- Location
- Somewhere, probably Earth
It's a Bodhivista, very attuned to the ways of the Universe. Unless we can figure out what, exactly, is keeping it tied to the world enough to keep from enlightenment, we probably won't be able to distract it.
Covered In Blood And Surrounded By Spirits (Hellsing CK2 Organization Quest)
- Thread starter The LD Creature
- Start date
- Location
- USA
[X] Yanagawa
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
I don't think illusions are particularily useful against a creature whose chief superpower is called "Enlightenment".
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- She/Her
You can try it. It might work.
Night_stalker
Slava Ukraini!
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] Yanagawa
Walter's probably going to betray us at some point so it might not be a good idea to spread ourselves too much or take our eyes off him since normal old Walter is significantly more manageable than building carving vampire Walter. Alternatively the Bodhisattva isn't actually aligned with Millennium and Denbe is just doing his own thing separate from Millennium.
There is also the possibility Walter won't betray us as IRC his canon reason for the betrayal seemed to be wanting to fight Alucard at his peak through Millennium making him a vampire so he can fight at full strength rather than because of having anything against us or Integra. Since Millennium has apparently kept him in the dark about the revised plan he might change his mind about trusting literal Nazi vampires. Wouldn't get my hopes up about that but that is a possibility.
[X]Yanagawa
I'm not really good with write-ins so I'll go with just having Yanagawa occupy it for now.
- Location
- madison
If its helping millennium I'm not so sure about that. You know how if an angel turns against god it stops being an angel? If a bodhivista stops being compassionate it stops being a Bodhisattva. Given how this thing visibly looks like its been corrupted or defiled its probably not really a Bodhisattva anymore. It might have lost access to its more mystical or knowledge focused powers.
ArchAIngel
Sorcerer Supreme.
- Location
- Right behind you.
"I care about you, so I will kill you to save you from corruption/evil/nebulous thingy"
- Location
- madison
eh, doesn't really doesn't fit buddhism. There is not any real direct tie between purity and goodness, also a central tenet is if you die without achieving enlightenment you just reincarnate and gon to live your next life, so killing people would be immensely pointless under even the most deranged interpretation of saving someone.
also its face is a giant gaping wound, I think we can take that as a hint beyond merely its behavior that there is something fundamentally wrong with it.
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- Location
- Pittsburgh, PA
Oh sweet fucking Christ, we're going with that idiotic Shyamalanian swerve? I always thought that was the stupidest goddamn thing...
Seriously, even assuming that Walter is willing to sell out Hellsing for immortality (which is a hell of a leap for me, considering he even had that neat little conversation with Alucard about his belief in duty)... why the hell would he then decide to pick a fight with Alucard, somebody who he knows for a fact is orders of magnitude beyond him and who he has personally seen turn beings far stronger and more skilled than he into screaming blood mist? Fuck, why would he even trust Millennium, a pack of certifiably insane Nazis who he has attacked in the past, to keep up their end of any bargain he made with them?
In order for that plot twist to happen, Walter has to be both a cowardly traitor of Starscream proportions, and far too stupid and arrogant for Alucard to not have pegged him as such and informed Integra years ago. Worse, it doesn't actually provide any meaningful contribution to the story - and while this is just my personal opinion, having Vampire Walter be a mind-controlled mockery of his younger self sent against Alucard by Millennium as a way to fuck with him would have more narrative potential. You could actually have Alucard show an emotion other "smug" or "murderface".
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- She/Her
I was actually under the impression that Walter became immortal in order to fight and kill Alucard. Even if it was pointless. Even if the possibility of it happening was an incredibly small decimal point. He had to be the one to kill Alucard. That's actually an overall theme in Hellsing that you can see fairly often. Everyone involved in the supernatural is fucking crazy. Integra is totally fine walking towards the Major even as he's shooting at her point blank and barely cares when she gets shot in the eye. Alucard obtained immortality and desperately wants to be killed. Seras is an absolute berserker when she really gets into it. Anderson doesn't even view himself as an actual person and Maxwell is an egomaniacal shithead. And Millennium speaks for itself.
But the creme of the crop has to be Walter. Poor, fanatical, bug-fuck nuts Walter. He serves the Hellsing family for over half a century, murdering motherfuckers absolutely wantonly with no care or regard for his own limitations as a human. But there will always be that divide. That point where he can murder just about any opponent, but Alucard, fuck-mothering Alucard, remains aloof and impossible to defeat. He gets locked away for decades, and Walter tries to forget. He can take care of the family and rest comfortably at the top of his fame and accomplishments. But then it starts to nag at him, the reminder of the monster he could never beat, even as he drifts into retirement. And conquered by his insatiable need to win, to be better than Alucard, he stays the course and plots with Millennium to awakent he vampire. Because Alucard's existence, even when under lock and key, hounds Walter like a personal failure. Alucard can go out and slaughter vampires, but not Walter. Alucard can take a bullet to the face like it was a gnat and not break stride. Alucard, Alucard, Alucard.
Alucard makes Walter feel, for all the blood he shed and titles he earned, like a human. And for someone who calls himself the Angel of Death, being sidelined is unacceptable. That's why I think Walter isn't stupid, or arrogant, or cowardly. He's just absolutely, completely, off his rocker, three cups short of a full set, insane. And he can't possibly let himself end without a fight. And he sees that in Millennium. He knows that they don't fight based on race, or fascism, but because they love to kill and destroy. And even if he's on the side of the good guys, Walter believes in that. Walter lives by that. you can see it in the way he comes alive whenever he fights. Fighting makes Walter feel alive, and more notably, important. And no fight is bigger, and no prize is bigger, than Alucard.
"We are the evening's entertainment. And I... just wanted to do something with my time on the stage worthy of applause."
-Walter C. Dornez
And that's why I think Walter's betrayal is perfectly in-character.
It's not that Alucard is the one he never beat, he came close in his youth and that was fine, there's always someone better. It's that he can't do it anymore.
Why should he have to grow old when others do not?
Why should he become weak when everyone else remains strong?
Why should he fade away when some remain forever?
Why should he be irrelevant when he wants so much more?
It's not madness or battle lust that drives Walter. It's envy.
Why should he have to grow old when others do not?
Why should he become weak when everyone else remains strong?
Why should he fade away when some remain forever?
Why should he be irrelevant when he wants so much more?
It's not madness or battle lust that drives Walter. It's envy.
Dream Logic
An offseason swallow
- Location
- In transit
I swear, Hellsing actually invokes lust not for sex but actual battle lust. Te series is just so steeped in it that it rubs off on you.
Course Walter wanted to die fighting Alucard, if he can't be immortal he should die gloriously. always figured the betrayal itself was not personal, just the goal behind it wast
Course Walter wanted to die fighting Alucard, if he can't be immortal he should die gloriously. always figured the betrayal itself was not personal, just the goal behind it wast
[X] Yanagawa
- Location
- madison
man, Alucard is really lucky all these badass psychopaths with huge piles of patience, resources and murder boners for him are to bugfuck crazy to just do the easy thing and drown him. They all seem to be fixated on finding some way to beat him "fairly" rather than just have a plan where step one is dropping him in the ocean and step two is having divers put his corpse in some kind of underwater mulching machine.
I mean with all the bullshit Millennium pulled I refuse to believe they couldn't find some clever way to quickly and unexpectedly flood an area. Hell I would only buy them not being able to make an out and out aquakinetic if water is in universe hard to magically affect or something.
I mean with all the bullshit Millennium pulled I refuse to believe they couldn't find some clever way to quickly and unexpectedly flood an area. Hell I would only buy them not being able to make an out and out aquakinetic if water is in universe hard to magically affect or something.
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Of course they could, they're not interested.
And it's not that they want a fair fight, because they don't. They just want a fight. The Major went into this knowing he was going to lose. Even if he somehow conquered England, France would just nuke him. The whole point of this war is War. Nothing else. Just drowning Alucard with a scuttling charge on the Eagle would be counterproductive.
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Chaosbrain
The End comes beyond Chaos...
- Location
- Between East and West, North and South.
True enough. Remember what he said during his grand WAR speech after going over the types of battles and weapons that excite him so.
"I love it when my forces are ravaged by a Russian armored division. It's so sad to see towns and villages that were supposed to be defended at all costs, being laid to waste, their women and children being raped, and killed. I love to be squashed under the heel of the British and American war machines. The humiliation, as my men crawl around like vermin, ducking the jagdbombers flying overhead."
He cares not for victory, or defeat. Only that there is War, in all of its horror and blood soaked brutality. And besides, where is the joy, or even the point if you always win? The true face of war is found in the defeats as well as the victories.
"I love it when my forces are ravaged by a Russian armored division. It's so sad to see towns and villages that were supposed to be defended at all costs, being laid to waste, their women and children being raped, and killed. I love to be squashed under the heel of the British and American war machines. The humiliation, as my men crawl around like vermin, ducking the jagdbombers flying overhead."
He cares not for victory, or defeat. Only that there is War, in all of its horror and blood soaked brutality. And besides, where is the joy, or even the point if you always win? The true face of war is found in the defeats as well as the victories.
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- Location
- Brazil
Of course this is all assuming Alucard can even be drowed, he may not be able to cross water but when you consider how he hadles all other traditional vampire weaknesses one can't help but fell that the end result would be more in line with himsomehow tuneling his way back.
- Location
- Alice Springs, Australia
that seems likely, the only things that seem to be able to kill Alucard are gods, legendary heroes and one offs
Chaosbrain
The End comes beyond Chaos...
- Location
- Between East and West, North and South.
I could see him turning into a mass of shadows or things that fly and crawl, such that he is able to jump or float to the top of the water where he could escape in that way. In the first case shadow jump onto something sticking out of the water and be fine, while the second turn into so much insects and such that either it sticks out of the water, or floats into a thin curtain on the surface. Then he reforms his body standing on top of it, and from there jumps or does whatever. Maybe he could even pull a Brook from One Piece, and as the water comes run so fast he has no time to sink.
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- Location
- madison
and if he was even a little bit less crazy, or crazy with even a slightly different sense of style he might have considered finding a way to drown alucard as elegant as feeding him his pet quantum catboy. If the plan was to use alucards actual weakness rather than being clever about it probably would not have been something so pedestrian as sinking his ship, knowing the major it would proably have been something like using a nuke to blast out a new inlet under alucards feet or something.