Doesn't take much acting for that. Just some basic common sense.
Alchemical Solutions [Worm/Exalted] Thread 18: Ravaging Rapscallions Rapidly Regret Regular Rampages
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I think you conflate lack of ability with circumspection in the use of said ability.
Dude pulled and managed to hang on to GG after all, which suggests significantly more social ability than most readers assume.
Additionally, the BB Wards as a whole somehow did not need major psych intervention until after the Leviathan event, despite operating in what was effectively an urban warfare battleground.
Amy?
Was not close, and Dean would have figured out that spreading himself too thin risks burnout; that's what fanon accuses Amy of doing after all.
Besides, 17.
And unlike Yamada, untrained and unpaid(for his social work).
I mean, lemme put it this way:
The BB Protectorate using the Wards to respond to things like bank robberies by parahumans and Bakuda bombs was apparently a fairly normal event, and there was a marked absence of therapists until Weld showed up and insisted on one.
On a team where the youngest member was 12.
Someone kept them functional in the absence of official psych support.
Kinzey?
Seriously, Kinzey and Dean.
If we still have a timeskip, they would be old enough to grab even the age-limited charms.
Thousand Courtesans is probably available for adult candidates.
if it isn't, there's no need for Appearance Augs.
1)Do remember that we are working with Revlid's Familiar rule.
That means that a dedicated combat array is a couple minutes away normally, and IEU slashes the time for dramatic actions, making that process even faster.
I'll additionally mention that IEU has proven entirely too potent not to be part of the basic loadout for a Nowhereverse Alchemical, along with ISF.
2)Note how Glenn manages to remain a Social monster with Charisma levels of a brick.
And while remaining in the background.
Cha is not the only way to go, especially as a Starmetal.
3)I am increasingly convinced that Miss Militia may be our best choice for Starmetal, much as I would prefer to leave her as a human ally.
She's experienced enough to max out charm slots, old enough to qualify for all the social charms, and used to playing number two.
Her parahuman shard is such that she only absolutely needs(as opposed to wants) a 3-Charm offensive array(Aim-Calibrating Sensors, Dedicated Harmonic Targeting, All-Inclusive Targeting Calculations[E4]), leaving 17 slots to dedicate to other things.
Additionally, her converted shard might have utility functions, depending on what artifacts she comes across which it might be persuaded to replicate; even if it's restricted to mid-level Essence artifacts, the ability to switch out a Necklace of Solar Charisma for an Obsidian Sheath at short notice would be pretty baller.
That doesn't even account for the normal tech she would be able to replicated; pulling a Davy Crockett derivative out is canon for her..
And she has the willpower to catalyze an Exaltation;someone who made it out of being a human minesweeper is almost certainly a candidate on account of mental toughness alone.
Problem is convincing her.
4)I would additionally suggest that whoever our social bot is should acquire a trifecta of Cha, Manip and App augs.
Coupled with IEU, this should be interesting.
While Moe-bot Accord would be incredibly funny , noone would trust him with the Happy Fun Spike tree, let alone the society adjustment Charms.
More to the point, no one in-universe would voluntarily allow him to use that on them.
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I honestly don't see Hannah as a good Starmetal. The right traits aren't there imo.
I think she'd work as either a Starmetal or Orichalcum.
More Starmetal, though.
She's very reluctant to work against her orders from above, which makes her a bad bet for Starmetal.
We are talking about Miss Militia, right?
The lady who took effective responsibility for shutting Tattletale up in mid-spiel during the Echidna event, without orders?
Despite the presence of higher-ranking Protectorate agents she could have left it up to?
One event does not make a trend.
That was acting in accordance to her organization's standing orders, it doesn't contravene their orders for their own good. She has consistently allowed the PRT to do what they ordered, even at the expense of the PRT.
We are talking about Miss Militia, right?
The lady who took effective responsibility for shutting Tattletale up in mid-spiel during the Echidna event, without orders?
Despite the presence of higher-ranking Protectorate agents she could have left it up to?
Legend was the one who did that by breaking the gag order from above.
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We are talking about Miss Militia, right?
The lady who took effective responsibility for shutting Tattletale up in mid-spiel during the Echidna event, without orders?
Despite the presence of higher-ranking Protectorate agents she could have left it up to?
Thats just her devotion to the PRT/Protectorate and "the system" due to her faith in it, it isn't until she goes through some more character development that she stop blindly trusting her superiors and refuses to execute Tattletale to "close the circle".
The way a character jumps during major events is pretty indicative of their character.
I will particularly note that there is no citation for the claim that she is reluctant to disobey orders from above.
Woman is a senior agent of the PRT, which means that she has input in determining what said orders ARE; she has no incentive to break them willy nilly unless they are pants on head retarded.
And the PRT is not generally incompetent.
And I will remind you that Starmetals are entirely capable of working within the system; reference Taylor's visions from Update 2.6
That's a bit reaching uju.
What?
She has not been in position to affect PRT policy outside Brockton Bay, and PRT policy inside BB is something she had a hand in crafting as the second-in-command, and later the agent in charge of the BB Protectorate.
Do you have a citation for her systematically implementing policy that she personally thought was bad for the PRT?
Legend is one of the heads of the Protectorate.
Said gag order is partly his responsibility in setting in the first place.
What devotion?
Can I get hard citations for these assertions as being more than the sensible calculation of an adult weighing costs and benefits?
People keep going on about Hana having faith in the system.
Do you seriously think a lady whose formative experiences involved being used as a minesweeper by her birth countries soldiers, who only ended up in the US because of the personal intervention of a random US officer, would be a blind follower of any system?
And that ignores other character examples, like the fact that the supposedly by the book Armsmaster is the same guy who, against standing PRT orders, got Kaiser killed so he could duel an Endbringer.
No it isn't.
Really.
Do we have proof she instituted policy at all?
The whole Echidna case was her giving in to Eidolon as her superior in the chain of command despite his doing something blatantly retarded and likely to doom the city. On the basis that he knows better.
This is the opposite of what a Starmetal needs.
That's like asking whether Tagg instituted policy.
She was the BB Protectorate senior agent in charge after Armsmaster got himself arrested, and remained so through the tenures of multiple Directors(Piggot, Calvert, Tagg and whoever came after).
Who else would the BB Director talk to?
Disagree.
That's you making assumptions based on OOC knowledge.
Deferring to a superior officer, with superior powers and more experience in S-class events is common sense, especially when you do not have superior intelligence.
Give me a citation where she let the PRT make a faulty decision or pursue a faulty course of action despite her knowing better.
That's the thing. If she was Starmetal material she would have had the keen insight to see that her superior's course of action is flawed, and taken action against orders for the good of the organization.
Starmetals obey orders only when the orders are the right thing for the situation. If a starmetal candidate obeys a faulty order without either realizing the order was faulty from their own judgment, or acceding to their superior or organization the right to issue such orders, they aren't a starmetal candidate.
Even Armsmaster would be a better Starmetal candidate than Miss Militia. Even if it's more a swollen head with him than keen insight.
Starmetals obey orders only when the orders are the right thing for the situation. If a starmetal candidate obeys a faulty order without either realizing the order was faulty from their own judgment, or acceding to their superior or organization the right to issue such orders, they aren't a starmetal candidate.
Even Armsmaster would be a better Starmetal candidate than Miss Militia. Even if it's more a swollen head with him than keen insight.
No True Scotsman fallacy.
I refer you, again, to the examples that Autochton sent to Taylor in her visions.
Starmetal candidates possess deep insight, but not when the information does not exist or cannot be reasonable available.
You need to stop conflating OOC knowledge with what is available to a character IC.
Vehemently disagree.
Dude, that in no way describes a Starmetal.
If that was a thing, the Yugash-Sovan War would not have happened.
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Ridtom
Good. Bad. I'm the man with the Wand.
We should also keep in mind that, as Grom mentioned previously, that Starmetals don't have to have the stereotypical traits of what they'd see in Exalted.
I'm no expert, but it seems pretty clear that Taylor is not a stereotypical Alchemical Exalt in anyway either.
I'm sure there's some reason why we need them anyways, though Starmetals who go behind our backs sound like a horrible idea.
I'm no expert, but it seems pretty clear that Taylor is not a stereotypical Alchemical Exalt in anyway either.
I'm sure there's some reason why we need them anyways, though Starmetals who go behind our backs sound like a horrible idea.
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Miss Militia, if I recall, was also one of the only authority figures who was willing to listen and work with Taylor, even to a limited degree, in contrast to every other PRT authority figure presented in story. She may have not wanted to directly disobey orders, but I always got the sense was that was because she had decided that respecting and reenforcing the chain of command in the Protectorate and the PRT was in itself something worth working towards.
It's not a slur against her. She's a great person, but she's doesn't meet the criteria to catalyze a Starmetal. Think of someone like Glenn, who goes directly against orders to release the raw video of the Endbringer battle because it was the best thing for the organization, even if it got him fired.
That's textbook Starmetal. He sees the right thing to do, and does it for their own good.
That's textbook Starmetal. He sees the right thing to do, and does it for their own good.
Ridtom
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I think the probkem is exactly that. He sees what he thinks was the right thing to do.
That could have gone horrifically wrong if instead of inspiring other capes, the image of Taylor allowing that cape to die, Contessa's victory, the cold capes running away caused backlash against the organization.
I'd be okay with Starmetals if they were like what Lily is to Tattletale in the epilogue: Someone willing to debate, call out, and point to the flaws in a plan and offer constructive critique.
Someone who just goes off on what they assume would be our best interest without at least giving us the benefit of the doubt, just seems to he asking for trouble.
Then you aren't thinking of a Starmetal.
Ridtom
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Exactly.
I honestly don't like the idea of a Starmetal. Or at least, a stereotypical Starmetal.
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She has faith in the US's "system" because she's a PATRIOT believing in the American dream and all that because her experience with that soldier AND her adoptive parents simply showed her that the system in America worked.
Because Armsmaster was "by the book" simply so he could get promoted high enough to do nothing but tinker? He sacrificed Kaiser to duel an Endbringer to salvage his reputation.
Ridtom
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It should be noted that Miss Militia is very religious as well. She thinks her powers are from an angel in canon at least.
Convincing her of a Machine God and that she doesn't have a soul would be a bit difficult.