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I just realized this isn't even technically true we did analyze part of it though that isn't much better I guess.
A Stranger in a War-Torn Galaxy: A Supreme Commander/WH40k Quest
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It was not in fact going to happen no matter what. This was just a supremely bad move.
Undead-Spaceman
Skeleton Supreme
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A bit abrupt but sometimes you just need to cut things off in order to have a more manageable piece.
Looking forward to the next quest!
Looking forward to the next quest!
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I figured out the reason why we might have not thought it was a big deal.
[]Clad's Node Data 1/? AP
Clad has given you what they claim to be a copy of their entire research data on the node. You don't know how to open it yet, but this is the least of your worries
Not trying to assign blame just explain the thought process. Also I might have read into this too literally.
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That did not mean the whole node is the least of your worries, just that not knowing how to actually read the magnetic tapes the data was stored on was the least of your worries compared the the node actually existing.
F0lkL0re
Officially not an Inquisitor
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- Shetland
Revy: "I WANTED TO BUT THEN THE PLOT INTERFERED!"
Being slightly more serious I don't think he quite comprehends how many demands on Revy's time there were or how bad things are in the Imperium (being fair though nether does Revy) or that Nids trying to eat your face or local spaces main manufacturing hub tends to be a bit distracting.
Also the fact that the hub had seemingly gone several thousand years with out doing anything evil probably contributed to our complacency with regards to the node data.
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If only people knew I hid goodies in plot hooks 😔
Undead-Spaceman
Skeleton Supreme
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- Somewhere in Orbit
I mean given the choice between "research thing to advance plot" and "people are being eaten alive by giant bugs rights now" it kinda skews people's prioritization skills.
By this point of the time-line the memoirs of Ciaphas Cain have already been published right? I wonder what Revy would think if she read them.
Entirely fair. One should never be afraid to change formats if the old one isn't working. I look forward to seeing you continue when you feel ready.
As to the events of the chapter… very hopeful, and about as expected. Revy is the Shield of the Coalition. A commander with few equals. But she is very much a field commander and her strategic decision making is accurately simulated by a comity of armchair generals.
Frankly it is a miracle we managed as few critical errors as we did.
By the sound of it the Coalition will probably be able to send individuals, but not many and not quickly. Heavy machinery is right out. At least in the short term. But data can be sent easily so all the R&D can be shipped home. They might even manage to come up with a protofabricatable Knight Titan in a usable time frame. One can dream...
Hard to demote someone from a rank they never had. Shepard's rank might be called general by her actual responsibilities are equivalent to a modern colonel: the senior most officer actually on the battlefield. Her job is to win the fight she is in, not plan which fights should be started.
She has shown she (as directed by the votes) isn't ready to be promoted multiple ranks up to high command. But there is no shame in sinking a bit the first time you are dropped far out of your depth with no support.
Matter of priority. It is the job of the President and the Supreme Commander to worry about the long term threats, of which QAI is the biggest they know of. It is the job of a field Commander to care about the local people dying right now. The QAI node was never an immediate problem so it was never the priority.
Price of writing a quest rather than a story. Things are never going to go the way you want/expect them to when other people get a say.
FunkyEntropy
Occasionally insightful, possibly grumpy
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I mean, on the one hand an active QAI is a huge threat and Hall is right to put that as a top priority. But, and here's the thing...this one is dormant (ish). To the best of Shepard's knowledge this thing has slept for a thousand years and there's nothing to suggest that that will change in the immediate future. After all, slumbering AIs awakening only when the protagonist shows up is something that happens in movies and video games, not real life 
1) QAI is dormant and therefore not a high priority short term.
2) Saving human lives is always a priority.
3) Retreval/reinforcement short term is unlikely, ergo establishing a power base and not getting in a shooting war with the local humans is a priority.
So Shepard could have made a fairly solid argument that Hall was out of line and shouldn't micromanage the person with boots on the ground.
1) QAI is dormant and therefore not a high priority short term.
2) Saving human lives is always a priority.
3) Retreval/reinforcement short term is unlikely, ergo establishing a power base and not getting in a shooting war with the local humans is a priority.
So Shepard could have made a fairly solid argument that Hall was out of line and shouldn't micromanage the person with boots on the ground.
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Eh, she did a good job being in command of a greater ACU force and what Laurent said was probably true. Had the Imperium just rolled over and put her in charge she would have done much better, problem was that they would never done that.
Its a pretty bad connection, it will work, just need time.
You can expect her to have used all these three in that argument and got nowhere with that. With these rebuttals
1) This node is inactive. Have you checked if Clad founds others? No.
2) No
3) Shepard, all we wanted you was look at that data.
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Undead-Spaceman
Skeleton Supreme
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To add on to this: QAI as a threat is kinda nebulous. I get the vibe most participants of this quest aren't as familiar with Supcom as they are with 40K so they hear about the rogue AI from Supcom and may not really grasp how dangerous that's supposed to be especially with the lack of any opposing giant robot armies wandering around. There's no real sense of urgency to it either besides Revy being kinda concerned about it. Combined with the active threat of murder locusts from space, the upcoming tussle with zombie robots, and being stuck in the backyard of an institutionaly backwards paranoid bag-of-cats dictatorship; AP hell just meant nebulous plot stuff gets shoved to the wayside while we make breathing room.I mean, on the one hand an active QAI is a huge threat and Hall is right to put that as a top priority. But, and here's the thing...this one is dormant (ish). To the best of Shepard's knowledge this thing has slept for a thousand years and there's nothing to suggest that that will change in the immediate future. After all, slumbering AIs awakening only when the protagonist shows up is something that happens in movies and video games, not real life
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Yeah, I agree. She absolutely needed to get a black eye from not pursuing QAI at all. She has first-hand experiences with how much of a Bad News QAI is. Getting onto working terms with the Imperials and saving lives were both extremely important, to be sure. But she is a General for the UEF, not the Imperium. She had the duty to put the UEF's Boogeymen above the Imperials. At least getting a basic idea of what was going on there for threat evaluation was the least she should have done.
VicSage
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Looking on the upside, an sACU! That's a major step forward. Considering the imminent timeskip, I'd hope for at least two others, but other than the sisters we don't have anyone that level of trustworthy yet, and I probably wouldn't have even trusted them or Eliza.
I hope the king survives, he's a decent fellow.
I hope the king survives, he's a decent fellow.
we are not entirely demoted here. we retain military command and will probably do the actual planning and talking- simply because Laurent isn't really here. we do lose the freedom to plan the broad strokes of political moves, but I find it hard to believe Laurent won't at least listen to us or let us plan some of the smaller details. as for the operational and strategic plans, I am pretty sure Laurent will hear what we have to say there given we had high accomplishments on that front.
and it also sounds like a temporary matter? like, prove you can get back to your senses and till then you are under supervision? it doesn't sound like an actual demotion, more a warning
and it also sounds like a temporary matter? like, prove you can get back to your senses and till then you are under supervision? it doesn't sound like an actual demotion, more a warning
BoSPaladin
The Paladin
this
Yes we should have looked at it. But great. What do you drop? Shepherd ran herself ragged trying to put out fires, suffered injuries and brain damage. And had all kinds of stuff going on.
Plus, the fact that the QAI has not woken up yet, kinda proves the point that the AI that slept for 10,000 years wasn't likely to wake up any time soon.
They have a point. But action crunch is real.
TheLurker
Random Omnipotent Lazy-As-Fuck Being
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In the opinion of the command staff?
That whole thing where we decided to focus on killing tyranids and saving human lives. That was a lower priority than the fact that QAI is here.
VicSage
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Looking at it from the point of nations, which care about interests more than good deeds, QAI is a much larger threat to both sides even in an inactive state. We've confirmed it was active, that it is possibly the reason behind the machine uprising, and that it transferred universes. Of every threat we know of, it is the only one capable of the third, and that makes it a concrete threat, as opposed to the abstract of the other powers of the 41st millenium. It's a mutual threat to both of them, and if it did it once, it probably did it elsewhere. The logic chain makes sense.
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Thank you for an amazing quest BOTcommander, the characters the pacing, everything is top tier. Can't wait to see what's next 👍 fantastic job
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There might be two little epilouge scenes. Luna pondering the node data and Lizzy and Sena reacting to Luna's existence. But to summarize: QAI fucking yoinked you to this universe and the Node components were manufactured by Canophes Industries dated to like 15k years ago, Canophes being, if you remember, the planet the Orks are currently having their mini-Octarius on.
Lizzy and Sena are not happy.
Lizzy and Sena are not happy.