Devourer of Worlds - A Lavos Spawn Quest | (Chrono Trigger x RWBY Crossover) (AU Elements)

Between better tech and aura they can hand wave it. Especially since those are mechashift heels, and clearly oversized enough that the internal position of the foot likely doesn't match the surface shape.

Assuming those are boots. Dishwasher1910 has a thing for cybernetics.
 
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That said the dishwasher1910 stuff is indeed beautiful.

It's really beautiful, dishwasher1910 makes really good fan arts, in fact I remember he made one of the RWBY team grimm version and wow, it left me speechless.

There's also a bit of an odds thing going on. There are a lot more fans than there are creators and there's an even larger disparity between the number of official works and fan works you can find. It's almost inevitable that some of them will be better than the originals, especially when they don't need to be consistently better.

you're right about that
 
A Hero's work... I don't believe that's correct.

I shake my head, slowly. Lucca tuts at me, but she is smiling.

"Not so grand. Simply... she needed aid which I could give. And all things deserve happiness."

Robo, that is basically the textbook definition of a Hero…
A machine that shattered the chains of its programming
*wiggles hand*
not quite? Robo was programmed to study humans.
You can't study them if their dead. He simply devalued the importance of listening to Mother, or internally defined her as a different individual.

'Burn the bridge home', a Megaman Fanfic, does a good job at looking into Robot Sapiences
You possess the necessary control to learn to spells, as Janus did.
Extraneous 'To'
We did win our first round in a landslide, after all."
Isn't the saying 'by a landslide'?
Facing the force of her sister, Weiss could merely nod.
This feels like it's incomplete, to me…
Something I've been wondering for a while, which is what other people's take on the nature of the dreamstone (what the Masamune is made from) considering it was around before Lavos made planet fall (it was passed down to the chiefs of Ayla's tribe after all). @x50413 would I need to write an omake to ask about the dreamstone?
With how the time gates opened before Lavos's arrival, it makes sense that it absorbed some of Lavos's ability, enabling it to direct the part to the appropriate points in time.
We already know it was full of energy when it arrived - the healing water stops being Available (in-story, it stops working) after Lavos arrives.
Said water was the reason the village didn't need healer!
Only now do you understand. Each spell is... diffuse. No, each spell is legion. A collection of countless others, refracted in on themselves a hundred or thousandfold.

let loose a massive wall of fire. For a moment, there was a flickering, an odd sensation that Ruby couldn't place, and then Cinder twisted to intercept the bolt of lightning
When did lightning get launched?
Their magic is, in a certain light, simply a learned Semblance.
On the other hand, one could say its short for 'a Semblance of Magic'
You have satisfied a Curiosity.
Through persistent investigation and exposure to ancient knowledge, Curiosity: Soul Magic has become a new trait.
Scion of Ciel -
You carry with you the knowledge of the ancient world. You understand the fundamental nature of Soul Magic better than any living individual, and are capable of both teaching its function to mortals and improving upon the ancient techniques, and actions related to the souls of mortals will be more effective. More than that, you have come to understand that you are connected to the world of mortals, even if only by a few links. The strength of such bonds will be far greater for this understanding. [Aura or soul-based actions will be more effective. Bonds with mortals are more potent, for better or worse.]

This echoes across the flow of time. . .
Did we ever get an explanation for why it echoed across time?

There were four of you, you said?"

"Yeah. Ruby, Weiss, Yang, and I
This should be 'and me' - as in, "the teacher taught [the others and] me" - rule of thumb is to use whichever you would use with just a singular individual.
Ruby and Weiss. Yang and I. We... treated each other like sisters.
again, 'and me' - "the others were on a team with me"
I have done much in the pursuit of knowledge. I have built wonders that have been misused, and I have allowed terrible things to come to pass."
For a moment, I thought this was set after being sent through time.

can you just imagine the headache Masa & Mune experienced as they had thier history altered? Before the party interfered, I don't think it was stabbed into the Mammon Machine?
The greater power transfer would explain why/how the Masamune II exists.
She'd lost in somewhere in between. I need it. I think it's the piece I've been missing."
I think this should be 'it'
Blake Belladonna
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Can we get updated versions, or at least what we would search for?

The Sword of Destruction and the Winter Maiden for Atlas
I know it's already an AU, but that's different from having the Staff of Creation, which in canon was what let Atlaa float
And I understand what happened to Obsidian and I
"What happened to me" -
We?"

"Obsidian and I.
me
Perhaps, if we had the time to build shelter?
Well… depending on how canon you consider the additions the DS remake has"s…
rocketing towards Yang's own face like a bullet
Extraneous word
hooking her fingers around the edge and lifting herself to her feet
But she already got to her feet?
She rolled, spinning to her feet a moment later and watching Blake and Pyrrha trading blows
(Above referencing this)
The sheath-blade that swept through the smokescreen and sliced across her jaw, therefore, was a small surprise.
Move to the beginning? This sounds awkwardly phrased
Specifically, the extremely-important pendant of the Guardian line that had been passed down for as long as anyone could remember
Isn't this 'Guardia'?
That would be so pedestrian...so of course she is.
Another pedestrian use? SUBTITLES!
just, you know, like this but without the actual signs

But between Blake and I
And me, based on the sentence it would be part of.
A more focused examination of a Maiden would be necessary to learn more
Atlas has the Winter Maiden… would she agree?
I have never wanted to punch someone in the face more than I do now.
There are two people who I'd say are as INTENTIONALLY TOXIC to their children (which is why someone like Gabriel Agreste (miraculous Ladybug) or Shadow Weaver (She-ra) isn't quite at this level, if just barely) - Ragyo & Gendo Ikari.
After all, the second is the reason the 'Gendou Ikari Lifetime Achievement Award for Parenting'
That is an interesting evolutionary trait.
Reminds me of the Fishmen from One Piece.
nothing concrete, just a generalized bad feeling
Interesting note - a gut feeling is your brain taking a snapshot of everything and comparing it to all your past experiences for something similar.
His good eye was open, and staring at her. His chest rose and fell, slowly. So slowly. "Adam...?"
The question I have is how he got transported across the distance.

Also, this may or may not ever come up in-story, but I've taken to calling those Grimm 'Asterion' (plural Asteria) after the legendary Minotaur of Crete, in keeping with the mythological naming scheme of RWBY
Maybe a canon omake, with an 'after action report' and/or briefing others on the new type of Grimm encountered?
That's not quite true. It's also the place closest to Obsidian's body – the place that has been closest to Obsidian's body for millions of years. For millions of years, Obsidian's power has saturated every inch of this place

Now, in the future after things have settled a bit, the crater (or whatever is left behind, no spoilers) might be magically significant, yeah.

Maybe someday Ruby will come back and forge a great wonder here!
I wonder if we could visit that location while in the past, before returning.
They're all unique opportunities. The Dream of RWBY-P is something unique and unprecedented, and the opportunity to give them a physical token is not something likely to come up often

Without you to bridge the gap between us
It sounds like Obsidian bridged the gap between the voices?
Perhaps it was a trick of the light, but she thought she saw a light shimmering up at her from below.

and there, just at the base of her feet, he could see a sphere of cold light shining through
I wonder what that light was?
You are the Ataxia. You wait as your other delicately pieces together another puzzle. Slowly, perfectly, the Clockwork's infinite hands finalize the design of the creature before you. Its multitude of lenses examine and catalog every attribute and function.

Finally, its work complete, it withdraws. It observes. And your turn comes.

You reach out with your uncountable tendrils. You dive into this new thing. You seek out the places where it is weak, the places where it has grown flawed in its distance from its creator, and you rend it asunder. Your mouths consume its pieces, your eyes observe its motions in death.
An interesting note - the way the two are described acting sounds like the story Qrow told about the Brother Gods…
Entropy, you argue, is a part of reality that cannot be removed
Reminds me of the series 'Young Wizardry'
For the first time, the tendrils of the Ataxia and the Clockwork's hands begin to work in tandem.
Like the brother gods creating people.
'Destruction through creation' as a mirror to the Grimm
Neopolitan and Roman Torchwick are currently deployed here, in search of the Spring Maiden.
While thier enemies also Do Things, it's also true of our Allied Units (to make a comparison to Fire Emblem) are able to take actions.
Maybe we could get a peek at what they've been up to?
if anything I'd say Foreigner would be most apt for Obsidian, followed by the Caster Class if they were to abide by the constraints of the World/Planet, ala Crimson Moon, to form a vessel
You're forgetting the rarest one - Unclassed.
Alternatively, Obsidian would be a Moon Cancer (the explanation would be because the amount of Data needed to simulate her would be too large for the Moon Cell)
I'd explain it further, but if I'm entirely honest, the exact mechanics of it make my head hurt
To quote Ashes of the past - "if you don't have a headache, you don't understand Time Travel"!
 
To quote Ashes of the past - "if you don't have a headache, you don't understand Time Travel"!
YOU WHO HAVE GATHERED THE SEVEN DRAGONBALLS —

Oh. You're just quoting me to make a point. I was so confused, because I didn't remember ever touching this thread.

In any case, yes, I'll agree: if you don't have a headache, you haven't sufficiently grasped time travel, yet. That's, like, step five on the "I now understand time travel" punch card: "Acquire migraine."
 
@V01DRei
When someone answers with "Him and I" or "Him and me" to a question both are grammatically correct as they imply more but leave it out. "Him and I [are the answer]" and "[The answer is] him and me" with what is in the [brackets] being implied.
 
I'm away from my computer so I can't go through all the individual edit suggestions, but here's some answers:

*wiggles hand*
not quite? Robo was programmed to study humans.
You can't study them if their dead. He simply devalued the importance of listening to Mother, or internally defined her as a different individual.

Yes. He creatively interpreted his programming in order to subvert the intention behind it, something that would not have been possible without true sapience.

Thus the phrasing.

When did lightning get launched?

That's the flickering. There was some time fuckery going on there as the proto-Gate kept churning away, leading to some hiccups in the timeline.

It was very close to being a Time Crash kind of scenario, but it stabilized and settled before it could get that bad.

But she already got to her feet?

See:

Yang pounced forward, landing on all fours in front of Pyrrha and hooking one fist upwards. The shield, naturally, moved to parry.

She jumped forward Ayla-style on all fours, then pulled herself upright using the shield as leverage.

Isn't this 'Guardia'?

*waggling hand*

It's "the line of Guardia" which could be said either way. In this case Marle is using it descriptively rather than as a proper noun, thus "Guardian."
 
Yes. He creatively interpreted his programming in order to subvert the intention behind it, something that would not have been possible without true sapience.

Thus the phrasing.
Actually, he didn't really subvert the intention behind it (because he was made by Mother BEFORE she went crazy)
Also: you can learn about someone/something without attributing value/worth to them.
In other words, he was doing exactly what he was designed to do.

(I may not be phrasing things the best way)
The real choice comes when there are conflicting programs/directives. A method a good AI will use to counter act Issamov'a Three Laws - they were a thought experiment, not ever intended as a solution. spent the REST of the book pointing out all the issues with them.
 
To be fair to Ozpin, if killing Salem actually works and saves millions of future lives, I can absolutely see how he would consider that worth it. Unfortunately for him, there's absolutely no way he actually succeeds and doesn't inadvertently cause Salem to go full Grimm or something equivalent.
Not to mention, breaking the timeline might just be one off the few things that could permanently kill him, which he may want at this point.
 
Now I am concerned that Ozpin may decide to pursue suicidal ideas, Ozpin I offer you this self-help book (on the cover of the book it says "Why causing time paradoxes is a bad idea to attempt suicide") I think you will find it interesting.

By the way, if we fail to parley with Ozpin how bad do you think the beating he's going to give us is going to be, because if I'm honest if the dialogue fails this situation either ends with our mortals biting dust or the official introduction of Shroud and Veil as characters (Because it's almost obvious that sword is like Masa and Mune, I will be very disappointed if in the end it's not the same as those two).
 
A bit off topic, but Chrono Trigger the Musical has reached the Lavos final battle songs:







Last Battle itself hasn't been released yet as of this post, but it should be within the next few weeks, if not days.
 
You know, I don't know why, but those two videos reminded me of this.



Am I the only one who feels like crying when the second half of the music comes on?

And listening again to this beauty made me think that if ever in this quest we see Obsidian fighting with his ultimate power (imagine against the voice of grimm or something like that) this would play in the background.
 


And the final battle with Lavos has arrived!

It's interesting to note that in the musical, Lavos is outright pissed.
It sees what to it are essentially a bunch of cows fighting for their lives after developing for 65 million years, and in a way it is right.

Think about it. It's the reason humanity even exists in the chrono trigger universe. Without it, the reptites would have killed them in the prehistoric era. So in a way, they are its cattle.

They used its magic, they developed a culture and civilisation because of it, hell their own survival was paramount to it crashing at the right time.

And then, after 65 MILION YEARS, which is, mind you, a very long time for what is essentially a cattle farmer, it emerges to complete its life cycle, when a bunch of cows come and reach its core, its TRUE form.

I mean think about it. Imagine you're a farmer. You have your farm, your cattle herd, life is good. Then, one day, a group of cows just start going ballistic, breaking all your equipment, trying to kill you and just generally making a mess of things.

First you try to calm them down, and see what's up. Maybe they got sick? But no, they're fine. They just want to kill you.
Well then, maybe If you get on the tractor and make a bunch of noise they'll get scared and back off, I mean you're already behind schedule because these cows were to go to the local slaughterhouse and you don't have much time.

Then they break your tractor, and trash your house. Somehow.

At this point, you, the farmer, are very pissed off. How dare a bunch of cows just completely wreck everything you've built! That house was built by your grandpa and it's a pile of rubble! That's it, you say, I'm taking the shotgun and fixing this mess myself, mano a mano, no fancy tools or anything.

These fucking cows have been too much of a pain in the ass. They've ruined your equipment, your tractor, your HOUSE. Fuck the slaughterhouse. You're killing them yourself.

And then they murder you.

The farmer is Lavos by the way.
 
Obsidian: This is why you get your hooks in them early.

Lavos: ... Huh. Why didn't I think of that?

Obsidian: Because it requires actual planning.

Lavos: ... Respect your elders brat.

Obsidian: I'm disowning you, you are no longer one of 'my' elders.

Lavos: Big talk for someone in laser range.
 
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Obsidian: This is why you get your hooks in them early.

Lavos: ... Huh. Why didn't I think of that?

Obsidian: Because it requires actual planning.

Lavos: ... Respect your elders brat.

Obsidian: I'm disowning you, you are no longer one of 'my' elders.

Lavos: Big talk for someone in laser range.

Because of this now I can't stop imagining Lavos as a father fed up with life and obsidian as the troubled teenager, why that mental image is so cute? I don't even know.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Lavos core is a fusion of all the species that he "harvested" right? in that case the Obsidean core would look like a human with many animal parts or a human with animal parts and grimm right?

I literally found the video that perfectly describes the quality of canon's writing vs. the quality of this quest.



what a pity that there is not one like this but of this specific quest.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Lavos core is a fusion of all the species that he "harvested" right? in that case the Obsidean core would look like a human with many animal parts or a human with animal parts and grimm right?

Yes and no. The Core is "designed" based on what the specific entity in question considers best. The exact criteria of "best" as well as the options involved depend greatly on the particular entity.

Obsidian and Lavos have somewhat different palettes to paint their Cores from.

I literally found the video that perfectly describes the quality of canon's writing vs. the quality of this quest.

You know, it's funny.

I just recently added the main song (Megalith / Agnus Dei) to the playlist for this Quest, to potentially be used somewhere down the line. And as soon as I expanded the video, I knew what meme the video was going to be.

It's very flattering, actually, so thank you. For the laugh as well.

Anyway, quick update: Work on the next chapter continues to progress. Unfortunately, my fiancee had a near-miss in her car that led to some spinal issues; getting that sorted out took up most of my writing time for the last few weeks. She's better now, fortunately, and all is well, but it was a noteworthy setback.
 
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Lavos reminds me of the Entities from Worm. Say, How would you do a fic with some character from worm getting obsidian?
 
@x50413, would you be willing to share your playlist for the quest? I do a lot of my own writing with my own playlist, and I'd enjoy listening to what you've found works for you.
 
Lavos reminds me of the Entities from Worm. Say, How would you do a fic with some character from worm getting obsidian?

There is actually a snip of this nature here, although it's incredibly dated (my god, this is from three years ago?? what) so I'd probably do some things differently today.

If I were going to redo it, besides doing a better job of writing Shardspeak and how they think, I'm no longer sure that Dinah is the correct choice for Arbiter.

Obsidian-in-Worm naturally takes place after the darkest part of Obsidian's own story – that is to say, in the wake of this particular Doomed Timeline where Blake is killed and Obsidian, full of grief and anger, annihilates Remnant. In light of this, I'd almost be tempted to give Glory Girl the slot – she has some of the perfect traits to remind Obsidian of the mortals she once had. Yang's bullheaded stubbornness, Ruby's curiosity, a bit of Weiss' (deserved) arrogance, and a dash of Blake's darkness. There's a lot of potential, there.

But there are other options, as well. Dinah is still a contender, although I think I'd place Obsidian's entry at a different place in the story. Probably during her captivity under Coil – maybe even in the middle of Leviathan's attack on the Bay, I'm not certain. Dinah post-Coil is a very different beast than pre-Coil.

@x50413, would you be willing to share your playlist for the quest? I do a lot of my own writing with my own playlist, and I'd enjoy listening to what you've found works for you.

Sure. Of course, this may potentially spoil future chapter music, so listen at your own risk, I suppose. Some of this is actual might-be-used music, and some of it is just there to help me get in a specific mood for certain chapters.
 
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