- Location
- Ural, Russia, Earth
Welp. That poor boy is cursed.
Actually a question: do Russia has its own patriarch or do we still under The Ecumenical Patriarch's guidance?
Blood of the Frontier (CK2) Completed.
- Thread starter Magoose
- Start date
- Original
Magoose
SV's Questing Fanatic
- Location
- California USA
- Pronouns
- He
We have our own patriarch.
Turn 9
Magoose
SV's Questing Fanatic
- Location
- California USA
- Pronouns
- He
Turn 9
"Why does mother have to go west?" Alexi asked as you all watched her ride out of the city with her retinue.
"She has a duty to her people. And sometimes that duty requires her to leave for a time." You replied.
"Does that means she does not love us?" Dmtry asked.
You nodded. "Of course she still loves you." You knelt down to your children's height and put your hands on Dmtry and Ivan. "She always will. She just has to leave for a few months."
You didn't know if it was a lie or not. The Polish nobility was not clear on the living arrangments she would be living in, how you and your wife would be able to be together, and your children were unhappy about being away from their mother.
Diplomacy: With Zima gone and Poland now under her command, you no longer had to worry about your western flank.
(Choose 2)
[]The Order of the Dragon's Meeting: Alexander has finally set up a meeting for the Order of the Dragon. Cost: 5 Chance of success: 90% Reward: You attend the meeting of the Order of the Dragon.
[]Reaching Out: (The Sultanate of Rum): The Buffer state between the Persian Empire and the warring states in the Levant, Egypt, and Arabia, They do little to extend their diplomatic channels to anyone within the empire itself. But you need to establish diplomatic ties with them. You need to have people ready to negotiate if the Black Sea becomes contested. Cost: 50 Chance of success: 35% Reward: Foreign contact made, further diplomatic negotiations can be made.
[]Reaching Out: (The Sultanate of Egypt): The Richest of the warring kingdoms of the Middle East, they have vast swaths of cotton, grain, and influence. The Empire has long been allied with the easternmost kingdom of North Africa and has profited greatly from it. To tap into that wealth, you need to be able to talk. Cost: 25 Chance of success: 65% Reward: Foreign contact made, further diplomatic negotiations can be made.
[]Reaching In: (Random Province): Your father said that there are men throughout the empire who understood the dangers of the Frontier, and they are more than willing to meet and discuss its future and safety. Cost: 50 Chance of success: 90% Reward: Domestic lords met. New actions become available.
[]Lords of the Rus: You need to make sure the Lords of the Rus are going to be on your side. Cost: 5 Chance of success: 80% Reward: Relations with the Russian Lords improved.
[]Support Zima: You will make sure that Zima stays on her newly acquired throne. Cost: 5 Chance of success: 80% Reward: There is less of a chance the Polish nobles will rebel.
Martial: There have been some rumbles in the east. War has consumed them. You still have time to prepare for the inevitable.
(Choose 3)
[]Muster the troops (Personal): You will bring your troops to Novgorod to prepare for a campaign. Cost: 200, Chance of success: 100% Reward: Your troops are ready for campaign. Campaign expenses will begin.
[]Muster the Troops (Vassals): You need to call your Vassals troops up for campaign. The Rus is at stake. Cost: 0, Chance of success: 90% Reward: Your Vassals troops are ready and waiting at Novgorod.
[]Declare War on the Mongols: your oath is at the forefront of your mind. War will be declared. Cost: 0 Chance of success: 100% Reward: You declare war with the blood oath caucus Beli.
[]Spar with Nicholas: You want to know how well that man fights. Cost: 0 Chance of success: ???% Reward: You spar with Nicholas, Relation increase by 5
[]Drilling the Troops: You need your men in top shape. To be prepared for battle at any minute, and fight as well as any Imperial Infantryman. Cost: 125 Chance of success: 65% Reward: Troop quality of local troops will increase (Gain roll bonuses) Only the recruits will increase in experience.
[]Recruit More Troops: You need more able-bodied men in your army, and you know the Rus has a larger population to call upon. Cost: 50 Chance of success: 60% Reward: A D20,000 is rolled for soldiers recruited. Soldiers experience will be placed at (Recruits)
[]Request Artillery: You want to have artillery in your army. The High-quality ones, the pieces that are made in Rome and Vienna. Cost: 50 Chance of success: 70% Reward: You get a d100 for artillery pieces and a d20 for cannons.
Stewardship: The trade is protected… The fur must flow!... Axel now is not the time to make jokes, we can work on getting spice up here later.
(In Progress)
[X]In Dire Times (Supplies) You need Novgorod ready for a siege. That means food and clear lanes of supply for the city. Cost: 200, (This action lasts for 2 turns) Chance of success: 40% Reward: Novgorod will be ready for a prolonged siege.
(Will complete this turn)
[X]In Dire Times (Fortifying): Fortifications are needed to survive the Mongols. You need to get your hands on everything that you need to defend your city. You found some notes in your father's old books about making Novgorod into a citadel, along with other defenses like ballista towers. It will take time and coin, but it will make Novgorod safe. Cost: 2000, (This action lasts for 3 turns) Chance of success: 30% Reward: You begin construction of extra fortifications on Novgorod.
(Note due to actions that were taken in the last turn that has succeeded, In Dire Times (Fortifying) loses two turns of its action, meaning it has only two turns to go.)
Intrigue: You will do whatever you can in your power, you have to, to protect the people you love.
(Choose 2)
[]Purge the Spies: You want to find those bastards who see your home as nothing more than a ground to trade information, and destabilize your home. Cost 100 Chance of success 75% reward: The spies are dead, captured, or work for you.
[]Spy on Poland: You want to be sure that there are no lingering elements that do not want Zima on her rightful throne. Cost 50 Chance of success 60% reward: You discover plots against Zima, and warn her about them.
[]Spy networking: You want to get agents out around the world, and the empire. Natasha knows people that can help, but it will take time. Cost 100 Chance of success 75% reward: International and Domestic espionage unlocked.
[]Spiders hiding steel: Natasha is willing to get you some contacts within the imperial assassin network, as a thank you for killing Gavelo. Cost 0 Chance of success 30% Reward: You get assassins on your beck and call. Assassination rolls get a -10. New actions will become available.
Learning: A mind is a powerful tool, and you are going to use it as best you can.
(Choose 2)
[]Teach Alexi how to read: You want to be sure your son knows how to read. Cost: 0 Chance of success: 100% Reward: Alexi learns how to read, Alexi's Learning stat increases.
[]Teach Dmtry how to read: You want to be sure your son knows how to read. Cost: 0 Chance of success: 100% Reward: Dmtry learns how to read, Dmitry's Learning stat increases.
[]Teach Ivan how to read: You want to be sure your son knows how to read. Cost: 0 Chance of success: 100% Reward: Ivan knows how to read, Ivan's Learning stat increases.
[]Study your family history: You have never really bothered looking into your family's past, mostly because you always wanted to be a soldier. Cost: 0 Chance of success: 100% Reward: You learn a bit more about your family that wasn't told to you as a child in stories.
[]Workshops Galore: Rurik had an idea. Maybe you could hire some carpenters, metalworkers, and other skilled laborers and have them try to build whatever the hell they want and you get the device's patent for half of the cut. You were going to call him crazy until Jory said that was a great idea. And you didn't want to hurt the old man's feelings so you agreed to it. Cost: 100 Chance of success: 40% Reward: You get a workshop of skilled laborers and craftsmen experimenting on… stuff. What could possibly go wrong?
Personal: Zima is now in Poland. It has certainly caused a damper on the mood of your family, but it will be better.
(Choose 2)
[]Living arrangements: With Zima having to go into Poland, You need to find a way to make sure all of you stay connected and still be a family. Cost: 10 Chance of success: 90% Reward: You kids will no longer become unhappy being away from their mother.
[]Practice writing: You have no idea what came to you, but you wanted to start writing. Maybe your exploits and journals will be like Caesar's conquest of Gaul or Otto the Strong's brilliant strategic victories against your ancestors. Cost: 0 Chance of success: 100% Reward: You start to practice writing. Trait gained: Writer. New actions will become available. Learning stat will increase.
[]Practice Artistry: You do not know why, but the wondrous paintings and sculptures and drawings caught your eye, and the splendor of Rome has imprinted itself onto your mind. That and you need something to do besides the usual business of running the state. Cost: 0 Chance of success: 100% Reward: You start going through the fine arts to find out what works for you. Gain trait: Patron, New actions available, Learning stat will increase.
[]Spend Time with Zima: You want to spend time with your lovely wife. Cost: 0 Chance of success 100% Reward: You spend time with Zima, a potential for pregnancy rolls to begin.
[]Spend time with your children: You will find some time in your schedule to be there for them. What kind of man would you be if you were not? You are their father after all. Cost: 0 Chance of success: 100% Reward: You spend time with your children
[]A Night on the Town: So your bodyguards want to go out and drink, and want to bring you along. You'll go with them to shut them up. Cost: 0 Chance of success 100% Reward: Interesting events might occur.
[]Walk the City: You want to walk the city and see how your people are doing. Maybe you can learn something your spies haven't told you. Cost: 0 Chance of success 100% Reward: Interesting Events might happen.
[]The Circus is in Town!: There is a traveling show coming into Novgorod. It has everything, from singers to exotic dancers, to bears playing chess and being ridden on like horses. Cost: 10 Chance of success: 90% Reward: You have some fun at the Traveling Show.
[]Overlook: You can oversee a project personally, giving it a personal touch. Cost 0 Reward a single action can have a +15 roll added to the dice.
AN: There is a 4 Hour Moratorium on Voting for discussion and planning.
Enjoy the turn and choose wisely.
"Why does mother have to go west?" Alexi asked as you all watched her ride out of the city with her retinue.
"She has a duty to her people. And sometimes that duty requires her to leave for a time." You replied.
"Does that means she does not love us?" Dmtry asked.
You nodded. "Of course she still loves you." You knelt down to your children's height and put your hands on Dmtry and Ivan. "She always will. She just has to leave for a few months."
You didn't know if it was a lie or not. The Polish nobility was not clear on the living arrangments she would be living in, how you and your wife would be able to be together, and your children were unhappy about being away from their mother.
Diplomacy: With Zima gone and Poland now under her command, you no longer had to worry about your western flank.
(Choose 2)
[]The Order of the Dragon's Meeting: Alexander has finally set up a meeting for the Order of the Dragon. Cost: 5 Chance of success: 90% Reward: You attend the meeting of the Order of the Dragon.
[]Reaching Out: (The Sultanate of Rum): The Buffer state between the Persian Empire and the warring states in the Levant, Egypt, and Arabia, They do little to extend their diplomatic channels to anyone within the empire itself. But you need to establish diplomatic ties with them. You need to have people ready to negotiate if the Black Sea becomes contested. Cost: 50 Chance of success: 35% Reward: Foreign contact made, further diplomatic negotiations can be made.
[]Reaching Out: (The Sultanate of Egypt): The Richest of the warring kingdoms of the Middle East, they have vast swaths of cotton, grain, and influence. The Empire has long been allied with the easternmost kingdom of North Africa and has profited greatly from it. To tap into that wealth, you need to be able to talk. Cost: 25 Chance of success: 65% Reward: Foreign contact made, further diplomatic negotiations can be made.
[]Reaching In: (Random Province): Your father said that there are men throughout the empire who understood the dangers of the Frontier, and they are more than willing to meet and discuss its future and safety. Cost: 50 Chance of success: 90% Reward: Domestic lords met. New actions become available.
[]Lords of the Rus: You need to make sure the Lords of the Rus are going to be on your side. Cost: 5 Chance of success: 80% Reward: Relations with the Russian Lords improved.
[]Support Zima: You will make sure that Zima stays on her newly acquired throne. Cost: 5 Chance of success: 80% Reward: There is less of a chance the Polish nobles will rebel.
Martial: There have been some rumbles in the east. War has consumed them. You still have time to prepare for the inevitable.
(Choose 3)
[]Muster the troops (Personal): You will bring your troops to Novgorod to prepare for a campaign. Cost: 200, Chance of success: 100% Reward: Your troops are ready for campaign. Campaign expenses will begin.
[]Muster the Troops (Vassals): You need to call your Vassals troops up for campaign. The Rus is at stake. Cost: 0, Chance of success: 90% Reward: Your Vassals troops are ready and waiting at Novgorod.
[]Declare War on the Mongols: your oath is at the forefront of your mind. War will be declared. Cost: 0 Chance of success: 100% Reward: You declare war with the blood oath caucus Beli.
[]Spar with Nicholas: You want to know how well that man fights. Cost: 0 Chance of success: ???% Reward: You spar with Nicholas, Relation increase by 5
[]Drilling the Troops: You need your men in top shape. To be prepared for battle at any minute, and fight as well as any Imperial Infantryman. Cost: 125 Chance of success: 65% Reward: Troop quality of local troops will increase (Gain roll bonuses) Only the recruits will increase in experience.
[]Recruit More Troops: You need more able-bodied men in your army, and you know the Rus has a larger population to call upon. Cost: 50 Chance of success: 60% Reward: A D20,000 is rolled for soldiers recruited. Soldiers experience will be placed at (Recruits)
[]Request Artillery: You want to have artillery in your army. The High-quality ones, the pieces that are made in Rome and Vienna. Cost: 50 Chance of success: 70% Reward: You get a d100 for artillery pieces and a d20 for cannons.
Stewardship: The trade is protected… The fur must flow!... Axel now is not the time to make jokes, we can work on getting spice up here later.
(In Progress)
[X]In Dire Times (Supplies) You need Novgorod ready for a siege. That means food and clear lanes of supply for the city. Cost: 200, (This action lasts for 2 turns) Chance of success: 40% Reward: Novgorod will be ready for a prolonged siege.
(Will complete this turn)
[X]In Dire Times (Fortifying): Fortifications are needed to survive the Mongols. You need to get your hands on everything that you need to defend your city. You found some notes in your father's old books about making Novgorod into a citadel, along with other defenses like ballista towers. It will take time and coin, but it will make Novgorod safe. Cost: 2000, (This action lasts for 3 turns) Chance of success: 30% Reward: You begin construction of extra fortifications on Novgorod.
(Note due to actions that were taken in the last turn that has succeeded, In Dire Times (Fortifying) loses two turns of its action, meaning it has only two turns to go.)
Intrigue: You will do whatever you can in your power, you have to, to protect the people you love.
(Choose 2)
[]Purge the Spies: You want to find those bastards who see your home as nothing more than a ground to trade information, and destabilize your home. Cost 100 Chance of success 75% reward: The spies are dead, captured, or work for you.
[]Spy on Poland: You want to be sure that there are no lingering elements that do not want Zima on her rightful throne. Cost 50 Chance of success 60% reward: You discover plots against Zima, and warn her about them.
[]Spy networking: You want to get agents out around the world, and the empire. Natasha knows people that can help, but it will take time. Cost 100 Chance of success 75% reward: International and Domestic espionage unlocked.
[]Spiders hiding steel: Natasha is willing to get you some contacts within the imperial assassin network, as a thank you for killing Gavelo. Cost 0 Chance of success 30% Reward: You get assassins on your beck and call. Assassination rolls get a -10. New actions will become available.
Learning: A mind is a powerful tool, and you are going to use it as best you can.
(Choose 2)
[]Teach Alexi how to read: You want to be sure your son knows how to read. Cost: 0 Chance of success: 100% Reward: Alexi learns how to read, Alexi's Learning stat increases.
[]Teach Dmtry how to read: You want to be sure your son knows how to read. Cost: 0 Chance of success: 100% Reward: Dmtry learns how to read, Dmitry's Learning stat increases.
[]Teach Ivan how to read: You want to be sure your son knows how to read. Cost: 0 Chance of success: 100% Reward: Ivan knows how to read, Ivan's Learning stat increases.
[]Study your family history: You have never really bothered looking into your family's past, mostly because you always wanted to be a soldier. Cost: 0 Chance of success: 100% Reward: You learn a bit more about your family that wasn't told to you as a child in stories.
[]Workshops Galore: Rurik had an idea. Maybe you could hire some carpenters, metalworkers, and other skilled laborers and have them try to build whatever the hell they want and you get the device's patent for half of the cut. You were going to call him crazy until Jory said that was a great idea. And you didn't want to hurt the old man's feelings so you agreed to it. Cost: 100 Chance of success: 40% Reward: You get a workshop of skilled laborers and craftsmen experimenting on… stuff. What could possibly go wrong?
Personal: Zima is now in Poland. It has certainly caused a damper on the mood of your family, but it will be better.
(Choose 2)
[]Living arrangements: With Zima having to go into Poland, You need to find a way to make sure all of you stay connected and still be a family. Cost: 10 Chance of success: 90% Reward: You kids will no longer become unhappy being away from their mother.
[]Practice writing: You have no idea what came to you, but you wanted to start writing. Maybe your exploits and journals will be like Caesar's conquest of Gaul or Otto the Strong's brilliant strategic victories against your ancestors. Cost: 0 Chance of success: 100% Reward: You start to practice writing. Trait gained: Writer. New actions will become available. Learning stat will increase.
[]Practice Artistry: You do not know why, but the wondrous paintings and sculptures and drawings caught your eye, and the splendor of Rome has imprinted itself onto your mind. That and you need something to do besides the usual business of running the state. Cost: 0 Chance of success: 100% Reward: You start going through the fine arts to find out what works for you. Gain trait: Patron, New actions available, Learning stat will increase.
[]Spend Time with Zima: You want to spend time with your lovely wife. Cost: 0 Chance of success 100% Reward: You spend time with Zima, a potential for pregnancy rolls to begin.
[]Spend time with your children: You will find some time in your schedule to be there for them. What kind of man would you be if you were not? You are their father after all. Cost: 0 Chance of success: 100% Reward: You spend time with your children
[]A Night on the Town: So your bodyguards want to go out and drink, and want to bring you along. You'll go with them to shut them up. Cost: 0 Chance of success 100% Reward: Interesting events might occur.
[]Walk the City: You want to walk the city and see how your people are doing. Maybe you can learn something your spies haven't told you. Cost: 0 Chance of success 100% Reward: Interesting Events might happen.
[]The Circus is in Town!: There is a traveling show coming into Novgorod. It has everything, from singers to exotic dancers, to bears playing chess and being ridden on like horses. Cost: 10 Chance of success: 90% Reward: You have some fun at the Traveling Show.
[]Overlook: You can oversee a project personally, giving it a personal touch. Cost 0 Reward a single action can have a +15 roll added to the dice.
AN: There is a 4 Hour Moratorium on Voting for discussion and planning.
Enjoy the turn and choose wisely.
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Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
This is kinda obligatory.
We'd be crazy not to take this.
Take advantage of that bonus.
These three all go together, in that they stabilize us through intrigue. Poland is, for all intents and purposes, our responsibility now. If they rebel, we're the ones who have to fix it. If the people are starving, we'll get the blame.
This should secure our rear flank.
Two slots, three kids.
Sucks to be the youngest.
Between these two, I'd say go with the living arrangements.
Might be a good idea to DD on Spy on Poland.
- Location
- Ural, Russia, Earth
Considering we never even heard about the guy, Russia has wonderful level of separation of Church and State.
Take a page from our patriarch, the Pope!
Also, about that:
Moldova borders Ukrainian steppes, and, considering how freely Mongolian raiders felt on our lands, and how useful for Mongolia will be to spark a war between the Empire and someone else...
Diplomacy:
[]The Order of the Dragon's Meeting: Alexander has finally set up a meeting for the Order of the Dragon. Cost: 5 Chance of success: 90% Reward: You attend the meeting of the Order of the Dragon.
[]Support Zima: You will make sure that Zima stays on her newly acquired throne. Cost: 5 Chance of success: 80% Reward: There is less of a chance the Polish nobles will rebel.
Well, that's an obvious decision.
Martial:
[]Muster the troops (Personal): You will bring your troops to Novgorod to prepare for a campaign. Cost: 200, Chance of success: 100% Reward: Your troops are ready for campaign. Campaign expenses will begin.
[]Muster the Troops (Vassals): You need to call your Vassals troops up for campaign. The Rus is at stake. Cost: 0, Chance of success: 90% Reward: Your Vassals troops are ready and waiting at Novgorod.
[]Drilling the Troops: You need your men in top shape. To be prepared for battle at any minute, and fight as well as any Imperial Infantryman. Cost: 125 Chance of success: 65% Reward: Troop quality of local troops will increase (Gain roll bonuses) Only the recruits will increase in experience.
[]Recruit More Troops: You need more able-bodied men in your army, and you know the Rus has a larger population to call upon. Cost: 50 Chance of success: 60% Reward: A D20,000 is rolled for soldiers recruited. Soldiers experience will be placed at (Recruits)
[]Request Artillery: You want to have artillery in your army. The High-quality ones, the pieces that are made in Rome and Vienna. Cost: 50 Chance of success: 70% Reward: You get a d100 for artillery pieces and a d20 for cannons.
Wait another year to prepare more troops or muster the troops immediately? Not sure.
Intrigue:
[]Purge the Spies: You want to find those bastards who see your home as nothing more than a ground to trade information, and destabilize your home. Cost 100 Chance of success 75% reward: The spies are dead, captured, or work for you.
[]Spy networking: You want to get agents out around the world, and the empire. Natasha knows people that can help, but it will take time. Cost 100 Chance of success 75% reward: International and Domestic espionage unlocked.
Prefer to expand the network to prepare for the war.
Learning:
[]Teach Alexi how to read: You want to be sure your son knows how to read. Cost: 0 Chance of success: 100% Reward: Alexi learns how to read, Alexi's Learning stat increases.
[]Teach Dmtry how to read: You want to be sure your son knows how to read. Cost: 0 Chance of success: 100% Reward: Dmtry learns how to read, Dmitry's Learning stat increases.
[]Teach Ivan how to read: You want to be sure your son knows how to read. Cost: 0 Chance of success: 100% Reward: Ivan knows how to read, Ivan's Learning stat increases.
[]Study your family history: You have never really bothered looking into your family's past, mostly because you always wanted to be a soldier. Cost: 0 Chance of success: 100% Reward: You learn a bit more about your family that wasn't told to you as a child in stories.
Eeeeeeeeeehhh... Never thought about that side of having multiple children.
Personal:
[]Living arrangements: With Zima having to go into Poland, You need to find a way to make sure all of you stay connected and still be a family. Cost: 10 Chance of success: 90% Reward: You kids will no longer become unhappy being away from their mother.
[]Spend time with your children: You will find some time in your schedule to be there for them. What kind of man would you be if you were not? You are their father after all. Cost: 0 Chance of success: 100% Reward: You spend time with your children
This, I think.
Magoose
SV's Questing Fanatic
- Location
- California USA
- Pronouns
- He
Its because he's actually going out into the other areas of the Rus that have been affected by the Mongol raids and is preaching. He has no time for politics when his flock needs his help.
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- Location
- Mists of Albion
So he's an actual man of god, instead of a man of greed like the Pope?
Magoose
SV's Questing Fanatic
- Location
- California USA
- Pronouns
- He
Pretty much.
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
It does when said horses aren't trained to ignore loud noises.
Magoose
SV's Questing Fanatic
- Location
- California USA
- Pronouns
- He
Nope, we can't be the marshel, it was a one turn thing and since we ignored, it won't come up again for awhile.
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
So who got the job instead?
Magoose
SV's Questing Fanatic
- Location
- California USA
- Pronouns
- He
An OC, Reinhard Von Hindenburg.
- Location
- USA
Would have been nice to know becoming martial was a one turn deal, but that's life
Magoose
SV's Questing Fanatic
- Location
- California USA
- Pronouns
- He
The offer was for when we graduated from the academy, which we did. Since we chose not to go and consider the offer, Our emperor decided to not wait for it, and chose someone else.
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
So a grey-haired, one-eyed, old Prussian veteran who got recalled out of retirement.
Hopefully he doesn't get talked into running for office.
Magoose
SV's Questing Fanatic
- Location
- California USA
- Pronouns
- He
I couldn't resist
But seriously, it also gives me a reason to make sure we get the chance to become the marshal in a reasonable amount of time.
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- Location
- USA
So who was the martial while we were in college? Was it left vacant?
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
If we look at the omake when the option was debuted...
This is what's called 'future tense'.
Magoose
SV's Questing Fanatic
- Location
- California USA
- Pronouns
- He
The Mashel, before we were in college, was The Grand Prince of France, Charles the Knight. He stayed until he was relieved when we went to the academy.
Edit: yes the station was vacant for a time.
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- Location
- Russia
- Pronouns
- He
That is massive. RL Russia got a patriarch late in the 16th century, more than a century after Constantinople fell.
What lead to a Patriarch of Rus?
Having a more stable King-level title or ERE having less influence?
Magoose
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- Location
- California USA
- Pronouns
- He
An empire taking over all of Europe actually. But don't go expecting to see him right now, he's a bit bust with helping the people of Russia at the moment.
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- Location
- Russia
- Pronouns
- He
So Rus was able to say: Byz has a patriarch and they are an Imperial province, we are an Imperial province, too, give us a patriarch?
Edit: hey, invisitext!
Magoose
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- Location
- California USA
- Pronouns
- He
Pretty much. It was the only thing the Russians demanded when they became part of the Empire.