Which would you prefer become Tyrian's Character Portrait?

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I'm not saying that he wanted his murder blender to be a magical murder blender. I'm also not saying that he didn't want that either. It just... worked out that way. Certainly has nothing to do with the "totally not a God" Emperor.
Let me restate something from one of the first choices of the quest, the Emperor saw "Potential" in you when he caught you trying to stab him.
 
I mean, fair. But do realize, Veteran Thunder Warriors, the ones that managed to survive Emperor's Battles and were around to be put down at the final one would likely be in the exact same scenario.

Really? Thought they capped out at decades when an Astartes can go for centuries. That and Thunder Warriors had Techno-Barbarians to war with so I thiiiink the overall quality of their foes was a bit lower and might affect their high end.

That being said, I'm also huge on 'experienced but physically worse fighter beats physically stronger one by applying experience and wisdom'.
 
Really? Thought they capped out at decades when an Astartes can go for centuries. That and Thunder Warriors had Techno-Barbarians to war with so I thiiiink the overall quality of their foes was a bit lower and might affect their high end.

That being said, I'm also huge on 'experienced but physically worse fighter beats physically stronger one by applying experience and wisdom'.
Caiaphus cain defeating an astartes in a dule agrees with you
 
I mean, any child who can sneak past Custodes has to be a literal freak of nature.
Hey, let's not be so hard on the Custodes. :p They were relaxing a bit after their glorious overlord had crushed another pitiful nation of barbarians. How were they supposed to know a child would try to sneak past them to attempt stabbing their master?:rofl:
 
Hey, let's not be so hard on the Custodes. :p They were relaxing a bit after their glorious overlord had crushed another pitiful nation of barbarians. How were they supposed to know a child would try to sneak past them to attempt stabbing their master?:rofl:
Not the Custodians fault that the Emperor told them to take a hike at the exact moment some brat snuck in.

"Santodes, on the fifth of April, at exactly 5:30 pm, patrol the outer perimeter of the war camp at all points but the Southwest."
"Of course, my Emperor. But, why though?"
"Secret"
 
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Not the Custodians fault that the Emperor told them to take a hike at the exact moment some brat snuck in.

"Santodes, on the fifth of April, at exactly 5:30 pm, patrol the outer perimeter of the war camp at all points but the Southwest."
"Of course, my Emperor. Though, why?"
"Secret"
Pffft! :lol

That is absolutely hilarious, but not really how it happened.

Edit* Night everybody, see you tomorrow.
 
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Really? Thought they capped out at decades when an Astartes can go for centuries. That and Thunder Warriors had Techno-Barbarians to war with so I thiiiink the overall quality of their foes was a bit lower and might affect their high end.

That being said, I'm also huge on 'experienced but physically worse fighter beats physically stronger one by applying experience and wisdom'.

I believe in canon there are some thunder warriors who survive until the heresy despite suffering from a badly degenerated biology. Even then one of these half dead, degenerated thunder warriors manages to kill a fair few top shape Astartes without getting killed in the process.
 
The Thunder Warriors are closer to Custodes than Astartes in base talent, but are a lot less stable than either except the one in a billion genetic match you may find.
 
A Sergeant's Babysitting Duty
You, are Ahzek Ahriman. Brother to Ahzek Orhmuzd and newly promoted Astartes Sergeant of the Fifteenth Crusade Legion. And you are currently running very thin on patience.

"I'm telling you it's much more efficient to just use bolters with a force this size you blind fool! We don't have the industrial capacity to support your obsession with volkite weapons in the future in the numbers we would need once our Primarch has been found. It is sturdy enough and easily produced in enough quantity as to ensure all of the Legion Astartes are armed for battle!" Declared a rather irate new recruit, having just freshly been recruited not even five months ago and now feuding with another of your generation. You hadn't even learned his name yet.

"And I'm telling you, you snot nosed runt that if we go along with your plan then we lose out on the killing power and logistical utility of volkite weaponry. Bolter weapons have physical ammunition boy, which means more space that needs to be taken up by magazines where you just need to recharge the batteries of volkite magazines!" Solomon Tumadi answered testily, he was a rather solid example of a soldier and had proven a rather reliable comrade. Being of your generation and having time to synchronize with everyone else.

The two of them had been having the exact same argument for the last couple of days during either off time or between lulls of combat. The recruit claiming that bolters were simply more practical in the long stretch of the Crusade while Solomon on the other hand insisted that volkite weaponry could go the distances so long as proper industrial necessities were put in place to maintain their mass production.

You on the other hand in the frank words of the Imperial Army, "Could not give a ratling's ass" about this idiotic conversation. Your free time spent either sharpening your combat skills with your brother, ensuring the fleet logistics train remained stable by helping Aventus, or seeing whether or not you could find where the Legion Master made his abode.

He had apparently taken great pains to ensure no one in the fleet knew where he rested in his off time (as small as that was) for the reason of in his own words, "To keep you Terra-forsaken heathens away from my only sanctuary against your annoyances, you are Astartes, so stop acting like children I need to pick up after."

Needless to say all past attempts to find his bolt hole had ended in failure, you yourself only searched for it as the idea of an area completely isolated from the rest of the Legion's idiocies sounded too enticing to pass up. Consequences of disturbing the Legion Master be damned.

"You're as blind as a you are ancient you old fogey!" "I'll give you something to scream about you little brat!"

Ugghh. You let your face rest in the palm of your hand, as the two idiots continued their argument.

"Legion Master on Deck!" Came a startled cry from one of the Astartes formerly forming a ring around the two troublemakers, before everyone including yourself rushed to form ranks as the Legion Master, Tyrian, walked into the barracks.

Taller than any other marine that you had seen, he towered over everyone in the barracks, astartes included. With an expression that screamed long suffering annoyance he merely asked as to the nature of the argument.

"Now, what is it that has gotten you lot so ruffled this time?"

The recruit is the first to answer. "W-well Legion Master this old fool insists that hold onto the idea volkite weaponry is sustainable as a mainstay weapon of Legionary Forces into the future."

The Legion master gives him a long stare before turning to Solomon. "And you?"

Solomon sheepishly shuffles a few times before answering. "This brat seems to think that replacing the logistically miraculous weaponry that is volkite with those ammo hogs that he calls bolters is an excellent idea, Legion Master."

The Legion Master gives them both a very long, hard, stare before answering.

[] He sides with the older Legionary, emphasizing that volkite weaponry is indeed the more logistically beneficial, before having both Legionary's scrub the inside of the ships waste filter for the rest of the trip.
[] He sides with the newer Legionary, agreeing that the Imperium simply doesn't have the industrial capacity to maintain volkites as a mainstay weapon for the legions, before immediately having them begin cleaning the waste filter.
[]Write in? - They're still cleaning the waste filter as punishment either way.

With that settled, the Legion Master went on his way to review other portions of the ship and its crew. Especially considering the utter embarrassment this section of the Legion had just been party to.

A few minutes of silence take place after the departure of the commanding Astartes, before it is immediately broken by a new infantile argument that you don't care enough to pay attention to.

*Groan* You bet Ohrmuzd doesn't have to tolerate this when he works with the Mechanicus adepts.
 
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[X] He sides with the older Legionary, emphasizing that volkite weaponry is indeed the more logistically beneficial, before having both Legionary's scrub the inside of the ships waste filter for the rest of the trip.

I'll take this, the extra killing power versus our main foe (Ork hordes) is worth it. The logistical issues won't be an issue Incase the flesh change fucks us. If we get large enough to have logistical issues? Well that means we did something right.
 
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[X] He sides with the older Legionary, emphasizing that volkite weaponry is indeed the more logistically beneficial, before having both Legionary's scrub the inside of the ships waste filter for the rest of the trip.

I'll take this, the extra killing power versus our main foe (Ork hordes) is worth it. The logistical issues won't be an issue Incase the flesh change fucks us.
This has more to do with explaining how Tyrian handles disputes inside the Legion than anything else, though there will be a small bonus to whichever weaponry wins the argument, if either actually wins.
 
Is saying that volkites for certified marines then bolsters for the rest a valid write in?
Essentially cut the logistical cost of volkites by giving them to fewer people.
 
[x] Volkite weapons are useful against organic enemies and lightly armed. Making hoards of lightly armored enemies. Bolter weapons are a good weapon and put less strain of logistics and industrial capacity. Which is why we will bolter and keep one the Volkite changing load out based on battlefield condition. Also you are both cleaning this section of the ship. Because instead of writing a report or coming to the legion command you decide to argue like children and not act like the Space Marines you are.

Going with this for now .
 
@Tinkerer Will this choice have a consequence on the composition of our armory?

If so, I was wondering if we could use this choice to maybe preserve the volkite weaponry we currently have for later when shit really hits the fan as we know canonically that volkite weaponry does indeed become more rare due to how hard it is to manufacture.

Also, I am wondering if we can use a write in that potentially pleases both of them by side-stepping the logistical argument, by siding with neither and saying that a bolter would be more effective as it can use special issue ammunition like the Kraken Rounds, assuming they exist, while also assuring the other Legionary that volkite weaponry certainly has its place and thus should be reserved.
 
[X] Write In: Both of you are making valid points. While Bolters are cheaper, they have a logistics issue. The exact opposite is true for Volkites. A middle ground can be found. While Bolters can become standard, Volkites should be retained for elites.
 
[X] He sides with the older Legionary, emphasizing that volkite weaponry is indeed the more logistically beneficial, before having both Legionary's scrub the inside of the ships waste filter for the rest of the trip.

Because Volkites are cool
 
@Tinkerer Will this choice have a consequence on the composition of our armory?

If so, I was wondering if we could use this choice to maybe preserve the volkite weaponry we currently have for later when shit really hits the fan as we know canonically that volkite weaponry does indeed become more rare due to how hard it is to manufacture.

Also, I am wondering if we can use a write in that potentially pleases both of them by side-stepping the logistical argument, by siding with neither and saying that a bolter would be more effective as it can use special issue ammunition like the Kraken Rounds, assuming they exist, while also assuring the other Legionary that volkite weaponry certainly has its place and thus should be reserved.
Depending on what exactly you guys vote for will determine whether an effort to maintain a supply of Volkite weapons in your Legions armory is made as time goes on.

But go for whatever you think will work.
 
[X] You both have good points, volkites truly are unfeasible to maintain across the whole legion due to their cost and complexity of maintenance/production. However, bolters do have logistics problem due to their use of solid ammo and lack the sheer killing powers of a volkite. It would be more pragmatic to equip all new battle brothers ie the majority with bolter weapons and all veterans and sergeants/commanders with volkite weapons thus maintaining a sustainable amount of volkite weapons without running into cost troubles. Also best to have more than one way to kill the enemy as volkites are not a one weapon fit all anyways.
-[X] Also both of you are now assigned together from now on in all duties, first duty being to cleaning every waste filter in the ship with a scrub till we enter combat again.
 
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Yeah going to have to go Volkites. There are three main threats to the Great Crusade.

1. The fucking Ur Barbarian, loves lightly armored hordes. Apply Volkite to the fuckers.
2. Chaos, also loves hordes of cultists (xenos or human).
3. The Ragdan, some sort of bio monsters. Apply Volkite to the unclean.

Volkites serve well enough against our main threats.
 
Hmm. Volkite weaponry is superior, and could maybe be used widespread if only for the Legion, but it depends on certain factors.

How large is the XVth right now @Tinkerer ?
 
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