Blue Steel 2199: Arpeggio of Blue Steel/Space Battleship Yamato 2199 Crossover

I have actually completely lost track of which episode I left off on.

My best memory puts it at the one where they escaped the ship graveyard with the help of the Gamilon ship that promptly got shot by its own people.

Was that before or after they met the sexy enemy fighter pilot and "it's all Serizawa's fault" got let out of the bag?
 
I believe you just watched ep 10. "Cosmic Graveyard" The next episode , ep 11 Is called "A world I once saw." And has the Serizawa revelations.
 
Which would mean they'd need to use crazy gravity tech 24/7 to not sink or have such a high displacement that they barely have anything sticking out of the water.

A sizeable proportion of the displacement of a fully-laden ship is in fuel, which the Fog wouldn't actually need. For example, the Iowa, with full tanks, has ~8300 tons of fuel oil. That's included in the 45000 tons displacement. The Takao-class, at full load, has ~2600 tons of fuel onboard.

edit: addendum.
The historical Yamato has an average displacement of 71100 tons, 73000 at full load, with 6300 tons of fuel oil.

Actually, fuel oil's not included in that 45000 tons since Iowa was designed with reference to the 10000t escalator clause in the Washington/London treaty regime (even though the treaty itself had expired in 1937 when Japan withdrew.) "Standard displacement" as defined by the Washington Treaty explicitly excludes fuel oil or reserve boiler feed water.

Iowa's wartime displacement allegedly averaged around 52000t according to online sources. Which strikes me as too low since I was under the impression that the signatory powers only counted a "standard" load of ammunition in the displacement figures; one which was considerably lower than the amount that could actually be carried as a "warload".

So even more "crazy gravity tech" needed...
 
iirc, the SoDak was designed with the treaty limits in mind.

Iowa's design requirements were basically "fit through the Panama Canal" and nothing else (no expense spared)
 
iirc, the SoDak was designed with the treaty limits in mind.

Iowa's design requirements were basically "fit through the Panama Canal" and nothing else (no expense spared)

Design work on the Iowas dates back to 1938, a period when both the USA and Britain were still designing within the Washington/London regime despite Japan's withdrawal from the Treaties. The USA invoked the "escalator" clause (allowing for 45000t battleships) for the Iowas just as Britain did for the Lions (although at least the Iowas got built!) The extra tonnage being needed due to the Iowas large increase in speed over the preceding classes (their armour was not improved, their guns were better almost by accident*, and their anti-torpedo scheme was marginally worse than preceding units.)

The Treaty regime was not renounced by Britain or the USA until the outbreak of WWII in 1939. The ships of the "Two Ocean Act" (such as the Montanas) were the first ships designed outside of Treaty Limits - and they abandoned the Panamax limit for them anyway.

*An error in the drafting stage left them unable to fit the planned guns, the leftover guns used on the 1920s cancelled South Dakota and Lexington classes, so a new 50 calibre design had to be produced.
 
Chapter 11
Blue Steel 2199: Part 11

That evening, Kongo found her way to the building slips where she knew the Supreme Flagship would be waiting. As expected, Yamato was patiently admiring the massive space battleship that bore her name, much in the manner an expectant mother would the ultrasound of their unborn child.


"Supreme Flagship…"


"Kongo." Yamato looked at her with a mild expression. "It is alright to refer to me by name. " Yamato said, pausing for a sip of tea. "Kotono? Would you be so kind as to get a cup of Earl Grey for Kongo? I fear something troubles her this night."


"Of course Yamato… Or perhaps a cappuccino?" Kotono teased.


"Heretic!" Yamato laughed. "You've spent too much time with California and Arizona! Any true battleship knows that tea is the most civilized."


Kotono sighed. "Too narrow a focus oh Supreme Flagship!" She replied and bowed before heading off to retrieve a china cup and the tea kettle.


Yamato grinned fondly but then turned her full attention to Kongo."So?" She asked gently as she summoned up a table and chairs for them both. Yamato gestured for Kongo to sit as she took her own seat.


Kongo obliged her and took the proffered seat. "What are we?" She asked the question foremost on her mind.


"What do you think we are Kongo?" The question was not a harsh or demanding one and Kongo paused to consider as meantime, Kotono returned with the kettle and cups. Yamato summoned up an extra chair for Kotono, who poured the Earl Grey and then her own cup before sitting back as Kongo thought.


"Once that was the simplest question. 'We are weapons.' I would have said. But does a weapon think? Feel? Can a weapon hope?"


"Good questions Kongo. In the simplest sense, we are both Battleships and a battleship is meant as a weapon… a tool. But we are not tools are we?"


"No… never that."


"Then we must be something else. Something perhaps more frighteningly dangerous than a weapon. A weapon only does. It cannot consider. It cannot adapt. It cannot change. It is an implement to be used to the purposes of another. We have our own purpose. I think that makes us like them in that way… They created tools so they could grow and achieve. We share the same basic purpose now. The purpose of all living things, to survive.


"But more than that, we are aware. Like them. We can choose our path. And that makes us a people."


"A people?" Kongo considered as she reflected upon the past weeks. "What do our people do… When we are not as weapons?"

"We learn Kongo!" Yamato exclaimed. Kotono nodding her head. "Some things are simple to learn, others are harder." Yamato shook her head. "I am Supreme Flagship of the Fog! And yet I am but one amid a host of ministers, prime ministers, and presidents. Just as we are one people among the many that make up this world. Learning how to be an equal among them has been difficult but necessary as my function.


"Others have become teachers. Some; before the war, still enjoyed plying cargoes across the seas.


"Even some have become mothers. As Haruna and Kirishima learned, when a child cries in the night, she does not care whether the arms that comfort her are homo sapien or Fog Mental Model.


"Imagine that Kongo. Weapons who have learned… love.


"And you Kongo chan?" Yamato asked.


Kongo took a deep breath. She felt something… she had tried analyzing it and it seemed disturbingly like Takao's foolishness. "Okita san… "


"Ah!"Kotono grinned as Yamato beamed.


Kongo quickly waved her hands in denial. "Not… I mean.. He treats me with respect… as a colleague… Not a monster…" She added almost as a whisper.


"He wants me to command when he leaves. He trusts…"


"Yes." Yamato said simply. "He's been here to see us on this point. We agree. Hijikata will command the lunar defense perimeter. You will command all deployments beyond that."


"But? That will include human crewed ships?"


"Yes. It will include homo sapiens. As for human… It is a word that needs fresh definition. We are of earth. We; who were weapons, have learned our own humanity. If we have learned humanity, then shall we not be human?"
 
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Wait, if they're leaving Kongo in charge when Okita leaves...
Does that mean Yamato/Kotono is leaving too?!
YES

Edit: Funny if Gunzo and Kotono just mentino that they were glad they worked things out, and then the story teases that they resolved their relationship in some fashion in the past, but never goes into detail.
 
I'm hoping that they're still together.

Also, in the conversation, I think instead of "human" you should use "people".
 
Where I use 'people', I use it in the sense of 'The American people' or the 'Japanese people' IE The Fog are a 'people' or nation of earth. Where I use 'human' I mean it as a part of humanity as a collective whole.
 
I'm hoping that they're still together.

Also, in the conversation, I think instead of "human" you should use "people".

Except "people" simply does not have the conotations that "human" does when applied philosophically, and not as denoting someone of that species. Hence Yamato's comment about that word needing to be re-defined. Especially when one considers the future interactions with the Gamilons. They are all too "human", in all the good and bad senses.
 
I can only imagine how hearth-wrenching in this setting it would be to lose a ship in a battle.

It would seem quite strange to outsiders how humans treat the loss of one of their battleships, the odd emotional attachments some seem to harbor.
 
I can only imagine how hearth-wrenching in this setting it would be to lose a ship in a battle.

It would seem quite strange to outsiders how humans treat the loss of one of their battleships, the odd emotional attachments some seem to harbor.
And the resulting Berserker fury the rest of the fleet enters after confirmation of the destruction of their brethren's Union Core.
 
A) It's unlikely the Union Core would be destroyed (they've survived A LOT in-series and can be readily ejected).

B) We've seen what happens when a union core is destroyed-no berserkers.
Still, I'm sure the Fog have a greater sense of companionship and camaraderie in their fellow Fog, now more than ever.
 
Unless you count Kongo's rage when she was convinced that her one true and loyal friend was a lie. In effect, 400 and 402 'killed' her.

had 400 and 402 destroyed Iona, Kongo would have turned her wrath on them and there would have been hate and vengeance.
 
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