Behind the Serpent Throne (CK2)

Snakes is currently losing. I'll give it thirty minutes in case someone wants to tie it up again/making a fight of it. Then I'll close the vote, do the rolls, and go to bed.

Both plans are good, but it is a shame that the play isn't getting double-duty use...

Once the vote closes, I also want to reveal what the mystery box is for the Gold Display.
Well, since you were just talking about it...

I did plan to ask @Bakkasama if I could use his idea instead of mine if my plan won, with the consent of those who voted for my plan of course. I didn't want to look as if I was co-opting his idea while the vote was ongoing.
 
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Well, since you were just talking about it...

I did plan to ask @Bakkasama if I could use his idea instead of mine if mine's won, with the consent of those who voted for my plan of course. I didn't want to look as if I was co-opting his idea while the vote was ongoing.

Well, huh. I can hold off on that if the basics of the vote are the same. I mean, in terms of, like, what's being rolled on, if that makes sense.

Also, I'll just reveal it now.

Title: The Display of Gold
Dice Rolled: Stewardship or Diplomacy (See below)
Chance of Success: Variable; 60% for Patronage, 70% for play (though it's also higher status in certain ways), 75% for poetry
Time: 1 Turn
Text: Similar in granduer is the display of art, song, poetry, plays, and crafts of all kinds. Just as army service is silver, so is that which is more worthy of praise: great scholarship or accomplishment in a field that does not involve the murder of other human beings, is given to the Gold Display. Awards are given, futures are staked, and great patrons and great artists compete for each other's attention. (Please Specify one below, this can be taken multiple times if you really want!)
-[] Kiralo will try to find someone to act as a patron for. (Stewardship).
-[] There is no time left for a great play, but he could make a short play of hopefully exceptional quality, which captures something meaningful enough to gain comment.
-[] Kiralo could write some topical poems and share them in the hopes of sparking interest in his genius.
-[] ???: Mystery option.

What is the Mystery Action? Becoming a model. Whether for a statue of some kind or a painting, serving as an obvious model for some (hopefully good) work of art. It'd get you less art-cred, but it'd play on your Attractive trait (which unlocked it) and help in other areas to balance out the lack of personal achievement.

But yes, if you rolled well enough, you could have been posing as an ancient hero fighting some enemy and have everyone admire a statue of you in the process. :p
 
It's a really good idea, and there's no reason not to use it tho?
I did say I preferred my idea to when Bakkasama offered it to me and Veekie. Cue The Laurent being tickled by the play and, you know, no take backsies.

Anyway, looks like we'll be voting for what we'll present in the Gold Display (or the Emperor?) in a separate vote.
 

I mean, he's a reasonably polite, slightly foreign-seeming-but-not-too-much cavalry officer with a toned, athletic body, a winning smile, a pretty face, who is young, healthy, and oh by the way he also writes poetry in his spare time when he's not donating to charities.

I mean, I don't really see it. :V

I did say I preferred my idea to when Bakkasama offered it to me and Veekie. Cue The Laurent being tickled by the play and, you know, no take backsies.

Anyway, looks like we'll be voting for what we'll present in the Gold Display (or the Emperor?) in a separate vote.

I mean, do what you feel, you know? I can make anything work. I just thought the play idea was unexpected, but poems to the Emperor might work better.

One advantage, to come down on the other side: if the play fails, that makes it harder to pull off the Emperor gift, whereas if they are separate (play for the audience, poems for the Emperor), they aren't tied together.
 
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Alright, well if no one voting for Boung in Court and Family has any problem, switching what to gift the Emperor.
 
Oh shoot, I managed to miss this whole turn.
I do think Lucky Ceremonies didn't get enough consideration- having someone around who isn't as stiff is maybe more valuable to the Emperor than a gift. Not to say it likely makes sense to pick in stead of gift-giving, but I think it was high-value.
But it's also true that it's only the New Year's turn and more permanent things can be done on an ordinary turn, so I'm fine with this as well
 
I mean, do what you feel, you know? I can make anything work. I just thought the play idea was unexpected, but poems to the Emperor might work better.

One advantage, to come down on the other side: if the play fails, that makes it harder to pull off the Emperor gift, whereas if they are separate (play for the audience, poems for the Emperor), they aren't tied together.
On the other hand we have pretty good odds for the Play. Not so much for the Gift.
So linking the two uses our stronger roll to help the unknown roll.
 
Turn A--Results, Part 1
Turn A--Part 1

The Display in Green


The display was a complicated affair to organize, and yet all Kiralo had to was show up. He'd been far too busy lately to enjoy himself, and yet even this wasn't really about enjoyment, so much as it was about figuring out his next move. Kuojah himself had several different Imperial Mages on his staff, and the ear of the most powerful of them.

So in a way, Kiralo thought, as he jostled through the crowd, his bodyguards glaring at the bodyguards of other notable figures, he was here to search for someone whose loyalty he could buy. But it was more than that. It had been a long year, and this would be, on top of the explosions and powerful magic, the demonstration of select projects and advancements. And so the cream of society, and curious onlookers, swarmed into a vast building just beyond the palace city. There was in fact a gate around it, and it was an area of lesser sacred exclusion. Liminal, as it were, and so on top of the nobles and court officials, and the local servants, merchants and other figures were allowed to enter, on this day alone. And so there were three sets of galleries, from top to bottom.

Kiralo sat at the top, overlooking a huge platform.

The room was big, and there were a set of curtains at the back, over a hundred feet high, separating the rest of the circle, and the three tiers, and the stage itself, from the back area. It was an amazing building, if oddly functional, lacking many of the frills he had expected. There were of course lion and serpent statues at the main entrance which were as well-crafted as he'd expected, and of course the spirits guarding this place were quite impressive, including one that was a towering pillar of shifting stone, and could likely devastate any unprepared formation of soldiers if left unchecked.

The seat was padded, and he stretched slightly as he glanced down at the two lower galleries. The one below had hard wooden seats, and the people there were well-dressed merchants and the friends and loved ones of some of the Imperial Mages. And so here and there, a person dressed in what was clearly their best, but which was just as clearly not equal to this high ceremony, would be standing with their family. Fathers and daughters and cousins, widowed mothers in polite veils, trying not to be jostled as they waited to see their only son, all that they had, go out and--

Maybe Kiralo was projecting.

The red curtain began to move, and then from behind it came streaming smoke, thick and forming strange shapes in the air. Red eyes flashed within the smoke, and Kiralo knew that this was one of the more intelligent spirits as a dozen men robed in green stepped out. The oldest was in his forties, the youngest barely sixteen, nervous and holding the scrolls that held their first contributions.

For that was the art of the Mage, that differed from those who pleaded with or tried to control spirits. They bound them, in scrolls and symbols, and with them commanded and shaped their actions.

And so what burst from the scrolls was a chaotic rush of spirits. Not too many, or it'd be religiously prohibited, but still, each scroll held a menagerie, and those were only the spirits that could be seen as they burst out. Columns of flames, snakes made of teeth, the loud sound of a gong deafening the world to all but the display as the feeling of excitement bubbled over them, pulling their emotions with its power. Fiery spirits clashed with spirits of water, or stranger things, and explosions and lights rocked the stage as a thousand colors clashed and mixed. It was strangely like some kind of...gestalt. There was something controlled about it, and yet there was also chaos.

The flash occasionally of something unexpected, a face or a shape as more Mage stepped out. One spirit looked for a moment like a naked woman, and then like an eagle, and then it was a single noise, a sort of chime that shook the body down to the bones, and all of this in a moment. More Mages strode out, including the oldest, grey beards down to their feet, carrying huge scrolls that seemed more like the prelude to tomes, chanting out pieces of names or fake names to hide the real ones that were embedded in the scrolls.

And then the individual demonstrations began. The spirits gibbered and moved, crowding out the Mages, almost, moving as one, according to long-planned directions, fighting and clashing and showing off their prowess. Bodyguards shifted forward. It was unlikely, but there had once been an assassination attempt using the demonstration as a cover. A sudden gout of flame had lashed out and fried the third most powerful man in the court (weaker, at the time, actually, than the Emperor, who was surprisingly dominant) into cinders.

The Emperor had ordered the Mage Academy decimated, especially when it turned out that several figures involved had been high-level.

It had not happened again, but ever since precuations had been taken. It was all very impressive, and while some of it wasn't beyond him in a theoretical sense, a lot of it was outside his area of expertise. It would have taken weeks to look up the names and hunt down a lot of the spirits used, and it would have taken even longer to get used to them, to habituate them to his presence, since he didn't know the art of spirit-sealing.

The show got more wild as spirits lifted up weights and threw things around, and more and more Mages spilled out on the stage. First years were not allowed on, and second years only in rare instances, but there were now a few as young as fourteen or fifteen, and they all but shivered as they watched, looking into the crowd. The groundlings were the most numerous, and the display continued, though it did not build up into a big climax as expected.

Instead, no doubt to give the eyes a rest--and indeed, Kiralo's head ached with what he'd seen, the flashes of color and the strange sensations having all but driven his spirits wild--Mages began to step forward. Third, fourth years, fifth years and beyond, all of them eager to show off their research projects.

They spoke in loud voices and simplified the concepts, and if they could, they all seemed, sooner or later, to show it off in some direct way.

Sometimes even unrelated to what they were doing.

For instance, one that introduced himself as Hee-cae, who looked like he was probably a member of one of the minority groups from his accent, had done a project on examining the spirits that the farmers in a certain region used for their farming, to see if it could be adapted, but what he showed off were not so much the results, as a spirit of the scythe which he used to cut a table in half.

Others showed off mundane achievements, increases in mastery without any specific research, and one, who looked pure Csiritan but spoke in a moderately foreign accent, showed off his combat prowess, talking about how he had studied and planned to work with the army or as a bodyguard after he graduated. An interesting choice, and Ji'Le is certainly at least impressive when he leapt over the several guards he used as demonstrations and used the spirits and his skill with a sword to disarm five enemies without taking more than a single wound, and that mostly having glanced off his armor.

A young man, twenty-two or so, named Dingbae presented a rather interesting demonstration designed 'To learn about the enemy and their magic.' In this case, it was studies involving the tattoos that many in the far Southlands wore.

More and more came, and each had their own ideas or their accomplishments, some great and some small, and Kiralo wasn't the only person looking, judging.

Because he didn't need to see the grand finale, when some of the best Mages came to do practice duels and a spectacle or two. Not when he could perhaps talk to a few Mages, see just what they had to offer, and whether there was anything he could offer to them.

Who does Kiralo talk to? (Choose 2)

[] Dingbae's research of Southlander tattoos is interesting, or at least it might be, and while framed in an adversarial way, at the very least more knowledge could be used for other, rather less hostile, purposes.
[] Work on improving agriculture is very important, if sometimes boring. Hee-Cae could be talked about in this matter, and perhaps he'd have advice and ideas for local improvements. It wouldn't be an immediate gain, but setting up the seeds of larger reforms could be interesting. Though of course rural villagers are (quite reasonably) conservative, but there are always spirits that slip outside anyone's attention.
[] Ji'lae is a strong young man, and quite magically skilled. He could be talked with, to see if there's a network of Mages who might be interested in larger scale work. After all, if war comes, he'll need all the Mages he can get.
[] Tung, a short looking man in his early thirties, advertised a research project that had gotten its first round of experiments in looking at the way humans reacted to spirits when put in close proximity with more intelligence spirits. It was the sort of research that strayed dangerously close to the border between what is orthodox and what is not. In fact, he might have stepped over it, depending. That makes him dangerous...or interesting, take your pick.
[] Qiang is in his late twenties, but in other ways is older. A traditionalist, and apparently something of a philosopher, his works themselves weren't all that impressive when shown off, but what did catch Kiralo's attention was the mention of his loyalty to Kuojah. This could be a chance to gain a contact, after all.
[] Rather surprising was the entry from a third year student by the name of Hung, whose contribution was in some ways not magic at all. He had discovered a way to use spirits to track what he said was an illegal smuggling ring that dealt in spirit-haunted goods, which had apparently recently been busted, and so his research was in methods to find and track down such illicit dealings. Which was rather more than one usually expected to see out of a seventeen year old, honestly.

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A/N: I admit, I feel a bit blah right now. Eh, this was alright, I hope, but it definitely could have been better.
 
[X] Ji'lae is a strong young man, and quite magically skilled. He could be talked with, to see if there's a network of Mages who might be interested in larger scale work. After all, if war comes, he'll need all the Mages he can get.
[X] Qiang is in his late twenties, but in other ways is older. A traditionalist, and apparently something of a philosopher, his works themselves weren't all that impressive when shown off, but what did catch Kiralo's attention was the mention of his loyalty to Kuojah. This could be a chance to gain a contact, after all.
 
[] Dingbae's research of Southlander tattoos is interesting, or at least it might be, and while framed in an adversarial way, at the very least more knowledge could be used for other, rather less hostile, purposes.
While interesting, some people would obviously object to this.
[] Work on improving agriculture is very important, if sometimes boring. Hee-Cae could be talked about in this matter, and perhaps he'd have advice and ideas for local improvements. It wouldn't be an immediate gain, but setting up the seeds of larger reforms could be interesting. Though of course rural villagers are (quite reasonably) conservative, but there are always spirits that slip outside anyone's attention.
Better agriculture is always important, but not something we can implement or use soon.
[] Ji'lae is a strong young man, and quite magically skilled. He could be talked with, to see if there's a network of Mages who might be interested in larger scale work. After all, if war comes, he'll need all the Mages he can get.
I want this one!
[] Tung, a short looking man in his early thirties, advertised a research project that had gotten its first round of experiments in looking at the way humans reacted to spirits when put in close proximity with more intelligence spirits. It was the sort of research that strayed dangerously close to the border between what is orthodox and what is not. In fact, he might have stepped over it, depending. That makes him dangerous...or interesting, take your pick.
The high risk, potential high reward option. Let's not.
[] Qiang is in his late twenties, but in other ways is older. A traditionalist, and apparently something of a philosopher, his works themselves weren't all that impressive when shown off, but what did catch Kiralo's attention was the mention of his loyalty to Kuojah. This could be a chance to gain a contact, after all.
More of a politics than a magic option, which is not necessarily bad.
[] Rather surprising was the entry from a third year student by the name of Hung, whose contribution was in some ways not magic at all. He had discovered a way to use spirits to track what he said was an illegal smuggling ring that dealt in spirit-haunted goods, which had apparently recently been busted, and so his research was in methods to find and track down such illicit dealings. Which was rather more than one usually expected to see out of a seventeen year old, honestly.
That's useful and decreasing crime is always good, but unless the Prince deals with smugglers in these kind of goods, not something that would be useful in a war. Unless he finds some way to use this for military applications.

Actually, what are spirit-haunted goods? Are they illegal to everyone or are Mages allowed to use them?
 
While interesting, some people would obviously object to this.

Better agriculture is always important, but not something we can implement or use soon.

I want this one!

The high risk, potential high reward option. Let's not.

More of a politics than a magic option, which is not necessarily bad.

That's useful and decreasing crime is always good, but unless the Prince deals with smugglers in these kind of goods, not something that would be useful in a war. Unless he finds some way to use this for military applications.

Actually, what are spirit-haunted goods? Are they illegal to everyone or are Mages allowed to use them?

Not necessarily illicit at all. They're just objects that have had a spirit bound in them. This makes them, as one might imagine, useful.

Now, it's the means, the spirits, the lack of paying any taxes, and other factors that make it illicit.
 
[x] Ji'lae is a strong young man, and quite magically skilled. He could be talked with, to see if there's a network of Mages who might be interested in larger scale work. After all, if war comes, he'll need all the Mages he can get.

[x] Rather surprising was the entry from a third year student by the name of Hung, whose contribution was in some ways not magic at all. He had discovered a way to use spirits to track what he said was an illegal smuggling ring that dealt in spirit-haunted goods, which had apparently recently been busted, and so his research was in methods to find and track down such illicit dealings. Which was rather more than one usually expected to see out of a seventeen year old, honestly.

Isn't one of the empire's neighbours famous for binding spirits into objects to fight? It might also be posible for this to be used to track tattoos with spirits within, which might be useful if Jinhai is indeed looking into hiring Southland mercenaries.

Also, more mages for war and a skilled bodyguard.
 
A lot of intriguing choices here and I think that all of them could have a positive effect (provided we can secure the allegiances). In the end I choose two of them that I think will most likely assist in our current endevaurs instead of creating yet another area that needs our attention (like I suspect the agricultural one would do).

[X] Dingbae's research of Southlander tattoos is interesting, or at least it might be, and while framed in an adversarial way, at the very least more knowledge could be used for other, rather less hostile, purposes.

Probably one less useful options it is still something that I think fits our character, should hopefully synergise well with our other plans regarding the Southlands and is simply something i find personally interesting.-

[X] Rather surprising was the entry from a third year student by the name of Hung, whose contribution was in some ways not magic at all. He had discovered a way to use spirits to track what he said was an illegal smuggling ring that dealt in spirit-haunted goods, which had apparently recently been busted, and so his research was in methods to find and track down such illicit dealings. Which was rather more than one usually expected to see out of a seventeen year old, honestly.

Considering our social environment (full of plotting etc.) making a friend like that could be a nice advantage, especially since as the text says it is somewhat unusual to see such a young man going into that direction.
 
[X] Work on improving agriculture is very important, if sometimes boring. Hee-Cae could be talked about in this matter, and perhaps he'd have advice and ideas for local improvements. It wouldn't be an immediate gain, but setting up the seeds of larger reforms could be interesting. Though of course rural villagers are (quite reasonably) conservative, but there are always spirits that slip outside anyone's attention.
[X] Rather surprising was the entry from a third year student by the name of Hung, whose contribution was in some ways not magic at all. He had discovered a way to use spirits to track what he said was an illegal smuggling ring that dealt in spirit-haunted goods, which had apparently recently been busted, and so his research was in methods to find and track down such illicit dealings. Which was rather more than one usually expected to see out of a seventeen year old, honestly.

Runners-up: Ji'lae and Tung. Use of mages in war efforts isn't our point of comparative advantage, and will likely be done reasonably well by someone else, and though I'd love to know what Tung is up to it could potentially be used to damage our reputation while not having an obvious use.
 
[X] Work on improving agriculture is very important, if sometimes boring. Hee-Cae could be talked about in this matter, and perhaps he'd have advice and ideas for local improvements. It wouldn't be an immediate gain, but setting up the seeds of larger reforms could be interesting. Though of course rural villagers are (quite reasonably) conservative, but there are always spirits that slip outside anyone's attention.

[X] Rather surprising was the entry from a third year student by the name of Hung, whose contribution was in some ways not magic at all. He had discovered a way to use spirits to track what he said was an illegal smuggling ring that dealt in spirit-haunted goods, which had apparently recently been busted, and so his research was in methods to find and track down such illicit dealings. Which was rather more than one usually expected to see out of a seventeen year old, honestly.

Not the flashiest stuff I guess, but i like them.
 
Use of mages in war efforts isn't our point of comparative advantage,
War is our comparitive advantage though, so anything that feeds into that will help us overall. And besides, he gives us access to a faction, of young powerfl mages, and is willing to work as a bodyguard, which we probably need.
 
[X] Ji'lae is a strong young man, and quite magically skilled. He could be talked with, to see if there's a network of Mages who might be interested in larger scale work. After all, if war comes, he'll need all the Mages he can get.
[X] Qiang is in his late twenties, but in other ways is older. A traditionalist, and apparently something of a philosopher, his works themselves weren't all that impressive when shown off, but what did catch Kiralo's attention was the mention of his loyalty to Kuojah. This could be a chance to gain a contact, after all.
 
[X] Ji'lae is a strong young man, and quite magically skilled. He could be talked with, to see if there's a network of Mages who might be interested in larger scale work. After all, if war comes, he'll need all the Mages he can get.

[X] Rather surprising was the entry from a third year student by the name of Hung, whose contribution was in some ways not magic at all. He had discovered a way to use spirits to track what he said was an illegal smuggling ring that dealt in spirit-haunted goods, which had apparently recently been busted, and so his research was in methods to find and track down such illicit dealings. Which was rather more than one usually expected to see out of a seventeen year old, honestly.
 
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