After the Ashes: A Fire Nation Chancellor Quest

They have long held that wholesale conquest of the Fire Nation is both infeasible and undesirable, instead advocating for a strategic focus on the most resource-rich areas and key ports,

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They have long held that wholesale conquest of the Earth Kingdom is both infeasible and undesirable, instead advocating for a strategic focus on the most resource-rich areas and key ports,
 
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Scheduled vote count started by Granite on Dec 19, 2024 at 6:02 PM, finished with 113 posts and 42 votes.
 
The old conductor of war
Kazu Amari looked old.

He was one of the few members of the cabinet that Namiko had known of before her ascension into national politics about forty minutes ago. The court had always been rather insular, the broader public having never been permitted an active look into the dynamics of governance in the royal palace, but it was nigh impossible to go about life in the Fire Nation without having heard something of the Old Marshal, the man most responsible for orchestrating the fulfillment of the National Endeavor. While not quite a household name, Kazu Amari had lived long enough to become something of an institution in his own right, tutoring an entire generation of Fire Nation officers in the conduct of war. His service had begun in the second decade of Azulon's rule, nearly sixty years ago, and he had offered much of his life in service to the throne and the man who sat upon it. The Fire Lord had evidently trusted him enough to entrust the Crown Prince to his care, the young and impetuous Iroh having been tempered into a hardbitten and effective commander under the direction of the already-old soldier. The death of Azulon had lessened his public presence, the marshal no longer appearing alongside the Fire Lord during public addresses, though his influence in the army lingered all the same.

It was Amari who had been responsible for the modernization of the Fire Nation's logistics systems: while Sozin had done much to rationalize and centralize the organizational apparatuses of the army, a number of its systems had remained almost distressingly feudal in style prior to Amari's tenure. With the support of the Fire Lord, he had emphasized standardization: equipment and training standards had been the order of the day, allowing the army of the Fire Nation to finally become a truly national endeavor rather than the more regionalized regimental system it had adopted under Sozin. This was combined with the rationalization of industry on the home front, where major industrial leaders were forced to coordinate directly with the newly organized supply corps to provide structured sales at a regular price. His tenure as an officer had seen the transformation of the army into a truly modern fighting force, the hard-fought lessons of the Hundred Years War having finally been implemented into army doctrine, allowing the army to become the force it was truly meant to be.

Kazu Amari was a paramount officer, a man who strode across the earth as a colossus of war, while never forgetting his fealty to the dragon throne; two generations of soldiers had been raised with him as a prime example of what an officer should be. It was through his might that the national endeavor would be fulfilled, and the crumbling edifice of the Earth Kingdom finally toppled to make way for the progress and modernity carried by the children of fire.

It was difficult, though not impossible, to reconcile that legendary figure with the frail old man who sat before her. There was an air of exhaustion about him, though his posture remained straight, and he retained a quiet dignity despite it: his long beard was neatly trimmed, his robes were immaculate, and though his eyes were now long since clouded by cataracts, an ember of flame remained in them as he gazed over at the young colonial woman who sat across the table from him. His gaze carried more curiosity than enmity, the old soldier having held his tongue while the other members of the cabinet bartered and fought for the office of the Chancellor, watching impassively as they dared to bicker and squabble like children before their monarch. His disgust had been well hidden, though she had grown well accustomed to ferreting out such sentiments in the years she'd spent politicking in the colonies; it was evident that he had little respect for the other members of the cabinet, though he voiced none of it as they vacated the room. It did not take long for the two of them to be left alone in the room, dwarfed by the imposing architecture that surrounded them. He did not wait long to speak, his scratchy voice breaking the silence before it had a chance to settle.

"They will not accept you. You must know that."

It was an almost mind-numbingly obvious statement and she bit back the retort that automatically came to her lips, instead forcing a polite smile onto her face as she focused her attention on him.

"I serve at the behest of the Fire Lord, not them, Minister."

The older man chuckles, though it sounds more like a dry wheeze than an expression of joy; his voice is dry when he finally speaks, a hint of grim humor shining through."They detest you for your heritage. Some of them, are for your youth. They view you as an imposition, a degenerate mongrel whore plucked from the colonies by the eunuch and the boffin so they can cling to the coattails of a treacherous usurper for a few moments longer."

Her voice was similarly dry, her words more cautious than amused. "You speak as though those sentiments are not your own."

"I am not a fool, girl; if there wasn't strength in your blood, this war would have been won eighty years ago. Most of them will make the mistake of thinking otherwise, much as Ozai, may he rest in Agni's embrace, did. You would be wise to make use of that while you can. The Fire Lord, Ozai, I mean, always had something of a talent for selecting the most dissolute and debased of the aristocracy as companions… though I suppose you should refrain from underestimating the base cunning they can muster."

She allowed her hackles to fall as she listened to his words, now assured that the old minister was, at least for the moment, not an enemy. This time, she allowed a sliver of amusement into her tone, raising an inquisitive eyebrow as she did. "Callous words, general."

"We owe undying fealty to the Fire Lord while he sits upon the throne; once removed, he is owed only honesty." He paused for a moment, considering her intently, before continuing. "I will offer you the same honesty if you are willing to hear it."

She offered a slight nod; experienced as she was, she knew better than to deny information or advice when offered. Amari was a soldier, not a politician, but he had also maintained a presence in court longer than she'd been alive: it would have been nothing less than abject foolishness to refuse any insights he might have to offer, if simply due to the influence he maintained within the army.

His voice was grim now, carrying an unexpected sort of urgency. "The imperial house is weaker now than it has been at any point in my life; the boy is spirited but he is young, and should he carry through with his ill-considered intentions of ending the war, he will be in grave danger. We are bound to adhere to his wishes, such is the will of Agni, but it is a necessity that we take action to safeguard him from himself when necessary. I did much the same during the reign of his father: Ozai was a… tempestuous man, and there were more than a few times when I was forced to act contrary to his orders to safeguard his interests. Do you understand what I am saying?"

She hesitated for a moment, mulling over the old general's words: they were sensible enough, particularly given the rather vague directive of 'ending the war' that they'd been offered, but there was something about it that rubbed her the wrong way. She'd never been averse to scheming - such was a simple necessity if one wished to survive in the political scene of the old colonies - but this felt like the same kind of court intrigues that she and her fellows had railed against for so long. So, rather than answering his questions, she opted to pose one of her own: "What threats do you foresee, general?"

He scoffed at the question, seeing the deflection for what it was but opting to answer anyway. "Far too many to count, girl… but principally, the Earth Kingdom will accept nothing less than our continental territories. Their pride would demand it, just as our pride demands that they be kept. In most circumstances, I would expect that this would simply lead to a resumption of hostilities, but the boy's associations have me… concerned. He cavorts with that little butcher who calls itself the Avatar and I have little doubt that he would refrain some doing something imminently foolish to secure his desired 'peace.' The generals are good men, loyal men, but any man's devotion will be tested if you take his lands, his coin, and his pride. I will ask again: do you understand what I am saying?"

The anger in his voice was evident, though there was fear there as well now: a dangerous mix, particularly in one so influential, though she could feel a similar sort of dread now that she understood his implication. "You think he would give up the territories?"

His words were hollow. "Not just the territories, girl. The Earth Kingdom has spent the last century fighting to retake the lands liberated by Sozin; given the callousness the Avatar has shown towards our nation, I have little faith in that thing's desire to see us to a righteous resolution, should an end to the endeavor truly be imposed upon us by His Majesty. Be assured that I would be as horrified as you to see Yu Dao reduced to a chained vassal by that petty tyrant in Ba Sing Se."

"Surely… surely such a thing would not occur. The Earth King can demand the return of the colonies but he is in no position to negotiate; our army has had them on the backfoot for decades, and his capitol was occupied by our forces not a month ago." Her voice was strained now, the realization of what tyrannies might be lurking behind the concept of peace proving most unsettling. "They have no position to demand such things; they should be grateful that such mercy is being offered!"

"The court of Ba Sing Se has never been restrained by what is sensible; their generals are potent at times, yes, but their successes come despite the court, not because of it. It seems likely to me that the Avatar will seek to force an end to this war, no matter the cost to the Fire Nation; supposed claims of 'balance' or 'justice' are merely a pretext for the long list of cruelties and indignities that will surely be heaped upon us if the Earth King has his will." The general's voice is quiet still, though it carries all the weight and power of thunder, the tired old man disappearing for a moment as the conquering leader takes his place. "Agni would never wish to see his people reduced to slaves by a foreign power; we must ensure that the Fire Lord understands his duties lie first with his people. The children of fire have spilled much blood to claim this land as their own and our soldiers will not accept having it robbed from beneath their feet by the conniving machinations of a possessed child. Our lord will need good and loyal councilors in the days to come, men and women who understand the weight of their work and the necessity of steering the boy in the right direction. We need peace with honor if there is to be peace at all: otherwise, I must fear that the reign of this Fire Lord will be short indeed!"

Her voice is quiet and measured now, her eyes narrowed as she considered the implications of his words once more. It was evident that his fervor for the dragon throne was genuine, though it was nigh-treasonous to suggest that the Fire Lord might need to be constrained in any way… but were these not times of treason? The Fire Lord who now reigned upon the dragon throne claimed his position through schemes with a foreign power; Agni knows what had happened to his sister, the Crown Princess. It seemed a reasonable enough proposition that the duty of the councilors of the Fire Lord was to protect his interests, even if such protection went against his most immediate desires… though it would almost certainly prove a dangerous route to walk.

"What would you propose, general?"

"A pact, a partnership, whatever you want to call it. I can speak with the generals of the army and the Commander of the Procession; they will be unsettled, but they will listen to me if I promise that their interests will be protected. The domestic forces are not to be trusted, even with that brute Yamaha removed - his kind are rife within their ranks and I have little doubt that he'll be contacting his subordinates soon. I can have two regiments of loyal veterans in the city within days, the Procession should be sufficient to secure us against treachery until then. You will need to convince the Fire Lord to take a… a measured approach to peace. Ensure that the interests of the nation are respected and do not allow him to delude himself into selling our birthright down the river. Together, we can safeguard the early days of the Fire Lord's reign while ensuring that he does not make mistakes even we cannot correct." He paused, offering a mirthless smile. "Is this an acceptable proposition to you, Chancellor?"

She hesitated for only a moment before answering…
  • [] "This is acceptable, general; I will ensure he understands the situation and stress the importance of retaining the territories in these coming days."
  • [] "This is acceptable, general, but you should refrain from bringing soldiers into the capitol: such would make it appear as though we have something to fear."
  • [] "I will not involve myself in this sort of scheming, general; I am a loyal servant of the Fire Lord, I will not indulge such base attempts to scheme against his will."
  • [] Write In

They lapsed into silence after that discussion, the weight of the chancellor's decision sitting upon them. The throne has commanded the absolute loyalty of the army for as long as Namiko has been alive - perhaps even longer, given the reforms of Sozin - but that kind of loyalty only endures if it is reciprocated. The Fire Nation had long maintained a tradition of awarding spoils to its soldiers, ensuring that their heroism and service were properly awarded and recognized with things that mattered more than mere words. If a commander were to take a region, they would often wield a great degree of authority over the officials appointed there, such positions often going to family members under such a time that the officer was able to retire and assume a more direct position of governance over their new holdings. There were some areas that maintained a more structured sort of governance - cities were typically governed by a partnership between a junior officer and an appointed scholar-bureaucrat - but it was typical for large swathes of the countryside to be treated as spoils. These men would typically then distribute lands to their subordinates as a reward for capable service and to ensure the security of their new territories: it was easier to govern conquered lands if you had a strong base of militarized settlers. The traditions surrounding war loot were much the same: while quartermasters would review what was recovered, it was the norm for it to be distributed among the ranks by the discretion of the overall commander of the operation through which it was acquired. Typically speaking, they would retain one-fifth, with one-fifth going to junior officers, and another as tribute to the Fire Lord: the last two-fifths would be split among the ranks, though it was not unknown for greedier officers to simply retain that which was intended for the enlisted, as was their right. Such avarice was typically seen as unvirtuous, however, and would easily lead to a loss of standing among one's peers should rumors of that kind of conduct spread.

This time, it was she who broke the silence, her murmured words sounding all too loud in the barren expanse of the pillared room. "You will need to dispatch a brief to the front. I would imagine that there are dragon hawks being dispatched as we speak, so it is important that we take control of the narrative before anyone else has an opportunity to do so." He eyed her speculatively, evidently curious to see where she would take this line of thought. "And what would you have this dispatch say? The men will need to know what their Fire Lord expects of them."
  • [] "They should pull back from any ongoing engagements and return the men to barracks; our first goal should be to ensure that the Fire Lord's desires for peace are enforced appropriately."
  • [] "They should seek to make whatever gains are possible before a ceasefire is signed. We have a unique opportunity to improve our negotiating position before the idea of peace is set in stone: we must make good use of it."
  • [] "They should fall back to positions better suited to sustaining a fighting defense; they should refrain from starting further trouble, but it would be irresponsible of us not to prepare them for it should the Earth Kingdom prove… less than receptive."
  • [] "We will refrain from offering any particular direction beyond information on the Fire Lord's plans. Such allows them to make their own decisions in the field while shielding us from any direct responsibility."

"Of course, there are matters beyond the broader strategic posture of our forces…" (Choose up to Four)
  • [] Celebrations should be organized to celebrate the rise of Fire Lord Zuko.
  • [] Paraphernalia associated with the previous Fire Lord should be disposed of.
  • [] A freeze on communications between local officers should be implemented.
  • [] Strategic reserves should be used with impunity given the discussion of a ceasefire.
  • [] Executions of prisoners should be halted pending review.
  • [] Looting should cease and discipline imposed upon those who continue.
  • [] The Occupied Lands should be stripped of anything of value.
  • [] The New Territories should be stripped of anything of value.
  • [] Records should be preserved and kept in good order for review.
  • [] Records should be verified to possess nothing that would imply dishonor.
  • [] Write In

The general will offer a slight bow of his head, adopting a more formal tone, his thoughts indiscernible.

"I will see that such is arranged."
 
Hello everyone, sorry for the delay on the chapter, things have been busy with Christmas! Voting moratorium of three hours on this one; as always, let me know if there are any issues. Voting will be structured a bit differently on this one: the first vote, the one relating to his deal, should be voted on freely. The second and third vote, those relating to the strategic posture of the army, should be handled in a plan vote as they directly relate to one another.
 
[] "This is acceptable, general; I will ensure he understands the situation and stress the importance of retaining the territories in these coming days."

I think we need Zuko, and Aang really, to understand the implications of what they're asking. I suspect both have gotten too much impression the Fire Lord is all-powerful from Ozai's example, and they don't truly understand how they are viewed by the power structures.

[] "They should fall back to positions better suited to sustaining a fighting defense; they should refrain from starting further trouble, but it would be irresponsible of us not to prepare them for it should the Earth Kingdom prove… less than receptive."

I think this is probably the best way of keeping them from causing further trouble without provoking more of an immediate backlash.

[] Executions of prisoners should be halted pending review.
[] Looting should cease and discipline imposed upon those who continue.

These seem like sensible requirements to me.
 
We should 100% burn any records saying we did any wrong. :cool: As if the Fire nation would act with anything less than complete honor.

More seriously,

[X] "This is acceptable, general; I will ensure he understands the situation and stress the importance of retaining the territories in these coming days. With the caveat between you and I that we are secretly willing to give up the occupied lands if it will secure the old colonies for the Fire Nation."

[X] "This is acceptable, general; I will ensure he understands the situation and stress the importance of retaining the territories in these coming days. Though, perhaps it would be wiser to only bring a single regiment into Caldera itself, the other hidden but near enough to reinforce. Ultimately, I leave it to your judgement."

This has been my position since day one. We have next to other in the occupied lands and it's all a big half hazard looting pit. The New territories are a bit better but again our position is shaky there as we only have a small colonial population and the majority of people may not want to stay with the Fire Nation. It's the Old Colonies that are a bastion of Fire Nation support and the vast majority see themselves if not as Fire Nation citizens at least are apathetic at worst to rejoining with Ba Sing Se.

[X] "They should fall back to positions better suited to sustaining a fighting defense; they should refrain from starting further trouble, but it would be irresponsible of us not to prepare them for it should the Earth Kingdom prove… less than receptive."

I foresee something akin to something All quiet on the western front with both sides ordering last minute advances. We should be prepared to consolidate.

"Of course, there are matters beyond the broader strategic posture of our forces…" (Choose up to Four)
[X] Celebrations should be organized to celebrate the rise of Fire Lord Zuko.
[X] A freeze on communications between local officers should be implemented.
[X] Executions of prisoners should be halted pending review.
[X] Records should be preserved and kept in good order for review.

Celebrations are to restore a sense of normality and we need to ensure that the disloyal local officers are kept as clueless as possible and can't do a Kyūjō incident. Anyone that Ozai is trying to execute might be someone we have interest in. And Records should be preserved if we have need of them to force old guard and corrupt out of the government and military.

[X] Write In
-[X] "Excellent. The two regiments publicly swearing Loyalty to the Fire Lord will discourage opportunists, and also set him at ease that these troops are for his own protection and do much to help remind him that loyalty flows both ways. Thank you for your support general; I will ensure he understands the situation and stress the importance of retaining the territories in these coming days." (as accepting, but with the Caveat that the troops publicly swear to Serve Zuko, something which will also be of use to remind Zuko that his Troops, who've fought and bled for the fire nation, deserve the rewards they have earned.)
[X]Plan Pausing the frontlines to allow proper negotiations.
[X] Plan: Truth and Contacts
 
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These seem like sensible requirements to me.
I think record-keeping should also be included there. If we want to actually swing retaining the New Territories, let alone any current gains in the Occupied Lands, we'll need to have a clear picture of what all improper conduct our forces can be accused of in exchange for concessions.

Trying to purge them of any inconvenient truths is not likely to yield good results in my view; absent any evidence to the contrary, the Gaang and associates will probably take the Earth Kingdom's word over ours.
 
[] "This is acceptable, general; I will ensure he understands the situation and stress the importance of retaining the territories in these coming days."
This might ruffle Zuko's feathers but (understandably) he's lacking in information about the greater war.

[] "They should fall back to positions better suited to sustaining a fighting defense; they should refrain from starting further trouble, but it would be irresponsible of us not to prepare them for it should the Earth Kingdom prove… less than receptive."
This is very important as when (not if) fighting continues (because the Earth King no doubt has little/no control over his armies at the moment) and Aany throws a fit, we can truthfully say "They started it. We were abiding with the Fire Lord's wishes."

[] Looting should cease and discipline imposed upon those who continue.
[] Records should be preserved and kept in good order for review.
[] Executions of prisoners should be halted pending review.
[] A freeze on communications between local officers should be implemented.

The first three options are more about the colonial regions as we want to retain as much as possible. Ergo showing we are not like Ozai and aren't covering up his actions will help discussions. The last is to keep local commanders from doing anything....unwise.
 
Definitely voting for halting any pending executions. It doesn't even have to just be Ozai ordered ones, it could be Azula ones too, she was not a particularly chipper Fire Lord for the short time she ruled. But we've definitely seen how badly those two could and would treat anyone they wanted. On another level, I think back to the wild choice of Ozai going towards the General who wanted to sacrifice a crap ton of troops that Zuko spoke up about, so maybe even more competent people who thought that the Nation was doing some rather inefficient stuff could be in those cells.

Should also preserve records too, and definitely want to try and fight for the Old Colonies at minimum. I could take or leave the New Colonies.

Also I'm 100% willing to believe someone like General Fong or whatever his name was that thought he could pretend execute the Avatar's friends and then guide him like an angry child nuke is going to try and charge last minute to try and make up for the past 100 years of retreat.
 
[] Looting should cease and discipline imposed upon those who continue.
I think this is a risk as they have been looting for decades and its a major source of income and their pensions
 
[] "This is acceptable, general; I will ensure he understands the situation and stress the importance of retaining the territories in these coming days."

We obviously want to keep our hometown and its peripheries a part of the fire nation(no need to mention and further territories, keeping them is highly doubtful) And more importantly we just got a security in, we have to take it. We literally don't have anything else! The usual suspects that would keep order just got fired.

[] "They should fall back to positions better suited to sustaining a fighting defense; they should refrain from starting further trouble, but it would be irresponsible of us not to prepare them for it should the Earth Kingdom prove… less than receptive."

Let's not antagonize the fire lord and his ̶m̶u̶r̶d̶e̶r̶o̶u̶s̶ ̶ friend the avatar by going on the offensive but also not leave our boys on the ground out to dry.

[] Executions of prisoners should be halted pending review.

Strictly necessary for peace talks nuff said.

[] Records should be preserved and kept in good order for review

Needed to act and plan with precision even if doing so might damage our honour due to... exposing of some over zealous actions taken during the national endeavour.

[] Celebrations should be organized to celebrate the rise of Fire Lord Zuko.
[] Paraphernalia associated with the previous Fire Lord should be disposed of.

Down with the old boss up with the new. Get everybody on the same page on this.
 
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[] "This is acceptable, general; I will ensure he understands the situation and stress the importance of retaining the territories in these coming days. With the caveat between you and I that we are secretly willing to give up the occupied lands and possibly the new territories if it will secure the old colonies for the Fire Nation."

I'd want to push to keep the New Territories. They've at least started being settled. But the Occupied Lands are expendable. Even the new territories in a pinch.
 
[] "This is acceptable, general; I will ensure he understands the situation and stress the importance of retaining the territories in these coming days."
-[] "Though, perhaps it would be wiser to only bring a single regiment into Caldera itself, the other hidden but near enough to reinforce. Ultimately, I leave it to your judgement.

Might want to only bring a single regiment in.

[] "They should fall back to positions better suited to sustaining a fighting defense; they should refrain from starting further trouble, but it would be irresponsible of us not to prepare them for it should the Earth Kingdom prove… less than receptive."
[] A freeze on communications between local officers should be implemented.
Terrible idea. Could lead to days of fighting erupting between local garrisons and earth nation soldiers go unreported if communications with the capitol are also disrupted by subversive elements within the fire nation.
[] Executions of prisoners should be halted pending review.
[] The Occupied Lands should be stripped of anything of value.
[] Records should be verified to possess nothing that would imply dishonor.
[] Contact should be established with collaborating earth kingdom individuals of influence to undermine the earth kings attempts at a unified demand for the territories return

Have a write in option. Otherwise these are my four.
 
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This may be just me, but I think a few people are starting to slip into the mindset of the Fire Nation a bit too much. While the General did have some decent points, he is ultimately one of the major ringleaders of an actively genocidal war against the entire planet at behest of a proto-fascist state, so we may want to take his views with a grain of salt.

If nothing else, destroying records of the nation's war crimes and ravaging the colonial lands out of spite are entirely unacceptable in my opinion.
 
This may be just me, but I think a few people are starting to slip into the mindset of the Fire Nation a bit too much. While the General did have some decent points, he is ultimately one of the major ringleaders of an actively genocidal war against the entire planet at behest of a proto-fascist state, so we may want to take his views with a grain of salt.

If nothing else, destroying records of the nation's war crimes and ravaging the colonial lands out of spite are entirely unacceptable in my opinion.
At the same time, The Earth Kingdom isn't exactly kittens and rainbows. The generals will attack us (or at least make moves) if they think they can and unless the Earth King goes to each of them, they are unlikely to outright obey his orders.
 
This may be just me, but I think a few people are starting to slip into the mindset of the Fire Nation a bit too much. While the General did have some decent points, he is ultimately one of the major ringleaders of an actively genocidal war against the entire planet at behest of a proto-fascist state, so we may want to take his views with a grain of salt.

If nothing else, destroying records of the nation's war crimes and ravaging the colonial lands out of spite are entirely unacceptable in my opinion.

Obviously, the concern here isn't us continuing the war, that's going to end regardless, but if the Fire Lord isn't going to fight for the Fire Nation's interests (at least at first) then IC, our dear chancellor is going to need to do their best to convince Zuko to moderate his own stance.

I mean I think it's been made fairly clear that the general doesn't like the idea of peace, but he's right in saying that if we go full-bore into appeasement, Zuko is going to get couped by the military or other government forces. That outcome is completely unacceptable, and should be prevented at all costs, hence fighting tooth and nail on the Fire Nation's behalf in this circumstance. A coup would doom the fire nation to an even worse outcome when it comes to a peace, and would likely end in death on a mass scale, as the Fire Nation combusts on itself Nazi Germany style.
 
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Just to check. The New Territories are the lands inmediately next to the Old Colonies, and the Occupied Lands are on the other border of the NTs, bordering the Earth Kingdom, correct?
Mhm!
The Old Colonies are majority colonial, with a sizable earthfolk minority, and a small firefolk minority.
The New Territories are majority earthfolk, with a sizable firefolk minority, and a small colonial minority.
The Occupied Lands are majority earthfolk, with a very small firefolk minority.
The Old Colonies are extremely developed and are essentially a peer to the homeland in terms of economic productivity and industrialization.
The New Territories operate as a number of extremely profitable settler/extraction colonies that are mostly run by former soldiers and officers.
The Occupied Lands are areas where the military still governs directly and are essentially treated like personal fiefs/playgrounds for garrison officers.

[] "This is acceptable, general; I will ensure he understands the situation and stress the importance of retaining the territories in these coming days. With the caveat between you and I that we are secretly willing to give up the occupied lands and possibly the new territories if it will secure the old colonies for the Fire Nation."
As a slight note: he is specifically aiming for a partnership to maintain the territorial integrity of the Fire Nation at its current extent as well as the stability of imperial rule across the nation as a whole. There is maybe more latitude with the Occupied Lands, but the New Territories have largely been carved up and distributed to soldiers and officers, while the occupied lands have been promised but are still generally in flux.
 
I'm tempted to have us say "I won't be a pawn in a coup", but I don't want to alienate the general just yet, so I'm willing to vote to just keep the troops out of Caldera for now.

As for the troops overseas, I'm willing to order them to defensive positions before we declare "cease all hostilities, await further orders".
 
  • [] "This is acceptable, general; I will ensure he understands the situation and stress the importance of retaining the territories in these coming days."
  • [] "This is acceptable, general, but you should refrain from bringing soldiers into the capitol: such would make it appear as though we have something to fear.
  • [] Write In

  • [] "They should fall back to positions better suited to sustaining a fighting defense; they should refrain from starting further trouble, but it would be irresponsible of us not to prepare them for it should the Earth Kingdom prove… less than receptive."

  • [] Celebrations should be organized to celebrate the rise of Fire Lord Zuko.
  • [] Paraphernalia associated with the previous Fire Lord should be disposed of.
  • [] Executions of prisoners should be halted pending review.
  • [] Looting should cease and discipline imposed upon those who continue.
  • [] Records should be preserved and kept in good order for review.
Namiko's general strategic aim is to perpetuate the power of the colonial elite within the colonies and whatever society they end up a part. At the moment it appears to her that this is best done by keeping them within the Fire Nation's empire, but depending on what opportunities arise it could also be done by securing autonomy (within the Fire Nation or Earth Kingdom empires) or independence. In no event can it be done in the context of a collapsing Fire Nation metropole. That would lose Namiko her position, and lose the colonial elite a trustworthy negotiating partner—it would even make a bid for colonial independence dicey, as a resurgent Earth Kingdom would meet little resistance. That means preserving the Fire Lord upon whom our position depends. That being the case, I do want loyal soldiers near at hand to prevent a coup by the domestic forces or national societies or both (this was the whole point of talking to Amari to begin with) and will support any plank which gets us them.

That said, the military itself is not to be trusted not to do a coup, and the large formations abroad should be kept both under control and too busy to intervene.

I'm not overly fussed about preserving the positions of those lately in power, and am happy to both signal that the new regime is serious about being new and to preserve records of incriminating war conduct for use against our enemies in future.
 
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[] A freeze on communications between local officers should be implemented.

So uh how effectively can this be implemented? I'm worried this will raise alarm bells and make people start sending their own runners/hawks anyways.
 
At the same time, The Earth Kingdom isn't exactly kittens and rainbows. The generals will attack us (or at least make moves) if they think they can and unless the Earth King goes to each of them, they are unlikely to outright obey his orders.
After Azula's coup, are the generals likely to obey his orders at all if Toph or Aang aren't there to keep them in line? The earth kingdom is a nation built on a mix of personal strength and to a lesser degree lineage. Being subverted twice greatly weakens his authority. Honestly the generals themselves may have trouble reigning in troops at this point.

If nothing else, destroying records of the nation's war crimes and ravaging the colonial lands out of spite are entirely unacceptable in my opinion.
Alright we can avoid ravaging the occupied territories, but we aren't so much destroying records as we are creatively copying them. They'll still exist, they'll be just less provocatively war crime ish in terms of wording, with failure to properly interpret there orders falling on the officer in command.
This may be just me, but I think a few people are starting to slip into the mindset of the Fire Nation a bit too much. While the General did have some decent points, he is ultimately one of the major ringleaders of an actively genocidal war against the entire planet at behest of a proto-fascist state, so we may want to take his views with a grain of salt.
Or maybe we might want to take the role model of two generations of fire nation soldiers as a decent representative of the average fire nation soldier mindset.

It would also do well to remember that we are both a fire nation citizen who was shocked at the "National Endeavor" being ended and as a colonial uninterested in surrendering our place of birth to the miss governance of the avatar's puppet earth king.
That being the case, I do want loyal soldiers near at hand to prevent a coup by the domestic forces or national societies or both (this was the whole point of talking to Amari to begin with) and will support any plank which gets us them.
I'd suggest my write in which suggests bringing two regiments but hiding one outside Caldera.


That would lose Namiko her position, and lose the colonial elite a trustworthy negotiating partner—it would even make a bid for colonial independence dicey, as a resurgent Earth Kingdom would meet little resistance.
I don't think independence is going to be on the table for a long time. There simply isn't enough of an identity as independent of both the fire nation and earth kingdom that would impede either from subverting an attempt at Independence with propaganda in all but the oldest settlements. We need another generation, at minimum. At best we can lay the foundation.

I'm not overly fussed about preserving the positions of those lately in power, and am happy to both signal that the new regime is serious about being new and to preserve records of incriminating war conduct for use against our enemies in future.
Incriminating war conduct is liable to weaken arguments for retaining the colonies. To be frank, this ludicrous approach of choosing to spend our creation vote aligning with the military only to treat them as an enemy to take down later is rather foolish. Like it or not by siding with the military we are making our bed politically, and it would be best not to shit in it in the process.
[] A freeze on communications between local officers should be implemented.

So uh how effectively can this be implemented? I'm worried this will raise alarm bells and make people start sending their own runners/hawks anyways.
Somewhat effectively. The bigger issue is it creates the vulnerability to groups being completely cut off, or faking being completely cut off, and multiple day battles being carried out with us left completely in the dark that anything is happening. It's a huge risk.
 
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Aside from liberator Iroh, I don't think any member of the royal family is welcome in Ba Sing Se, given Azula's actions and her giving Zuko credit. It's going to be a few years before the war reparations are sufficiently being payed reliably for that to be an option.
Oh, crud, thought I had replied to this .

The second-to-last scene of the last episode of the series is Zuko serving tea at Iroh's tea shop.
 
It is unfortunate that a large number of Ozai's minions are likely to commit treason. On the other hand, there are large numbers of loyal, patriotic soldiers who deserve rewards, and compensation for any land we take from them. How fortunate of Ozai's cronies to volunteer their wealth to the cause.
 
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