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Blood and Sand: A Wandering Inn Quest (Isekai/LitRPG)

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What will you teach the slaves?
[X] Basic Philosophy. Teaching them how to think and use logic will make the most impact.

What will you teach Livia?
[X] Economics. She has a decent enough grasp of simple arithmetic, and you can use practical examples for anything she struggles with beyond that.
What will you do with your minimal free time?
[X] Write in: learn everything you can about this world as discreetly as possible and if possible, learn magic stealthily.



The slavers need to see a quick return on investment, especially if you're going to sell your skills for money to strangers once out of the desert. For this, philosophy for the slaves would be best for a well spoken slave is more impressive on the short term than a slave who can count, read or write. Also, introducing the scientific method to Roshal is not the greatest idea in the world.

For the same reason, the child slaver should learn economics as it is both the most important and useful on the short term as well as not allowing her to be smarter, to learn how to think.
 
[X] Basic Philosophy. Teaching them how to think and use logic will make the most impact.
[X] Economics. She has a decent enough grasp of simple arithmetic, and you can use practical examples for anything she struggles with beyond that.
[X] Focus on teaching the [Slaves]. If they can get some sort of class consolidation (what is that, anyway?) then Livia will be thrilled with you.

Philosophy to make the fighters think more and to sound better to potential buyers or just sound impressive.

Something immediately useful to little miss slaver that'll make us look better and generally useful.

And because these slaves don't have much to do so may as well hold a class.
 
[X] Basic Philosophy. Teaching them how to think and use logic will make the most impact.
[X] Philosophy. It would be helpful if she knew how to structure a logical argument, and you're also somewhat curious as to what the ethics of a [Slaver] are. If there are any.
[X] Focus on teaching the [Slaves]. If they can get some sort of class consolidation (what is that, anyway?) then Livia will be thrilled with you.

You can't figure out magic, at least the [Mage] variant, just by meditating. I can't think of any other variant of magic users in the setting that can gain magic without an external catalyst. Except for maybe the cultivators, meditation seems to be a big part of their magical discipline. But that's not confirmed just a guess on my part from the very little we have seen.
Focusing on gaining magic of any variety except for the very rare like fae magic (which we are no longer qualified for) is not going to get us freed sooner. Low-level Mages are a dime and dozen in this world. What we have to focus on is to level up in our teacher class.
 
We'd probably need to be teaching them actual combat skills, but it'd be funny if us teaching gladiators got us some kind of Lanista class lol. That probably is a fusion of teacher and gladiator thinking of it.
 
Frankly we could try to teach them what a stereotypical gladiator on earth would act like and that might actually make them level up faster. Either that or crib from Russel's Crowe Gladiator in the hopes of a miracle. Mind you this is a last-resort-improvisation sort of thing.
 
Ashlar said:
Learning magic...
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The 'easiest' way to learn to use magic is to have a [Mage] teach you. This requires access to a [Mage], a certain degree of magical aptitude, and time to study. If you had all three of those things, you could learn how to cast the equivalent of a cantrip - like [Light] in a few days. The problem is, of course, that [Light] isn't particularly useful, and advancing the Class requires a massive dedication of time and energy.

There are other ways to learn magic, but they tend to be more unique - read a Relic-class teaching spellbook, be tutored by the Fae, obsessively try to use a magic wand, and so on.


jjffjhjf said:
Would we have enough knowledge of it to teach basic kinematics? Or just like... how leverage and motion work?
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You have at least a surface level understanding of just about anything from the high school level, which would include the basics of how kinetic energy and leverage work. You also have enough of a math background to kludge together some of the specific formulas that you don't remember off the top of your head, though you lack the experience and familiarity with the subject to do something like design a mechanism or anything that might more accurately be described as "engineering."

As an example, sure, you could teach someone about how levers and fulcrums work to magnify effort. You could even quantify it and give real world examples to illustrate the point. You would struggle to use this understanding to design a mechanism that incorporates a novel use of the lever.


Wiggy said:
We'd probably need to be teaching them actual combat skills, but it'd be funny if us teaching gladiators got us some kind of Lanista class lol. That probably is a fusion of teacher and gladiator thinking of it.
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That's more or less what the Sheik's personal focus is.
 
What will you teach the slaves?
[X] Basic Physics. They probably have all made observations about the active forces that hold the world together, but you'd be surprised if they had ever made any head way into the subject matter. Introduce them to leverage, gravity, and the reciprocal nature of force.
What will you teach Livia?
[X] Philosophy. It would be helpful if she knew how to structure a logical argument, and you're also somewhat curious as to what the ethics of a [Slaver] are. If there are any.
[X] Focus on teaching the [Slaves]. If they can get some sort of class consolidation (what is that, anyway?) then Livia will be thrilled with you.

@NewRole Is this write-in good?
 
That's a perfectly fine write-in. It's different enough from the described intent with Basic Science that I understand voting for it.
 
NewRole said:
The 'easiest' way to learn to use magic is to have a [Mage] teach you. This requires access to a [Mage], a certain degree of magical aptitude, and time to study. If you had all three of those things, you could learn how to cast the equivalent of a cantrip - like [Light] in a few days. The problem is, of course, that [Light] isn't particularly useful, and advancing the Class requires a massive dedication of time and energy.
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Could a [Teacher] with the spell [Light] teach it to others? Or would that absolutely require a [Mage] to teach?
 
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Could a [Teacher] with the spell [Light] teach it to others? Or would that absolutely require a [Mage] to teach?
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In theory, you don't need a [Mage] - just someone who can cast [Light]. But if you know the spell well enough to teach it to others, you've probably worked at magic enough to gain at least one level in [Mage].


mithril-blade said:
Hmmm, out of curiosity, how would, say, an MMA champion stack up to the fighters such as the gladiators?
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Most MMA champions would get stabbed and die, even before we bring Skills into the equation, because [Gladiators] use weapons. I assume that's not really what you're getting at, though. The problem is that it's sort of hard to compare fighting ability - the MMA champion would absolutely have a higher technical skill level than the vast majority of [Warrior]-esque classes in Innworld, but that also largely wouldn't matter in most scenarios. Having the higher understanding of kinesiology, a better base fitness from scientific nutrition and exercise, and the massive amount of institutional learning that's gone into the development of MMA is definitely an edge, but it really doesn't matter if your opponent can shoot fireballs at you or paralyze you with a touch.

Generally speaking, by level 20 people start to accrue advantages that can't be overcome by mundane skill. [Quick Slash] attacks that can't be dodged, [Evasive Flip] and other skills to avoid attacks, [Enhanced Endurance] to be superhumanly durable... none of those are uncommon Skills. Most [Warrior]-equivalents will get some sort of attack-improving skill (ie [Quick Slash] or [Power Attack]), a defensive skill (ie [Evasive Flip] or [Fortified Block]), and a passive stat improvement (ie [Lesser Endurance] or [Quick Movement]) by the time they're 20, as well as a half dozen other Skills.

There actually is an entire nation of [Martial Artists], though: Pomle.
 
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In theory, you don't need a [Mage] - just someone who can cast [Light]. But if you know the spell well enough to teach it to others, you've probably worked at magic enough to gain at least one level in [Mage].
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Yay, that sounds good for a potential plan once we have proven some initial worth to the slavers.

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NewRole said:
Generally speaking, by level 20 people start to accrue advantages that can't be overcome by mundane skill.
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Mm, I was gonna comment on the runner girl being significantly faster and more enduring a runner than the professional couriers, but I doubt any of them were over level 20, so that's fair. And she's a pretty good example of the, skilled fighter vs skilled [Fighter] paradigm too, given that when she tries to pit her martial arts skills against somebody she puts on a really good show, but isn't really able to hurt him through his defensive skills and toughness, and then gets shattered bones the moment she fucks up the slightest bit and gets hit.
 
So, there seem to be a bunch of people wanting to focus on the slaves because of the chance for the Class Consolidation? I'm not sure why, because that seems rather unlikely to happen. Wouldn't our best chance be focusing on the daughter since her opinion of us will likely affect whether or not we survive? Could someone explain why focusing on the slaves is the better choice?
 
Birthday said:
So, there seem to be a bunch of people wanting to focus on the slaves because of the chance for the Class Consolidation? I'm not sure why, because that seems rather unlikely to happen. Wouldn't our best chance be focusing on the daughter since her opinion of us will likely affect whether or not we survive? Could someone explain why focusing on the slaves is the better choice?
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One idea on why not to focus on slaver: be useful enough to survive until we are out of the desert and hope we get better chances then, but avoid being too usefull to the slavers (because fuck slavers + lets not help our enemy more than we must).

As for focussing on the other slaves: making friends? Being helpful while not helping the slavers too much?
 
[X] Basic Philosophy. Teaching them how to think and use logic will make the most impact.
[X] Economics. She has a decent enough grasp of simple arithmetic, and you can use practical examples for anything she struggles with beyond that.
[X] Focus on teaching the [Slaves]. If they can get some sort of class consolidation (what is that, anyway?) then Livia will be thrilled with you.
 
Toboe said:
One idea on why not to focus on slaver: be useful enough to survive until we are out of the desert and hope we get better chances then, but avoid being too usefull to the slavers (because fuck slavers + lets not help our enemy more than we must).

As for focussing on the other slaves: making friends? Being helpful while not helping the slavers too much?
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I kinda just want to focus on excellence for now. Being a slave aside, we kind of have to live in this world and we'll be the same kind of person when we are free that we are now.
 
There's gotta be some class that could break the effects of slave, huh? Like, revolutionary or something might fuse with it to be Rebel Slave or something. I suppose if there's Slavers, there's probably a Liberator class that could do something to the Slave class, though I doubt we'll see one show up and put this society to the sword.
 
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    • Looks like focusing on teaching philosophy to the slaves won out handily, with teaching economics to Livia eking out a victory over philosophy. Update will be out at some point tonight.

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    • Wiggy said:
    There's gotta be some class that could break the effects of slave, huh? Like, revolutionary or something might fuse with it to be Rebel Slave or something. I suppose if there's Slavers, there's probably a Liberator class that could do something to the Slave class, though I doubt we'll see one show up and put this society to the sword.
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    [Rebel] is a class that a Slave can get that removes the [Slave] class. Or perhaps in the process of removing the [Slave] class from yourself you gain the [Rebel] class? Hard to say really, haven't seen it much. Still it is possible to remove the [Slave] class ourselves. If difficult.
     
    jjffjhjf said:
    [Rebel] is a class that a Slave can get that removes the [Slave] class. Or perhaps in the process of removing the [Slave] class from yourself you gain the [Rebel] class? Hard to say really, haven't seen it much. Still it is possible to remove the [Slave] class ourselves. If difficult.
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    You can also ask a ruler class to remove it for you, I'm not sure of the specifics, but a [King] or equivalent or higher class should be able to do it.

    Not sure how it works though, maybe we have to swear loyalty. Or it might be it's more that a ruler can remove any class.
     
    I'm pretty sure you don't have to swear loyalty to a [King] to get them to remove a class, but there's still the issue of getting a monarch to give you the time of day. That said there are ways of getting around being a slave, it's not impossible to escape despite there being classes geared around keeping and handling slaves. Even if we don't get the class removed to start out with there are places you can hide.

    We could run away to Pomle, it's a somewhat harsh place, located in between three countries if I'm not mistaken but there is a peace there thanks to the martial artists that train there and very few nations want to piss off a desolate wasteland that breeds some really badass warriors. If a slave escapes there, other nations can't really do anything short of trying to send an agent to recover you and likely getting bitch slapped by it's inhabitants. Barring that there's stuff like getting rescued by the super rainbow Djinn and other incredibly unlikely events, frankly being a rebel is probably one of the easiest ways to get around being a [Slave] but just because it's the easiest doesn't mean its easy. Slavers in Innsworld come down hard on dissent.
     
    Alright then, well before the Singer then. And likely well before most folks know to look for Earthers, that's good. Hopefully by the time it becomes something Roshal knows much about, we'll not really be suspicious in that way anymore.
     
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