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A Play of Blood and Shot

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ByzantineCaesar said:
Not even the Rhoynar are exempt from the Seven's judgment, my friend. I ask for another name.
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And the Seven are altogether accepting of polygamy, concubine and sodomy, and a dozen other practices of the Rhoynar. That aside, am I to take it that Your Grace disconsiders your vassals who hold to other gods? It has been a long time since the Faith was a majority religion in Dorne.
 
Velasco said:
And the Seven are altogether accepting of polygamy, concubine and sodomy, and a dozen other practices of the Rhoynar. That aside, am I to take it that Your Grace disconsiders your vassals who hold to other gods? It has been a long time since the Faith was a majority religion in Dorne.
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Of course not, Gatwick, though I am guided by the light of the Seven myself, as you well know, and I will not have such a sinner speaking with my name and authority in a conference such as this. Will you send another man to advise my delegation on Dornish interests in the matter?
 
ByzantineCaesar said:
Of course not, Gatwick, though I am guided by the light of the Seven myself, as you well know, and I will not have such a sinner speaking with my name and authority in a conference such as this. Will you send another man to advise my delegation on Dornish interests in the matter?
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It is by the light of the Seven that the Dornish practice their own rite of the Faith - we have the paper work to prove it. But very well, I shall send someone, though I am hard pressed to imagine a suitably virtuous Dornishman or woman who would meet with your approval and speak adequately on my behalf.​
 
Velasco said:


It is by the light of the Seven that the Dornish practice their own rite of the Faith - we have the paper work to prove it. But very well, I shall send someone, though I am hard pressed to imagine a suitably virtuous Dornishman or woman who would meet with your approval and speak adequately on my behalf.​
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Prince Tywin, perhaps?
 
To the warriors of the freehold
From Qohor

Remember Qohor will always fight for you and your families. What the Senate wont provide Qohor will fight to provide you.

To: The Senate
From: Qohor

You cowards, moves like this is why we didn't end this threat in the last war. Every man who has died this war and will die now is blood on your hands.

*in a closed chamber*

You pen pushing morons. My proposal to Braavos was part of a simple negotiating strategy. Propose two options, one over the top and one reasonable with a limited time frame of availability. The tactic would have caused trouble amongst their populace, rally our troops, bring them to the negotiating table or force peace and the acceptance of the more modest proposal I suggested.

Once again you incompetent fools have cost The Freehold dearly in a time of war. What could have been peace is now guaranteed years of war, I was honest when I said the coming carnage is as much your fault now as it would have been is you slit the throats of our warriors your self. I would have thought this level of incompetence would had to have been a result of a Braavosi conspiracy If you hadn't done such similar moronic things before.

Let the adults deal with the business of war and stop undermining the Freehold war effort.
 
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Atomicwalrus said:
To the warriors of the freehold
From Qohor

Remember Qohor will always fight for you and your families. What the Senate wont provide Qohor will fight to provide you.

To: The Senate
From: Qohor

You cowards, moves like this is why we didn't end this threat in the last war. Every man who has died this war and will die now is blood on your hands.

*in a closed chamber*

You pen pushing morons. My proposal to Braavos was part of a simple negotiating strategy. Propose two options, one over the top and one reasonable with a limited time frame of availability. The tactic would have caused trouble amongst their populace, rally our troops, bring them to the negotiating table or force peace and the acceptance of the more modest proposal I suggested.

Once again you incompetent fools have cost The Freehold dearly in a time of war. What could have been peace is now guaranteed years of war, I was honest when I said the coming carnage is as much your fault now as it would have been is you slit the throats of our warriors your self. I would have thought this level of incompetence would had to have been a result of a Braavosi conspiracy If you hadn't done such similar moronic things before.

Let the adults deal with the business of war and stop undermining the Freehold war effort.
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OOC: Are you seriously going to tongue-lash the people who have just reprimanded you for making overly half-cocked statements and have full legislative authority over you?
 
Ceslas said:
OOC: Are you seriously going to tongue-lash the people who have just reprimanded you for making overly half-cocked statements and have full legislative authority over you?
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You bet your ass I am. Someone needs to tell the Senate to pull their head in. The proposal has not been submitted to the Senate for a vote yet, no post has been made in the senate thread. The offer hasn't officially been made. This needed to be dealt with on the Senate floor, either IC in the Senate thread or by PM before their proclamation was made. What's happened here is a motion by one of Qohor's Senators was voted on, decided and announcements made seemingly without the motion actually being made or the Senator being present.

The Senate has over stepped their authority. The Senate have intervened in war business yet again, and have cocked up the business of waging war yet again. They deserve a tongue-lashing, they constantly act like morons. If they followed procedure this could have all been avoided, we would have had merchants in the Vale and Braavos rethinking their support for the war, enemy soldiers seriously reconsidering what they are fighting for, our soldiers moral fired up knowing that if the war dragged on and they die their families would be cared for and a ticking clock on a reasonable peace treaty. Instead our position of strength has been all but eroded because yet again the senate have made a decision without consulting the war makers.
 
Atomicwalrus said:
You bet your ass I am. Someone needs to tell the Senate to pull their head in. The proposal has not been submitted to the Senate for a vote yet, no post has been made in the senate thread. The offer hasn't officially been made. This needed to be dealt with on the Senate floor, either IC in the Senate thread or by PM before their proclamation was made. What's happened here is a motion by one of Qohor's Senators was voted on, decided and announcements made seemingly without the motion actually being made or the Senator being present.

The Senate has over stepped their authority. The Senate have intervened in war business yet again, and have cocked up the business of waging war yet again. They deserve a tongue-lashing, they constantly act like morons. If they followed procedure this could have all been avoided, we would have had merchants in the Vale and Braavos rethinking their support for the war, enemy soldiers seriously reconsidering what they are fighting for, our soldiers moral fired up knowing that if the war dragged on and they die their families would be cared for and a ticking clock on a reasonable peace treaty. Instead our position of strength has been all but eroded because yet again the senate have made a decision without consulting the war makers.
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That is not the implication I got from your remarks. You told the Senate and every city in the Freehold what you wanted. And what you wanted was so insane the Senate refused to be a potted plant and let you flush the war down the tubes with a deal that was more than execution than a treaty. And you seriously think that after all that yelling is going to suddenly think you are reasonable? I... genuinely can't figure out your plan is unless it's secretly an attempt to make Qohor persona non grata in the Freehold. If you go ahead with this I will tell right now that the Senate is not going to be cowed by your remarks. If anything you will encourage them to dig in their heels as the censure clearly didn't work and Qohor has temporarily lost its mind. Now I'm giving you a chance to calm down, understand that nothing good will come of this, and turn away from it. I strongly suggest you take it.
 
Ceslas said:
That is not the implication I got from your remarks. You told the Senate and every city in the Freehold what you wanted. And what you wanted was so insane the Senate refused to be a potted plant and let you flush the war down the tubes with a deal that was more than execution than a treaty. And you seriously think that after all that yelling is going to suddenly think you are reasonable? I... genuinely can't figure out your plan is unless it's secretly an attempt to make Qohor persona non grata in the Freehold. If you go ahead with this I will tell right now that the Senate is not going to be cowed by your remarks. If anything you will encourage them to dig in their heels as the censure clearly didn't work and Qohor has temporarily lost its mind. Now I'm giving you a chance to calm down, understand that nothing good will come of this, and turn away from it. I strongly suggest you take it.
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Your implication was wrong i don't know what else to say. The first post said, this is what I will have the Senate vote on, the second said before a vote was cast. All happened before a vote in the Senate was made. The Senate has circumvented due process in their proclamation.

All Qohor can be blamed for is perfrct transparency in goverment. What should have happened was:
  • Qohor says what it will do outside the Senate.
  • Qohor puts its proposal to the Senate
  • The Senate has a fit over some clauses
  • Qohor explains a basic tactic of negotiations.
  • Any clauses that need to be ammended are ammended.
  • An official peace is offered
  • In the meantime, we might have received a less insulting peace offer from the West.
Instead what we got was:
  • Qohor says what it will do outside the Senate
  • The Senate goes REEEEEE
  • Qohor calls the Senate out for ignoring due process and in doing so fucked up yet again.
At this point Im not yelling at them to think Im reasonable.

I want the Senate to recognise they have no business in interfering in war, that the Senate cocked up yet again. More importantly I want the populace to recognize blame falls with the incompetent windbags and that the soldiers recognise Qohor's proposal was in their interests and Qohor still loves them.

I think this whole debacle is a symptom of how the Senate is treated in this game. Theh are often seem to be treated as a single cowardly moron when they should be a process. The Senate should not have posted first in the IC thread, a similar post should have been made in the Senate thread so Qohor could respond. Instead without it the Senate has seemingly voted on Qohor's proposal before they made it.
 
Atomicwalrus said:
Your implication was wrong i don't know what else to say. The first post said, this is what I will have the Senate vote on, the second said before a vote was cast. All happened before a vote in the Senate was made. The Senate has circumvented due process in their proclamation.

All Qohor can be blamed for is perfrct transparency in goverment. What should have happened was:
  • Qohor says what it will do outside the Senate.
  • Qohor puts its proposal to the Senate
  • The Senate has a fit over some clauses
  • Qohor explains a basic tactic of negotiations.
  • Any clauses that need to be ammended are ammended.
  • An official peace is offered
  • In the meantime, we might have received a less insulting peace offer from the West.
Instead what we got was:
  • Qohor says what it will do outside the Senate
  • The Senate goes REEEEEE
  • Qohor calls the Senate out for ignoring due process and in doing so fucked up yet again.
At this point Im not yelling at them to think Im reasonable.

I want the Senate to recognise they have no business in interfering in war, that the Senate cocked up yet again. More importantly I want the populace to recognize blame falls with the incompetent windbags and that the soldiers recognise Qohor's proposal was in their interests and Qohor still loves them.

I think this whole debacle is a symptom of how the Senate is treated in this game. Theh are often seem to be treated as a single cowardly moron when they should be a process. The Senate should not have posted first in the IC thread, a similar post should have been made in the Senate thread so Qohor could respond. Instead without it the Senate has seemingly voted on Qohor's proposal before they made it.
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Qohor can be blamed for publicly proposing a peace so heinous it basically guaranteed negotiation was impossible and the war would be a war to the death if those terms weren't strangled in their cradle. Now the Senate knew that Pentos was a menace and it had to be stomped on to ensure future peace but it also desired flexibility in case of Westrosi intervention (which now looks very possible by the way.) Permanently barring trade with three cities, enslaving a large group of Pentosi, and tossing around ham-handed terms is not an effective opening offer. The Senate recognized this and told you to cool your jets. And you are calling them morons for keeping you from harming a war that you and Volantis under their authority. You serve the Senate and the Emperor, not the other way around.

The Senate up to this point has been perfectly willing to let you and Volantis run the war as you two saw fit but your actions were such they could not be ignored as they would harm the Freehold going forward. Your proposal was shouted down by the Senate and your publication got you a scolding by the Emperor. Now you could have and still can back away from that, propose a peace that is plausible enough to be an opening offer and let us all move on with our lives. Now that's my last word on this OOC. Make your next IC action.
 
Qarth, 274 AC
3/5
The Grand University of Qarth continues construction. Initial opposition has been eventually overcome with concessions to their demands, including an opt-out option with penalties, and allowing for Merchants of the Houses to send their own children at high prices.
 
Qarth, 274 AC
The Feast of Days
The Feast of Days, hosted by the Merchant Houses, and more recently, the Order of Sun and Moon, was the premier social event of the year in Qarth. Everyone of any importance went to the lavish party held in the Hall of a Thousand Thrones. More recently, Otron Mott, the Warlock who acted as the in-between from the rest of the Queen of Cities and the Warlocks of the House of the Undying, also attended, alongside the rest of the Royal Family. It was one of the few yearly social events they had some sort of freedom, as trying to restrict them there would be like herding cats. However, a guard was constantly at their shoulders and backs, to watch for assassins. Genuinely, in this case, they weren't just to keep the captive Royals in check.

Malek sat next to his tutor, digging into a dish called a "Fruit of Flesh"[Qarthene were bad at naming food], which was essentially a really expensive dumpling. Turning his head, he saw his mentor drinking a blue wine that flowed like honey, and smelled... odd.

He raised an eyebrow.

"Tutor?"

"Yes, Dawntide?"

"What are you drinking?"

He turned to his student.

"It is called Shade-of-Evening. The wine traditionally drunk by the Warlocks."

"I see."

"If you want to try some, you can. As a magic-user taught by me, you might as well qualify."

Malek nodded. Otron poured a vial of the liquid he kept in his coat into an empty glass, and handed it to Malek. Malek picked it up gingerly, and looked at it for a moment. He raised the glass to his mouth, and paused.

Otron spoke.

"Ah, it does have a tendency to... inure the untested. When you drink it, ignore the smell and taste, and swallow. You'll learn why."

Malek raised an eyebrow and drank it in one gulp.

Horror. That was what he felt. The taste....
a slave had dropped a glass plate once, overburdened by the demands of Pureborn nobles who all wanted their meals immediately. They had rushed her away, and the slaves around him had told him not to worry. That day, when he went into the garden alone, he found an alcove that looked out over a lower courtyard in the palace.

He could smell something burning from there. When he had looked, it was the slave from earlier. They were whipping her with a red-hot chain.

He had told no one.

That.... smell, the emotions it inspired... he could see it all again. And then he fought through the pain, and swallowed. He widened his eyes, feeling every taste from this meal and many others flow through his tongue, a thousand sensations that felt like it was reaching into forever.

He put the glass down, looking at it with a twisted, conflicted expression.

"I do not know if I should like it or not."

Otron nodded.

"Most hate it. Few love it. Fewer are unsure. "
 
Pentos - 275​

Name: Principality of Pentos
Ruler: Prince Duncan Monatis
Religion: The Faith
Population: 5,000,000


House of Monatis

Duncan Monatis (b. 221), Prince of Pentos and of Andalos, married to Tara Sunderland (b. 224), Princess of Pentos and of Andalos

Their children:
- Larissa (b. 254)
- Jeyne (b. 257)

His sister, Gwenys Monatis (b. 225), Princess of the Velvet Hills, married to Malcolm Waynwood (b. 225)
-- Joanna (b. 256)
-- Alyssa (b. 260)

His aunt, Septa Tessa Monatis (b. 200)

Events:

- After the large battle against Volantis and its allies, the Grand Army of Pentos has taken several casualties. While the wounded also number in the hundreds. Among those are several of Duncan's relatives, including his goodbrother, Ser Malcolm. As a result of this, Malcolm has been assigned to accompany his wife, Princess Gwenys, to Braavos. Ser Rodrik Monatis, commander of the heavy cavalry and a member of the junior branch of the House of Monatis, was seriously wounded in the battle. He is replaced by Ser Gareth, commander of the royal guard, who aside from commanding the heavy cavalry, is made second in command of the field army.

- Prince Duncan has decided to withdraw most of the occupying forces in Lorath. As not only are those forces worn out, those who are capable of still serving on the field are needed with the main army. A token force of 500 men will remain on the main island.

- The Prince has also decided to begin rationing throughout Pentos, as most of the farmland has been occupied, or destroyed by the fighting. This also has convinced him that an offensive is necessary to begin liberating some of the farmland, something that his advisors agree on. However, an offensive might be difficult, due to the grand army itself being weakened, along with the army of the Vale, and the Braavosi commanders have argued against any general offensives. Still, Prince Duncan has realized something needs to be done to improve the overall strategic situation.

Military

Army: 12,400 total
- 9,000 Infantry
- 800 Heavy cavalry
- 600 Light cavalry

- 2,000 infantry of the city watch

- 200 men of the royal guard

Navy: 104 warships
- 74 galleys
- 15 dromonds
- 15 carracks
 
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Mortis Nuntius said:
To: The Freehold Senate, individual cities of the Freehold and Westeros
From: The Alliance

This pointless war of aggression on your part has cost countless lies and brought nothing but shame and misery upon the institution you claim to uphold. Still in the interest of peace the Noble Free Men of Braavos, the most pious Prince of Pentos and the Honourable Lord of the Vale of Arryn off you these most generous terms.

Pentos shall be allowed to leave the Freehold and henceforth owe no taxes, debts, dues or allegiance to that body of cities. A free and independent city with all the lands, titles and rights associated with it at present and in the past.

Long suffering Lorath shall be protected by the Faith with its economic interests looked to by Braavos to ensure its bright and prosperous future.

The Vale, Pentos and Braavos shall henceforth enjoy reductions in tariffs with the freehold.

Volantis as a sign of its good faith and acceptance of the necessities of peace shall not be permitted to maintain a fleet North of Lys.
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