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[Dragonball Z] Saiyan Birds and Bees

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I feel like hilarity is going to follow when 18 comes around and Gohan interacts with her...

Also, hate to be Goku if/when Gohan has her first period, because there's a LOT of pent-up anger and abandonment issues in that cute little frame...
 
Hoo boy the year with Goku in the Room of Spirit and Time is gonna be awkward.
 
AndrewJTalon said:
Or she'll achieve Super Saiyan even more easily with how frustrating Goku can be...
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...I just thought of something... if male Saiyans turn into monkeys under a full moon... Then maybe female Saiyans turn into something... Worse?
 
DragoLord19D said:
...I just thought of something... if male Saiyans turn into monkeys under a full moon... Then maybe female Saiyans turn into something... Worse?
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Only on rare occasions where timing is reaaaallly bad, when they turn into PMSing giant monkeys.
 
Requiem_Jeer said:
I maintain my disappointment that you didn't try to fit in some off-the-wall saiyan biology. If you keep it pretty tame, you can do some fun things.

One of the more notable examples I've seen is that Saiyan digestive systems are incredibly vulnerable to poisons due to hyperactive absorption of nutrients. This means that it takes less booze to make them drunk then a similar human, because it pretty much all hits the bloodstream at once. It's still hard as balls to get them killed with poison, but you can impede them easier. This actually has some basis in canon, given how drunk Gohan got from that fruit in the first dead zone movie.

That said, this is still hilarious. Goku is a pretty terrible father... but that's mostly because being a good father and husband wasn't top of his priority list. When he actually makes an effort, there's no real indication that he's not adequate at minimum. He just thinks keeping the world safe and getting stronger is a bit more pressing then his family. And that decision was vindicated as the series went on. Even when he actually tried to pass the torch it blew up in his face. Literally.
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Working on it. One step at a time.
 
AndrewJTalon said:
"Saiyan bitches grow hot as suns, Namekian," Vegeta sneered. "Not that you could appreciate that, without a dick-"
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I just remembered that Vegeta was a little kid when the planet Vegeta and his father Vegeta were destroyed.


He's probably bullshiting about this.
 
On the "saiyan biology" subject, I've been wondering if that's what the whole deal behind Goku hating grapes in DBZA is. Especially now that he's sweating purple.

I read that "poisons are super-effective" fic too, but I also saw something in a fic where ...I think it was after Gohan's school instituted some sort of rule against brought-from-home lunches, he got weak and almost anemic, until Vegeta came along when he was only barely managing to maintain consciousness and fed him something humans only technically consider edible, but that tasted wonderful to him. Turned out that there was some nutrients that Goku, Gohan and Goten weren't getting enough of from normal human food, so they ate shittons to compensate for the trace amounts, while Vegeta, having been actually trained to live on alien planets (and not losing that knowledge due to severe head trauma), knew that there would likely be nutrients missing and had done a proper survey. Saiyans were big eaters in general, but Goku's family really went above and beyond what we saw from other Saiyans and demi-Saiyans in canon, if I recall correctly. Of course, that could just be a consequence of how the shows were focused.
 
Mithril-blade said:
We see how Vegeta eats in the tournament. It is not any less hard core then Goku's family.
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Okay, I stand corrected.

...How the hell do their bodies metabolise all that, anyway? And what happens if they need to conserve food for awhile, wouldn't that mean they'd starve real damn quick? Did we see Saiyans on Vegeta (the planet) eating that insanely, or is it because Earth food is lacking, somehow? If it's lacking, is it lacking simply in quantity of nutrients, so their body needs so much (so a planet Vegeta dumpling would be 10x an Earth one), or do they only need some of the stuff from the food, and the rest is discarded as unusable (so a Vegeta dumpling is not necessarily packed with more nutrients, it's just that a lot of the ones in an Earth one are useless to a Saiyan)? How much time do they spend on the loo, or do their bodies metabolise that much more of the food (can't be the case if their bodies discard the bulk of it, in fact they'd be shitting out almost all the mass they ate)? Does a fullblood Saiyan have it worse than a half- or quarter-breed in regards to Earth food?
 
RecklessPrudenc said:
Okay, I stand corrected.

...How the hell do their bodies metabolise all that, anyway? And what happens if they need to conserve food for awhile, wouldn't that mean they'd starve real damn quick? Did we see Saiyans on Vegeta (the planet) eating that insanely, or is it because Earth food is lacking, somehow? If it's lacking, is it lacking simply in quantity of nutrients, so their body needs so much (so a planet Vegeta dumpling would be 10x an Earth one), or do they only need some of the stuff from the food, and the rest is discarded as unusable (so a Vegeta dumpling is not necessarily packed with more nutrients, it's just that a lot of the ones in an Earth one are useless to a Saiyan)? How much time do they spend on the loo, or do their bodies metabolise that much more of the food (can't be the case if their bodies discard the bulk of it, in fact they'd be shitting out almost all the mass they ate)? Does a fullblood Saiyan have it worse than a half- or quarter-breed in regards to Earth food?
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Maybe their metabolism adapts?
I mean a human's metabolism increases if one drinks lots of water and decreases if you dont eat for 12 hours. so maybe their metabolism increases while they eat?
 
Darchiasq said:
Most of the time the 'big eater' trope gets laughed off in anime, but if you need an explanation I was always fond of saying they broke down the matter and made it pure energy. Hard to justify though, you won't find any logic down that path.
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I don't usually need a justification, pretty good with perception filters most of the time. It's just that when I start thinking about stuff like this... sometimes it's difficult to stop.
Sebazu said:
Maybe their metabolism adapts?
I mean a human's metabolism increases if one drinks lots of water and decreases if you dont eat for 12 hours. so maybe their metabolism increases while they eat?
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Heh, I know people who would kill for that.
 
On another note, am I completely off-base in thinking that Goku has an UNLIMITED POWAH! mechanic right there, and he never uses it? That's if my decade+ old memories of watching the dub are right. I could be imagining things.

Okay, so when Goku learned the Kaioken, King Kai warned him not to go above a certain level, or it would damage his body, right? When he did go over, in the fight with Vegeta, it hurt him physically, and he had to really strain to keep going. I can't remember if using it against Freeza hurt him or not, but I think King Kai contacted him during the fight to warn him again. So far, so normal - "secret dangerous technique that powers me up but can kill me" is a known quantity. But he's a Saiyan. With reliable healing (Ohai there Sensu beans! Ohai Dende!), he could use Kaioken, hurt himself, get healed, and go again. Be a whole lot simpler than trying to live as a Super Saiyan for a year, or whatever. While any Saiyan with reliable healing can use the "infinite energy" hax, Goku has a more reliable source of both careful self-damage and healing than the average Saiyan, for whom Vegeta's "almost kill me" and a healing tank is the best they've got.

If Goku did this, he wouldn't need to spend years away training. Do this once a month or so, go away every so often to get used to his growing power/learn the odd new technique, and he could stay with his family and be a proper dad to Gohan, let alone choosing to stay dead for seven years! Even if it had a cap, or diminishing returns, he could have been ready for Cell and then some in a year while training for the Androids. If he taught the Kaioken to Gohan (I can understand not teaching it to Vegeta), there could be two star-killing warriors ready to defend Earth, easily - and while power isn't everything in DBZ fighting, it sure damn helps!

Any concerns about maybe hurting himself permanently? He has Bulma and freakin' Kami ready and willing to observe and advise him on that. Not that Goku has ever really worried about things like that, when there's a threat that needs neutralising.

I realise this would break the series into little tiny pieces, but from an in-universe perspective of ever-escalating threats... wouldn't you at least consider it, if you were Goku?
 
king of hybrids said:
oddly enough you could say parenting is the one front where vegeta has either maintained parity or exceeded goku at; since (mass murdering-jerk tendencies aside) he was there for trunks and bra a heck of a lot more than goku was there for gohan and goten
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Perhaps it was just one more competition to Vegeta.

"HA! Foolish Kakarrot! I am the superior PARENT to you!"
 
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