Nobody seems interested in buying votes this round. Perhaps, like me, everyone else considers this low-stakes?

I think plenty of people are enjoying this update. It's just that, unlike you, they don't feel the need to repeatedly tell the thread exactly how much they are or are not enjoying the update.

Alright, that was funny enough that my disappointment is mollified somewhat. Leave it to Rihaku to make even the boring option somewhat entertaining.
While the update was very fun, I don't find myself invested in this vote at all. Hopefully this is not a sign of the gigantic drop in thread participation that I was worried about.
I warned ya'll the thread would be running slower if we took this route. Also I haven't even been reading the politics posts, just skimming past them. It's pretty fortunate I happened to run into the idea of fan-made Imaginary Elements, which has caused like 2k words of Surgecraft stuff so far and I'm not done yet. If it hadn't been for that I might just have disappeared from the thread.
I still don't care much about politics so... Vote selling time! Anyone willing to make me an offer?
 
/shrug.jpg

Well, I suppose I do have an offer, if there is such burning interest in the vote economy.

Just this once anyone who wants it, can write "Prospalz, I give away my soul my vote with no right of veto in exchange for completely nothing" while tagging me.

This is a rare opportunity. 25 Arete equivalent. You should pursue it.
 
Nobody seems interested in buying votes this round. Perhaps, like me, everyone else considers this low-stakes?
when None looked like it was viable, I was going to use up to 3 markers to block it. Maybe 5

The remaining choices...I'm willing, but reluctant, to sell my vote.

I've got 1/5 of the wordcount for this update, and 1/4 of the wordcount since starting this round of Errantry.

To get me to flip to Admin, I'd need 2 markers I don't already have in my signature. To get me to switch to Traditionalist, I'd need 3.

Like... nobody here seems passionate enough to pay my prices so i'll just wait until the winning coalition is inevitably betrayed
 
SeraToday at 9:20 PM
A Simple Transaction I Original

Sufficient Velocity
A Simple Transaction I Original
A quest about a simple transaction and the consequences that follow.​


[9:20 PM]
who wants to invest
[9:20 PM]
in my Vote Trading pay day lender scheme
[9:21 PM]
im going to impoverish the AST community br preying on it's most vulnerable


[9:21 PM]
i am told thats a very viable buisness model


ProspalzToday at 9:21 PM
Whoever is interested should consider my offer as well, I suppose.

DarkSideBardToday at 9:21 PM
Two votes for me that I pay interest on???

ProjectileToday at 9:21 PM
Wait, how... hm. Wow, if you don't pay that off quick you literally can't get out of debt.

[9:22 PM]
You monster

SeraToday at 9:22 PM
yes DSB



SeraToday at 9:24 PM


[9:24 PM]
I feel like not being allowed to do this


[9:24 PM]
should also be in the constition



ProspalzToday at 9:24 PM
I feel like arete-generating discussion in discord

[9:24 PM]
Should be outlawed

DarkSideBardToday at 9:25 PM
By who

[9:25 PM]
discord?

MicrowaveToday at 9:25 PM
I'd agree

NEW
ProspalzToday at 9:25 PM
/ an incredibly subtle hint to post stuff in thred
 
MicrowaveToday at 9:25 PM
But sometimes things can be both shitposty and relevant

SeraToday at 9:25 PM

A Simple Transaction I Original

A quest about a simple transaction and the consequences that follow.
Sufficient Velocity
A Simple Transaction I Original
A quest about a simple transaction and the consequences that follow.


ProspalzToday at 9:26 PM
Clearly, a superior solution
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Didn't we generate like 100k words in this discord? Just reposti all

SeraToday at 9:27 PM
yeah
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everytime someone tells me to take soemthign to the thread
[9:27 PM]
i just c/p the discord conversation
NEW

ProspalzToday at 9:27 PM
Take this to the thread, too

ProjectileToday at 9:28 PM
tbh that's a good idea, even if the intentions are partially sarcastic

Message #general

I am a river unto my people.
 
Unethical proposal: establish a national religion worshipping Hunger for the Rank gainz
 
Unethical proposal: establish a national religion worshipping Hunger for the Rank gainz

I wonder if like, Hunger told them to worship the Accursed too, if it would work or if it would bounce of his brand of the wretched? Would it start triggering HIS apoc curse if we named him the countries spiritual liege or something?
 
Anyone want me to make them a magic system/soul evocation/imaginary element? I'm kind of out of motivation for art at the moment, so I'm down to write some BLURBS for the Arete gods
If you're still doing these, I'm curious what you'd make of Wyrmspite. If not, no worries.
holy duck was recreating that shot from Whisper of the Heart meticulous af
Everything about this is great, from the Ghibli reference to the Evening Earbuds. Imagine how much more popular studying constitutional law would be if we had portraits of James Madison looking like that.

The index has also been updated. Do ping or tag me if anything's missing, I found another Surge and vote analysis on my second pass starting with On the Crown.
 
If you're still doing these, I'm curious what you'd make of Wyrmspite. If not, no worries.

Everything about this is great, especially the Evening Earbuds. Imagine how much more popular studying constitutional law would be if we had portraits of James Madison looking like that.

The Sov's history books are going to read like Light Novel plots in a hundred years if Hunger lets ppl know the shit he's been up too with any detail.
 
Or maybe a vote-trading scheme with Rank. It's a simple transaction. Loan Hunger's high Rank for an important moment, and have them trickle their own Rank back for the rest of eternity. /evil

Hey, given ordinal works for everyone, maybe we could seek it out, get to oathsworn or have Gisena do it, then I bet we could carry out this scheme. Oathsworn doesn't work on magic, but Rank counts as innate non magical ability, and it even lets you trade vitalism stuff so I think it should work!
 
I wonder if like, Hunger told them to worship the Accursed too, if it would work or if it would bounce of his brand of the wretched? Would it start triggering HIS apoc curse if we named him the countries spiritual liege or something?
Scale he's at, I bet they'd fall through the cracks. If we built for it we could probably turn organized religion into a mitigation battery though.

Maybe the Ring? If it falls under Sky, our chance of pulling it off are low. Our Panoply slots are actually rather limited, but an Ankh might do it. Elixir would put Sorcery into the right ballpark too. The spring water itself might be a viable holy place then. But we're not really equipped for granting miracles any more than ruling a nation, are we?
 
Scale he's at, I bet they'd fall through the cracks. If we built for it we could probably turn organized religion into a mitigation battery though.

Maybe the Ring? If it falls under Sky, our chance of pulling it off are low. Our Panoply slots are actually rather limited, but an Ankh might do it. Elixir would put Sorcery into the right ballpark too. The spring water itself might be a viable holy place then. But we're not really equipped for granting miracles any more than ruling a nation, are we?
Edeldross graces have a physical structure: budget miracles could be accomplished just by offering pilgrims 24 hours of +90% to all stats. Those with an appetite for success will be rewarded by Lord Hunger with the power needed to accomplish their goals

Theocracies are good and easy to rule :V
 
I think that the purpose of the Geas of Indenture is to undo all the Heroes the Accursed made.

Maybe long ago the Accursed thought that the way Exalted Exaltations worked was pretty cool, but could be improved. So he reworked the multiverse such that anywhere where there is suffering a Hero can arise. Said heroes are backed by fate, gain absurd power appropriate for their world/universe very quickly, and tend to be actually heroic. See both AST stories and EFB for examples of heroes. Or in other words, Heroes are Exalted 2.0, better because they're universal, not dependent on limited quantities of Exaltations, and allow the Hero to power up using magics and powers found locally.

Well some people didn't like this, so they cast the Geas of Indenture which forces the Accursed/Cursebearers to spend all day running around killing all the heroes he made. Conquering is a bit less obvious but I'd imagine that constantly warring to create empires, ruling for a bit, then abandoning them is the exact opposite of the good governence the Accursed was going for.
Oh, good thought! That would explain quite a lot, really. Anyway, back to politics.
You haven't advocated for any such heinous policies, but the principle of government non-interference in personal relationships is one that I think merits vigorous defense at every opportunity.
Ah, so that's why you don't seem to be much engaging with me - you're busy hashing out an argument with something you associate me with!
I think the instinct to keep doing that is one that must be resisted, which is why this post is much shorter than it otherwise would have been. Anyway, here are points that seem like probable disagreements between real-me and real-you:
It is illegal (and immoral) to coerce someone to sign a contract: there is no societal gain associated with singling out sexual transactions as inherently different from other kinds.
Even with as full consent as humanly possible, I believe all forms of sex-as-payment instead of sex-as-investment or sex-as-communication are not good for humans or ontologically similar minds! On either end. There are too many bonding mechanisms attached to sex, for that to ever be healthy.
The argument here is that parents are adults, and have the absolute discretion over who they associate with.
By this logic, adults in power always have the right to turn a blind eye to those in need. Is this justice? It is not. Does this serve a higher ideal than justice? I don't see one...
If the child is a minor, then the adoptive parents have veto power over any proposed meeting.
Why on earth should the adopted parents be able to deny that meeting? There are far too many real-world cases of white parents 'adopting' black children, and fighting really hard to keep their (loving, but poor) parents from ever seeing them again. It's really awful!
It is cruel to insist, as often happens in the US, that victims of rape share custody with their rapist.
You should know "right to a relationship with" is not the same as "should be in custody of"! Please don't conflate the two!
It is similarly cruel to insist that a survivor maintain a relationship with the child resulting from their assault.
Hm. That one's a genuine edge case. I'd probably say the child can demand one meeting when they come of age? It's not like it's a thing where safety concerns can't trump it, just that they need to be reasonably convincing.

I think that's all. You seem like a generally reasonable person, who I would like to be friends with.
 
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Hunger's coronation was, at his vehement insistence, a plain and unadorned affair, the ceremony itself taking no longer than fifteen minutes atop the carven-flat peak of Elixir Mount. Without room to host the crowds seeking attendance, it was displayed via holocaster drone to the overspilling hordes below. His crown itself was a band of grey platinum adorned by a single well-cut diamond. In contrast, Gisena's accession as Princess Regent was as full of pomp and circumstance as a fairy daydream; her tiara of misted silver glittering with jewels like frozen starlight. Pale white, lilac, amethyst and azure, like a constellation brought to heel they shined furiously atop her brow.

"Let's hope this doesn't inflate your ego as grandly as it did the ceremony budget," he murmured as he finished crowning her.

"But I thought that already reached its maximum size?" Gisena blinked innocently at him.

He scoffed, seating himself back on his - throne. "Just look at all this. You never know when things might proceed beyond, and further beyond, all reasonable expectation."

"Maybe if you aren't a genius!" She smirked cheerfully. "I enchanted this one myself. All shall love me and despair!"

"Yes, I'm sure you'll be a wonderful role model for aspiring oppressors everywhere."

"I exist to serve. Such is the duty of a Princess Regent!"
 
"Maybe if you aren't a genius!" She smirked cheerfully. "I enchanted this one myself. All shall love me and despair!"
Enchanting, eh? Is this an example of findross-based crafting? We know from Seram's story that the Manifest Realm has its own idiosyncratic form of artifice, likely involving inducing Coalescence in objects, and Gisena did mention something about dresses back in the Temple. Also, she's apparently read or seen the Lord of the Rings, so maybe it's endured as a cultural touchstone alongside Neuron Genesis Cathedrelion. That or Hunger somehow retained it and made the reference, but there's no way he'd hand her ammunition.

The third and most likely explanation is that the Ring of Time's been telling her stories, just as it did for Sten. I would ask where she found the time to listen, but that's less of an issue for the Azure's Ringbearer... Anyway, the Aurelia parallels are strong here and Gisena's antics continue to be exasperating. Can we afford to waste time on frivolous festivities? I suppose it does help cement the party's image in the Sovereignty's cultural consciousness, making a spectacle of the coronation that'll become legendary for future generations.
 
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