar it makes a lackluster explosive except that its slowish burn rate makes it good for wicks. I didn't actually make wicks much since I strongly favor electrical ignition. Prepackaged model rocket igniters were my standard go to. I was, in fact, trying to make my own rocket fuel but, sometimes when you try to make a rocket, you get a bomb.
The reason I wanted it was this quote from the Wikipedia article on nano-thermite:

"Of the listed compositions, that with potassium permanganate has the highest pressurization rate.[6]"
 
Adhoc vote count started by eaglejarl on Sep 13, 2022 at 8:48 AM, finished with 39 posts and 14 votes.

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  • Scout the area for somewhere we can turn into a good kill zone.
  • Lure as many Vespa as possible, detonate, and get the fuck out of dodge.
    • Moose-towed Calliope is a great lure.
    • Acetic acid and isobutanol attracts wasps, as well as mundane stuff like sugar water. Talk it up, get the AI on board.
  • Keep the bare minimum to survive the first few minutes of floor 3 but use everything else.
Do we have any particular plans for the get out of dodge part? And using Moose and Leo as bait is likely to get both of them killed. The wasps are faster than us and will presumably be coming from all directions.
 
Do we have any particular plans for the get out of dodge part? And using Moose and Leo as bait is likely to get both of them killed. The wasps are faster than us and will presumably be coming from all directions.
The wasps are faster than a human but not faster than Moose with Calliope skitching on him.
 
Do we have any particular plans for the get out of dodge part?
Not really, no - maybe we can get a Valkyrie to maintain a pathway to the exit but I'm a little dubious. If this winds up being nonviable then so be it, but I trust the characters to figure things out and that EJ will want to write a big explosion.
And using Moose and Leo as bait is likely to get both of them killed. The wasps are faster than us and will presumably be coming from all directions.
I'm personally less sure about this - for one, if we lure them onto prepared ground then we can set up impediments to their movement and for another, we don't know if the wasps are faster than Moose dragging effectively-frictionless Calliope.

The point of trying to bottleneck them is that they're primarily coming from one direction - one we control because we lured them there, that way.

Maybe this works, maybe it doesn't, but it's enough of a plan IMO. I could flesh it out some but I feel like that's getting into fine-grain detail stuff that we can just delegate to the characters. @eaglejarl, thoughts?
 
Not really, no - maybe we can get a Valkyrie to maintain a pathway to the exit but I'm a little dubious. If this winds up being nonviable then so be it, but I trust the characters to figure things out and that EJ will want to write a big explosion.

I'm personally less sure about this - for one, if we lure them onto prepared ground then we can set up impediments to their movement and for another, we don't know if the wasps are faster than Moose dragging effectively-frictionless Calliope.

The point of trying to bottleneck them is that they're primarily coming from one direction - one we control because we lured them there, that way.

Maybe this works, maybe it doesn't, but it's enough of a plan IMO. I could flesh it out some but I feel like that's getting into fine-grain detail stuff that we can just delegate to the characters. @eaglejarl, thoughts?
Given that we now know Moose can it run them I'm less worried about it.
 
Since we're using all of our explosive supplies up, I wanted to come up with a dungeon renewable source of fire power. I don't know exactly what the products of burning cooking oil are, but assuming all the hydrocarbons get converted into co2 and h2o it would take roughly 10 kg of oil to react with the oxygen in a 6m sphere.

We just need to order it from the bopca, heat it up to it's smoke point and slap a distributor cap on it. I'm not sure how the explosion size would compare to what we have now, but it might be worth adding it to the setup.
 
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