Which would you prefer become Tyrian's Character Portrait?

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In this universe the Astartes project was less of a slapdash effort with leftover geneseed from the Primarch Project and more of a passion project for the Emperor. It actually predates the Primarchs in this universe. As such a lot more thought and effort was put into it, though it did only commenced production after the Primarchs went missing. As such the first 5000 have a lot more going on "under the hood" as it were. Though this did stop becoming a feature as mass production made Astartes less of an artisan project.

Does this mean the Primarchs/Custodes might have more going on with them as well?

Tyrian has the "privilege" of being one out of five people in the entire Imperium outside the Custodes to still remember -REDACTED-.

Well, Emperor loves us. Remembering Redacted as redacted sucks. And how's our relationship with Malcador?
 
[X] Overseeing the new batch of Astartes recruit's integration into the rest of the Legion. There appeared to be some clashes between the two generations over proper procedure.
 
Does this mean the Primarchs/Custodes might have more going on with them as well?
Somewhat, nothing outside basic smoothing of rough edges on the Custodes, and the Primarchs were basically left unchanged after completion.

Well, Emperor loves us. Remembering Redacted as redacted sucks. And how's our relationship with Malcador?
Malcador and Tyrian consider themselves peers and equally responsible in making sure Emp's vision comes true. They have also taken turns babysitting the Emperor when he has his scientific fugues and just tinkers with stuff.
 
Somewhat, nothing outside basic smoothing of rough edges on the Custodes, and the Primarchs were basically left unchanged after completion.

Fixes basic issues with Custodes? Example please?

Malcador and Tyrian consider themselves peers and equally responsible in making sure Emp's vision comes true. They have also taken turns babysitting the Emperor when he has his scientific fugues and just tinkers with stuff

That's actually quite the accomplishment, Malcador and us consider each other Peers. Does this mean we helped with making the Assassins and may potentially help with the Grey Knights?

Edit: Also, during the Crusade stuff can we do what another quest is kinda doing and help establish stuff to make Imperium Governance easier and Information network stuff?
 
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Fixes basic issues with Custodes? Example please?
The rejection rate for Custodes has been reduced by half.



That's actually quite the accomplishment, Malcador and us consider each other Peers. Does this mean we helped with making the Assassins and may potentially help with the Grey Knights?
Tyrian handled making sure trainees accomplished the training regimens Malcador came up with.
 
The latter is something we can't exactly know until it happens.

Well, fair. I mean, true. Don't really know how to respond beyond that.

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The rejection rate for Custodes has been reduced by half.

Wow. That's quite the accomplishment, honestly.

Tyrian handled making sure trainees accomplished the training regimens Malcador came up with.

Cool.
 
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Edit: Also, during the Crusade stuff can we do what another quest is kinda doing and help establish stuff to make Imperium Governance easier and Information network stuff?
With the inquisition we could make a cxore tenant that no one is abopve suspicion especially not the nobility (IC Most of the subtler Chaos cults are from the nobility)
 
With the inquisition we could make a cxore tenant that no one is abopve suspicion especially not the nobility (IC Most of the subtler Chaos cults are from the nobility)

I mean, Inquisition wasn't an original thing thought of for the Imperium but yeah? I was mainly thinking of helping put in place systems to ensure post-heresy the Imperium runs better.
 
I mean, Inquisition wasn't an original thing thought of for the Imperium but yeah? I was mainly thinking of helping put in place systems to ensure post-heresy the Imperium runs better.
Thats more a guilliman thing and speaking of we could probably tell him why splitting the legions is bad and to go the RH route of No astartes may directly command mortal forces in great numbers or at least larger chapter sizes
 
For all you guys keep in mind that Tyrian really doesn't have the temperament for government or things like that. He's not an idiot but he also wouldn't be the best fit for putting together a bureaucracy to support a galaxy spanning empire.

As for Primarch's responding to Tyrian's title, I've already commented in the past that it will make several Primarchs suspicious/paranoid about him.
 
Showing weakness is dangerous, but we cannot blame the reluctance; for brother killing brother is a burden no one must experience.
Russ not killing fucking Horus is the reason the Emperor is crippled. I reserve all my antipathy for his weakness.

Edit: Also, during the Crusade stuff can we do what another quest is kinda doing and help establish stuff to make Imperium Governance easier and Information network stuff?
Unless Tyrian's bumming around on Terra for some blasted reason, i really don't see why he should be making policy decisions except for the planets under the Legion's control.
The rejection rate for Custodes has been reduced by half.
That's absolutely fantastic. Won't get so many kids killed trying to fill out the ranks and will be easier to recoup losses.

With the inquisition we could make a cxore tenant that no one is abopve suspicion especially not the nobility (IC Most of the subtler Chaos cults are from the nobility)
The Inquisition already deals with the nobility as needed.

I mean, Inquisition wasn't an original thing thought of for the Imperium but yeah? I was mainly thinking of helping put in place systems to ensure post-heresy the Imperium runs better.
Assuming the character survives the Heresy?

Thats more a guilliman thing and speaking of we could probably tell him why splitting the legions is bad and to go the RH route of No astartes may directly command mortal forces in great numbers or at least larger chapter sizes
Look, i don't like Rawbut, but that doesn't mean his separation of powers didn't have a good reason behind it. It doesn't matter if Space Marines aren't commanding mortals, a sufficient number of them can wipe out any mundane opposition. Numbers that Legions possess.
 
Thats more a guilliman thing and speaking of we could probably tell him why splitting the legions is bad and to go the RH route of No astartes may directly command mortal forces in great numbers or at least larger chapter sizes

I mean fair.

For all you guys keep in mind that Tyrian really doesn't have the temperament for government or things like that. He's not an idiot but he also wouldn't be the best fit for putting together a bureaucracy to support a galaxy spanning empire.

As for Primarch's responding to Tyrian's title, I've already commented in the past that it will make several Primarchs suspicious/paranoid about him.

I'm not saying he needs to try to put that together, but speaking with Malcador or Emperor, or even Magnus once we find them and mention that integration would be smoother if we had a person sitting down to work on putting this in place. Also, pretty sure we overall as a Quest do at least plan on ensuring our people have PDF forces and Auxila put in place on planets with them being somewhat uplifted. Also, currently as Legion Master we kinda work with the Astartes in our council to somewhat control the planets we bring into compliance.

Unless Tyrian's bumming around on Terra for some blasted reason, i really don't see why he should be making policy decisions except for the planets under the Legion's control.

I mean, speaking about our planets we kinda control. I mean it's cool to just sit back and let them do whatever, but I figure at least putting some type of work into ensuring they're useful and productive would be cool. That said, OP did kinda bring up he doesn't exactly have the temperance which is fair.

Assuming the character survives the Heresy?

I mean, obviously our Character will survive the Heresy :V No but for real, it'll be interesting to see how it goes down this time around and how our actions now will impact the fate of the Thousand Sons.
 
To explain a bit of the complexities between Emps and Tyrian, as well as his view of Emps as a flawed man. The Emperor uses Tyrian's mind as a dumping ground for tons of secrets and research notes, including a lot of the traumatic shit he's ordered carried out by Tyrian.

This only works because Tyrian's willpower is frankly goddamn bullshit, as anyone else even Malcador knowing all of this would drive them insane.
 
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To explain a bit of the complexities between Emps and Tyrian, as well his view of Emps as a flawed man. The Emperor uses Tyrian's mind as a dumping ground for tons of secrets and research notes, including a lot of the traumatic shit he's ordered carried out by Tyrian.

This only works because Tyrian's willpower is frankly goddamn bullshit, as anyone else even Malcador knowing all of this would drive them insane.

Well... uh... Shit. Seems like we have a lot of knowledge locked in our head, too bad we don't actually know what that is. Also, Magnus/Chaos Gods can't breach our Psychic Shield and get that information right?
 
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