Twei
I have a face!
- Location
- the land where they write things
- Pronouns
- They/Them
IMO, if you're going to mess around with that, what she really needs is Temperance.
Probably.
Alchemical Solutions [Worm/Exalted] Thread 23: We Wonder Where Who Wanders When Watchers Wane
- Thread starter Gromweld
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Probably.
Scify
It always starts with a lighthouse.
If I'm understanding what you're asking, then it's hierarchical: 50 votes for Aisha, split among 3 different stunts, are 50 votes for Aisha, with the winning stunt being the one with the largest number of votes.
Geas
Meat Thing
I'd completely forgotten about the Soul Gem injectors. In that light, using one on him could prove interesting, and grant a good deal of the same benefits that Exalting him would. The coldly practical and logical part of me however still leans towards him over Aisha.
Mind you, I don't much like Accord. But he is a valuable asset, and such assets shouldn't be squandered, and an experienced tactician and planner holds more appeal to me than someone who's possibly the perfect ghost thanks to her power. Plus, a kid making that kind of permanent life-changing decision.. again, I cringe inside. But hopefully she can handle it, if she does win the vote.
Accord definitely needs to be put to work, one way or another. Preferably before yet another wrench gets thrown into the works. Personally, I'm most concerned by another attempt from the Simurgh at sabotage, either directly or indirectly.
sainen
Elder Lich
I feel that we'd benefit more from having one of the other Orihalcum candidates Exalted, especially when you factor in that the Soul Gem fixes Accords Problems.
personally I think we should stick to exalting Heroes like we have been less chance of having to spend our political capital or PR resources to fix potential problems with them.
heck building up Armsmaster or Miss Militia to be our Orihalcum could actually make the PRT feel better about our Assembly because of who they are, and their know morals.
OPTION A
Moonsilver hearthstone bracers: Artifact 2: +2L soak, +3 Dodge, 4m attunement.
Moonsilver Infinite Resplendence Amulet: Artifact 3: +5L soak, shapeshifting outfit, bonus to Stealth and Larceny, bonus to Resistance and Survival, 5m attunement.
5 dots of Artifact for 5XP.
OPTION B
Tattoo Orichalcum Breastplate: Artifact 1: 8L/6B soak, 3L/3B hardness, 4m attunement.
1 dot of Artifact for 1XP.
Problem being no idea whether GM will allow it to be hidden by IAT/HSA; should be since Lunars can do the same thing, but who knows.
OPTION 3
6 points of Tough Mutation from TAW Redux: 6L/6B soak
12 XP, no mote or slot cost.
@Gromweld
Note that I'm avoiding true cheese.
Like Perfected Kata Bracers.
*shrug*
Taylor went from being stuffed in a locker to facetanking five sniper bullets to the face and body to playing tag with Behemoth to ducking a murder attempt by her father.
All in something like a two or three week period.
And she's by no means exceptional for the Chosen of Autochton.
TL;DR
Alchemicals are tough.
Accord is Ally 1.
We paid XP for him, he doesn't die without our at least getting an opportunity to save him.
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Evil Atlas
Inspector of Details
- Location
- Denial
- Pronouns
- He/Him
But are they tough because they're Alchemicals, or are they tough because only tough people are chosen to be Alchemicals?
ClawClawBite
Mad Engineering!
- Location
- Seattle, WA
The goal is to convince MM to say yes by drawing on her background, given she was a maybe and not an easy yes, and to try to slot her into the Adaptable Moonsilver role.
Past that, I wrote it quickly on my way out the door this morning because I wanted at least something there to help more than a pure person vote. If someone can write a better stunt for her, I'm all on board. Please go and do one.
There's seemingly a lot of strategic voting here, 'Aisha because not Accord' and such, which makes me long for an instant-runoff voting system, but I digress.
If the 'exalt now' choice is meant to denote haste to help Autochthon, getting there seems the highest priority, something only Accord (thinking it out) and Missy could help with. (transport between Saki and Sakura's sides)
Word of Grom that her power won't work in Saki/Sakura's dimension, exalting might fix that, granting us access to Autochthon's world-body, and by extension, Sakura. (2 for 1!) We already have a WoRI stunt with her, which might help with persuasion. (stunt segue "I... can't?" Missy looks up to see the downcast eyes of Saki, the remnants of hope leaving her form. "Saki?" "... I miss sakura, I think she's..." Saki looks to the seemingly infinite white sky longingly. "Up there." "..oh." (is that any good as a stunt? haven't written anything before, not sure what the criteria are))
We also have a Soulgem Injector, which potentially fixes both Accord and Who, giving them some Willpower to resist their shards with. So votes for them ought not be to 'fix' them as we might be able to do that anyway.
I, personally, want to at least explore the other Ori options, the ones we notably can't even vote for here due to lack of IC interaction, before picking one. (Alexandria - potential but risky. GU - personal amusement + 'unlimited power'. Armsy - I know too little of him. Chevalier - See armsy. Miss Militia - because she might be Ori.)
So because of 'not accord right now', I would vote for Missy because I like her, and because I think potentially getting to Autochthonia is a big IC carrot. But Missy apparently won't win this vote, so Aisha it is.
[X]Aisha Laborn(Who) for Moonsilver Caste.
-[X]Stunt: Across from the Alchemicals, Aisha leaned forward, almost vibrating with anticipation."So what you're saying, yeah, is that you want me for James Bond? Or Electra?" Saki covers her mouth as Taylor winces. "Maybe less explosions? More like Veronica Mars...." "Sold! I'll be the best secret agent who ever agented! One question though." She points "I get Saki's disguise power, right?"(60 words)
I just wish I could've seen some other options for moonsilver explored, like Willow (apparently?) and Miss Militia. Miss Militia in particular. (sleepless, perfect memory, age//training//experience(+xp?), Autochthon's conversion of 'all the weapons' into a moonsilver caste... though they're apprently meant to think outside the box? Militia seems very box-mindful.)
sainen
Elder Lich
all the weapons would, Imo, would better as an Ori, starmetal, or Jade.
Starmetal is taken, I want Jade Vista, and there's no clear winning candidate for Ori.
while there may be some Strategic voting for Aisha going on, Aisha's had tons of support for the Moonsilver Caste slot for some time(I think it started before the S9 arc)
dracklor
Beyond the Frontier
- Location
- Texas
The argument that Jade Vista could let us connect Saki and Sakura, and thus enable limited trade with Autochthonia is something I hadn't considered.
That could be an enormous help to our overall goal.
I think I will change my vote if we get a good stunt for Missy.
That could be an enormous help to our overall goal.
I think I will change my vote if we get a good stunt for Missy.
- Location
- U.S.
Not really? High compassion isn't crazy. It can make people do extreme things, but it's normal, in that it's a thing some people can have naturally and without it being a problem. The issue comes if you use things lie Cosmic Transcendence of Virtue, or Epic Zeal of Virtue, which do make you crazy. Or suffer the Great Curse, which we luckily don't have.
Agreed.
I meant it mostly in the sense that it hides support for other camps, not that Aisha wouldn't have any support otherwise. She's a good pick, just not my first one given the options at hand.
If it works. Given the reduction in what Uzu & Tatsu can move to Their Space, converting Vista could very well reduce the effective area in return for some other effect. (like manton unlimiting or somesuch)
It's a bit of a gamble, but so is Accord for that matter. He might not be able to Plan Autochthon's salvation after all. At least with Missy we get Cutest Little Sister™.
Stick a Soul in the man before converting him please, I want to see if he's a kindly uncle under all that shardness. Don't want grumpy old man on the team. (also, Aisha and Accord on the same team? she can be trying even for those without neuroses.)
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No actual assurance that distance works that way in her dimension.
A little of A, a little of B.
Our current Assembly includes a woman whose old power made her feel like she was breaking bones constantly, and the Twins were able to fight through physical control of their power by implants. Our Jade candidate attempted to bite through her own tongue in order to suffocate and deny the Nine use of her body. Our leading Moonsilver candidate attempted to suicide bomb Hatchet Face with containment foam.
A set of tougher characters you are unlikely to run into in a dark alley.
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FunkyEntropy
Occasionally insightful, possibly grumpy
- Location
- Los Angeles
I'm so torn here. On the one hand, I utterly adore Willow. On the other, she's had nowhere near enough screen time to justify the pick. We don't really know what makes her tick, and while I think she could probably fill the Moonsilver slot with proper coaching I don't feel 100% confidence in that unlike Aisha.
Speaking of, as much as I'm not fond of Aisha due to tone conflicts and her tendency to dominate scenes due to authorial favoritism...she's absolutely demonstrated that she's worthy. And unlike Accord she won't cause any Assembly drama.
Speaking of, as much as I'm not fond of Aisha due to tone conflicts and her tendency to dominate scenes due to authorial favoritism...she's absolutely demonstrated that she's worthy. And unlike Accord she won't cause any Assembly drama.
wingnut2292
<Verified Sugar Addict>
- Location
- Milwaukee Metro
[x] The Eden Avatar for Orichalcum Caste
- [x] Stunt: Taylor followed as Contessa escorted her the latest threat to the world. "So, this is the Bride? She looks so human for being one of the masterminds behind all of this. Taylor regarded the screaming silver woman. "Behind it all. If we...and then Saki..." The Soulsteel turned to face Contessa. "I have a crazy idea, but it might work."
I had time duribg work to plan this out. I am going to catch holy hell for this. But it can work. Use Transendant Brutality Programming while in Saki's space, under the cover of Taylor's invisability just for added saftey break Eden's will. POS to break loyalties to Scion, or to swap them out for loyalties to the human race. Teach her copoeration, humanity's greatest invention, and thus make her care about the fate of the human race. Then, give her a soul and promptly open the portal out of Saki's Space perfectly flush with the Cradle. We'll either get our Ori, Auto-kun will have a new Divine Minister, the Viator will kill Eden dead, or Zion will somehow find out and start the apocalypse.
- [x] Stunt: Taylor followed as Contessa escorted her the latest threat to the world. "So, this is the Bride? She looks so human for being one of the masterminds behind all of this. Taylor regarded the screaming silver woman. "Behind it all. If we...and then Saki..." The Soulsteel turned to face Contessa. "I have a crazy idea, but it might work."
I had time duribg work to plan this out. I am going to catch holy hell for this. But it can work. Use Transendant Brutality Programming while in Saki's space, under the cover of Taylor's invisability just for added saftey break Eden's will. POS to break loyalties to Scion, or to swap them out for loyalties to the human race. Teach her copoeration, humanity's greatest invention, and thus make her care about the fate of the human race. Then, give her a soul and promptly open the portal out of Saki's Space perfectly flush with the Cradle. We'll either get our Ori, Auto-kun will have a new Divine Minister, the Viator will kill Eden dead, or Zion will somehow find out and start the apocalypse.
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sainen
Elder Lich
what the hell is that shit.
1. not human
2. not heroic
3. not really intelligent
4.is the enemy
5. too large to move to the cradle
6. would set off Scion
7. not loyal
8. would drain Autochthon completely.
dracklor
Beyond the Frontier
- Location
- Texas
I wonder if Auto-kun could drain her of resources to help offset his starvation? Gotta admit it has some chutzpah feeding him one of the big bads of the setting.
Gromweld
Learning By Mistake
I thought about it, but the last time I did a runoff vote it didn't go very smoothly either. So, for now, I'd rather people own up and settle on a position - we'll never have a "perfect choice" so it's all about looking at the options presented and settling on the choice that you'd like to see win the most.
As amusing (and improbable) as this is, I'll just tell you now that it won't be counted because Eden isn't on the list of candidates.
She sorta eats up the scenery in canon whenever she starts talking, so I've tried to do that justice at least. High Charisma in action!
wingnut2292
<Verified Sugar Addict>
- Location
- Milwaukee Metro
1. not human. We are litterally beating into a human-ish shape, spiritually. Physically, she'a prime specimen.
2. not heroic. Any more so than Accord or GU? Ha!
3. not really intelligent. She's the Thinker. She's been suffering a case of being in topor do to wounds. If she wasn't Worm would be a very different place.
4. is the enemy. So? Theft of Enemy recources are litterally parts of the Art of War. Making an enemy into a friend is a +2 net advantage.
5. too large to move to the cradle. I was talking about the screaming silver colored Eden Avatar, not the Flesh Garden.
6. would set off Scion. Behemoth can't see us when invisable. Saki's closed space is completely separate from Earth. We have a very good chance of Scion not being any wiser. If he was, Cauldron as a place would of been destroyed. I'm not saying it's high risk, but I really think we can pull it off.
7. not loyal. Read: Transcendent Brutality Programming. Personality Overide Spike et al. She will be ar worst as loyal as an Asimovian robot that acknlowges the 0-th Law. Par for the course for an Ori.
8. would drain Autochthon completely. We have no way of knowing, but unlikely since this is the Avatar body instead of the Flesh Garden.
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Better someone else point that out than me.
But yes, when you have the solid neutronium ovaries to go up against a Brute/Trump serial killer of your own free will while only armed with containment foam? Less than 12 hours after having lost your legs and arm to a robot gorilla? All in order to save other people?
You've made a very strong argument for yourself.
lolNow I know you're fucking with us on purpose.
Well done man.
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sainen
Elder Lich
less human than Dragon, who can't be exalted.
yes actually, in the classical sense of the term, which is the one that matters.
picking enemies is negative resources because they can and will rebel.
torturing someone into compliance is not in any of our assembly's character to do.
every shard beyond the single one connected to the parahuman drains another month of the time we have to exalt people.
Eden is connected to a shit load of shards.
and it also would kill all cauldron capes.
all in all it's just about the worst idea I've seen actually voted for in this quest over its 2+ year life span, and I'm glad Gromweld has vetoed it.
wingnut2292
<Verified Sugar Addict>
- Location
- Milwaukee Metro
Better someone else point that out than me.
But yes, when you have the solid neutronium ovaries to go up against a Brute/Trump serial killer of your own free will while only armed with containment foam? Less than 12 hours after having lost your legs and arm to a robot gorilla?
I want you on my side.
Now I know you're fucking with us on purpose.
Well done man.
I actually was serious, at lest as a thought experiment. Besides the word if Grom, how am I wrong compared to the other Ori candidates?