Companion Chronicles [Jumpchain/Multicross SI] [Currently visiting: INTERMISSION]

Look, don't get me wrong: I like helping people. I'll leap at the chance to help a single person, especially someone I know—or someone who matters to someone I know, which is really the same thing—but I don't think I can say the same for some uncountable number of strangers. I guess my compassion just doesn't extend that far."

I hesitated, then admitted, "I don't know what that says about me."
You've got to pay respect to the monkey-brain.

You physically can't care about more than around 150 actual people at once (Dunbar's Number). To handle more than that you've got to start abstracting them out into representations of groups, which isn't as good for motivating altruism.

Expecting people to make sacrifices for people they don't can't care about is clearly absurd. Even firefighters must be paid for their service.

And it's only fair to hold yourself and others to the same standards.

So since it's unreasonable to expect other people to make sacrifices that benefit only abstract people they don't know, you can't reasonably expect it of yourself either.

The limitations of the monkey-brain must be respected.

A moral system that ignores the fact that it's got to be implemented by actual human beings isn't workable.
 
You physically can't care about more than around 150 actual people at once (Dunbar's Number). To handle more than that you've got to start abstracting them out into representations of groups, which isn't as good for motivating altruism.

Mod but sometimes I wish I could go back in time and force the guy who wrote the monkeysphere article to actually read dunbar's work in detail.

No, you are not limited to only caring about 150 people.

150 people is the approximate largest group for which you can keep track of all intragroup relationships and is functionally the limit on group size before you have to resort to formalized protocols instead of just knowing people.

Therefore organized working groups where you need intraconnectivity basically top out at 150.

That's dunbar's number.

There is no limit to the number of people you can care about.

There probably is a limit to the number of people you can actively care about in the sense of attending to at a time, but it's probably rather less than 150, and that's fine because we're not expected to multitask all of our caring about people simultaneously.
 
Expecting people to make sacrifices for people they don't can't care about is clearly absurd. Even firefighters must be paid for their service.

People need money to survive, dude. I don't think firefighting is a career people go into because it's easy. I imagine that if tomorrow you told every firefighter they'd continue to receive their current salary in perpetuity whether they work or not, a significant proportion would still show up for work the next day.

There probably is a limit to the number of people you can actively care about in the sense of attending to at a time, but it's probably rather less than 150, and that's fine because we're not expected to multitask all of our caring about people simultaneously.

Breaking News: Science determines 150 people to be the maximum possible polycule size. For some reason the polyamory community is underwhelmed by this stunning revelation.

I think the bigger issue is that the human emotional range only goes so far. Like, you can care about 20 people in a group individually but I don't think it's physically possible to care about the group as a whole 20 times as much as you care about each person, and that just gets worse as you deal with larger groups.

And while if you actually know those 20 people individually you can, in fact, care about them individually, when it's a group of strangers there's just... nothing there to grasp onto. All you can do is either generalize the group as something you care about a a whole, which tends to result in caring about as much as you would about a single representative individual and thus averages out to not a lot of caring per person, or you can do what Cass does and give it up as a bad job and reserve actually caring for the people you have some connection to, no matter how tenuous, because at least you can think of them as individuals.
 
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150 people is the approximate largest group for which you can keep track of all intragroup relationships and is functionally the limit on group size before you have to resort to formalized protocols instead of just knowing people.
Not really seeing a difference?

If you don't really know someone do you really care for them or for the idea of them?

Not saying that caring for the idea of people to the same level as actual people isn't possible, but it's not really the same, and people don't want it to be.

Imagine a man who cares equally for other people's families as his own. To the point that feeding the families of five strangers is more important to him than feeding his own family, simply because it means feeding more people.

Not saying such a person can't exist, but expecting people to be that person is intuitively unreasonable. It's not really how people work; you care for the people you know.

People need money to survive, dude. I don't think firefighting is a career people go into because it's easy. I imagine that if tomorrow you told every firefighter they'd continue to receive their current salary in perpetuity whether they work or not, a significant proportion would still show up for work the next day.
Perhaps.

If you halved their salaries though, would they still have enough to survive and keep working? Is simple survival enough of an incentive for those people to do the work?

Part of the point is that firefighting is a career where you risk your life for the common good, and people are rarely motivated to do that by abstract ideas.

If it was a minimum-livable-wage job, and you had to commute to the next town over to work instead of serving your own community, I think they'd be perpetually short-staffed. Even though "morally" it's still the same benefit.

The motivation to risk your life for strangers is simply not as universal as the one to risk it for the people you know.
 
Part of the point is that firefighting is a career where you risk your life for the common good, and people are rarely motivated to do that by abstract ideas.

I 100% guarantee you that firefighters are not paid remotely well enough to risk their lives for profit. Also, volunteer firefighters are a thing?

Like, I'm not sure you could have picked a worse example if you'd tried.
 
Not really seeing a difference?

If you don't really know someone do you really care for them or for the idea of them?
A teacher with a 20 year career taught far more than 150 students. Did she only care for 150 of them? No. Did she stop caring about them when they graduate? Also no.

Her attention is limited and her memory likewise, but at no point is there a limit on caring. She can love and care about 20000 students, it's not a problem.

Dunbar's number is about relational tracking, not some sort of inane limit on empathy.

We probably can't have more than, say, 100 or so close friends we interact with as close friends and a time because close friends are intimately involved with your life and thus with each other - meaning you need to track relationships between not only yourself and those friends but between each pair of friends.

That ability to track is the limit, not your ability to care. You can have empathy and love and affection and desire-to-help for 10000000 people - you just can't actively track all their interperson relationships, because relationships grow geometrically with group size.

1 friend (2 people) = 1 relationship
2 friends (3 people) = 3 relationships
3 friends (4 people) = 6 relationships
4 friends (5 people) = 10 relationships

Etc.

That is the limitation.
 
That ability to track is the limit, not your ability to care. You can have empathy and love and affection and desire-to-help for 10000000 people - you just can't actively track all their interperson relationships, because relationships grow geometrically with group size.

1 friend (2 people) = 1 relationship
2 friends (3 people) = 3 relationships
3 friends (4 people) = 6 relationships
4 friends (5 people) = 10 relationships
I mean, you're allowed to have friends in groups that don't interact. I could have four friends that are both friends with each other, A with B, C with D, leaving me with only 6 relationships to pay attention to, it isn't inherently triangular, or at the very least some of the legs can be [N/A] which requires minimal data to track.
 
I mean, you're allowed to have friends in groups that don't interact. I could have four friends that are both friends with each other, A with B, C with D, leaving me with only 6 relationships to pay attention to, it isn't inherently triangular, or at the very least some of the legs can be [N/A] which requires minimal data to track.
Yes, that's why I specified close friends who you expect to know each other earlier.

You can have as many friends as you want, the limit is on how many friends in a friend group. Or coworkers in a work group.
 
You can have as many friends as you want, the limit is on how many friends in a friend group. Or coworkers in a work group.

The real fun question is, do fictional characters count as "people" to our social tracking limits?

Now I'm picturing a sci-fi story where fandom has become so pervasive that everyone exhausts their Dunbar limit on fictional people's relationships. A tragic dystopia where social connection has been literally destroyed by shipping.

:V
 
The real fun question is, do fictional characters count as "people" to our social tracking limits?

Now I'm picturing a sci-fi story where fandom has become so pervasive that everyone exhausts their Dunbar limit on fictional people's relationships. A tragic dystopia where social connection has been literally destroyed by shipping.

:V
Unless you are shipping real life people with fictional ones, with the concurrence and participation of the RL ones, what is actually being exhausted in this scenario is your time and energy, not your social tracking ability.
 
Unless you are shipping real life people with fictional ones, with the concurrence and participation of the RL ones, what is actually being exhausted in this scenario is your time and energy, not your social tracking ability.
That should have felt less like a callout than it did.

As a side note, since no one has commented on it yet, there is deliberate irony in the quoted exchange that brought this discussion about:

Cass: I'm not sure what [not stopping to help literally everyone ever] says about me.
Homura, who would let the whole world burn to save the few people she actually care about: I won't judge.
 
A teacher with a 20 year career taught far more than 150 students. Did she only care for 150 of them? No. Did she stop caring about them when they graduate? Also no.

Her attention is limited and her memory likewise, but at no point is there a limit on caring. She can love and care about 20000 students, it's not a problem.

Dunbar's number is about relational tracking, not some sort of inane limit on empathy.

We probably can't have more than, say, 100 or so close friends we interact with as close friends and a time because close friends are intimately involved with your life and thus with each other - meaning you need to track relationships between not only yourself and those friends but between each pair of friends.

That ability to track is the limit, not your ability to care. You can have empathy and love and affection and desire-to-help for 10000000 people - you just can't actively track all their interperson relationships, because relationships grow geometrically with group size.
People build models of other people in their heads. Representations of their personality, their mutual history, and behavioral quirks that help predict their responses and needs. The more accurate your internal representation is to the crucible of reality, the better you can be said to know someone. If you have no mental model of something, it doesn't exist to you. If you feel anger or empathy for someone, it can be rightfully said that you feel those things for your internal representation of that person.

This internal model of someone can only be so accurate, because human limitations mean that not only can you only store so much information at once, but that information has invisible expiration dates as people change over time. (The dramatic phrase "I don't know you anymore" alludes to this.)

So when someone says "I care about you", the part of that sentence I'm disputing is not the 'care', so much as the 'you'.

A somewhat forgiving philosophical interpretation is that if your internal model is accurate and detailed enough, then when you say 'you', it's perfectly valid to act as though your feelings for your internal representation are effectively also feelings for the real person your representation is about.

On the other hand, if your internal model is wildly inaccurate or superficial, then after saying "I care about you", you can get an equally valid response of "No you don't; you don't even know me!"

So your ability to care about actual individuals is limited not only by your ability to feel the emotions of care, by also your ability to know those individuals. Otherwise what you are caring about isn't the individuals themselves, but your inaccurate representations of them.

In your teaching example, if a teacher knows basically nothing about their students beyond their names, faces and math homework, even if they experience a lot of empathy, love, and desire-to-help for their students, can they truly be said to care about the individuals themselves? I don't think so. I think they feel those things for the concept of "my students" rather than for any actual individuals who happen to fit that concept.

I think Dunbar's Number and the associated relational tracking makes for a useful cutoff for the level of detail & accuracy needed for someone's internal representation to be usefully equivalent to the real individual. Those 150 close friends are the people who are 'real' to you. They are the people you can be usefully said to 'know'. For everyone else, all you have to go on is surface level impressions and sometimes out-of-date data on who they used to be.


A related subject is whether or not there's a useful distinction between caring about someone because you know them, or caring about them because they fit some mental category like "my students", or "a child", or "a human being".

I tend to think that while there might or might not be a real moral difference between the two reasons for caring, one of them is much more reliable.

People can and do disagree about who fits into what category, and how much which category should matter. And the commonly accepted answers to those questions can change from generation to generation, and from culture to culture.

But caring for the people you know is a more universal human experience, which means it's more solid ground to make universal moral statements about. "If you know someone who is hurting, try to help them" is a much more useful moral rule than "If you learn that a hurt person exists somewhere, go try to help them."

For one thing, it's far less self-destructive. A moral rule should help guide your behavior, not send you down an endless crusade, because not everyone can go on endless crusades and yet moral rules should apply to everyone.
 
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It's not so much that I don't want to bring in heavy topics (because I do bring in heavy topics) but more that I don't feel good about magicking away transphobic abuse with this specific trope.I don't think we disagree here. There's a reason I said 'often': sometimes, violence—verbal or physical—really is the only resort left.

As a slightly off-topic aside, I think modern parlance puts too much stock in violence as a physical act that inflicts physical injury. Speech can be violent. Inaction can be violent. Limiting our concept of violence to physical violence ignores or even excuses the other forms. And that's part of the problem I have with the way I've seen people react to the WSBoPR trope: it is, in some way, a form of violence, and ought to be regarded as such.
With regards to the first para, I think the only thing worse than resorting to violence to solve a problem is resorting to violence that fails to solve the problem.

As to the second paragraph, my boss, who is a Quaker, has taken several seminars about learning how to communicate non-violently and is always glad to share what he's learned with others. It really is kind of disturbing the extent to which things that are considered "normal conversation" can become verbal violence. Eric's parents may not engage in physical violence, but both of them use violent communication styles; as Pratchett might say, they treat other people like things. They treat their children as extensions of themselves, and interact with most other people like they are the only real people in the world.
 
With regards to the first para, I think the only thing worse than resorting to violence to solve a problem is resorting to violence that fails to solve the problem.

How's that rule go, again? "If violence wasn't your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it"? :V
 
Chapter 113: Steady As He Goes
AN: Beta-read by Carbohydratos, Did I?, Gaia, Linedoffice, Zephyrosis, and Mizu.

Chapter 113: Steady As He Goes


I kept Megan in the loop, as promised. She gave me the 'You're doing too much' gratitude thing, which I'd expected, but relented when I reassured her—several times—that I had a perfectly functional understanding of boundaries and wouldn't offer more than I was comfortable providing.

I also told her I'd look into magical solutions for Eric's transition and confirmed that Megan hadn't brought him in on the secret. For the latter, she hadn't; for the former, it turned out the answer was as simple as 'send Homura to Moperville to learn the desired spell'. Having a seer around sure was convenient.

Homura was 'convenient' at a lot of things. She even managed to hire a new employee for the store—a woman by the name of Joanna—only a day after she'd suggested it, so I was home when Eric got back from his first school day of the new year.

"How was school, Eric?" I asked when he set his bag down on the kitchen table.

"It sucked, as usual." He dropped into a chair with a thump and propped his head up on one arm, radiating weariness for all he was worth. "A bunch of people made fun of my haircut. Asking if I got gum stuck in it like a toddler, or if the hairdresser had mistaken me for a boy when I got it cut. Petty shit like that."

"Language, Eric."

"It is, though!"

"Yeah," I admitted, "it is. I still feel obligated to discourage you from saying so in those words."

He huffed with as much indignation as he could muster, but couldn't quite keep his good humor off his face.

"How do you feel about your hair?" I asked.

Eric tapped the fingers of his free hand against the table for a moment as he thought.

"It dries a lot faster," he decided.

"That's all?"

"It makes it easier to see all the other ways I look like a girl," Eric whined, tapping his chest for emphasis.

"Oh. I'm sorry, Eric."

He harrumphed again. "Sucks that I can't just go to school as a guy."

"Do you want to?"

"If I didn't have to deal with people? Absolutely! But I do, so no." Which was more or less the sentiment I'd expected.

I spent a moment wondering if this counted as 'bringing up transition' enough to segue into 'magical options'.

"Have you thought about transition at all?" I ventured.

Eric groaned. "Can we not talk about this right now?"

"Absolutely! Discussion tabled."

He grunted, unzipped his bag, and started pulling books out.

"How're your friends?" I asked.

"What friends?"

"Surely you have some friends."

"I 'know' a bunch of people," Eric said, "but they're not really friends, just girls I hang out with so I'm not picked on for being alone."

"Those sound like friends."

"Hard to call them my friends when they'd drop me like garbage if they knew who I really was. All my real friends are online."

That was unfortunate but not unreasonable.

"Was there any silver lining to going back to school?" I asked. "Or was it misery all the way through?"

He opened his mouth to say so, reconsidered, then said, "Well, I got to play field hockey during PE."

"You like field hockey?"

"I always wanted to play sports, but Dad wouldn't let me—doctor's notes and everything. Said sports like that weren't 'ladylike' and if I hurt my face I'd ruin my 'natural beauty'."

Ire +1. Every time I learned something new about Elwick senior, I liked him even less.

"Well, I'm happy you're having fun," I said. "Do make sure you protect your head, though. Concussions are no joke."

"We're playing field hockey, not rugby."

"Are you wearing pads?"

Eric rolled his eyes. "Fiiine, I'll be careful. Safety first. Promise."

I grinned and clapped him on the shoulder. "That's what I want to hear. Have as much fun at school as you can, Eric."

"Thanks." He returned my grin, then cracked open a textbook—history, judging from the glimpse I got over his shoulder.

"Homework already, huh?"

"Just reading today, but yeah. Right back to it."

"Well, let me know if you need help or anything."

Eric hummed. "Are you good at physics?"

As long as I can keep Star Trek physics and 'real' physics straight. "I might need a refresher from the textbook," I admitted, "but I can probably help."

"Cool."

Eric finished his first assigned reading in about ten minutes, then closed the textbook with another harrumph.

"I'm not really feeling 'Eric'," he said. "I like it a lot more than 'Rebecca', but… I dunno. It worked for my character, but I don't feel like it's me."

"Do you have something else you'd like me to call you instead?" I asked. "You can feel free to try as many names as you want."

"Really?"

"Really. I know it can feel like an imposition, but believe me, it's not. Try however many you need to find the right one."

He gave me a searching look, doing his best to gauge my sincerity.

"I mean it," I insisted. "I know what it's like to have to choose a new name, and I'm happy to help you test things out—if you're willing to put up with the occasional error, I mean."

That successfully got me past the 'sincerity' check.

"Well," he said, "I was thinking something totally different. Would you mind calling me 'Dennis', instead?"

"Sure thing, Dennis. Would you like me to tell Akemi?"

Dennis gave me a grateful smile. "If you wouldn't mind."

———X==X==X———​

The 'detection arrays' I'd built years earlier had proven mostly academic. The immortal-detecting strings had given me a heads-up that Zero was coming around until I'd exempted her from them, just like I'd done for the extradimensional detector when Zeke had visited for a week, but other than that, they'd remained silent.

That week, they made a sound I'd never heard before.

I hadn't chosen the sounds for the strings; whatever they'd ended up with was either some esoteric consequence of the varying detection enchantments or something magic had chosen on its own. The blue magic-detecting strings sounded like a piano's middle C, the red enchanted-object strings sounded like a guitar's E, the yellow extradimensional strings hummed a cello's G, the green Uryuom-magic strings played a synthesizer chord, and the gray immortal-detecting strings Zero had kept setting off rang like a tuning fork. So when the wide-range array started making sounds like someone was failing to play tabs on a badly-tuned bass, I shouldn't have been terribly surprised to see the purple string glowing.

I was terribly surprised because that was the 'cursed objects' string, which I had never tested and had hoped never would be.

The town-wide string started sounding first, of course. The medium-range array followed shortly, as expected. I started getting nervous when the smallest array—approximate distance, half a city block—added to the noise, followed by a car with dark-tinted windows pulling up to the curb outside. A man in an outfit that screamed 'government spook' got out of the passenger seat and headed into the shop, which made me very nervous. Home Sweet Home was empty—the time of day combined with cold weather and holiday fatigue putting our business at an unusual low—so there wasn't anyone else he could be here to talk to.

Indeed, Government Guy headed right up to the counter and flashed his badge. "James Halley, FBI." He pocketed the badge, removed his sunglasses, and grinned at me. "Been a while, huh?"

"Have we met?" I asked.

Elsewhere in the shop, the alarms began to fall silent; I glanced out the window and saw the car had left.

Agent Halley frowned. "Three years ago, over board games? I figured you'd remember that, considering what a scene I made."

"Jim?" I looked him up and down again, comparing the guy in front of me to the gaunt, sketchy dude I'd caught staring at a knife rack with intent. "You look totally different." If it was just a matter of a haircut and shave, I might have recognized him, but he'd regained a healthy amount of fat and put on twenty pounds of muscle to boot.

He raised an eyebrow. "Really?"

"Yeah. You scared the crap out of me coming in here like I was about to be arrested."

Jim winced. "Shit. Sorry. I didn't think you'd be… is there a reason you would be 'about to be arrested'?"

"It's a long story." The last curse alarm finally stopped ringing, which reminded me that they'd been ringing at all. "Uh, not that it's not cool to see you, but are you aware that your car is apparently cursed as hell?"

"Huh? Oh, it's not the car; we're in town to take possession of some cursed items someone found in their inheritance. Since I was in the area anyway, I wanted to stop and thank you and Akemi for sorting me out. Is she around?"

"Yeah, she should be in the back—"

"I'm here," Akemi said, emerging from the door at the far side of the shop from the counter. "I heard the curse detectors start going off."

"Curse detectors?" Jim asked. "There's a proper curse detecting spell?"

"It's not a single spell," I explained. "It's an enchantment that detects a large number of things associated with curses—"

"Ah, yeah, wide-spectrum scanning. That's more or less how the PD trained me to do it."

My pride in my 'detector' dropped a few notches. "I'm not the first to think of that, huh?"

"No. In fact, I spent most of yesterday doing exactly that." He cleared his throat, then said, "Thank you very much, both of you."

Akemi took the lead on accepting his thanks. "Happy to help… Jim, right?" she asked. "You look healthy. What's the suit for?"

"He's a G-man now," I said. "How'd that happen, anyway?"

"Long story," Jim echoed, glancing at his watch. "I'd be happy to tell you another time? I'm gonna be in town for a couple days, but I've only got five minutes or so before I need to start walking."

I smiled. "That'd be great. I get off shift at two, if you're free this afternoon…"

———X==X==X———​

Jim was not free that afternoon, so we had to wait until the weekend. Dennis assured me he wasn't about to burn down the apartment in our absence, and Homura and I headed down to the coffee shop not far from our own store.

Roaster's stood out amidst the generally old-fashion Main-Street-Strawfield strip as a distinctly modern glass-and-steel building. The interior tried to walk back that impression, decorated as it was with rustic wooden tables and chairs, a hardwood floor, and diffuse lighting; the result didn't 'clash', per se, but neither was it consistent. Still, I'd heard good things about the coffee, so hopefully Jim wouldn't have any complaints.

Speaking of whom, Jim—still dressed like the platonic ideal of a government agent—had picked a table right up against one of the floor-to-ceiling glass windows, fair enough away from the other customers to offer a decent amount of privacy. We swung by the counter to order tea, then joined him, sitting equidistant around the circular table and doing our best to ignore the chill radiating off the glass.

"So what are you doing here, anyway?" I asked him. "I mean, why stick around after you sent the stuff off to wherever it's going?"

"Drudge work," Jim replied with good humor. "Sniffing around, making sure we didn't miss anything. Interviewing people who might've been exposed, stuff like that. I'm still the new guy, and this is supposed to be good practice. Besides, I may be new to all this, but Ed—my boss—he says my eyes are as good as anyone he's ever met. Uh, metaphorically."

"Your spells focus on detecting things," Homura guessed.

"Yeah. I'm pretty good at finding stuff, if I do say so myself."

I took a sip of my tea—nowhere near as good as the stuff Home Sweet Home served; taken alongside Roaster's typical-for-a-coffee-shop barely-average-pastries-languishing-in-a-small-case offerings, it was no wonder we drew a larger crowd—then returned to my line of questioning with, "How long are you going to be in town?"

"Another agent is going to pick me up tomorrow afternoon," Jim replied. "Well, me and any other magical contraband I turn up, but I've only got two more people to check out, and they're the least likely to actually have anything. If Ed didn't have someone like me to send after them, I'm not sure he'd bother; their connection to the site is so tenuous it probably isn't worth more experienced agents' time."

"So they're wasting yours?" Homura asked.

He shrugged. "I wouldn't call it a waste. It's low priority work, but it's not worthless."

"How did you end up with the FBI?" I asked. "That's a pretty big career change, isn't it?"

Jim grinned as he sipped from his paper cup. "Yeah. Not what I thought I'd be doing with my life back when I was in college, but sometimes the job finds you. Even if I was hiding under the bed at the time," he added with a nod towards Homura.

"I appreciate your trust," she deadpanned.

"Yeah, yeah. Look, all I had to go on at that point was a run in with a creepy spider thing and too many college sessions of World of Darkness. I wasn't going to believe everything was fine and dandy because someone hanging out with a vampire told me so."

"What about the FBI office?" I asked. "She gave you their number, right?"

"She gave me a number she told me was an FBI office."

"You must've called them eventually."

"I called the main office number listed on their website," Jim countered. "I half-expected the receptionist to laugh me off the line when I asked for the 'paranormal division', but they routed me right through. I didn't even know there was a paranormal division."

"It's not listed anywhere," Homura said, "but it's official and on the books."

"Clearly. What's your connection to them, anyway?"

"Have you met an Agent Vahn?" I asked.

"We're coworkers, so, yes. Friend of yours?"

"Family, actually. Our cousin."

"Oh. Huh." Jim studied my face for a moment. "I can… sort of see the resemblance?"

"Liar."

"Okay, yeah, you don't look much alike at all." He paused to frown at his half-finished coffee. "You heard about her kid disappearing, I bet."

"Yeah."

"Scary shit." He set the coffee cup down and leaned back with a sigh. "Creepy to think people can just disappear like that. I mean, people disappear 'like that' every day, often for perfectly mundane reasons, but I'd never had to think about it before."

"The FBI does missing persons too, doesn't it?" I asked.

"Yeah. Err, not our department unless we suspect paranormal weirdness, but the FBI in general, yeah. Why?"

"'Cause that's why I was alarmed when you walked into the shop. No, there aren't any bodies under the floorboards," I added when Jim made a face. "I'm sheltering a runaway, is all."

"A kid?"

"Yeah. Abusive parents."

"They know he is staying with us and thus far have been content to wait for him to return on his own," Homura clarified.

"Yeah, but when I saw him"—I nodded at Jim—"walk in, I was worried they'd gotten fed up and gone straight to reporting a kidnapping out of spite."

For his part, Jim looked positively nonplussed. "I'm not really sure what I'm supposed to say about that," he said, "so I'm just going to say I'm glad it's not my problem and leave it at that."

"Fair enough. Uh, back to your story: you called the FBI and…?"

"And they asked me to come in right away for an interview," Jim continued, picking up the narrative again. "Spooked me pretty bad, to be honest. Felt way too easy, like I was walking into a trap or something. I went anyway; figured if I was gonna get locked up, I'd rather get locked up by people who know what's going on than people who think I'm crazy. Assuming they didn't just shoot me or something, but I was already involved, so how much worse could it get?"

I chuckled. "What were you expecting, Delta Green?"

"Maybe a little, yeah. Turned out to be a surprisingly friendly meeting."

"How did you go from that to working for the PD yourself?" Homura asked.

Jim shrugged and took another sip of coffee. "It was a gradual thing. One of the guys I work with now came over to check on me a few months later, follow up, whatever. Brought the case file for the abomination I'd run into, let me look through it—I knew half of it already, so it wasn't a huge secret at that point. Then we got to talking, and after a while I went ahead and asked, hey, if I can find these things, can I help protect people? Two years of training later, I got my badge."

"How does that work, exactly?" I asked. "I was under the impression abominations were hard to detect, or they'd have been hunted down already."

"You'd be right; it's not as simple as just sweeping a town for 'em. What my original spell did, in layman's terms, is scan for 'magical biology'—it looks for living things that have magic as part of their, uh, 'natural processes' for lack of a better word. The important thing is that enchantments and magical items didn't trigger it, which makes it more useful than something that'd go off for just about anything."

"You keep using the past tense," Homura noted.

Jim tutted. "Yeah, the weird magic shake-up made things more complicated. The spell can still do that, but it can also detect a whole bunch of other things, too. Barely seems like the same spell, which is why I keep saying 'did'."

"Ah," I said.

"But, hey, flexibility is great. Now I can detect enchantments and magical items if I need to, which is exactly what I'm here to do. But I don't get to just cast spells willy-nilly; sweeping with those sorts of spells is considered a 'search', so I'd need a warrant if I wanted to cast a net wide enough to cover more than some cooperative citizen's attic."

"And that stops you? I mean, no offense, but"—I waved my hand at his 'government agent' getup—"cop."

Jim fixed me with a frown. "'No offense' isn't a magic shield against offending people," he noted. "Err… I could have phrased that better. Point is, actually, yes, I am a little offended."

"Oh." Well, now I felt like a heel; the Moperville FBI's Paranormal Division probably didn't deserve the brunt of my anti-establishment sentiments no matter how well-founded they may be in the general case. I said, "Sorry," and meant it.

Jim shrugged the apology (and original offense) away before picking up where he'd left off. "Anyway, to answer your question, if we know there's something spooky in the area and can make a half-assed case for 'hot pursuit', they'll let me 'off leash' to track them, but otherwise it's just not worth opening ourselves to liability. Say, speaking of which,"—he leaned forward and gave me a sly smile—"I never did find out why you set off my detection spell."

"She's a kitsune," Homura told him before I could get a word in.

"What? No I'm not." I shot her a glare before turning back to Jim. "Don't listen to her. She's having you on."

"She's a kitsune," Homura repeated, sipping her tea smugly.

Jim chuckled. "This is some sort of taxonomic argument, isn't it? Like, 'If a werewolf's transformation is a voluntary ability rather than a curse, are they still a werewolf?'"

I gave in. "I have the physical characteristics of a kitsune," I grumbled. "I am not out to bewitch and/or devour anyone."

"Kitsune legends are a lot more varied than that," he informed me. "The ones that frame them as monsters are just a convenient jumping on point for western audiences who are already familiar with vampires and werewolves. Foxes have a definite 'trickster' motif in folklore, but some kitsune stories have them as guides or guardian spirits, or just people with strange powers."

"You fit the bill better than you think," Homura added.

"Yay." I used a facepalm to hide the act of transforming my face, then glanced up to grin across the table with amber eyes and pointed teeth.

Jim recoiled. Not a lot, but he did.

"Warn someone when you're going to do that," he scolded me. "Jump-scares are cheap shots."

"I thought I was supposed to be a trickster." I daintily picked up and sipped at my tea, my poise and posture the perfect picture of innocence. The partial transformation's changes to my sense of smell brought out some of the subtle tastes missing from the low-quality tea, but they also made it impossible to ignore that the entire cafe reeked of coffee, especially the cup across from me. Aw well, you win some, you lose some.

"Also," I added as I returned to 'normal', "past experience indicates that warning someone doesn't help as much as I'd hope."

Jim raised an eyebrow. "Oh? What happened?"

"I would rather not talk about it."

"Oh. My bad." He paused, then decided to dare another question. "Is it just the face?"

"The ears and tail are a bit too noticeable to show off here."

"Ah. How often do you have to deal with 'foxy lady' puns?"

"Less than you might think, but mostly because no one knows it'd be relevant."

Having reached a natural stopping point in the conversation, we paused to sip at our drinks for a few moments before starting a new topic—or returning to an old one, as the case may be.

"How have your friends and family reacted to your new career?" Homura asked.

Jim scoffed. "Oh, that's been a laugh. Most of my friends see 'Paranormal Division' and figure I've become some sort of crackpot consultant."

"Would that be a consultant on crackpots or a consultant who is a crackpot?" I quipped.

"Depends who you ask. The former think I'm just along to offer a folkloristic perspective on claims of paranormal activity…"

"That isn't a terrible guess why someone in graduate school for folkloristics would end up in the 'Paranormal Division' of the FBI," Homura observed.

"Yeah," Jim agreed, "which is probably why they think that. The larger group lump me in with police psychics—you know, people who are either delusional or outright lying. My friends think well enough of me not to think I've become a con-man, but that just means they think I'm crazy instead."

"I'm sorry to hear that," I told him.

"Thanks. It's no one's fault, but it still sucks." He drained the last of his coffee and pushed the cup to the side. "At least they mean well."

"Hmm?"

"My friends. They're just trying to look out for me, which would be great if it didn't manifest as treating me like a schizophrenic. Rob's been particularly bad about it, which is… fair? I was a mess that night, obviously, so he's seen me at my worst, and then I went and dropped out of grad school and didn't come around as much… it's sketchy, I get it, but that's kinda how urban fantasy works with the masquerade and stuff, right? But there are still times I want to just say to someone, dude, I have a badge! I am literally an FBI agent now. Give me a little credit." Jim paused to sigh out his annoyance before adding, "I probably don't need to say it, but I don't talk to a lot of the people I knew in school much anymore."

"Not even about folklore?" I asked.

He shook his head. "Folklore stopped being fun after I got 'mugged'; I only stuck with it because I didn't know what else to do with my life. Knowing there's 'truth' out there that no one will believe took all the fun out of it."

"That's too bad."

"It's not all bad. I'm doing a lot better now, even compared to my undergrad days. I cleaned myself up, got in shape, started a good career. Besides, Moperville's got a whole community of weirdos, so it's not like I don't have anyone to talk to. I'm still involved at the university, even, 'cause they have their own paranormal science department tucked away behind the furniture, figuratively speaking."

"I've heard."

"Should've figured."

"What about your family?" Homura asked.

Jim shrugged. "They're all up in Minnesota, so they only got the normal parts of the story. My parents are thrilled; they weren't really on board with the folkloristics thing and think I 'wised up' and got a 'real' job." He picked up his coffee cup, remembered it was empty, and put it back with a frown. "Hey, enough about me. What have you been doing for the last few years?"

"Baking," she deadpanned.

———X==X==X———​

Since Lizzie still covered the first couple hours of each day, I had plenty of time to help Dennis get ready for school each morning, which mostly consisted of making sure he woke up at all and making us breakfast. I didn't enjoy cooking as much as baking—and I mostly enjoyed that because I did it with Homura—but as a chore, it was more fun than standing behind the bakery counter. I was even pretty good at it by this point, if I did say so myself.

And speaking of 'the counter', the biggest change to my work day was that it was now shorter, so I was home when Dennis got back. He'd spend half an hour or so decompressing from the day, then start on his homework; I hovered about in case he needed help and texted people—usually Lizzie, Paul, or Zero, though Tina, Megan, Jenn, and Max were also in my contacts—when he didn't. I cooked dinner every other night, with leftovers covering the other days, and then came some family time in front of the television before it was time for bed.

I say 'Dennis' because that's what he was using at the time, but that name didn't stick either. He tried Lyle, which only lasted one day, then David (or Dave, for short). I didn't mind—something I repeated every time he decided to try a new name on for size. Half the stress I'd felt over picking a name had been the fear that if it didn't work for me, no one would appreciate me changing names again. I couldn't speak for anyone else, but for me it wasn't a bother at all, and I encouraged him to use the opportunity to find a name that felt 'right'.

Slowly—ever so slowly—things became normal. So of course it couldn't be that easy; the Monday after school restarted, a letter arrived for Dave from the Elwicks. I strongly considered opening it the moment I saw it in among the junkmail; I had low expectations for anything they might decide to say to their evicted son and didn't want to hand him a letter full of hateful rhetoric. On the other hand, I also wanted to respect Dave's privacy and agency.

In the end, I decided to ask permission rather than forgiveness.

"Your parents sent you a letter," I told Dave when he walked into the living area after school.

He quirked an eyebrow. "What'd it say?"

"I didn't open it yet. I will if you want me to; it might not be anything you want to read."

"Nah. If it's for me, it's for me." Dave set his bag on the table and sat down as usual, then held out his hand; I handed over the envelope and watched as he dragged a fingernail through the top fold and extracted the letter.

He frowned, then blinked in surprise, grimaced, cringed, paled, scowled, and—finally—slumped. The cavalcade of reactions made me wish I'd just opened it myself and not let him deal with whatever the fuck that was.

"It's nothing I haven't heard before," he said, reading my thoughts from my face. "More of the same shit he always says at home. Though I guess it's not 'home' anymore since he wants you to, quote, 'take all necessary steps to ensure that I am no longer his problem', end quote."

I made a sound that could best be transcribed as "???", so Dave shrugged and pushed the page across the table so I could read it for myself. It was about as bad as I expected; Mr. Elwick spent several paragraphs dwelling on how difficult Dave was making things for them in a letter addressed, often and conspicuously, to his son's deadname. Even after several hundred words of malignant narcissism and the warning from Dave himself, the conclusion still caught me off-guard: an ultimatum for him to return home this weekend, or else we—that is, Homura and I—would be expected to, as Dave had quoted, 'take all necessary steps to ensure that you [Dave] are no longer our [the Elwicks'] problem'—which was well within the realm of what I was willing to do, but for fuck's sake, man, the reaction to your son running away to live with another family shouldn't be 'Good riddance!'

At the bottom of the page was a short message written in another hand—one matching Mrs. Elwick's signature. It said only

Please come home, sweetie. I miss my daughter. ♥

The fact that it followed everything else about the letter might well have made it the worst part of the message.

Most of the responses I was coming up with involved some amount of swearing, so I held my tongue because I'd told Dave off for cursing as recently as the day before and wasn't going to make myself (more of) a hypocrite for the Elwicks' sake.

"Well?" Dave asked.

"Well, it's, uh… it's as bad as you made it sound, I guess."

"The letter or the parenting?"

"Well… yes."

"Pfft," he tittered. "Yeah, that's about right."

I looked back at the letter again, trying to think of something, anything, to say that might brighten the mood.

"You ever see Matilda?" Dave asked, apropos of nothing. It took me a second to place the name.

"The movie?"

"Yeah. You know how at the end, she gets a happily ever after with that one teacher? I used to fantasize about something like that—like, you know, running away to get adopted by people who didn't hate me. I always imagined Mom would at least try to win me back. She was a crappy parent, but at least she went through the motions—before I decided I was a boy, anyway. But now they're daring me to try it—well, Dad is, but she signed it too."

She more than 'signed' it, I kept myself from complaining aloud. What I said was, "What do you want to do now?"

"I don't know. I don't want to talk about it."

"We don't have to talk about it now, but we do have to talk about it."

"Yeah. I--" Dave's breath caught, and he dragged his arm across his face to wipe away his tears. "I don't know what to do."

"…can I hug you?"

"Don't you dare!"

"Okay. No hugging." I raised my hands to show him they weren't going anywhere. "Do you want company right now? Or would you rather be alone?"

"Alone."

"Sure?"

He picked up his bag and slung its strap over his shoulder. "Yeah. I'm gonna… I'll be in my room, 'kay?"

"Okay." I realized I was still holding the letter and added, "Uh, mind if I borrow this?"

Dave didn't look back. "Keep it."

I waited until I heard his door close, then headed down the hallway to Homura's office and showed her the message.

"I can't say I'm surprised," she said after reading it herself.

"Really? Even after the whole 'expecting him to come home' thing?"

"He is expecting him to come home. That's the point of the letter."

"Then what about us making sure it's not his problem anymore?" I asked. "Is he trying to call our bluff or something?"

"It's not calling a bluff, it's emotional blackmail." Homura tapped the closing paragraph. "If you read between the lines, the message is, 'If you really love me, you'll come home; if not, it's your fault we're not a family anymore.' If anyone is bluffing, it's him."

I took the letter back and scanned it again. "Hmm. Yeah, I guess I missed that."

"Maybe you're too mentally healthy for that trick."

"Ha ha."

"I wasn't joking."

"Well, I wasn't really laughing."

It took three deep breaths for the hand holding the letter to stop shaking. I would like to say I was angry, but mostly I was just 'upset' in a way that left me feeling sick.

At least I didn't jump too badly when Homura reached out and put a hand on my shoulder.

"Hey," she said. "We'll handle this."

"How?"

"We could call his bluff."

I cocked my head, so she released me and headed back around the desk to retrieve a manila folder. "I already have the paperwork for changing guardianship right here," she said as she laid the papers out on the desk. "Shall I fill it out?"

"Shouldn't we ask first?"

"I'm not going to do anything with it beyond getting it ready."

"That still seems premature."

She hmm'd. "I thought we could present him with the filled-but-unsigned paperwork to express that we were serious about it, but it might put pressure on him to accept when he otherwise wouldn't."

"How are you even supposed to broach the topic?" I whined. "'Hey, kid, sick of your parents? Give us a try!'"

"Would you like me to do it? I may not be the most personable person around, but I'm sure I can be more tactful than that."

I moved from my position hovering near the middle of the room to directly in front of the desk so Homura and I were looking eye to eye.

"Are you really okay with this?" I asked. "Are you really okay with taking in a kid? I appreciate that you want to support me, but this isn't just my apartment, it's ours. I don't want you to just go along with whatever I want."

"Of course I'm okay with it. I'm not a doormat, Cass; if I had a problem with all this I'd say so." She stood up straight and folded her arms, though the smile on her face made it clear she was projecting confidence, not confrontation. "I don't use the bedroom, so that's not an issue. We have more than enough money, so that's not an issue. He's been a perfectly behaved guest for the last week, and we still have all the same 'security' as always—magic, superpowers, and so on—so there's nothing to worry about inviting a stranger into our home, if 'stranger' is even the right term for someone you've been acquainted with for years. I'm not 'going along with what you want', I'm suggesting the approach I think will work best for all of us."

Homura's smile evolved into a smirk. "Besides, you've been considering this ever since you heard about what his parents have been putting him through, haven't you?"

"…yeah."

"So have I."

"Oh."

She glanced down at the desk, then began to gather the paperwork back into a single pile. "Let me worry about this. How about you find something to take his mind off his parents?"

Like what? I almost asked.



"I think I have an idea."

———X==X==X———​
 
AN: Hey, look! Continuity!

Sometimes you meet someone once, in the middle of their own journey, and never learn how their voyage went or if they reached their destination. Sometimes you're lucky enough to meet again and find out how their story's going.

Jim's had a heck of a time.

So has Dave, really. Cass is doing her best but while she has several lifetimes' worth of experience, none of those experiences are in 'parenting'.
 
Cass is doing her best but while she has several lifetimes' worth of experience, none of tho
While no doubt some of the lessons she learned as a Protectorate member working with Wards helped, that isn't the same as actually parenting.

At least she has some advantages. She's got more money than, well, I hesitate to say ever spend, but she's not going to have to worry about poverty, no lack of resources, and contacts if anything wild comes up.

I'm not a doormat, Cass; if I had a problem with all this I'd say so."

This has even been demonstrated in-story, I think. When they went out to dinner together, or after the party, Homura made it quite clear that she didn't want any more than that.
 
One issue with adopting Dave, what happens after the jump?
Would he go with you?
How close is the jump to actually ending? I haven't been keeping track. If there are still a couple of years it's not like Dave is a 12 year old, he might be an adult who would be already moving out prior to the end of the jump.

That said, if they were pretty much his parents for a couple of years then suddenly disappeared that would suck, they'd have to tell him eventually I imagine. I imagine if they were to genuinely parent him for long enough they would at least want to give the offer for him to come along, although it'd be up to him (and I suppose Max, although I can't see him having an issue with it from what we've seen) in the end.

Would probably be kind of a shitty decision to have to make on his part though, imagine your foster parents who've loved and supported you are suddenly like "so we're leaving your dimension and are liable to never show up again, you can either come with us leaving everyone behind from your home dimension or probably never see us again.

I feel like you also have to bring Megan in on the conversation at some point too.
 
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One issue with adopting Dave, what happens after the jump?
Would he go with you?
I don't think it is necessarily an issue. Dave is old enough that he wouldn't be reliant on Cass/Homura by the time they need to leave, so the real problem is mostly the emotional channel. And, well, at that point you have the same problem that you'd with making any close connections before needing to move on to the next next Jump. You are necessarily leaving them behind, but that is not a reason to avoid making bonds in the first place.
 
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