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Alchemical Solutions [Worm/Exalted] Thread 23: We Wonder Where Who Wanders When Watchers Wane

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wingnut2292 said:
I actually was serious, at lest as a thought experiment. Besides the word if Grom, how am I wrong compared to the other Ori candidates?
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Exaltations are humans only, or people with human soul-structures.
Jadeborn cannot Exalt, neither can Dragon-Kings or spirits.
Entities are Primordial equivalents, with what looks like Primordial soul-structures; they can't Exalt, even assuming Eden is alive.

Furthermore, the very worst thing you could do is use UMI to mind-sculpt someone who is your enemy before Exalting them.
Because now they are Exalted, they can revoke all that brainwashing by spending Willpower, and they now have their old memories and attitudes back, with an additional grudge for your attempt to play them for a fool.

There is a reason why Taylor is picking willing, enthusiastic candidates for Exaltation.
And why Autobot asked for Taylor's consent after giving a precis of the situation; last thing you want to do is create your own Nemesis, given that Exalts have an illustrious history of deicide and worse.

Exalts are not puppets, and were specifically designed to shrug off attempts to use them as such; else Theion et al would have crushed them during the Primordial War.
 
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wingnut2292 said:
I actually was serious, at lest as a thought experiment. Besides the word if Grom, how am I wrong compared to the other Ori candidates?
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*peels back the mask* Aha! I always knew it was actually TheWingedOne under there!

[X] Hannah Smith (Miss Militia)
- [X] Stunt: The members of the PRT squad, wounded and healthy alike, rouse and smile as Hannah moves through the room. She stops long enough to speak with everyone, though fatigue slows her movements imperceptibly. Next to you, Chevalier sighs quietly, exhaustion plain on his face. "She always checks on the squads after combat operations. Particularly when they go bad."

Needs something. Not sure what. Targeted caste is Jade.
 
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[X]Aisha Laborn(Who) for Moonsilver Caste.
-[X]Stunt: Across from the Alchemicals, Aisha leaned forward, almost vibrating with anticipation."So what you're saying, yeah, is that you want me for James Bond? Or Electra?" Saki covers her mouth as Taylor winces. "Maybe less explosions? More like Veronica Mars...." "Sold! I'll be the best secret agent who ever agented! One question though." She points "I get Saki's disguise power, right?"

Aisha really is the best Moonsilver we're likely to ever get. As for Accord... Well, as far as Ori is concerned, I'm still 100% in GU's corner on this, but I won't throw up a stink or anything if he eventually (or now) gets Ori.
 
[X]Aisha Laborn(Who) for Moonsilver Caste.
-[X]Stunt: Across from the Alchemicals, Aisha leaned forward, almost vibrating with anticipation."So what you're saying, yeah, is that you want me for James Bond? Or Electra?" Saki covers her mouth as Taylor winces. "Maybe less explosions? More like Veronica Mars...." "Sold! I'll be the best secret agent who ever agented! One question though." She points "I get Saki's disguise power, right?"
 
[X] Aisha Laborn (Who)
-[X]Stunt: Across from the Alchemicals, Aisha leaned forward, almost vibrating with anticipation."So what you're saying, yeah, is that you want me for James Bond? Or Electra?" Saki covers her mouth as Taylor winces. "Maybe less explosions? More like Veronica Mars...." "Sold! I'll be the best secret agent who ever agented! One question though." She points "I get Saki's disguise power, right?"
 
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Now that I think of it?
Aisha may be less James Bond and more Ethan Hunt.
Complete with those face masks from Mission Impossible 2 and the crazy, crazy stunts.

Because I can totally see her breaking into the fiftieth floor of a skyscraper from the outside, or clinging onto the outside of a plane that's taking off.
 
uju32 said:
Now that I think of it?
Aisha may be less James Bond and more Ethan Hunt.
Complete with those face masks from Mission Impossible 2 and the crazy, crazy stunts.

Because I can totally see her breaking into the fiftieth floor of a skyscraper from the outside, or clinging onto the outside of a plane that's taking off.
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as long as she isn't Jason bourne, though I woldn't mind her being Kusanagi Motoko.
 
sainen said:
as long as she isn't Jason bourne, though I woldn't mind her being Kusanagi Motoko.
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Jason has no style.
Fully expect that if Aisha gets into a gun fight, there'll be white doves flying about.
SwiftRosenthal said:
Annie Walker would be okay though.
The real problem is if she were to become Carrie Mathison.
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Little chance of that.
Stormseed said:
Would that make Prayer Jack Baur?
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Nah.
Prayer is the heavy backup that gets called in at the end of the movie to suppress the remaining baddies with extreme prejudice.
Taylor is Nick Fury.
 
[X]Aisha Laborn(Who) for Moonsilver Caste.
-[X]Stunt: Across from the Alchemicals, Aisha leaned forward, almost vibrating with anticipation."So what you're saying, yeah, is that you want me for James Bond? Or Electra?" Saki covers her mouth as Taylor winces. "Maybe less explosions? More like Veronica Mars...." "Sold! I'll be the best secret agent who ever agented! One question though." She points "I get Saki's disguise power, right?"
 
Twei said:
Actually, yeah. If I thought it had a chance of winning, I'd be totally willing to vote TEAM MEETING. As long as it doesn't involve Cauldron and... wait, Dragon has Saint. Crud. That's a problem. D:
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The thing is...this is the OOC way we decide candidates. IC, we'd totally (or we should...) be discussing this with the Assembly. Taylor's likely the one putting forward suggestions (and probably has final say), but I can't see any reason for her not to discuss something this big with people (and see Uju's stunt - has Saki there, implying Assembly involvement).
Geas said:
Mind you, I don't much like Accord.
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Then don't vote for him - the Assembly has always been the characters we want to see more of, not the ones we think would be best mechanically (though that does definitely help).
Zcuron said:
(sleepless, perfect memory, age//training//experience(+xp?), Autochthon's conversion of 'all the weapons' into a moonsilver caste... though they're apprently meant to think outside the box? Militia seems very box-mindful.)
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Well, sleeplessness is a Charm (and we can basically do that at the moment with drugs), I doubt perfect memory would be all that helpfuly, and there's a Charm that is just 'all the weapons'. The reason to grab MM is for who she is as a person (which includes her experience, which is very good) - I don't see her power really coming into it that much (it is better than the Alchemical Charm, due to the access to Earth Bet weaponry and artillery sized weaponry though, and likely sub mods to make it even better etc - but it doesn't bring something truly unique or valuable, which is far more something to consider when selecting based on powers I feel).

And if thinking outside the box is the requirement for Moonsilver...I really don't see that as MM. Jade, definitely - but I think Vista's still our favourite for that. Ori...might fit based on what Uju posted. Would definitely be the most appealing choice at current if she was a good fit for that. There's the issue of what she'd do - yes, we can give her a Charm load out for almost anything. But I think the Charm load out and role should suit the person. And the role of Ori that she'd fit is not something that I think she'd need (or at least not with Jade as well).
(There's also the thing of 'Ori as our Wizard' that's been a thing for a while, which doesn't really fit her, especially with the Clarity requirements.)

Actually, what other roles could we really build, out of curiosity? (Other than what we've currently got/proposed for Vista/Aisha, because I sort of get those). Because I can't really think of much - Weaving (E4), could sort of build a super-Tinker/Thinker (though that'd be almost exactly the same as EoA)?
 
am I correctly remembering that Aisha's shard is the one that blacks out trigger visions? Because if so, interesting things could happen when its converted to a shardcharm.

I also just had the best worst idea ever: alchemize The Butcher and see what Autobot does with a power accumulating reincarnation charm.

More seriously, the Personality Override Spike would be ideal for wiping the personalities attached to the shard and leting some hero just inherit the power. Unlikely to happen but very useful if it did.
 
mastigos said:
am I correctly remembering that Aisha's shard is the one that blacks out trigger visions? Because if so, interesting things could happen when its converted to a shardcharm.
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Not really - there's WoGrom that while it's initially responsible, the Shards've figured out how to do it themselves (or something like that from memory), so there'd be no change in trigger vision (pretty sure it was mentioned in the last couple of pages, either a quote by Datakim or Grom chiming in).
mastigos said:
More seriously, the Personality Override Spike would be ideal for wiping the personalities attached to the shard and leting some hero just inherit the power.
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Except it can't (currently) do anything to Shards. So while we could wipe the memories of the current Butcher, essentially 'resetting' them to before they became the Butcher, they'd still be hearing the voices and would start going insane again.

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Algalon said:
[X] Accord
-[X] Stunt: "Can I take it that I was chosen as the next candidate?" asks Accord sitting at a simple table. "Perhaps," retorts Taylor, "first we need to discuss your place in our Assembly. To put it bluntly, you'd be our planner and… wizard, I guess. Then there's your past with Marrow…" explains the Alchemical, now looking at her stern faced blue companion.
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I'll point out that while Ori is planned to (likely) be our 'robo-wizard', that's not a Charm that's available at the moment, or even a role that can be filled at the moment. (And thus is not really relevant for the vote stunt).
 
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uju32 said:
Now that I think of it?
Aisha may be less James Bond and more Ethan Hunt.
Complete with those face masks from Mission Impossible 2 and the crazy, crazy stunts.

Because I can totally see her breaking into the fiftieth floor of a skyscraper from the outside, or clinging onto the outside of a plane that's taking off.
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Nah (partially)Solid-snek or John McClane :p
 
So remember when I think it was wingnut suggested TEAM MEETING?

I'm gonna vote for that now, just for fun. Cauldron shenanigans aside, it was actually a pretty reasonable idea. And since I'm okay with Aisha winning and Aisha is winning right now. :V

[x] I'm copacetic with Gromweld's choice.
-[x] Stunt: You're not sure who found the music, and whether it's the Aleph or Bet version- is there a difference? A nice idea, but no. This is way too serious for montage music. Instead, the three of you pore over the mountains of pictures, documents and memories in relative silence. No time for Scarface. The world could rest on this decision.
 
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[X]Aisha Laborn(Who) for Moonsilver Caste.
-[X]Stunt: Across from the Alchemicals, Aisha leaned forward, almost vibrating with anticipation."So what you're saying, yeah, is that you want me for James Bond? Or Electra?" Saki covers her mouth as Taylor winces. "Maybe less explosions? More like Veronica Mars...." "Sold! I'll be the best secret agent who ever agented! One question though." She points "I get Saki's disguise power, right?"
 
Vote Tally : Alchemical Solutions [Worm/Exalted] Thread 23: We Wonder Where Who Wanders When Watchers Wane | Page 65 | Sufficient Velocity
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[ X] Accord
No. of Votes: 19
Geas
Algalon
Avoozl
Broken25
Cassiemouse
CeBrudras
Disconnect
Dynamesmouse
fictionfan
frozenchicken
Fumbles
Idan Dor
I'llNameThisL8r
Imrix
Jouaint
masterofmadness
minimap_op
thamuzz
veekie
[] Aisha Laborn (Who)
-[]Stunt: Across from the Alchemicals, Aisha leaned forward, almost vibrating with anticipation."So what you're saying, yeah, is that you want me for James Bond? Or Electra?" Saki covers her mouth as Taylor winces. "Maybe less explosions? More like Veronica Mars...." "Sold! I'll be the best secret agent who ever agented! One question though." She points "I get Saki's disguise power, right?"(60 words)
No. of Votes: 18
1986ctcel
Arbit
Cujo
Diceart
dracklor
Evil Atlas
Killer_Whale
Lord Ultimus
Manic Dogma
Monotov
Romv
sainen
SwiftRosenthal
The Lowtide
uju32
Versac
WolfKit
Zcuron
[] Aisha Laborn (Who)
No. of Votes: 12
dpara
Amberion
Elero
Jinnt
landcollector
Mobiusmech
NemoMarx
Noxious
Outoftheinferno
Silently Watches
Thief of Words
VNodosaurus
[] Robert Erwin (Chevalier)
No. of Votes: 2
ctulhuslp
Yeangst
[] Who?
No. of Votes: 2
Graypairofsocks
habrok
[] Hannah Smith (Miss Militia)
- [] Stunt: The members of the PRT squad, wounded and healthy alike, rouse and smile as Hannah moves through the room. She stops long enough to speak with everyone, though fatigue slows her movements imperceptibly. Next to you, Chevalier sighs quietly, exhaustion plain on his face. "She always checks on the squads after combat operations. Particularly when they go bad."
No. of Votes: 1
Scify
[] Miss Militia
No. of Votes: 1
Aklyon
[] The Eden Avatar for Orichalcum Caste
- [] Stunt: Taylor followed as Contessa escorted her the latest threat to the world. "So, this is the Bride? She looks so human for being one of the masterminds behind all of this. Taylor regarded the screaming silver woman. "Behind it all. If we...and then Saki..." The Soulsteel turned to face Contessa. "I have a crazy idea, but it might work."
No. of Votes: 1
wingnut2292
[] Hannah Smith (Miss Militia)
-[] "Autochthon is dying, even if we save him, we may have an entire planet of refugees we need to help. There is no one I trust more to care about that being done right than you. You are one of the best natural problem solvers I've ever met, and we need you as part of our team. I may not always agree with you but I always listen. You are the hero we need. "
No. of Votes: 1
ClawClawBite
[] Willow for Moonsilver Caste.
No. of Votes: 1
spudman
[] I'm copacetic with Gromweld's choice.
-[] Stunt: You're not sure who found the music, and whether it's the Aleph or Bet version- is there a difference? A nice idea, but no. This is way too serious for montage music. Instead, the three of you pore over the mountains of pictures, documents and memories in relative silence. No time for Scarface. The world could rest on this decision.
No. of Votes: 1
Twei
Total No. of Voters: 59
 
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you should be merging the options

Vote Tally : Alchemical Solutions [Worm/Exalted] Thread 23: We Wonder Where Who Wanders When Watchers Wane | Page 65 | Sufficient Velocity
##### NetTally 1.7.4
[X]Aisha Laborn(Who) for Moonsilver Caste.
No. of Votes: 32
1986ctcel
Amberion
Arbit
Cujo
Diceart
dpara
dracklor
Elero
Evil Atlas
Graypairofsocks
habrok
Jinnt
Killer_Whale
landcollector
Lord Ultimus
Manic Dogma
Mobiusmech
Monotov
NemoMarx
Noxious
Outoftheinferno
Romv
sainen
Silently Watches
SwiftRosenthal
The Lowtide
Thief of Words
uju32
Versac
VNodosaurus
WolfKit
Zcuron
[ X] Accord
No. of Votes: 19
Geas
Algalon
Avoozl
Broken25
Cassiemouse
CeBrudras
Disconnect
Dynamesmouse
fictionfan
frozenchicken
Fumbles
Idan Dor
I'llNameThisL8r
Imrix
Jouaint
masterofmadness
minimap_op
thamuzz
veekie
[X] Hannah Smith (Miss Militia)
No. of Votes: 3
Aklyon
ClawClawBite
Scify
[X] Robert Erwin (Chevalier)
No. of Votes: 2
ctulhuslp
Yeangst
[x] The Eden Avatar for Orichalcum Caste
No. of Votes: 1
wingnut2292
[X] Willow for Moonsilver Caste.
No. of Votes: 1
spudman
[x] I'm copacetic with Gromweld's choice.
No. of Votes: 1
Twei
Total No. of Voters: 59

Vote Tally : Alchemical Solutions [Worm/Exalted] Thread 23: We Wonder Where Who Wanders When Watchers Wane | Page 65 | Sufficient Velocity
##### NetTally 1.7.4
[X]Aisha Laborn(Who) for Moonsilver Caste.
-[X]Stunt: Across from the Alchemicals, Aisha leaned forward, almost vibrating with anticipation."So what you're saying, yeah, is that you want me for James Bond? Or Electra?" Saki covers her mouth as Taylor winces. "Maybe less explosions? More like Veronica Mars...." "Sold! I'll be the best secret agent who ever agented! One question though." She points "I get Saki's disguise power, right?"
No. of Votes: 18
1986ctcel
Arbit
Cujo
Diceart
dracklor
Evil Atlas
Killer_Whale
Lord Ultimus
Manic Dogma
Monotov
Romv
sainen
SwiftRosenthal
The Lowtide
uju32
Versac
WolfKit
Zcuron
[X] Hannah Smith (Miss Militia)
- [X] Stunt: The members of the PRT squad, wounded and healthy alike, rouse and smile as Hannah moves through the room. She stops long enough to speak with everyone, though fatigue slows her movements imperceptibly. Next to you, Chevalier sighs quietly, exhaustion plain on his face. "She always checks on the squads after combat operations. Particularly when they go bad."
No. of Votes: 1
Scify
[x] The Eden Avatar for Orichalcum Caste
- [x] Stunt: Taylor followed as Contessa escorted her the latest threat to the world. "So, this is the Bride? She looks so human for being one of the masterminds behind all of this. Taylor regarded the screaming silver woman. "Behind it all. If we...and then Saki..." The Soulsteel turned to face Contessa. "I have a crazy idea, but it might work."
No. of Votes: 1
wingnut2292
[X] Hannah Smith (Miss Militia)
-[X] "Autochthon is dying, even if we save him, we may have an entire planet of refugees we need to help. There is no one I trust more to care about that being done right than you. You are one of the best natural problem solvers I've ever met, and we need you as part of our team. I may not always agree with you but I always listen. You are the hero we need. "
No. of Votes: 1
ClawClawBite
[x] I'm copacetic with Gromweld's choice.
-[x] Stunt: You're not sure who found the music, and whether it's the Aleph or Bet version- is there a difference? A nice idea, but no. This is way too serious for montage music. Instead, the three of you pore over the mountains of pictures, documents and memories in relative silence. No time for Scarface. The world could rest on this decision.
No. of Votes: 1
Twei
Total No. of Voters: 22
 
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