Contractual Villainy
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Honorguard Ra
(Verified Lizard Dude)
Well, this Danny's a write-off. Too busy dicking around on The Rig to look after the only child he had with the woman he supposedly loved. I could've understood him being up to his eyeballs in shit trying to keep the Dockworkers stable...
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Sandy River DL
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Oh no, its worse. Danny never once forgot about Taylor, his entire motivation was ensuring he could provide for her needs and make the city safer for her. The problem lays in that he completely lost sight of actually providing for her. And has utterly failed to realize that. Not even after coming home the day after Christmas to find her gone. And remember, he thinks she left with the food, not ran out.
It won't be for quite a while, but when Tay does find out? Danny's going to wish she actually hurt him.
Taylor, as mentioned earlier in the story, left home at the start of Christmas Break, which was two weeks before she got her vial. Danny, as above, comes home just over a week after she leaves. And, if you look at the dates, Emma did in fact sign up the next day after taking her vial.
As for Amy opening up so easily? She didn't actually do much, beyond giving Taylor just enough information to ensure she'd give the desired way out.
Also, now they have blackmail on her.
That would be so much fun to do, but by the time Taylor would know who Legion is, both Emma and Danny would have bigger issues
Less 'dicking around on the Rig' and more got over focused on being able to provide for Taylor to the complete neglect of actually caring for her. Which is honestly worse.
On a separate note, really should have expected the Danny reveal to overshadow the other stuff.
In light of these answers I'm not honestly sure if I like the Danny reveal as it stands, but then again I'm not sure how much that is altered by my bias toward Danny in other fics.
I think Danny's mindset just doesn't feel comprehensible to me, I guess? Idk. Sorry for the ramblepost.
Like I wish I had the english skills to put across exactly why, in this moment, I just feel so unsatisfied with the reveal and this explanation of Danny's perspective.
I think Danny's mindset just doesn't feel comprehensible to me, I guess? Idk. Sorry for the ramblepost.
Yeah, though it's likely because unless you do something really different with Emma she's kind of just a known factor.
Danny though both triggering and having blinders so powerful he didn't go home for an entire week and thinks that somehow Taylor being gone is not because of him? That's fairly fresh and lets us all rampantly speculate as to when Taylor teleports a volcano on to the Rig.
Danny though both triggering and having blinders so powerful he didn't go home for an entire week and thinks that somehow Taylor being gone is not because of him? That's fairly fresh and lets us all rampantly speculate as to when Taylor teleports a volcano on to the Rig.
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serra2
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Holy shit. Assuming Brockton keeps to the normal schedule for how these breaks work, and Taylor left right at the start, that means she was gone for at minimum a full week before he found out. And she had run out of food a fair bit of time before that. Jesus Christ.
Emma is definitely interesting, finding out she has been saving up to get the vial shows a large amount of long term thinking, her power is fairly decent ( some sort of power aura she can fire out in beams? Like Purity without the sun recharge thing), and her modelling career actually coming up in a useful way during costume discussions. I honestly like her costume.
But yeah, the Danny thing is a bit of a slap in the face.
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Don't be ridiculous. A volcano is a massive geological formation, and teleporting one in any meaningful way (as in; moving it as a volcano, not as a mountain that may be partially molten inside) would likely require ripping it out by the root, all the way down close to or reaching the mantle. Doing so would likely cause issues for the planet the volcano was removed from (ripping a big chunk of the crust out of the planet would do that). Also, it wouldn't fit onto the rig, which is much smaller than a mountain. Plus the issue(s) of where the mass would go; is she dumping it on top of the planet? Is she shoving it into the planet's crust? If so, where does the displaced chunk of crust go?
It would be much simpler and more straightforward to just teleport the rig into the volcano, while being just about as satisfying.
Not as spectacular, sure, but causing a local apocalyptic event not entirely unlike a miniature Kyushu in scale... Seems like a good way to get on peoples' bad side.
Also hard. A volcano is a lotta mass to move.
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MaimakteriAnn
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Well, she's certainly insane as a natural trigger.
Did Legion recognise Taylor when he saw Hausos?
Did Legion recognise Taylor when he saw Hausos?
Like father, like (the canonical version of) daughter, I guess?
There were more than a few sections of the text that implied Amy was basically getting high off Shaper seeing genetic sequences from a different Earth, so probably?
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... That is so fked up, but truth is I never seem that, except for that one fic where Daniel Hebert was Coil.
I really can't wait for this situation blow up.
Well, darn. Danny, friend, I'm a civilian in another universe, and have a burning desire to have a discussion about your outright neglect using my size eleven steel caps up one side and down the other.
The only excuse would be if he was somehow unconscious in a hospital, and our author has already stated this was not the case
The only excuse would be if he was somehow unconscious in a hospital, and our author has already stated this was not the case
MultipleChoice
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I just want to say that if the PHO interlude doesn't contain a reference to cactus juice (it's the quenchiest), I will be very disappointed.
Along these lines, I would half expect comments about a very polite robbery. After all, food and supplies only, no violence in this setting? Unheard of.
I would expect to see the ubiquitous "get a f-ing job" and would be disappointed if someone didn't try to point out homeless and young teen = job prospects nil
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So next thought: when in the time line was this?
Was it prior to her first patrol. Did she knowingly breach ROE and standing?
Does she already have a excess use of force doing on record?
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Sandy River DL
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That section was on the 9th, while the encounter where she blasts Taylor is the next night on the 10th. So Emma's told not to escalate and use minimal force, then promptly ignores it because Taylor got at her.
On a separate note, currently putting together some PHO prompts for if anyone does want to be in the PHO Interlude.
Further more, and somewhat critically, * in front of multiple witnesses*
Ooh, excellent.
Splattered Cloak
Recovering Line Editor
This is an amazing comparison I don't recall ever seeing before. Not quite the same, of course, due to the massive difference in intellect just to start with, but suspiciously similar in the way they present themselves. And I can completely see this settling the tone for the future interactions between the young veteran and the hot-headed newbie.
I could see an insurance company disagreeing with a largely hands-off stance for a survival-oriented peaceful parahuman thief, but the reasoning is perfectly sound.
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A bit of stock shrinkage is a lot less to indemnify than the collateral damage of a cape fight. I dare say the insurance company would happily agree with a measured approach from law enforcement.
I, however, can see an argument for an insurance company accepting said stance, and it's called limit of loss.
See the insurance company would take this situation and break it down into two scenarios.
Scenario one: capes deploy to stop robbery by force. Cape battle ensues, injuring or killing customers and/or staff, damaging or destroying the building, and requiring the write off of large amounts of stock.
Scenario two:
Incident is documented, including with photographically and video graphical evidence. Staff follow their training to document but don't intervene, and a robbery report is raised.
Zero potential liability for injury or death to customers or staff. Zero damage to building, light to moderate stock shrinkage.
Guess which costs more?
and after this rant:
Blasting her after that is only going to help convince people she's right about you Emma.
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♦ Topic: Oddly Polite New Villain
In: Boards ► America ► Brockton Bay
Bagrat (Original Poster) (Veteran Member) (The Guy in the Know)
Posted On Jan 8th 2011:
There's been some rumors floating around for the past couple days about a new villain here in Brockton Bay and I can now confirm them. On Wednesday, Bay Goods was robbed by an unknown cape whose descriptions I've seen matches the cape calling herself Hausos who just raided the local Ace Hardware. Yes, I'm posting this from my phone while on scene.
As the thread title says, it was probably the politest robbery I've been in here, with the cape, pretty sure it's a she, just telling us to go about our business and that she'd really rather not hurt anyone before grabbing a cart and acting like she was just another customer.. Not being an idiot, I went back to my own quest for household repair supplies.
I can confirm that she's a Tinker too, as I came across her collecting power tools at one point. Didn't even get threatened for going near her, which was honestly a little surreal. Nice though.
Hopefully she manages to stay that way and not get sucked into one of the gangs or killed.
♦ Topic: New Ward Zenith
In: Boards ► America ► Brockton Bay
Reave (Original Poster) (Verified PRT Agent)
Posted On Jan 10th 2011:
The PRT ENE would like to announce our latest Wards member, Zenith.
A video of her introduction can be found [here], but for those of you who can't watch it right now, she's a Blaster-Shaker who produces white-gold energy projectiles around herself and generate a bright illuminating field up to a block away. Her costume is a simple blue dress overlaid with golden armor plate on the hands, feet, and torso, with a visored tiara bearing her sundisk logo.
**more here based on any recommendations**
♦ Topic: Empire Activity at 3rd and Bay Road
In: Boards ► America ► Brockton Bay
Brocktonite03 (Original Poster) (Veteran Member)
Posted On Jan 10th 2011:
Rune and Krieg just flew past my window, heading down towards Bay Road. I'm not sure what's going on, but given that Krieg's involved, the Empire thinks it's important and requiring a lighter tough than Hookwolf.
Edit: Make that North Ave, as I'm hearing someone shouting about Nazis and Argentina. Might be a Merchant?
Edit2: Now there's fire and not like somethign out of a Molotov either. Way too bright.
Edit3: THat new Ward's here, I can see that light aura she has coming from North Ave. And it sounds like whoever the Nazis were after is now shouting at her too. Can't make out what;'s being said though, and I sure ain't opening a window to get a better hear.
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♦ Topic: Oddly Polite New Villain
In: Boards ► America ► Brockton Bay
Bagrat (Original Poster) (Veteran Member) (The Guy in the Know)
Posted On Jan 8th 2011:
There's been some rumors floating around for the past couple days about a new villain here in Brockton Bay and I can now confirm them. On Wednesday, Bay Goods was robbed by an unknown cape whose descriptions I've seen matches the cape calling herself Hausos who just raided the local Ace Hardware. Yes, I'm posting this from my phone while on scene.
As the thread title says, it was probably the politest robbery I've been in here, with the cape, pretty sure it's a she, just telling us to go about our business and that she'd really rather not hurt anyone before grabbing a cart and acting like she was just another customer.. Not being an idiot, I went back to my own quest for household repair supplies.
I can confirm that she's a Tinker too, as I came across her collecting power tools at one point. Didn't even get threatened for going near her, which was honestly a little surreal. Nice though.
Hopefully she manages to stay that way and not get sucked into one of the gangs or killed.
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♦ Topic: New Ward Zenith
In: Boards ► America ► Brockton Bay
Reave (Original Poster) (Verified PRT Agent)
Posted On Jan 10th 2011:
The PRT ENE would like to announce our latest Wards member, Zenith.
A video of her introduction can be found [here], but for those of you who can't watch it right now, she's a Blaster-Shaker who produces white-gold energy projectiles around herself and generate a bright illuminating field up to a block away. Her costume is a simple blue dress overlaid with golden armor plate on the hands, feet, and torso, with a visored tiara bearing her sundisk logo.
**more here based on any recommendations**
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♦ Topic: Empire Activity at 3rd and Bay Road
In: Boards ► America ► Brockton Bay
Brocktonite03 (Original Poster) (Veteran Member)
Posted On Jan 10th 2011:
Rune and Krieg just flew past my window, heading down towards Bay Road. I'm not sure what's going on, but given that Krieg's involved, the Empire thinks it's important and requiring a lighter tough than Hookwolf.
Edit: Make that North Ave, as I'm hearing someone shouting about Nazis and Argentina. Might be a Merchant?
Edit2: Now there's fire and not like somethign out of a Molotov either. Way too bright.
Edit3: THat new Ward's here, I can see that light aura she has coming from North Ave. And it sounds like whoever the Nazis were after is now shouting at her too. Can't make out what;'s being said though, and I sure ain't opening a window to get a better hear.
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Of this is going to be fantastic! There are certainly not enough fics where Taylor is a villain and Danny is a Protectorate hero, and to add Emma into the mix... it's going to be a hell of a time.
Emma's plot here is definitely interesting, as was the speedbump of getting less-than-stellar powers. I hope we see more of her interactions with the other Wards.
I also quite like the "homeless anti-PRT capes may be mentally ill" reasoning for the PRT to go easier on them. Strategic reasons aside, it's humanizing for the normally hard-decision crowd. Taylor has an unfortunately deep understanding of being a victim of circumstance, and it makes any victory over her look... sad.
Amy would totally spring for an option that lets her use someone else's generosity to solve her own entirely self-created problems, and it's not like she couldn't just knock Taylor out if she said no.
This ties back into the whole special procedures for homeless capes idea -- I would like to believe in a world where Vicky thinks that helping the homeless Tinker is better than just punching her.
Emma's plot here is definitely interesting, as was the speedbump of getting less-than-stellar powers. I hope we see more of her interactions with the other Wards.
I also quite like the "homeless anti-PRT capes may be mentally ill" reasoning for the PRT to go easier on them. Strategic reasons aside, it's humanizing for the normally hard-decision crowd. Taylor has an unfortunately deep understanding of being a victim of circumstance, and it makes any victory over her look... sad.
In a world in which there is more understanding among heroes about how to handle intentionally homeless capes, I can very much see Amy trying to be friendly (for purely selfish reasons) with the kind of pathetic looking Tinker who also happens to live on a completely different world.
Amy would totally spring for an option that lets her use someone else's generosity to solve her own entirely self-created problems, and it's not like she couldn't just knock Taylor out if she said no.
This ties back into the whole special procedures for homeless capes idea -- I would like to believe in a world where Vicky thinks that helping the homeless Tinker is better than just punching her.
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So, you're telling me this fucknut got together all the money for the bills, probably quite easily given a Protectorate salary, but got so wrapped up in his job he forgot to pay them.
And also forgot the groceries. Leaving his child in a freezing house to starve for TWO WEEKS! Through CHRISTMAS!
Congrats, I think you made one of the worst Danny Heberts in the entire fandom. The worst family in the Protectorate on record, Vista might actually be disgusted by the fact that her parents are better.
So when does the CPS agent try to murder him with their bare hands? Before or after Taylor screams at him on camera?
And also forgot the groceries. Leaving his child in a freezing house to starve for TWO WEEKS! Through CHRISTMAS!
Congrats, I think you made one of the worst Danny Heberts in the entire fandom. The worst family in the Protectorate on record, Vista might actually be disgusted by the fact that her parents are better.
So when does the CPS agent try to murder him with their bare hands? Before or after Taylor screams at him on camera?
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I was there for her first robbery! She did the same thing for groceries and then bitched out the Protectorate! Seems like she just wants to get by, I mean, otherwise she'd be holding up a bank or something. Right?
Simple is right! That dress needs some variety to it. Maybe a pattern or different textures? With the aura it feels like they could have gone magical girl a lot easier than whatever princess theme they're trying for.
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I'm honestly surprised I never considered that Cauldron might do something like that with their more volatile customers. It's safer to have some softer leverage on them, a way to destroy them without being directly involved, rather than always sending Contessa to just merc them if they get uppity.
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I think some different drafts may have run into each other here? Emma appears to be answering a question along the lines of "Are you ready?", but that isn't what the doctor said.Sandy River DL said:
...I also appear to be completely failing to understand what "set-piece" means in this context, sorry.
To be clear, though, I'm still quite enjoying the story, and thank you for writing! I just thought I'd point those out.
And some... developments in this chapter, yes indeed.
Yeeeep. Mind you, I doubt she's the only one who will/would be a "a bit perturbed". After all, a Protectorate hero's child apparently "starved out of" her "own home", almost freezing to death in a blizzard, triggering, and deciding that, even with a tinker power needing buildup time, in a city with as much gang presence as Brockton Bay, in the winter, it's better to live on the streets and steal to survive than join the Wards? One who, in her very first appearance, delivered a passionate rant against, among other authorities, the local Heroes? I think some of Danny's new coworkers, and superiors, are going to be very interested in exactly how something like that happens.Sandy River DL said:
(Though I admit, I hadn't thought that aspect of it through until reading serra2's and your comments on Hero!Danny here.)
Right. Low time, low money, just general despair and depression and maybe just simply not remembering, perhaps only even remembering (sometimes) to take care of himself when his own body absolutely insists, with the few family friends busy with their own lives and assuming that of course things couldn't be as bad as they are... it's a bad situation, but IIRC it seemed to me more Danny's fault only in a "he clearly really needs help" way.serra2 said:
Except... no. He has help. He has access to money, to a lot of people who could help more directly; he has a privileged position in the machinery of state. The Protectorate surely wants to make sure its Heroes are taken care of, that their minds can stay on-task (and their loyalty to the Protectorate strong), and if someone's triggered, well, obviously they're having some problems in their life, and could very likely use some help with them; it seems unlikely such wasn't explicitly offered. And yet, despite all of that, he just... doesn't. Maybe he got help for himself -- but once he'd gotten that, he sure didn't bother to send any Taylor's way.
Ah. Sorry you apparently got more than the reaction you were aiming for?Sandy River DL said:
No, no, nooo, Taylor can take care of herself just fine, being doing it for a while before Danny got powers, after all, and if things get really bad, she can just call the Barneses. Besides, Danny went home just... no, that was that fight with Hookwolf... and that was when he was in that important meeting... well, recently, clearly. Must have been, even if he can't quite remember at the moment. Anyway, though, for now, time for another patrol around the Boardwalk, keeping the city safe and brining in the paychecks!serra2 said:
And quite possible failing to actually catch the thief or recover the stolen goods despite all that, too.Aganippe said:
And then there's the question of damage to and injuries in/on neighboring properties as well...
Also, well, her actual trigger may have involved a Cauldron vial, but they're not wrong about Hausōs being an abuse victim, between her would-have-literally-been-lethally-if-not-for-Cauldron neglectful father and her sister-in-all-but-blood turning on her. I mean, really, Emma's abuse of Taylor did indeed cause her trigger, and it happened when it did because of Danny's neglect, so in a way it could be seen as just a technicality that she's a Cauldron cape, for this aspect at least.FirstSelector said:
I mean, if Taylor screams at him on camera, CPS might have to fight the Protectorate's PR people to get at his neck first.ShiftingSandLand said:
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►Brocktonite03 (Veteran Member) (Wiki Warrior)
Replied On Jan 8th 2011:
Ohh a new tinker is in town. I wonder what their speciality is, hey #bagrat do you know what else they grabbed? anyway onto the robbery itself, well it's good to read that no one was harmed another villain in town is concerning and a tinker at that.