Putting aside how this is not a Villain quest (not right now, at least), actively destabilizing the Earth Kingdom in a time when it's already near its breaking point and keeping the New Territories are pretty terrible both from a moral and strategic perspective.
No, it's not a villain quest, it's a politician quest, in which we are a character with a mix of nationalism and seperate colonial identity and very personal interests which we aim to pursue while not betraying our rightful ruler, without which our character, as established in quest canon, would be fine with the national endeavor, or war, continuing.
It is also distinctly not a fire nation redemption by falling on our swords for the other nations by submitting to claims made more of wounded pride than compassion and with general indifference to the people in the lands themselves.
It's going to break anyways. If we sided with financial and traded all but the oldest colonies without struggle it would still fall, to the very internal strife and administrative neglect that plagued it before and after Avatar Kyoshi. The new territories are decades integrated rather than over a century integrated. It's very morally grey to hand them over to a nation primed to begin falling apart and have it's people fight over them internally should we hand them over, and very strategically foolish to tick off that much of the fire nation military and turn them against the peace by making it personally detrimental for them.
Not only having a bunch of smoldering warlord states at the border and New Territories with an angry majority be bad for long-term stability, it also feels bizarrely evil for a quest where we are (at least nominally) supposed to be helping ensure the first non-evil Fire Lord in a century can get rid of all the fascism without dying;
We are here to support Zuko yes, but not to support him unconditionally, or to support him at great cost to the part of the fire nation we personally hail from. This is a fire nation chancellor quest. It's a lot more than just a help Zuko resolve the war as fast as possible quest or a zuko and us against the corrupt fire nation quest. The voters are actively in the process of voting for it to be more than that.
We've chosen for the race supremacists to be first on the chopping block, but we've also sided with the military, including the previous generation of soldiers who have settled in the new territories with there emigrated families. This is very much not as black and white as the show likes to paint things. This is where our choice thus far have brought us.
It may just be me, but the prospect of playing a character who is actively trying to ensure a genocidal empire gets away with everything basically scot-free (even if meta-knowledge says their doomed to fail) sounds deeply unappealing to me.
We aren't going to be pushing to keep everything. Try to read between the lines a little better. Obviously, reparations need to be paid, and need to be big, where simply aiming to hold onto the territories and offload the burden of reparations elsewhere, like the supremacists coffers. Retain the territories but provide them with wealth, technology, and manpower for reconstruction that will mean more for the citizens rather than for the petty, divided lords above them.
We're not (just) sabotaging the fire nation. We're also giving those who would be unrepresented by eitehr side a voice in the negotiations.
Precisely. There is an entire generation of military and fire nation citizens with lives and families in those territories, who we are becoming an advocate for within the fire nation's court
I more meant because it doesn't include the strategic posture of the army as part of the plan ?
Huh. That's weird. It was before I think. 🤔
@Night_stalker @jwolfe_beta please integrate the following into plan Truth and Contract, in accordance with the voting guidelines outlined by the qm in the post following the most recent threadmark.
[] "They should fall back to positions better suited to sustaining a fighting defense; they should refrain from starting further trouble, but it would be irresponsible of us not to prepare them for it should the Earth Kingdom prove… less than receptive."