I think showing them the head of the holy blade might go along way in getting them to reconsider
Anderson Quest: Killing Vampires and Werewolves and Leprechauns (Hellsing/Bloodborne)
- Thread starter Tricia
- Start date
- Location
- North of England
- Pronouns
- She/They
You're hoping that we'll be able to communicate with Rom the same way we did with Ebrietas, which might not be the case.
You're hoping that trying to communicate with Rom doesn't spook her and cause her to attack us, which it might.
Alternatively, you're hoping that we'll be able to take Ebrietas into the weird glowy lake to talk to Rom herself, which might not be the case, and even if we can do that you're assuming that Rom would approve of Ebrietas cavorting with humans and not react negatively to it, which she might not.
So while you hope for the best, I'll be over here in the sensible people's corner assuming the worst.
...why would we even need to meet, much less kill, Rom?
- Location
- Somewhere
[x] plan pedanterrific
As tempting as Vatican Lawn Darts/Neverdies's plan is, we can play that any time we want and there's LOTS more fun stuff ta' kill back in the nightmare. Let's ask em' what in the protestant hell they want (and why we were mentioned specifically) and maybe chat with Eileen and our budding little Iscariot Division before we decide how to progress.
All this talk of killing Rom and calling down the bloodmoon...
Why? Why would you do that to little MoEbrietas? Rom maybe be ugly, but she's better than an amygdala- or worse(?), Flora.
Hn. Thinking about it, did we ever explore the physical location of the Old Hunter's workshop? it might be interesting to see if the Doll can possess her physical incarnation. We know the thing's finger twitches of it's own accord already, and it might be nice to introduce Ebrietas to her.
Edit: As a sidenote, I am reminded of the fact that Oedon chapel is not exactly clear on all sides. It has the main entrance door, the side door out into the graveyard, the door to the elevator and the tower behind the chapel proper, and I think one more additional entrance after that. How are we covering all these access points? The turrets and the wards notwithstanding, that's a lot of points to watch and some are notably harder to cover than others.
As tempting as Vatican Lawn Darts/Neverdies's plan is, we can play that any time we want and there's LOTS more fun stuff ta' kill back in the nightmare. Let's ask em' what in the protestant hell they want (and why we were mentioned specifically) and maybe chat with Eileen and our budding little Iscariot Division before we decide how to progress.
All this talk of killing Rom and calling down the bloodmoon...
Why? Why would you do that to little MoEbrietas? Rom maybe be ugly, but she's better than an amygdala- or worse(?), Flora.
Hn. Thinking about it, did we ever explore the physical location of the Old Hunter's workshop? it might be interesting to see if the Doll can possess her physical incarnation. We know the thing's finger twitches of it's own accord already, and it might be nice to introduce Ebrietas to her.
Edit: As a sidenote, I am reminded of the fact that Oedon chapel is not exactly clear on all sides. It has the main entrance door, the side door out into the graveyard, the door to the elevator and the tower behind the chapel proper, and I think one more additional entrance after that. How are we covering all these access points? The turrets and the wards notwithstanding, that's a lot of points to watch and some are notably harder to cover than others.
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- Location
- North of England
- Pronouns
- She/They
We've already done a bunch of the totally optional stuff, the fact that we've met Ebrietas is testament to that. I was presuming that we'd continue on the same course of doing the totally optional stuff (because logically we would) which happens to include Rom.
Also because I personally happen to find the
Absolutely terrifying and repulsive. Now if the rest of the players disagree that she should die then I'll put up with it but still...
Not really. The Amgygdalae at least have proper heads (yes they look like horrible shrivelled brains but at least they look like the right body is attached to them), Rom's looks like something took her actual head away and replaced it with a random chunk of pumice with eyes haphazardly jammed in the holes.
NemiTheNen
Perpetual Phone Poster
[X] Make sure Djura is settled in, your friends have the Heathens under control for now so you have a few moments
[X] Say hi to the kids and reassure them
[X] Since you're stuck inside until you beat th' devil summoners outside you don't exactly have a place to bury the head
-[X] Put the head on a bed. It's disrespectful to put a corpse on the floor, or up your sleeve, if you have a choice
--[X]Also, The Godfather isn't Boondock saints, but it is pretty good
[X] Git yer arse up to the roof so you can shout down from on high
-[X] What The Bloody Protestant Hell Do You Want?
--[X] Have a 'civil' conversation if they have a good reason, like maybe they are desperate for your protection and are trying to fight their way in because of that.
--[X] Otherwise?
---[X] If Angels can bring holy justice from above, why can't you?
----[X] Also known as: Lawn Darts, Vatican Style.
[X] Say hi to the kids and reassure them
[X] Since you're stuck inside until you beat th' devil summoners outside you don't exactly have a place to bury the head
-[X] Put the head on a bed. It's disrespectful to put a corpse on the floor, or up your sleeve, if you have a choice
--[X]Also, The Godfather isn't Boondock saints, but it is pretty good
[X] Git yer arse up to the roof so you can shout down from on high
-[X] What The Bloody Protestant Hell Do You Want?
--[X] Have a 'civil' conversation if they have a good reason, like maybe they are desperate for your protection and are trying to fight their way in because of that.
--[X] Otherwise?
---[X] If Angels can bring holy justice from above, why can't you?
----[X] Also known as: Lawn Darts, Vatican Style.
SV5195R
C-Weapon
- Location
- Russian Federation
So, basically, you're judging a character based on appearance?
Yet part of the "optional stuff" is killing Ebrietas. And killing Vicar Amelia. And killing Djura and Steffon.
Anderson doesn't even know IC of Rom's existence, and if he is actively harming Yharnam's remaining survivors.
I mean, do you even know Rom's purpose? And if you do, then why the hell would you still want to kill it?
And Ebrietas is one unholy mass of tentacles and casually inflicts SAN loss, and accidentally gives people a stroke just by talking to them.
Rareitor
Aspiring K0mput0rmayun
Dude... do you seriously want to go kill the one being whose philosophy might as well be "smoke weed erryday" she so chill?
- Location
- North of England
- Pronouns
- She/They
Fine.
I was wrong, as always. I'll concede the point along with my dignity and self-esteem, as always.
I was wrong, as always. I'll concede the point along with my dignity and self-esteem, as always.
Orion Nexus
The Storm Soul
- Location
- South Carolina
[X] Make sure Djura is settled in, your friends have the Heathens under control for now so you have a few moments
[X] Say hi to the kids and reassure them
[X] Since you're stuck inside until you beat th' devil summoners outside you don't exactly have a place to bury the head
-[X] Put the head on a bed. It's disrespectful to put a corpse on the floor, or up your sleeve, if you have a choice
--[X]Also, The Godfather isn't Boondock saints, but it is pretty good
[X] Git yer arse up to the roof so you can shout down from on high
-[X] What The Bloody Protestant Hell Do You Want?
--[X] Have a 'civil' conversation if they have a good reason, like maybe they are desperate for your protection and are trying to fight their way in because of that.
--[X] Otherwise?
---[X] If Angels can bring holy justice from above, why can't you?
----[X] Also known as: Lawn Darts, Vatican Style.
[X] Say hi to the kids and reassure them
[X] Since you're stuck inside until you beat th' devil summoners outside you don't exactly have a place to bury the head
-[X] Put the head on a bed. It's disrespectful to put a corpse on the floor, or up your sleeve, if you have a choice
--[X]Also, The Godfather isn't Boondock saints, but it is pretty good
[X] Git yer arse up to the roof so you can shout down from on high
-[X] What The Bloody Protestant Hell Do You Want?
--[X] Have a 'civil' conversation if they have a good reason, like maybe they are desperate for your protection and are trying to fight their way in because of that.
--[X] Otherwise?
---[X] If Angels can bring holy justice from above, why can't you?
----[X] Also known as: Lawn Darts, Vatican Style.
- Location
- United States
[X] Have Ebrietas wait until she senses their location, and then have her toss you at them from the roof.
-[X] If Angels can bring holy justice from above, why can't you?
--[X] Also known as: Lawn Darts, Vatican Style.
-[X] If Angels can bring holy justice from above, why can't you?
--[X] Also known as: Lawn Darts, Vatican Style.
torrmercury
Necromancer
- Location
- Chicago
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] Make sure Djura is settled in, your friends have the Heathens under control for now so you have a few moments
[X] Say hi to the kids and reassure them
[X] Since you're stuck inside until you beat th' devil summoners outside you don't exactly have a place to bury the head
-[X] Put the head on a bed. It's disrespectful to put a corpse on the floor, or up your sleeve, if you have a choice
--[X]Also, The Godfather isn't Boondock saints, but it is pretty good
[X] Git yer arse up to the roof so you can shout down from on high
-[X] What The Bloody Protestant Hell Do You Want?
--[X] Have a 'civil' conversation if they have a good reason, like maybe they are desperate for your protection and are trying to fight their way in because of that.
--[X] Otherwise?
---[X] If Angels can bring holy justice from above, why can't you?
----[X] Also known as: Lawn Darts, Vatican Style.
[X] Say hi to the kids and reassure them
[X] Since you're stuck inside until you beat th' devil summoners outside you don't exactly have a place to bury the head
-[X] Put the head on a bed. It's disrespectful to put a corpse on the floor, or up your sleeve, if you have a choice
--[X]Also, The Godfather isn't Boondock saints, but it is pretty good
[X] Git yer arse up to the roof so you can shout down from on high
-[X] What The Bloody Protestant Hell Do You Want?
--[X] Have a 'civil' conversation if they have a good reason, like maybe they are desperate for your protection and are trying to fight their way in because of that.
--[X] Otherwise?
---[X] If Angels can bring holy justice from above, why can't you?
----[X] Also known as: Lawn Darts, Vatican Style.
[X] Make sure Djura is settled in, your friends have the Heathens under control for now so you have a few moments
[X] Say hi to the kids and reassure them
[X] Since you're stuck inside until you beat th' devil summoners outside you don't exactly have a place to bury the head
-[X] Put the head on a bed. It's disrespectful to put a corpse on the floor, or up your sleeve, if you have a choice
--[X]Also, The Godfather isn't Boondock saints, but it is pretty good
[X] Git yer arse up to the roof so you can shout down from on high
-[X] What The Bloody Protestant Hell Do You Want?
--[X] Have a 'civil' conversation if they have a good reason, like maybe they are desperate for your protection and are trying to fight their way in because of that.
--[X] Otherwise?
---[X] If Angels can bring holy justice from above, why can't you?
----[X] Also known as: Lawn Darts, Vatican Style.
[X] Say hi to the kids and reassure them
[X] Since you're stuck inside until you beat th' devil summoners outside you don't exactly have a place to bury the head
-[X] Put the head on a bed. It's disrespectful to put a corpse on the floor, or up your sleeve, if you have a choice
--[X]Also, The Godfather isn't Boondock saints, but it is pretty good
[X] Git yer arse up to the roof so you can shout down from on high
-[X] What The Bloody Protestant Hell Do You Want?
--[X] Have a 'civil' conversation if they have a good reason, like maybe they are desperate for your protection and are trying to fight their way in because of that.
--[X] Otherwise?
---[X] If Angels can bring holy justice from above, why can't you?
----[X] Also known as: Lawn Darts, Vatican Style.
- Location
- Aurora, Ontario
So, first off, none of this is accurate, unless I missed something in this quest.
Rom isn't a great one - it's stated pretty frequently that Rom was Made what it is and didn't start that way. So, there's very little reason for Ebrietas to get upset about us killing what is essentially a horribly mutilated human science project. Exactly Who Rom was before being 'granted eyes' is a matter of contention in the community, but there Was definitely a before, and Willem was almost certainly involved in turning a human being into a horrifying spider creature made largely of eyes.
Killing Rom Also does not cause the blood moon - Rom is actively Hiding it. The moon, the monsters, the crying eldritch baby? Those are all there with high enough insight. The blood moon has already risen, it's just that you need to be slightly more insane to see it while Rom affects the illusion of normalcy.
"The Byrgenwerth spider hides all manner of rituals, certain to reveal nothing, for true enlightenment need not be shared."
"As you once did for the vacuous Rom, grant us eyes, grant us eyes. Plant eyes on our brains, to cleanse our beastly idiocy."
"Provost Willem sought the Cord in order to elevate his being and thoughts to those of a Great One, by lining his brain with eyes. The only choice, he knew, if man were to ever match Their greatness."
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- Location
- North of England
- Pronouns
- She/They
Pillbug. With added tail and weird pumice head but still, Rom looks more a pillbug than she does any arachnid, not that it makes her any less creepy.
- Location
- Aurora, Ontario
Fair, though she's referred to as a spider several times.
Either way, Rom definitely isn't a peer of Ebrietas or even necessarily any more capable of her own motivations than Willem is in his current state. She's an experiment in ascension, a broken thing occluding the terrible insight that made it the misshapen beast it is from the rest of the world. Not an eldritch creature from the beyond which, upon death, changes the nature of the hunt. Rom is to be pitied at best, mercy-killed at worst.
Also, everyone who argues as to Rom's peacefulness might be on to something. She's called The Vacuous Spider for a reason and really seems more like a frightened child attempting to defend herself than like any of the other bosses. Gaining too much insight seems equally capable of making you crazy like Micolash or causing severe brain damage like Willem. Oddly enough, a brain lined with literal eyes isn't especially good at being a brain.
The only real great ones we encounter in game are Ebrietas, a stillborn infant (but that which is not dead may never die and all that), its wet nurse, the amygdalae, the moon presence, and Kos (the one the people in the fishing hamlet found and were dissected by Gehrman and Co for). Maybe The Frenzy Brain too, but we know nothing about it. Everything else is the product of humanity fucking around with forbidden knowledge.
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maguado87
Lord of All
[X] Make sure Djura is settled in, your friends have the Heathens under control for now so you have a few moments
[X] Say hi to the kids and reassure them
[X] Since you're stuck inside until you beat th' devil summoners outside you don't exactly have a place to bury the head
-[X] Put the head on a bed. It's disrespectful to put a corpse on the floor, or up your sleeve, if you have a choice
--[X]Also, The Godfather isn't Boondock saints, but it is pretty good
[X] Git yer arse up to the roof so you can shout down from on high
-[X] What The Bloody Protestant Hell Do You Want?
--[X] Have a 'civil' conversation if they have a good reason, like maybe they are desperate for your protection and are trying to fight their way in because of that.
--[X] Otherwise?
---[X] If Angels can bring holy justice from above, why can't you?
----[X] Also known as: Lawn Darts, Vatican Style.
[X] Say hi to the kids and reassure them
[X] Since you're stuck inside until you beat th' devil summoners outside you don't exactly have a place to bury the head
-[X] Put the head on a bed. It's disrespectful to put a corpse on the floor, or up your sleeve, if you have a choice
--[X]Also, The Godfather isn't Boondock saints, but it is pretty good
[X] Git yer arse up to the roof so you can shout down from on high
-[X] What The Bloody Protestant Hell Do You Want?
--[X] Have a 'civil' conversation if they have a good reason, like maybe they are desperate for your protection and are trying to fight their way in because of that.
--[X] Otherwise?
---[X] If Angels can bring holy justice from above, why can't you?
----[X] Also known as: Lawn Darts, Vatican Style.
noahgab1133
Fluffy?
[X] Make sure Djura is settled in, your friends have the Heathens under control for now so you have a few moments
[X] Say hi to the kids and reassure them
[X] Since you're stuck inside until you beat th' devil summoners outside you don't exactly have a place to bury the head
-[X] Put the head on a bed. It's disrespectful to put a corpse on the floor, or up your sleeve, if you have a choice
--[X]Also, The Godfather isn't Boondock saints, but it is pretty good
[X] Git yer arse up to the roof so you can shout down from on high
-[X] What The Bloody Protestant Hell Do You Want?
--[X] Have a 'civil' conversation if they have a good reason, like maybe they are desperate for your protection and are trying to fight their way in because of that.
--[X] Otherwise?
---[X] If Angels can bring holy justice from above, why can't you?
----[X] Also known as: Lawn Darts, Vatican Style.
[X] Say hi to the kids and reassure them
[X] Since you're stuck inside until you beat th' devil summoners outside you don't exactly have a place to bury the head
-[X] Put the head on a bed. It's disrespectful to put a corpse on the floor, or up your sleeve, if you have a choice
--[X]Also, The Godfather isn't Boondock saints, but it is pretty good
[X] Git yer arse up to the roof so you can shout down from on high
-[X] What The Bloody Protestant Hell Do You Want?
--[X] Have a 'civil' conversation if they have a good reason, like maybe they are desperate for your protection and are trying to fight their way in because of that.
--[X] Otherwise?
---[X] If Angels can bring holy justice from above, why can't you?
----[X] Also known as: Lawn Darts, Vatican Style.
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Found these while browsing Tumblr.
NemiTheNen
Perpetual Phone Poster
So, Rom looks like her head has been replaced by a piece of pumice with eyes stuck on.
Her name is vacuous. So, uh, what if her head HAS been replace resulting in her becoming vacuous?
Her name is vacuous. So, uh, what if her head HAS been replace resulting in her becoming vacuous?
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Her brain is pretty much on the outside, lined with eyes. She IS Kin after all.
- Location
- theworldbetween
[x] Plan silver
Let's get a conversation started with our rude neighbors before we gut them
Let's get a conversation started with our rude neighbors before we gut them
- Location
- Pittsburgh, PA
I think the issue here is that when Rom dies and all the bad shit she was hiding gets revealed, 80% of the survivors have their minds shatter like glass trying to process said bad shit, and the remainder get to live out a Victorian-era production of From Beyond. When dealing with hyperspatial bullshit, it's a good rule of thumb to assume that if you can see the monsters, then they can see you.
Also, if you've been following this quest, remember that friend Ebrietas used to have? The one who she was talked into trying to artificially uplift, but it went very, very wrong? I think that's Rom. If that's correct, killing the Vacuous Spider is less "destroying a broken science experiment", to paraphrase your subsequent post, and more "slaughtering the braindead remains of the first mortal friend she ever had, for no reason".
[X] Have Ebrietas wait until she senses their location, and then have her toss you at them from the roof.
-[X] If Angels can bring holy justice from above, why can't you?
--[X] Also known as: Lawn Darts, Vatican Style.
Yawn, too much talking at our enemies in the other plan, not enough stabbing.
-[X] If Angels can bring holy justice from above, why can't you?
--[X] Also known as: Lawn Darts, Vatican Style.
Yawn, too much talking at our enemies in the other plan, not enough stabbing.