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A Matter of Worth (Worm/Mighty Thor, alt-power, DEAD)

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Gindjurra said:
The ratings in Worm aren't power levels. They're threat ratings. A highly creative cape with a mean streak who can turn a spot the size of a quarter any color they want would have a higher blaster rating than an absolute pacifist who can core out a mountain.
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...I didn't say anything about the ratings being power levels. I know that it is for threat-rating, and I still say that they are too low.
 
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The Empire and Nazis in general are in for a hard time because they don't really worship odin.
Not sure he care if they do or not.
But the False worship getting it completely wrong and using it as an excuse to beat up the weak is going to piss him off.
Having people who claim to worship you seen as violent stupid ugly bullys is not going to do his ego much good :o

So the empire are no longer a criminal gang and have dedicated thmselves to doing good deeds while dressing well what the hell did you do Taylor.
" I didn't do anything but they may had a religious and learned to fear a god"
" dont you mean fear god"
" no it was a very specefic god they pissed off"
 
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Numen said:
I feel pity for the inevitable Gesselchaft cape that's actually named Thor.

Nazi Thor: Hey! I am Thor, you can't use that name.
Taylor Thor: Is that so, doth thee dispute my claim? *knocks him out* aaaand I won the dispute. Any complaints?
Arsmaster: This is a breach of cape etiquette....
Taylor Thor: *pulverizes the skull of Nazi Thor* and now I am the only Thor.
Armsmaster: Y-you murderor!
Taylor Thor: Nay, that's Odin's domain.
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Naaa, she'd just beat him up until he agreed that his head was so thore that she could be Thor.
 
Brandon Hume said:
I wouldn't be so sure. The Destroyer has lifted Mjolnir before... "one weapon lifting another".
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arromdee said:
A machine can move Mjollnir. A human with a forklift could do it. Leviathan could just use a wave instead; we don't think of a wave as a machine, but it's just as inorganic as a forklift. It's still heavy even if you use a machine, but I think Leviathan could manage it.

That also assumes that Leviathan himself doesn't count as a machine. Are endbringers constructs?
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shade argost said:
I think late hulk can lift Mjolnir, the one where Hulk and Banner are fused together rather than two entities in the same body.
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The Thor i am refering is exclusively the comic-book version of Marvel.:rolleyes:

The film Destroyer shouldn't have been capable of lifting Mjolnir.:(

However, Mjolnir could and have been deflected by some super-villains (generally through forcefields, another legendary weapon or space-manipulation).;)

A machine (anykind) could move Mjolnir, provided it was with its bearer and that the circumstances behind the activation weren't malicious.:p

However, ANY machine used with the goal of lifting and taking away the hammer from its bearer failed. I remember a high-tech crane breaking while trying to do that.:D

The Hulk lifting Mjolnir was a continuity error.:rolleyes:

I repeat, on a conceptual level the unworthy CANNOT lift/use Mjolnir. It's Odin-level Magical Bullshit. The Hammer Mjolnir was forged from the Uru metal by the Dwarves, but it was Odin who gave it its power.:)

Apart Captain America, another who could was the alien warrior Beta Ray Bill and Odin made another hammer with all the power of Mjolnir just for him (Stormbreaker).:cool:
 
Older-than-Time said:
No, we have two versions:
EDIT: Claiming the fanon characterization is the best because its the only one available is worse.
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Myth's have plenty to draw us in substance, they are stories created over time that cannot be confirmed and might not be true; but people talk about them anyway because they make good stories and they want them to be true. Heck several people consider a Myth to be very old fanon. A myth is not Thor had a Hammer, drank mead and died in battle. It is a whole fleshed out story of Thor god of thunder.

We have the nonexistent choice which consists of a name, power set and one or two details and we have a single consistent fanon that hangs together and is what nearly everyone thinks of when they hear the name mouse protector. The author didn't give a myth he gave an OC that has a name. There is no Canon character to use. So when someone uses the name mouse protector people think of the fanon version because it is the only version. I will also state that the only version is by default the best version.
 
kitsune9 said:
Myth's have plenty to draw us in substance, they are stories created over time that cannot be confirmed and might not be true; but people talk about them anyway because they make good stories and they want them to be true. Heck several people consider a Myth to be very old fanon. A myth is not Thor had a Hammer, drank mead and died in battle. It is a whole fleshed out story of Thor god of thunder.

We have the nonexistent choice which consists of a name, power set and one or two details and we have a single consistent fanon that hangs together and is what nearly everyone thinks of when they hear the name mouse protector. The author didn't give a myth he gave an OC that has a name. There is no Canon character to use. So when someone uses the name mouse protector people think of the fanon version because it is the only version. I will also state that the only version is by default the best version.
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Yeah no, that's not how that works. The default version is always the canon version. You're free to make up what you want for fanfiction, but claiming your version is better is just arrogant.

It's irrelevant anyway because she's half of Murder Rat at this point.
 
I would say its somewhere in the middle, where the canon is the baseline, fanon fills in gaps in exposition and headcanon adds the finer details. That's how collective consciousness of characters functions to a degree.
 
Is Mouse Protector a part of Murder Rat at this point?

Taylor's now Thor, but it's happening in early canon. It's possible that Bonesaw hasn't stitched the two together yet.
 
Ellf said:
Is Mouse Protector a part of Murder Rat at this point?

Taylor's now Thor, but it's happening in early canon. It's possible that Bonesaw hasn't stitched the two together yet.
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No, its a few months or so too soon.

She's still around hamming it up and driving Ravager to the point of insanity.
 
KindaLazy said:
Yeah no, that's not how that works. The default version is always the canon version. You're free to make up what you want for fanfiction, but claiming your version is better is just arrogant.

It's irrelevant anyway because she's half of Murder Rat at this point.
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I'm not claiming it's better I'm saying it's the only one that's been fleshed out. I also specifically said that it was fanon. I did not in any way claim that the views were canon. If you have such a problem with fanon you can always go reread the original novel.

Fanon exists because the majority of the audience decided that they do not like something or wish to flesh out a specific part of an area that was not shown by the author and got general agreement from the readers. I did not create fanon mouse protector I merely wanted them to acknowledge that unless the specific author writing that fanfiction decided differently, that fanon mouse protector is the version of mouse protector that people will think of first.
 
Loki has no concept of "shame", and is driven primarily by amusement. He's the original troll; the archetypical god of mischief, but he's got enough honor that once he realizes something's gone awry, he'll generally try to fix it. At least so long as Thor is around to complain about it.

He also enjoys slumming it on Earth. In short, yes -- Aisha could be Loki, who caught wind of the current goings-on some time ago and decided to insert himself into the story. Well... herself, at present.

Loki doesn't care.

And yeah, Loki has basically the same personality as canon Aisha. Lisa? Lisa is a very different person.
 
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Loving this so far for a big pile of reasons (longpost later, on my phone now), but I especially like the way Mjolnir works like it did in older Thor comics, physically transforming Donald Blake from a slight doctor who walks with a cane to THE MIGHTY THOR, complete with wild changes to his speech pattern.

I'm already getting some great Constellations-esque vibes, from both the mythological component and the tone thus far. This new power very clearly didn't make all of Taylor's problems go away, nor should it, but the world is that much more hopeful for their presence.
 
arromdee said:
A machine can move Mjollnir. A human with a forklift could do it. Leviathan could just use a wave instead; we don't think of a wave as a machine, but it's just as inorganic as a forklift. It's still heavy even if you use a machine, but I think Leviathan could manage it.

That also assumes that Leviathan himself doesn't count as a machine. Are endbringers constructs?
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Kemayo said:
"Elevator's not worthy".
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There is a big problem with that idea the one I don't think it has ever been tested if you point out a scene where Thor is using an elevator while holding the hammer it is mute because Thor is holding the hammer. Also, the elevator isn't lifting the hammer it lifts the spot the hammer is resting. The important thing being that hammer still hasn't being picked. If Leviathan tried to move it with waves the hammer, the hammer just remain fixed in place.
 
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