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A Matter of Worth (Worm/Mighty Thor, alt-power, DEAD)

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TheLurker said:
Dragon, MAYBE legend (big maybe), maybe golem, i would bet mouse protector
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Dragon, Legend and Golem are all debatable, but MP lacks canon characterization. Her fanon persona would likely be worthy, but since that's merely fanon, she doesn't count.

Unless the author says she does.
 
Also flechette might be able to. (God that's a scary thought.)
 
TheUnicorn said:
Thanks. So like Superman he simply has every superpower ever. I trust this story will give Taylor a more limited powerset.
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Thor has the standard powers of a GOD. Because he is one. He specializes in certain areas, but that doesn't mean he lost all ability outside of those areas.

arromdee said:
That only makes sense if you are using the rule "you are worthy if you don't subjugate anything too close to your own intelligence, so the smarter you are the smarter the things you can subjugate", with a sliding scale. Why wouldn't the rule instead be set to an absolute scale? You can only be worthy if you don't subjugate beings smarter than chimps, period, no matter how smart you are. Why should the entities get to subjugate smarter beings just because they are smarter themselves?
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Because by that standard, Thor himself would not be worthy to lift the hammer.

TheLurker said:
Also flechette might be able to. (God that's a scary thought.)
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That would be redundant. It might even be a downgrade to the hammer.
 
Gindjurra said:
Thor has the standard powers of a GOD. Because he is one. He specializes in certain areas, but that doesn't mean he lost all ability outside of those areas.
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More exactly, Thor is an ASGARDIAN. He is on par with all the existing pantheons of Marvel. However, in their own definition, they no longer have the sheer scale of True Gods. They can have an influence in their portfolio, but, for example Odin is no longer capable to create Earth from the bones of Ymir.;)

No mistakes, they are extremely powerful (Thor managed to go toe to toe against ONE celestial), but they don't have the sheer SCALE of a god and they don't receive energy from prayers, nor are they able to hear them.:whistle:

Gindjurra said:
Because by that standard, Thor himself would not be worthy to lift the hammer.
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Correct, the concept of "worthyness" was never truly explained in Marvel, but going by example, Taylor Hebert pre-skitter and post-Khepri is as worthy as Captain America and the Marvel Thor. Both are true heroes willing to make the personal sacrifice and completely behind protecting Earth and Humanity. (the cap is well the the Captain, Marvel Thor is the direct son of Odin and the Goddess of Earth).:cool:

Gindjurra said:
That would be redundant. It might even be a downgrade to the hammer.
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Well... i would say yes and no.:confused:

Mjolnir was NEVER truly equaled in the entire Marvel universe (besides Stormbreaker, its copy and the shield of Marvel Captain America).:D

However, even being a magical weapon and able to break through the dimensional protections of the Endbringers and Zion, the Sting would greatly help Mjolnir.:evil:
 
Gindjurra said:
Because by that standard, Thor himself would not be worthy to lift the hammer.
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When has Thor subjugated beings that are smarter than chimps, and which weren't hurting anyone? (While having his current personality, that is--he might have hurt people thousands of years ago, but I have no trouble believing he wasn't worthy thousands of years ago.)
 
Again, I don't think anyone with a shard based power will be able to pick it up, even if they would be worthy under different circumstances. Odin doesn't trust them because of their 'infliction' since the parasites play with the hosts mind.

Baran3 said:
However, even being a magical weapon and able to break through the dimensional protections of the Endbringers and Zion, the Sting would greatly help Mjolnir.:evil:
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That'd be like sticking lubricant on teflon.
 
ScottotheUnwise said:
Well this Mjolnir (Mj-JANE-er?) specifically says "She who is worthy" so unless Theo is going under the knife soon, not so much. ;)
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In Marvel vs. DC, Wonder Woman picked it up when it said "he", and didn't change sex. So it shouldn't be a problem in the other direction either.

Also, Jane originally got the hammer in a What If. She stayed female, and I don't think the hammer text changed there either.

shinkicker444 said:
Again, I don't think anyone with a shard based power will be able to pick it up, even if they would be worthy under different circumstances. Odin doesn't trust them because of their 'infliction' since the parasites play with the hosts mind.
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Legend has a Cauldron power. Those don't play with the mind.
 
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Baran3 said:
However, even being a magical weapon and able to break through the dimensional protections of the Endbringers and Zion, the Sting would greatly help Mjolnir.:evil:
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Thor can sense dimensional barriers and break through them, and Mjolnir has broken through them in order to return to his hand. Seriously, Thor has alot of crazy feats, Mjolnir probably wouldn't even need Sting's assistance.

Clockblocker: "BUUUULLSSSHIITT!!"
 
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I'm hoping sníkjudýr/sníkjudar is a google translate goof. The second word (without any strange dots) translates more or less as "greedy jews" in Swedish. I wouldn't have noticed it if the second spelling hadn't been in the text. That coupled with equaling that to parasites sends some unfortunate connotations to me. Apart from that this story seems to have promise, I love how Thor!Taylor's having trouble with everyone jumping to conclusions.

edit!: Google translate + spelling error did it. My fault for not factoring in that the language should have been Icelandic.
 
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Sting and Mjolnir discussion:

If Sting gave any benefit at all it would be automatic dimension pierce and probably make the holes it makes stay open.

Uh, that's to say Mjolnir could lay the beat down on Scion, but it wouldn't let the BFG do it.
 
King_of_Pontus said:
While I too love Marvel, I feel you are overestimating thor's powers.

Brute 7-8 might be applicable (Alexandria was 8 and she is more durable than thor) though in strength you may be correct (though again I think hulk beats thor in this so probably still an 8)
Blaster 5-8 Is an option, Thor's lightning while powerful, is not capable of destroying cities.
Thor doesn't have a striker rating, his/her hammer is brute.
Shaker 6-8 for the weather control. (Mainly cos it can be called down anytime, anywhere)

So still an extremely powerful grab-bag cape, but she can still be defeated under the right circumstances by other capes.
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I think you are underestimating her powers. If you wanna nerf her powers like they've done to Superman so much that I just can't stand the character anymore. Just say so but a god? And if I hear two gods have a demi god my head is going to blow off!

It would make more sense to just have her grow into her powers instead of making her underpowered if not for the sake of the story?
 
Thor's power depends on what comic your reading for instance there was one part where he survived an explosion of a ship so large that is was said by Beta Ray Bill to hold a small Solar System inside, so Thor is capable of surviving planet level explosions.
 
arromdee said:
When has Thor subjugated beings that are smarter than chimps, and which weren't hurting anyone? (While having his current personality, that is--he might have hurt people thousands of years ago, but I have no trouble believing he wasn't worthy thousands of years ago.)
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I direct your attention to the snippet Taylor read in the story about Thor and murdering a dwarf by burning him alive. And Thor had the hammer then.

shinkicker444 said:
It still comes from an entity.
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Taken by force of arms is different than being a servant of an Entity.
 
Gindjurra said:
I direct your attention to the snippet Taylor read in the story about Thor and murdering a dwarf by burning him alive. And Thor had the hammer then.
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I would conclude that either the standards for worthiness have changed, or that myth didn't happen as written (for instance, there are theories that "Litr" could refer to a giant or a natural spirit. )

The relative intellectual capacity and power of Asgardians and dwarves is a pretty small gap. It certainly isn't as big a gap as that between Entity and human, so the example proves too much. If this example was real, then frost giants who kill or enslave Asgardians, or mutants who kill himans, or any smart human who enslaves a dumb human, would all be worthy, and they obviously are not if this is anything like the comics.
 
Gindjurra said:
The ratings in Worm aren't power levels. They're threat ratings. A highly creative cape with a mean streak who can turn a spot the size of a quarter any color they want would have a higher blaster rating than an absolute pacifist who can core out a mountain.
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Thats bullshit. People can change attitudes remarkably fast, you can have a pacifist one day and a rampaging murderer the next. The government won't give a fuck about your personality when they index your power.

They would give a huge threat rating to the pacifist and then have a note saying not to provoke, or that he is a known pacifist.they would still have plans to launch a missile at him.

For the other guy they would give a shitty rating and then move it up one or two depending on how creative he was, like how skitter went from master 7 to 8 (maybe not cannon).

One visit from a Jack Slash type and you have a blaster capable of ending cities in one shot. That is not a good time to be surprised and without plans to kill him.
 
Didn't Murd3r Rat happen some time between Taylor's trigger and Leviathan?

I always found a sufficiently hammy hero a good excuse to buttrefly that away and get the fanon Mouse Protector as mentor in Ham (and cheese)

Anywaysm back to topic at hand. This story is sufficiently amusing so far. Aside from the Traditional Taylor Torture Time during school hours.

Watched.
 
...Alright, everyone.

I know this is going to sound crazy...

but just hear me out.





Imagine Greg with the hammer.
 
Brandon Hume said:
Well, that's... upsetting. Yes, it's google translate, but English "parasites" to Icelandic. Maybe sníkill/sníkjur would be better?
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That works. The Icelandic translation's actually completely harmless now that I've had a chance to look things up but reading that misspelling gave me as a Swede second thoughts. I'm not sure but the same might go for Norwegians/Danes as well since our languages are that close to each other. Icelandic is that language we listen to and think "Why can't I understand any of this when it sounds like I ought to?" It sometimes feels a lot like this.
 
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