Dien Bravo had been a shattered mote, less the true Surgeon than a single flake of its dermis; young as she was, the Maiden had come against him in full. Likely it was hubris to think he could overwhelm the Foremost unaided, much as he wished her cut down by his own hand. Now Hunger's strength flagged from grotesque exertion in the Praxis, the weight of his wounds only compounding that fatigue.
This was where I had the most fun - thinking about how Dien could use his one Implement to terrifying effect while Hunger & co rode around in Versch + Nova without even thinking about Noncombat uses. It's like using the Death Star to drive your kids to school. It can accomplish the task, but it is kind of missing the point.
This was where I had the most fun - thinking about how Dien could use his one Implement to terrifying effect while Hunger & co rode around in Versch + Nova without even thinking about Noncombat uses. It's like using the Death Star to drive your kids to school. It can accomplish the task, but it is kind of missing the point.
Honestly, I'm not sure I agree with Hungers assessment here. If a full Foremost is this weak they can hardly claim the title in any broader context. They're still limited by the ISH, even.
Sure, she's strong compared to her verse, she strong compared to Hunger, but she isn't Foremost by any stretch of the term, not in her broader setting.Let's be sane about things, please. For all that the ISH promotes a dizzying, unthinkable ascent to realms of power beyond any human comprehension, the Maiden is strong. She's stronger than Seram, even now, and despite his lack of curses, he's still closer to the average than Hunger ever will be.
Some settings that I would say aren't at multiverse level, for fun (I will count universal tho)I do think the next work, if and when it comes, will likely be lower power level than this one! But that's not exactly saying much...
This is like saying The Nameless Yong cannot truly be Nameless because his name would be trivial to discover by one at the highest level. It's not relevant to us! It never will be! Certainly, they were bold with their name, but I can't bring myself to disparage them for it, not when that same spirit of boldness, the will to challenge a herald of the End of Stories is the reason the Maiden is currently beating Hunger's ass.Sure, she's strong compared to her verse, she strong compared to Hunger, but she isn't Foremost by any stretch of the term, not in her broader setting.
Like, imagine knowing about the Accursed and calling yourself Foremost. It's kind of pitiful. I guess they could be Foremost in some obscure field, but the title really doesn't fit, imho.
I think that Hubris is an important component in the characters we've seen (Surgeon + Maiden) but I don't agree that comparing the A-dawg makes them pathetic. Haeliel is the embodiment of Heroism even tho Accursed is pursuing A Quest of much greater import, for exampleSure, she's strong compared to her verse, she strong compared to Hunger, but she isn't Foremost by any stretch of the term, not in her broader setting.
Like, imagine knowing about the Accursed and calling yourself Foremost. It's kind of pitiful. I guess they could be Foremost in some obscure field, but the title really doesn't fit, imho.
I'll admit I voted my fair share for going off the deep end, but I always had an unrealistic amount of faith in Hunger, he's so damn cool that he even makes me think his dumb name is cool, it's insane!AST Noir - Vote DEATH or Die Trying - 2200 words
I hate this season. The weather sucks up all the slime and filth in the streets and pours it back down on ya. But then, that's what this city's all about. Name's Humphrey , private eye. I've spent my life in this concrete merry-go-round watching the same votes play out year after year, like a jukebox with only one, sad song. It's a city with no one to trust, and no one to love, where cigarette butts are the only ass you get.
Nameless isn't making a claim to power or excellence with his name. He also doesn't seem to have much knowledge of the broader setting, so as far as he knows he is pretty much the strongest being he'll ever meet. If he called himself the strongest I wouldn't mind.This is like saying The Nameless Yong cannot truly be Nameless because his name would be trivial to discover by one at the highest level. It's not relevant to us! It never will be! Certainly, they were bold with their name, but I can't bring myself to disparage them for it, not when that same spirit of boldness, the will to challenge a herald of the End of Stories is the reason the Maiden is currently beating Hunger's ass.
It isn't that they don't measure up to the Accursed, no one does. It's that they don't measure up to a while ladder of beings -- a whole Procession of beings even, if the Forebear was anything to go by.I think that Hubris is an important component in the characters we've seen (Surgeon + Maiden) but I don't agree that comparing the A-dawg makes them pathetic. Haeliel is the embodiment of Heroism even tho Accursed is pursuing A Quest of much greater import, for example
Nameless isn't making a claim to power or excellence with his name. He also doesn't seem to have much knowledge of the broader setting, so as far as he knows he is pretty much the strongest being he'll ever meet. If he called himself the strongest I wouldn't mind.
The Foremost, however, are making a claim, not only to excellence but to supremacy. They are saying they are better than, not merely excellent or powerful, or virtuous, but better than you and better than anyone. At the same time they do seem to know about beings tremendously more capable than themselves. They know they aren't Foremost.
The ISH isn't even that big of a deal. We already knew about it, we just didn't have a coherent unit of measurement for it. It's technobabble, it's plot armor, it's the author conveniently forgetting their own exposition when it comes in handy. It's narrative shorthand for power beyond our ability to understand, but not to contextualize. It's the black box with Schrodinger's undead cat inside.Let's be sane about things, please. For all that the ISH promotes a dizzying, unthinkable ascent to realms of power beyond any human comprehension, the Maiden is strong. She's stronger than Seram, even now, and despite his lack of curses, he's still closer to the average than Hunger ever will be.