Ancient Legos [Worm/Stargate]

It's canon that Alexandria didn't know. That's how she died.
You keep making me doubt myself… Anyway, I looked at her death scene and she pointed out how common trying to drown her is as a tactic by a variety of people, specifically several thinkers. Again, it is not directly confirmed, but I have a feeling you would notice your need for air over decades of people trying to drown you. Not really something where I see debating it as productive, though, so I'll leave it at that.
 
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Also, part of me wonders if what Shipyard is wearing at the moment is considered a load out of a Security Officer, then what in the world would the Alterans consider a Soldier loud out and will we get to see it?
Shirtsleeves and tie, since even Alterans aren't stupid enough to send actual people onto the battlefield dominated by drones and large-scale rearrangement of geography. Security personnel dealing with the drunk and disorderly see more combat up-and-close than the people hired to do the wholesale killing.
 
If his ship almost get destroyed fighting ZiZ ,then how he plan to kill Ziz creator?
 
If his ship almost get destroyed fighting ZiZ ,then how he plan to kill Ziz creator?
Easy. Because of Genetic Manipulator, he's around 80% mark to Ascension. And with no other Ascended beings in his metaverse (All of TCGM's fics are happening in same multiverse of multiverses), there's literally no-one to stop him when he'll inevitebly go full Ascended on Scion's ass. In WoG, only thing that will be problem will be finding all Scions bits, and that's only problem because it takes some time.
 
You keep making me doubt myself… Anyway, I looked at her death scene and she pointed out how common trying to drown her is as a tactic by a variety of people. Again, it is not directly confirmed, but I have a feeling you would notice your need for air over decades of people trying to drown you. Not really something where I see debating it as productive, though, so I'll leave it at that.

On one hand, I would agree but on the other, you have to recall something important. If GG hits like a truck then Alexandria hits 900 tone truck, powered by a compressed truck and ignores friction.

When you are so stupidly strong that only endbringers can hold you still long enough to block your ability to breathe then it becomes easy to forget that it is a massive weakness. Also, add to that, she most likely deals primarily with brutes of annoying strength. Blocking her airway wouldn't be the first thought in their heads.

Which is why Bug Taylor is *censored* dangerous.
  • Normal Bug User
    Bah, useless power, just gather a large number and make them eat the target.
  • Taylor as a Bug User
    Blind with a swarm, send bugs towards eyes and soft tissue. Make them bite simultaneously for sudden massive and very painful damage. Send in the spiders for the nose and mouth and weave webbing. Have poison and biters crawl into any open they can get into and bit there as well.

Plus a lot of other things I would have never even thought about. Now that I think about it. They may be a key thing with the queen of escalation. If it is an option, I hope you weren't the one to spark the idea for it to be used against you.
 
On one hand, I would agree but on the other, you have to recall something important. If GG hits like a truck then Alexandria hits 900 tone truck, powered by a compressed truck and ignores friction.

When you are so stupidly strong that only endbringers can hold you still long enough to block your ability to breathe then it becomes easy to forget that it is a massive weakness. Also, add to that, she most likely deals primarily with brutes of annoying strength. Blocking her airway wouldn't be the first thought in their heads.

Which is why Bug Taylor is *censored* dangerous.
  • Normal Bug User
    Bah, useless power, just gather a large number and make them eat the target.
  • Taylor as a Bug User
    Blind with a swarm, send bugs towards eyes and soft tissue. Make them bite simultaneously for sudden massive and very painful damage. Send in the spiders for the nose and mouth and weave webbing. Have poison and biters crawl into any open they can get into and bit there as well.

Plus a lot of other things I would have never even thought about. Now that I think about it. They may be a key thing with the queen of escalation. If it is an option, I hope you weren't the one to spark the idea for it to be used against you.
The thing is she never thought Skitter would actually try to kill her and her thinker power failed her.
 
I am seriously impressed at how accurately you have depicted the Alteran inability to give a shit about anything even remotely resembling common sense and restraint.

This is the species that built multiple devices capable of literally destroying entire galaxies and just left them lying around for anyone to fuck with, after all.

An accurate summary of the Alterans as a people:



I am personally of the opinion that the driving force behind their noninterference policy was because they didn't want to take responsibility for their extensive and repeated fuckups: They started fucking up with the whole Ori debacle and never stopped.
 
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Sees a crapton of discussion on Nilbog's tinkery-ness...

Okay, I'm gonna weigh in here. Nilbog may or may not have been a full blown Biotinker in canon (my headcanon is that yes, he was, but more of the instinctual type versus blueprints). Bioshaker with Tinkery aspects, possibly. That doesn't change the designation for engineered organisms or the label the engineer ends up getting, which is Biotinker Tech and Biotinker. Regardless of his actual power, he is capable of creating organisms, that makes him a Biotinker under PRT threat assessment.

And yes, the PRT is going to have a brick shitting contest. Shipyard versus Nilbog possibly contaminating states, who wins? Place your bets on the height of the brick pile now peeps!
Wait, Nilbog did make the plague? I thought it was something Coil/Calvert hit her with (pretty sure he was doing something similar in canon anyways with the regularity it pops up in fics) I feel like that's more likely than people who are specifically supposed to notice bio-plagues not noticing the bio-plague (either from when she just got back from Nilbog or anytime after during a PRT physical). Plus it would be suitably ironic if this is how Calvert is caught, taken in for a physical only to be discovered as a parahuman instead because of his own plan.
 
Wait, Nilbog did make the plague? I thought it was something Coil/Calvert hit her with (pretty sure he was doing something similar in canon anyways with the regularity it pops up in fics) I feel like that's more likely than people who are specifically supposed to notice bio-plagues not noticing the bio-plague (either from when she just got back from Nilbog or anytime after during a PRT physical). Plus it would be suitably ironic if this is how Calvert is caught, taken in for a physical only to be discovered as a parahuman instead because of his own plan.
Well, Nilbog may have made it but how did it make its way across half the country and hit only one very specific person that since the end of her involvement with the Ellisburg assault has no relation to Nilbog or his domain? It may be that ALL Ellisburg survivors are infected. If not who infected her and why her specifically? What was the infection vector? Is it contagious?
 
Well, Nilbog may have made it but how did it make its way across half the country and hit only one very specific person that since the end of her involvement with the Ellisburg assault has no relation to Nilbog or his domain? It may be that ALL Ellisburg survivors are infected. If not who infected her and why her specifically? What was the infection vector? Is it contagious?
It was there all along, hiding, dormant, or doing exactly what it was supposed to do.
After all, depending on how that particular virus interacted with its host (it is of parahuman origin after all), it could have allowed Nilbog to see or even command the host through it without their knowledge.
 
It was there all along, hiding, dormant, or doing exactly what it was supposed to do.
After all, depending on how that particular virus interacted with its host (it is of parahuman origin after all), it could have allowed Nilbog to see or even command the host through it without their knowledge.
Even if it was there all along, why only her? She was not in any particular important position during that time, just another trooper. During the time the infection would have occured in your scenario she is not a worthwhile target. At best she was a target of opportunity. But more likely ALL of the Ellisburg survivors are similarly infected.
 
Even if it was there all along, why only her?
Who said it's only her?
Shipyard had only the chance to detect it after he attempted to heal her (Piggot) with his Alteran powers. He had no contact with anyone else from Elisburg till now.
And chances are high that if it was in Piggot, its also in everyone else who was there and unprotected during the initial outbreak, or received a wound from Nilbog's monsters- depending on the vector he used.
 
Who said it's only her?
Shipyard had only the chance to detect it after he attempted to heal her (Piggot) with his Alteran powers. He had no contact with anyone else from Elisburg till now.
And chances are high that if it was in Piggot, its also in everyone else who was there and unprotected during the initial outbreak, or received a wound from Nilbog's monsters- depending on the vector he used.
That was my point. Right now everyone should be scambling to find out how big a disaster they are dealing with, how much of the government and its various instruments are compromised and starting on damage control.
 
I'm sure they can find it in them to deal with it... once they fix the damage done to the building after Dragon appeared... and still discuss the eh... angelic issue.

Again I raised the issue of Nilbogs pets due to its implications down the line, and a possible hard to solve problem, not so that everyone should drop what they are doing ,and ignore the much more pressing issues that are yet to be resolved in that very moment.
 
Soooo...
One little issue. I don't recall Weldon doing anything about Tattletale's potential brain tumor problem...? She was placed in a medbay, but are we to merely assume it was started? I do hope he can get their powers to reactivate (and perhaps behave themselves better) in the future.
And what's with his own power (extra-universal SI or no) that made it benign even when cut off? For that matter, just how and why is it eating the local solar system?

Also, given that constructors have been spotted around the city, are these the ones that work properly and fix things, or are they going to be a new problem and start uncontrollably replicating? Either way, let's hope Coil's base gets disassembled around his ears. He'd deserve it, especially if any of the governing AIs know who took that shot. :p

Also also, how is Piggot going to react when she finds out that he has several tiers of self-replicating devices, from the ultimate Tinker worry of nanites up to the aforementioned constructors? Or for that matter, Coil, since he was also a Nilbog survivor? Perhaps when he mentions just how many times the Alterans screwed up with some variant of grey goo...?

I see he's doing a very, very effective job at collecting all the potential interests. Love icosahedron, anyone? Supposing I did ship that, I would not admit it, of course. :D
Sharing Dragon with Armsmaster would be kinda weird, though. Then again, if he botched that, and the original systems spawned a new one from backup, there might not be any issues there. I wonder how THAT system works with the fact that she had/has a soul?
 
Who said it's only her?
Shipyard had only the chance to detect it after he attempted to heal her (Piggot) with his Alteran powers. He had no contact with anyone else from Elisburg till now.
And chances are high that if it was in Piggot, its also in everyone else who was there and unprotected during the initial outbreak, or received a wound from Nilbog's monsters- depending on the vector he used.
Wasn't the only other non-parahuman survivor of that clusterfuck Calvert? I'm pretty sure it was canonically stated that Piggot and Calvert were the only surviving PRT personnel to emerge from Nilbog's 'garden' after their parahuman support fled early in the fight, so it's entirely possible that Calvert is the only other person infected with that plague.

From its description, the plague was basically a long term 'fuck you' that would slowly and quietly kill whoever it infected by interfering with the body's natural healing, causing injuries to get worse instead of better and also accelerating the aging process, presumably due to interfering with the systems that repair DNA telomeres. So it's not something that anyone other than Panacea would notice if they didn't know what to look for, and neither Calvert nor Piggot have ever allowed Panacea to heal them: Piggot because she is biased against parahumans and would rather waste huge amounts of time and money on dialysis than allow a parahuman to help her, and Calvert because he's pretending to not be a parahuman.
Based on its effects and the apparent fact that it was not contagious, it was probably transmitted via being wounded by Nilbog's monsters, so Calvert might not be infected either as I don't remember if he was wounded as well as Piggot. Still, yeah once the plague is explained dragging Calvert in to get checked over for the plague should become a high priority, which will of course reveal his parahumanity.

Soooo...
One little issue. I don't recall Weldon doing anything about Tattletale's potential brain tumor problem...? She was placed in a medbay, but are we to merely assume it was started? I do hope he can get their powers to reactivate (and perhaps behave themselves better) in the future.
The medbay is Alteran tech, generally speaking Alteran tech is highly autonomous if not outright intelligent, so there's a 50/50 chance that it will automatically either put her into stasis, or just go ahead and fix the tumor (and any other problems it detects) all by itself.

And what's with his own power (extra-universal SI or no) that made it benign even when cut off? For that matter, just how and why is it eating the local solar system?
His Alteran physiology made the tumor benign, or more accurately his Alteran immune system recognized the tumor as a dangerous tumor and promptly started dealing with it. Because Alteran are biologically way more robust than Humans and are entirely capable of healing and regenerating brain damage all by themselves.
I have no clue why his Shard is eating the solar system, possibly it is attempting to grow up into a real Entity all on its own, possibly it's just gone batshit insane from interactions with Alteran technology, who knows. With the Alterans involved the answer could be anything.

Also, given that constructors have been spotted around the city, are these the ones that work properly and fix things, or are they going to be a new problem and start uncontrollably replicating? Either way, let's hope Coil's base gets disassembled around his ears. He'd deserve it, especially if any of the governing AIs know who took that shot. :p
They should be functioning as proper Constructors and not Replicators; the Replicators only went rogue because they were built by a scared child who gave her toys the primary command of 'Replicate' and because they were Alteran tech there were no internal safety systems in the event of bad commands, because why would someone do something stupid like that?

So unless Weldon's shard has done something on its own and fucked up, the Constructors should be about as safe as any unsupervised Alteran technology is; that is to say not very. But they won't go rogue; Alteran tech doesn't break or malfunction, it does exactly what it is told to do, the problem arises when it is told to do something stupid by people who don't understand what they are doing.
Because the Alterans literally never envisaged the possibility that anyone could ever not know what they were doing, due to being such ridiculous geniuses that it was all but impossible for them to not know what they were doing, and never growing up enough to realize that other people didn't think the same way that they did.

Also, how is Piggot going to react when she finds out that he has several tiers of self-replicating devices, from the ultimate Tinker worry of nanites up to the aforementioned constructors? Or for that matter, Coil, since he was also a Nilbog survivor? Perhaps when he mentions just how many times the Alterans screwed up with some variant of grey goo...?
Fear and panic, followed by table flipping fury, most likely.

I see he's doing a very, very effective job at collecting all the potential interests. Love icosahedron, anyone? Supposing I did ship that, I would not admit it, of course. :D
Sharing Dragon with Armsmaster would be kinda weird, though. Then again, if he botched that, and the original systems spawned a new one from backup, there might not be any issues there. I wonder how THAT system works with the fact that she had/has a soul?
It depends on how exactly Dragon's soul works; while the Alterans cracked soul science ages ago, they never figured out how to create souls or give them to things that did not already have them: This was actually a plot point with the Asurans who could not ascend due to not having souls, and so attempted to come up with their own method of 'digital ascension' that... didn't really work the way they wanted it to. The Entities apparently encountered a species that did work out how to program for souls at some point in the past, so depending on how that works the backup would either generate its own new soul, or it would simply be soulless like Alteran AI's if there's more to it than just code.
 
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That might be a keyword there: PRT personnel.
Not Protectorate. Not Wards(if they were stupid enough to send any). Not rogues. Not Villains. Not independents. Hell, Not even the military was counted.
So for the PRT, only two of everyone they sent got out alive.
But what about everyone else who got involved? It can't be that, for an S-class threat, only the bog-standard humans got involved.
Plus, not accounting for any civilians who escaped before escape was impossible.(prior to the kill team being sent in).
 
That might be a keyword there: PRT personnel.
Not Protectorate. Not Wards(if they were stupid enough to send any). Not rogues. Not Villains. Not independents. Hell, Not even the military was counted.
So for the PRT, only two of everyone they sent got out alive.
But what about everyone else who got involved? It can't be that, for an S-class threat, only the bog-standard humans got involved.
Plus, not accounting for any civilians who escaped before escape was impossible.(prior to the kill team being sent in).
This is Worm, the military doesn't exist. According to canon the PRT sent in multiple strike teams backed up by a number of capes from the Toronto Protectorate, the capes fled early on, and the strike teams were wiped out save for Piggot and Calvert. After that disaster Ellisburg was written off, then they channeled Trump, built a wall and quietly tried to forget all about it.
There were no other people involved, Nilbog killed everyone in the town and no-one else wanted to go in there because duh.

Yes this doesn't make even the slightest lick of sense, welcome to Worm.
 
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This is Worm, the military doesn't exist. According to canon the PRT sent in multiple strike teams backed up by a number of capes from the Toronto Protectorate, the capes fled early on, and the strike teams were wiped out save for Piggot and Calvert. After that disaster Ellisburg was written off, then they channeled Trump, built a wall and quietly tried to forget all about it.
There were no other people involved, Nilbog killed everyone in the town and no-one else wanted to go in there because duh.

Yes this doesn't make even the slightest lick of sense, welcome to Worm.

And what would be be proper course of action?
 
And what would be be proper course of action?
Air recon for example?
A human operator with eyes on a screen to help coordinate the ground teams.
A police or military (militia, home guard, etc) unit blocking off roads, or setting up checkpoints- also to act as immediate mobile backup.
Go in an armored car or truck- instead of on foot?

Whole town wen't 'dark' for a day or more, and that's likely after anyone bothered to notice that someone didn't show up for work 2-3 days in a row, and can't be contacted. In a world with parahumans that really should trigger all the red fags.
It might not be the proper, or only way to deal with it, but it would be certainly better than doping off your heroes and human teams, and leaving them to their own fate, with foot mobility.
 
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