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This is a point, though one thing to remember: you're almost out of time. At least if Kiralo is right, you have at most one more turn before the war begins.
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This is a point, though one thing to remember: you're almost out of time. At least if Kiralo is right, you have at most one more turn before the war begins.
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Wouldn't that be at least one more turn, at most two if we're really lucky?
We're at Turn 7 right now and we still have, if Kiralo was correct, Turn 8 and possibly (but probably not) Turn 9?
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Clarifying here, that should mean, in context, the *start* of turn 9. Like, it's possible that you could get all of Turn 8, it's possible you could get cut off at the very end, and it's not very likely you could get more than a little of Turn 9.
There will actually be a decision you'll be making to see if there is a Turn 8 or whether you start the ball rolling at the start of that month. Timing will be very crucial. The world is moving fast, now.
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That does change things quite a bit. Time has a way of putting a perspective in our actions.
[X] Attempt to engage Hiro in the politics of Hari-Nat...now might be a chance to influence the civil war, but, at the same time…
Well, before the expedition, we should first try and survive the civil war with Csirit not rent apart, no?
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[X] Attempt to engage Hiro in the politics of Hari-Nat...now might be a chance to influence the civil war, but, at the same time…
Changed my mind. We don't have the time to carefully build a relationship, we need support right now. After the war we can consider sending expedions in search of snakes.
Changed my mind. We don't have the time to carefully build a relationship, we need support right now. After the war we can consider sending expedions in search of snakes.
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[X] Attempt to engage Hiro in the politics of Hari-Nat...now might be a chance to influence the civil war, but, at the same time…
Couldn't we try to keep him in the Capitol so that when the war starts the governors son could be used as leverage to bring Hari-Nat to side with the Emperor. If they don't help us then his son will "volunteer " to the front lines.
Couldn't we try to keep him in the Capitol so that when the war starts the governors son could be used as leverage to bring Hari-Nat to side with the Emperor. If they don't help us then his son will "volunteer " to the front lines.
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Vote closed, tally please.
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##### NetTally 1.7.4
[X] Attempt to engage Hiro in the politics of Hari-Nat...now might be a chance to influence the civil war, but, at the same time…
No. of Votes: 6
[X] Try to prepare the way for Kuojah to approve some sort of...expedition. Because the look on Hiro's face...he's going to go, no matter who is Emperor.
No. of Votes: 3
[X] Try to talk to Hiro and learn more about his experiences with these barbarians...and any rumors he might hear.
No. of Votes: 3
Total No. of Voters: 12
##### NetTally 1.7.4
[X] Attempt to engage Hiro in the politics of Hari-Nat...now might be a chance to influence the civil war, but, at the same time…
No. of Votes: 6
[X] Try to prepare the way for Kuojah to approve some sort of...expedition. Because the look on Hiro's face...he's going to go, no matter who is Emperor.
No. of Votes: 3
[X] Try to talk to Hiro and learn more about his experiences with these barbarians...and any rumors he might hear.
No. of Votes: 3
Total No. of Voters: 12
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Vote Tally : Original - Fantasy - Behind the Serpent Throne (CK2) | Page 86 | Sufficient Velocity
##### NetTally 1.7.3.2
[X] Attempt to engage Hiro in the politics of Hari-Nat...now might be a chance to influence the civil war, but, at the same time…
No. of Votes: 6
[X] Try to prepare the way for Kuojah to approve some sort of...expedition. Because the look on Hiro's face...he's going to go, no matter who is Emperor.
No. of Votes: 3
[X] Try to talk to Hiro and learn more about his experiences with these barbarians...and any rumors he might hear.
No. of Votes: 3
Total No. of Voters: 12
##### NetTally 1.7.3.2
[X] Attempt to engage Hiro in the politics of Hari-Nat...now might be a chance to influence the civil war, but, at the same time…
No. of Votes: 6
[X] Try to prepare the way for Kuojah to approve some sort of...expedition. Because the look on Hiro's face...he's going to go, no matter who is Emperor.
No. of Votes: 3
[X] Try to talk to Hiro and learn more about his experiences with these barbarians...and any rumors he might hear.
No. of Votes: 3
Total No. of Voters: 12
EDIT: Damnit, ninja'd!
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Not sure how long it'll take to write, we'll see I suppose?
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I need two rolls. A d100 for 'Secondary Hiro'.
And a d100 for ???.
And a d100 for ???.
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Right, I'll do the Hiro roll then. Would be nice if someone else did the other roll.
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Turn 7--Results, F
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Turn 7--Results, F
[X] Attempt to engage Hiro in the politics of Hari-Nat...now might be a chance to influence the civil war, but, at the same time…
The world watches them. Everyone watches Kiralo, of Lineage Ainin. He is aware of what judgement is. But of whom? It was necessary to conquer the enemy empire, but was it necessary to do as they did, a thousand years before and more, to slaughter an entire people for heresy, rather than merely subjegating them?
Judgement did not merely mean for them. It oculd be that it was Csirit whom the Judges wished to judge. It was impossible to know, but what he did know was that in the eyes of man, the civil war is what would affect lives.
The Gods apparently cared far more for this 'judgement' and he understood why. Yet men and women lived and died in these small conflicts. If he did not win the civil war, there would not be a time afterwards, for him to repent. He would die.
Lives depended on him, and he knew it was selfish in one sense, that he cared that his life depended on it. But it mattered. It mattered to him, and having come to court for this, having worked for months…
War would begin. The Gods could judge him, and he'd happily submit to their scorn if it was wrong to act as he did. Man must live in the world and accept that he will fail. And so Kiralo approached Hiro as he walked down an old hall called the Prophet's Walk, for whatever reason.
Kiralo didn't know why, actually, as he approached Hiro. "Cs-Hiro, may I speak with you for a moment?"
The other man had left as soon as he could, shaken and tired. Questions had been asked and he had answered a little, about the appearance of the ice-men, and other small details. And then he'd taken his leave, with a quiet dignity that reminded Kiralo that this man was the heir of a Governor.
No matter that he was also the bearer of news that rewrote the entire history of a thousand years in a new light--How had they survived? In what form?--he was a man who could navigate the halls of power, at least in theory.
"Yes. I suppose this is the place for it," Hiro said. There was a tone to his voice that had to make Kiralo ask…
"What do you mean by that?"
"Is this not the Prophet's Walk?"
"It is." Kiralo frowned, unsure of the point.
"And you don't know how it got its name? May I enlighten you, Cs-Kiralo?"
Kiralo nodded, uncertainly.
"Once, four-hundred and forty years ago, the Emperor woke from a dream in which the Gods had seemed to say that even the smallest step echoes in the greatest act. Just as you can look at a single poorly minted coin and know that the treasury is corrupt, so too can one look at the small details of the Gods' creation and see truth. And so he thought to test this, to see if he could tell the future and know the virtue of people. So he created...look down."
Kiralo glanced at the tiles and saw that they were startlingly small. The size of his palm, most of them, and that was another thing. Their size and shape wasn't normal, instead each piece seemed subtly different.
"Each tile corresponded to a mystic word, and then he had servants and spirits watch." Hiro pointed to the multiple doors that were there. "And he had random servants dance upon them, or blindfolded a man and had him stumble. Time and again, and he watched and recorded, and it was said with great virtue and wisdom he could see the future. But then, the courtiers found and through corruption gained access to the book of auspicious signs and began to walk specifically to cover their lies and corruption, to make the Emperor think that the world was going well."
Hiro shook his head, "They hid news of a famine, and tried to cover up the depth of losses as Bueli stormed the borders. When the Emperor learned, in his fell and just wrath he executed his most prominent courtiers for treason, and had most of the tiles removed. He left this one small section as a sort of silent witness. He recovered, but it goes to show you what the Imperial Court is like. True prophecy and true religion are smothered in their graves, my father says, by crafty manipulation."
Kiralo blinked. "I did not know it."
"I knew it since I was eight. I asked my father for a story, because I wanted to hear about the Imperial Court. He told me that story, because it was what any man should know about the court. And so, why are you here?"
Kiralo frowned, uncertain and off-balance. "I am here to ask for your help. Think on this. If this war gets out of hand, the civil war...then the Empire will be deeply harmed. It will be weak, and prey to enemies from both within and without. There will be no time and energy for mounting an expedition, unless Hari-Nat uses its own limited resources."
"Could that not be just as great an argument for backing Prince Jinhai, if the goal was merely to end any civil conflict as fast as possible?"
Kiralo stiffened, stunned by the audacity. And Hiro did have a defense of sort. He'd put it as a question, and more importantly he was the son of a Governor. But putting such a question...there were people who had been executed for treason for saying less. And yet--
"I am arrogant, perhaps, in that I think that with your help I can win," Kiralo said. "But there is more than that. You say the court denies true religion. The Emperor is a good child, and will grow to be a divine ruler as his father was. Csirit had peace and prosperity these last twenty years, from what I know--"
"And it comes back to fathers," Hiro said, quietly.
"Perhaps it does and perhaps it does not." Kiralo hesitated and said, "Your father grieved greatly when you were thought dead. Even at court we heard of his sorrow. Go meet with the Emperor. Smile at him, know who he is, and then picture him dead. Poison in his tea, a childhood accident...perhaps he will be allowed to ride by his new regent, Prince Jinhai, and then he too will slip from the saddle. It is common," Kiralo said, "It is not just the court that attempts to influence the world through trickery. Prince Jinhai will devour that boy, gobble him up. Even now, we are trying to thwart his attempts to bring in outside mercenaries--"
"Like your own people?" Hiro asked.
Kiralo thought to the news. Down south, Kiralo's word meant something. Down south, he had sent as many messages as he could. In the Southlands, they had made real progress in stopping any attempts to hire mercenaries. Going that far north was already a dangerous occupation, so if one tried, and one bribed the right people...thus far it had been a success, and once the war started, hopefully the chaos would make any such attempt impossible.
"I am a Captain. Why should I not want to have my men near me?" Kiralo asked, "I mean no harm to the world--"
"There are those that would say that bringing even a single foreigner to our sacred lands is an affront to all that is good and right in the world."
Kiralo took a flying leap. Kiralo spoke. Perhaps the world changed in its own small way. "Are you one of them, Cs-Hiro?"
"I...am not."
"And neither am I. I want to support your journey back north, I want to support expeditions if that's what helps," Kiralo said, "And I want to protect the people of Csirit. But I am not my father, and that means that I must make my own way." Kiralo stepped forward, just slightly shorter than the other man, the space between them closing. "I must do what I can for the Empire. And Hari-Nat could save us. It could save the Empire. You have power here, even in this court you think is twisted. Your silence and your words are both a form of strength."
"There are many types of strength," Hiro said, softly. His lips twisted into a smile that oddly drew attention from his rough shave. "I...can tell my father what you have said."
"Tell him I am willing to listen to his ideas and thoughts, I am willing to listen to anyone. If he likes my father, then let him understand that I will not cast aside all of his policies merely because my feelings towards my father are mixed. I will judge them as best I can, on their own merits. And if he mislikes my father, allow him to also understand that--"
Hiro leaned in. "That you are different?"
"Yes," Kiralo said. "That I am different. And I don't doubt that you are too, in your ways."
Hiro paused, standing there, and for a moment Kiralo wondered what Hiro would do, because those intense eyes and features now seemed knit with a doubt that, if the stories were true, was positively un-Hiro-like.
"I will consider this. War will come, and standing aloof...might not be the best choice."
Hiro turned, and walked away. Kiralo watched him go, war plans changing in his head, shifting and altering.
Every moment the world changed, if you knew how to look.
*****
A/N: So, I'm really, really sorry this took so long to get out.
I meant to post this last night, but I got distracted and then it was ten so I decided to wait until the morning.
[X] Attempt to engage Hiro in the politics of Hari-Nat...now might be a chance to influence the civil war, but, at the same time…
The world watches them. Everyone watches Kiralo, of Lineage Ainin. He is aware of what judgement is. But of whom? It was necessary to conquer the enemy empire, but was it necessary to do as they did, a thousand years before and more, to slaughter an entire people for heresy, rather than merely subjegating them?
Judgement did not merely mean for them. It oculd be that it was Csirit whom the Judges wished to judge. It was impossible to know, but what he did know was that in the eyes of man, the civil war is what would affect lives.
The Gods apparently cared far more for this 'judgement' and he understood why. Yet men and women lived and died in these small conflicts. If he did not win the civil war, there would not be a time afterwards, for him to repent. He would die.
Lives depended on him, and he knew it was selfish in one sense, that he cared that his life depended on it. But it mattered. It mattered to him, and having come to court for this, having worked for months…
War would begin. The Gods could judge him, and he'd happily submit to their scorn if it was wrong to act as he did. Man must live in the world and accept that he will fail. And so Kiralo approached Hiro as he walked down an old hall called the Prophet's Walk, for whatever reason.
Kiralo didn't know why, actually, as he approached Hiro. "Cs-Hiro, may I speak with you for a moment?"
The other man had left as soon as he could, shaken and tired. Questions had been asked and he had answered a little, about the appearance of the ice-men, and other small details. And then he'd taken his leave, with a quiet dignity that reminded Kiralo that this man was the heir of a Governor.
No matter that he was also the bearer of news that rewrote the entire history of a thousand years in a new light--How had they survived? In what form?--he was a man who could navigate the halls of power, at least in theory.
"Yes. I suppose this is the place for it," Hiro said. There was a tone to his voice that had to make Kiralo ask…
"What do you mean by that?"
"Is this not the Prophet's Walk?"
"It is." Kiralo frowned, unsure of the point.
"And you don't know how it got its name? May I enlighten you, Cs-Kiralo?"
Kiralo nodded, uncertainly.
"Once, four-hundred and forty years ago, the Emperor woke from a dream in which the Gods had seemed to say that even the smallest step echoes in the greatest act. Just as you can look at a single poorly minted coin and know that the treasury is corrupt, so too can one look at the small details of the Gods' creation and see truth. And so he thought to test this, to see if he could tell the future and know the virtue of people. So he created...look down."
Kiralo glanced at the tiles and saw that they were startlingly small. The size of his palm, most of them, and that was another thing. Their size and shape wasn't normal, instead each piece seemed subtly different.
"Each tile corresponded to a mystic word, and then he had servants and spirits watch." Hiro pointed to the multiple doors that were there. "And he had random servants dance upon them, or blindfolded a man and had him stumble. Time and again, and he watched and recorded, and it was said with great virtue and wisdom he could see the future. But then, the courtiers found and through corruption gained access to the book of auspicious signs and began to walk specifically to cover their lies and corruption, to make the Emperor think that the world was going well."
Hiro shook his head, "They hid news of a famine, and tried to cover up the depth of losses as Bueli stormed the borders. When the Emperor learned, in his fell and just wrath he executed his most prominent courtiers for treason, and had most of the tiles removed. He left this one small section as a sort of silent witness. He recovered, but it goes to show you what the Imperial Court is like. True prophecy and true religion are smothered in their graves, my father says, by crafty manipulation."
Kiralo blinked. "I did not know it."
"I knew it since I was eight. I asked my father for a story, because I wanted to hear about the Imperial Court. He told me that story, because it was what any man should know about the court. And so, why are you here?"
Kiralo frowned, uncertain and off-balance. "I am here to ask for your help. Think on this. If this war gets out of hand, the civil war...then the Empire will be deeply harmed. It will be weak, and prey to enemies from both within and without. There will be no time and energy for mounting an expedition, unless Hari-Nat uses its own limited resources."
"Could that not be just as great an argument for backing Prince Jinhai, if the goal was merely to end any civil conflict as fast as possible?"
Kiralo stiffened, stunned by the audacity. And Hiro did have a defense of sort. He'd put it as a question, and more importantly he was the son of a Governor. But putting such a question...there were people who had been executed for treason for saying less. And yet--
"I am arrogant, perhaps, in that I think that with your help I can win," Kiralo said. "But there is more than that. You say the court denies true religion. The Emperor is a good child, and will grow to be a divine ruler as his father was. Csirit had peace and prosperity these last twenty years, from what I know--"
"And it comes back to fathers," Hiro said, quietly.
"Perhaps it does and perhaps it does not." Kiralo hesitated and said, "Your father grieved greatly when you were thought dead. Even at court we heard of his sorrow. Go meet with the Emperor. Smile at him, know who he is, and then picture him dead. Poison in his tea, a childhood accident...perhaps he will be allowed to ride by his new regent, Prince Jinhai, and then he too will slip from the saddle. It is common," Kiralo said, "It is not just the court that attempts to influence the world through trickery. Prince Jinhai will devour that boy, gobble him up. Even now, we are trying to thwart his attempts to bring in outside mercenaries--"
"Like your own people?" Hiro asked.
Kiralo thought to the news. Down south, Kiralo's word meant something. Down south, he had sent as many messages as he could. In the Southlands, they had made real progress in stopping any attempts to hire mercenaries. Going that far north was already a dangerous occupation, so if one tried, and one bribed the right people...thus far it had been a success, and once the war started, hopefully the chaos would make any such attempt impossible.
"I am a Captain. Why should I not want to have my men near me?" Kiralo asked, "I mean no harm to the world--"
"There are those that would say that bringing even a single foreigner to our sacred lands is an affront to all that is good and right in the world."
Kiralo took a flying leap. Kiralo spoke. Perhaps the world changed in its own small way. "Are you one of them, Cs-Hiro?"
"I...am not."
"And neither am I. I want to support your journey back north, I want to support expeditions if that's what helps," Kiralo said, "And I want to protect the people of Csirit. But I am not my father, and that means that I must make my own way." Kiralo stepped forward, just slightly shorter than the other man, the space between them closing. "I must do what I can for the Empire. And Hari-Nat could save us. It could save the Empire. You have power here, even in this court you think is twisted. Your silence and your words are both a form of strength."
"There are many types of strength," Hiro said, softly. His lips twisted into a smile that oddly drew attention from his rough shave. "I...can tell my father what you have said."
"Tell him I am willing to listen to his ideas and thoughts, I am willing to listen to anyone. If he likes my father, then let him understand that I will not cast aside all of his policies merely because my feelings towards my father are mixed. I will judge them as best I can, on their own merits. And if he mislikes my father, allow him to also understand that--"
Hiro leaned in. "That you are different?"
"Yes," Kiralo said. "That I am different. And I don't doubt that you are too, in your ways."
Hiro paused, standing there, and for a moment Kiralo wondered what Hiro would do, because those intense eyes and features now seemed knit with a doubt that, if the stories were true, was positively un-Hiro-like.
"I will consider this. War will come, and standing aloof...might not be the best choice."
Hiro turned, and walked away. Kiralo watched him go, war plans changing in his head, shifting and altering.
Every moment the world changed, if you knew how to look.
*****
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Need: ???, Rolled: 1d100+13 (martial bonus applies)=100, 40
Need: ???, Rolled: 1d100+13 (martial bonus applies)=100, 40
A/N: So, I'm really, really sorry this took so long to get out.
I meant to post this last night, but I got distracted and then it was ten so I decided to wait until the morning.
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...Kiralo x Hiro OTP! OTP! OTP!
Erm. Heh. That story about the path is a nice touch, though, and appropriately cynical.
Erm. Heh. That story about the path is a nice touch, though, and appropriately cynical.
I think there's a similar RL myth going around. Can't remember the details, but the astrologers bore false prophecy to hide the building disaster and everything went to hell even as the emperor thought all was well.
Of course, the RL myth didn't quite allow a completely blind Son of Heaven.
But those who choose not to see...
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Though note, this inherently speaks of a belief in true prophecy. Which is good, because both Kiralo and Hiro believe that there can be such a thing as true prophecy.
Journey to the West had the following kinds of prophecies:
-Do X get Y prophecies
-X is going to happen if things continue
--Addendum, X is going to happen unless an overpowered monkey goes to the spirit world and manhandles elemental forces into doing what he says instead of what is predicted.
Mainly it blames failings of prophecy on the oracles being misinterpreted or missing some crucial factor.
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Well, there is meant to be some tension there, or at least the ghost of it, though Kiralo's way too focused on the political side of things.
Turn 7--Rumors
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Turn 7--Rumors
The Prince's Promises
After the complexities of the last few months, bad news arrives. Despite being thwarted in the Southlands (not that anyone knows of that yet) he has been successful in convincing a surprising number of Hirandian nobles to his side, and while he has not yet made the accusation, there is word that rumors are circulating that the Emperor is being misguided, and combined with Prince Jinhai's careful pandering to their interests…
His position seems only to be waxing stronger, after some time on the wane, and it has caused fear and comment among the courtiers. If this continues, could he win the war despite preparations? There are rumors that he's begun to gather his army, or at least encourage nobles and various other bands to start concentrating their forces.
A Sunny Day In Irit
As the rains stopped in Irit, a famous victory was won. At least according to the general that was sent with a portion of the army, a very small portion. Marching out, they have linked up with the Governor's forces, and burned down the castle of the most prominent of the traitor nobles, and routed the bandits of three different valleys. The forces of banditry and rebellion are now split in three.
There are rumors that some of the bandits are even fleeing Irit entirely, desperately aiming for Rerin and its forests, where there are many other of their kind.
Of course, what Kiralo knows is that if the bandits are fleeing, than so are the people. Bandits are not born of the stone and earth. The people were fleeing were peasants who feared they'd be put to the fire and the torch, for the fact that they had supported bandits. Bandits were among them, in the same way the soldiers were among the population of the Empire.
Slaughter and death lie beneath the pretty words of the general, fit for even a young boy to read. And yet, if putting down the chaos was what was best, no matter the cost in lives...then there is no doubt that they are one step closer to it. But will it be enough?
Bad Harvest
On the other hand, the grain harvests of Hirand and Csirit and in fact a very large part of the Empire as a whole have been very poor. It is too hot, too soon, and then it rains too much, and by and large the weather doesn't seem able to make up its mind. This has not yet led to starvation, but if this keeps up and a number of key harvests fail within the next three months…
Kiralo knows that starvation is a knife that will stab both sides. It will be proof of the misrule of the Empire, and yet it will also make it hard to gather soldiers for war on both sides. It will add complications--
And at the moment, Kuojah's wise stewardship of rice and reservation of some for troubled days in special containers to keep out all problems, and other means of passing along food to the needy provinces…
Well, it must be said that it is being managed so far, but that can last only so long.
On the other hand, Kiralo of Lineage Ainin now seems almost prophetic. If he had waited to begin hoarding grain even a few weeks later, he would have found the prices skyrocketing as both merchants and the populace of the city worry about a dwindling supply of food.
*****
A/N: It's short, I know.
The Prince's Promises
After the complexities of the last few months, bad news arrives. Despite being thwarted in the Southlands (not that anyone knows of that yet) he has been successful in convincing a surprising number of Hirandian nobles to his side, and while he has not yet made the accusation, there is word that rumors are circulating that the Emperor is being misguided, and combined with Prince Jinhai's careful pandering to their interests…
His position seems only to be waxing stronger, after some time on the wane, and it has caused fear and comment among the courtiers. If this continues, could he win the war despite preparations? There are rumors that he's begun to gather his army, or at least encourage nobles and various other bands to start concentrating their forces.
A Sunny Day In Irit
As the rains stopped in Irit, a famous victory was won. At least according to the general that was sent with a portion of the army, a very small portion. Marching out, they have linked up with the Governor's forces, and burned down the castle of the most prominent of the traitor nobles, and routed the bandits of three different valleys. The forces of banditry and rebellion are now split in three.
There are rumors that some of the bandits are even fleeing Irit entirely, desperately aiming for Rerin and its forests, where there are many other of their kind.
Of course, what Kiralo knows is that if the bandits are fleeing, than so are the people. Bandits are not born of the stone and earth. The people were fleeing were peasants who feared they'd be put to the fire and the torch, for the fact that they had supported bandits. Bandits were among them, in the same way the soldiers were among the population of the Empire.
Slaughter and death lie beneath the pretty words of the general, fit for even a young boy to read. And yet, if putting down the chaos was what was best, no matter the cost in lives...then there is no doubt that they are one step closer to it. But will it be enough?
Bad Harvest
On the other hand, the grain harvests of Hirand and Csirit and in fact a very large part of the Empire as a whole have been very poor. It is too hot, too soon, and then it rains too much, and by and large the weather doesn't seem able to make up its mind. This has not yet led to starvation, but if this keeps up and a number of key harvests fail within the next three months…
Kiralo knows that starvation is a knife that will stab both sides. It will be proof of the misrule of the Empire, and yet it will also make it hard to gather soldiers for war on both sides. It will add complications--
And at the moment, Kuojah's wise stewardship of rice and reservation of some for troubled days in special containers to keep out all problems, and other means of passing along food to the needy provinces…
Well, it must be said that it is being managed so far, but that can last only so long.
On the other hand, Kiralo of Lineage Ainin now seems almost prophetic. If he had waited to begin hoarding grain even a few weeks later, he would have found the prices skyrocketing as both merchants and the populace of the city worry about a dwindling supply of food.
*****
A/N: It's short, I know.
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OOC/IC: A Choice
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Now Comes A Choice
Timing is everything. As far as predictions go, Kiralo suspects that Prince Jinhai will begin acting or pass the point of no return sometime in the latter half of the month, or early next month. Meanwhile, Kiralo's Rassit are currently nearing Irit, and should be at court by mid-month at the latest.
Timing is thus everything, and so there are some choices.
[] Declare against Prince Jinhai at the start of the month, trying to get the drop on him. Push him into making an action where his only choice is treason or death. Instead of Turn 8, there will be a pre-War turn of sorts, focusing on prep-work, and then it'll move to War Turns. More on those later.
[] Wait for Prince Jinhai to act. Turn 8 proceeds as normally, though he might cut off or invalidate some of the options if he moves earlier than expected. If he does not, Turn 8 will shift, immediately afterwards, into a Turn 9 that is a War Turn.
Consider the possibilities carefully. Discuss pros and cons!
Timing is everything. As far as predictions go, Kiralo suspects that Prince Jinhai will begin acting or pass the point of no return sometime in the latter half of the month, or early next month. Meanwhile, Kiralo's Rassit are currently nearing Irit, and should be at court by mid-month at the latest.
Timing is thus everything, and so there are some choices.
[] Declare against Prince Jinhai at the start of the month, trying to get the drop on him. Push him into making an action where his only choice is treason or death. Instead of Turn 8, there will be a pre-War turn of sorts, focusing on prep-work, and then it'll move to War Turns. More on those later.
[] Wait for Prince Jinhai to act. Turn 8 proceeds as normally, though he might cut off or invalidate some of the options if he moves earlier than expected. If he does not, Turn 8 will shift, immediately afterwards, into a Turn 9 that is a War Turn.
Consider the possibilities carefully. Discuss pros and cons!
- Location
- Austria
Ffff.
We should have voted for importing wheat.
It wouldn't affect current famine too much, but said famine would have been beautiful advertising for diversifying crops.
Fuck.
- Location
- Germany
I think our position now is as good as it going to get. We have stockpiled rice, our Rassit are in Csirit and we have a whole bunch of mages on our side. AFAIR, most of the nobles that we have any chance of convincing support us by now. Meanwhile, Prince Jinhai is gathering power. I would prefer to kick off the war now, rather than letting Jinhai choose the time.
With a bit of luck, if we act quickly, we may even surprise Prince Jinhai with some of the forces we have gathered (like the mages).
There are probably a lot of factors that I am not properly considering, so I hope several other questers will comment. Still, for now:
[X] Declare against Prince Jinhai at the start of the month, trying to get the drop on him. Push him into making an action where his only choice is treason or death. Instead of Turn 8, there will be a pre-War turn of sorts, focusing on prep-work, and then it'll move to War Turns. More on those later.
With a bit of luck, if we act quickly, we may even surprise Prince Jinhai with some of the forces we have gathered (like the mages).
There are probably a lot of factors that I am not properly considering, so I hope several other questers will comment. Still, for now:
[X] Declare against Prince Jinhai at the start of the month, trying to get the drop on him. Push him into making an action where his only choice is treason or death. Instead of Turn 8, there will be a pre-War turn of sorts, focusing on prep-work, and then it'll move to War Turns. More on those later.