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A Lion's Pride (Closed Quest / ASOIAF)

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    • Cxjenious said:
    So many potentially worthy waifus... brain... overload...
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    This one's for you! :p

    Okay, minions. Tywin, your lord father, will be choosing whom you marry. However, I know how much you LOVE your waifus, so as a kind and benevolent dictator, I will offer you some input. Choose one of the regions below, and papa Tywin will choose your betrothed from the winning group. This is a VERY IMPORTANT decision going forward. Betrothals are an absolute bitch to break. Choose wisely. (In the spoiler tags are the associated waifus for a region. Tywin only takes the best!)

    [] Crownlands
    Elaena Targaryen (275)
    -A princess of Targaryen and Dornish blood
    -Her beauty is expected to be greater than any Targaryen before her
    -Though still very young, she has exhibited a strange and worrying disposition
    Aemma Velaryon (266)
    -Lovely Valyrian features
    -A very wealthy family due to her father's voyages
    -Dreams of traveling the Far East as the Sea Snake did
    Elena Darklyn (267)
    -Ties to the wealthy House Darklyn of Duskendale
    -Sister to King Aerys' bastard son Daeron Waters
    -As clever and ambitious as her mother
    [] The North
    Lyanna Stark (266)
    -The eldest daughter of Winterfell
    -Supposedly very beautiful and willful
    -Rumored to be accompanied by a direwolf
    Marian Stark (267)
    -A notoriously wild and willful girl
    -Rumored to have bitten off a dude's nose once for getting handsy
    -'Wolf's Blood' runs strong in her
    Larra Manderly (267)
    -The eldest daughter of White Harbor
    -Father is from distant North but a very wealthy man
    -A charming and courteous girl
    [] The Riverlands
    Catelyn Tully (264)
    -The eldest daughter of Hoster Tully of Riverrun
    -A beautiful and intelligent maid who has cared for her siblings since her mother's death
    Lysa Tully (266)
    -The second daughter of House Tully
    -Closer in age than her older sister
    -Sweet and plain
    Betha Blackwood (269)
    -A daughter of Raventree named for her great-aunt the queen
    -Sweet mannered but surprisingly ambitious
    [] The Vale
    Sharra Arryn (266)
    -The eldest daughter of Lord Jon Arryn
    -Twin to Godric Arryn, healthier of Lord Jon's sons
    -A well-mannered and beautiful woman with Arryn features
    Kylie Waynwood (266)
    -Niece to Jon Arryn and a daughter of House Arryn
    -Very beautiful and very charming
    -Perhaps a bit funnier than Sharra
    Andrea Royce (276)
    -A decade younger than Jaime
    -As heiress to Runestone your second son might rule as Lord Royce
    -A charming and pretty girl with promises of becoming a true beauty
    [] The Westerlands
    Audrey Crakehall (266)
    -Daughter to a loyal bannerman of House Lannister
    -A confident woman from a bloodline known for its strength
    Cerenna Marbrand (268)
    -Daughter to a loyal bannerman of House Lannister
    -Sister to your friend Addam Marbrand and as kind and well-mannered as the rest of her family
    Mariah Brax (267)
    -Daughter to a loyal bannerman of House Lannister
    -House Brax is strong, with ties to both the Riverlands and West
    Jeyne Farman (266)
    -Daughter to a loyal bannerman of House Lannister
    -A close friend to your sister Cersei
    -Obscenely fertile. Like in canon she had 12 kids so expect a +30 bonus on childbirth rolls.
    Leonella Lefford (267)
    -Daughter to a loyal bannerman of House Lannister
    -Twin sister to Leo Lefford, heir to the Golden Tooth
    -One of the richer families of the Westerlands, which is saying something
    [] The Reach
    Janna Tyrell (262)
    -Daughter of Houses Tyrell and Redwyne, two of the richest in Westeros
    -Brings an alliance with the Reach and all the power that it holds
    -Several years older than Jaime
    -D Cups minimum
    Aelinor Hightower (273)
    -Extremely beautiful and from a seemingly perfect family
    -Several years younger than Jaime
    -Ties to House Hightower of Oldtown
    Myranda Tarly (266)
    -Sister to the greatest military mind in Westeros
    -A bit intense at times
    -Won't stop talking about murdering your enemies
    [] The Stormlands
    Ravella Swann (266)
    -Granddaughter to a Baratheon and has inherited their features
    -A sweet and kind-hearted woman who will make a kickass mother
    Fiona Rogers (266)
    -A daughter of House Rogers and niece of House Stark
    -As pretty as her Northern cousins but a bit less willful
    Jocelyn Tarth (267)
    -A granddaughter of Daella Targaryen and Ser Duncan the Tall
    -Has inherited her grandfather's strength and her grandmother's beauty
    -A bit taller than you
    [] Dorne
    Arianne Martell (276)
    -Several years younger than Jaime
    -Ties to House Martell of Sunspear
    -Beautiful and promiscuous both
    Alyse Dayne (266)
    -Ties to House Dayne of Starfall
    -As beautiful as her sister (who is the most beautiful woman in Westeros)
    -Your goodbrother would be Arthur Dayne
    -Do you think he'd give you an autograph?
    Nymella Yronwood (269)
    -Born to the second strongest House in Dorne
    -The Stone Dornish are best Dornish
    -Her family has strong ties in Dorne, the Reach, and the Stormlands

    Yes, I know there is no Ironborn option, and that's because Tywin would rather slit his own wrists than see his heir married to Ironscum. ;)
     
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    • [X] Crownlands

    Fuck ya wolf matez. Princess or bust.

    Does that mean I'll change to the reach if it looks like the Crownlands will lose? Yes, yes it does.
     
    Honestly, I'm flipping between Dorne and The North, because Arianne got a really good Health roll iirc, and Alyse would just be great for the ties to the Daynes.
     
    To head off the god damned bandwagon, I'll just ask what you guys expect from the North? They worship fricken trees. The Starks are overdone. They are culturally, economically, and geographically isolated from the other kingdoms. The leading candidate is Lyanna Stark...

    Whereas, more Southern kingdoms offer much more tangible benefits. The Reach and the Riverlands are neighbors with the former being the second richest kingdom. The Crownlands offer a closer relationship to the Iron Throne. The Vale offers a connection with a region deeply connected with the Seven, and chances at having your heirs directly inherit. Dorne... is well Dorne.[/DEVIL'S_ADVOCATE]
     
    There are very real benefits to allying with the North apart from me howling at the moon. Brandon Stark (our goodbrother if we married Lyanna) would presumably be marrying Catelyn Tully as in canon. This would bind the three regions (West, Rivers, and North) by marriage just as was intended in canon with Lysa being betrothed to Jaime (but less shit). That's a hell of a powerhouse (particularly against the Ironborn, which makes me wonder why nobody tried this in the Age of Heroes).

    There's clearly some shit brewing in the capital with Aerys' second wife being Elia Martell. I'd be willing to bet the Dornish would love for Rhaegar to be out of the picture and Aegon or Viserys to be named heir. Plus there's the bastard born to Lady Darklyn (lol). The situation is not necessarily headed for war yet but it is chaotic.

    As such we're probably better off not tying ourselves to that. The Reach does seem appealing (though marrying an older woman just for her breasts may not be the wisest course of action) but we can establish ties there by attending tournaments and taking a Tyrell and a Hightower as two our squires/companions/bestest friends in the world. The North is notoriously more difficult to win over and the one time they got tied up in a southern war they kicked some serious ass and then executed half of King's Landing for treason.

    A vote for Lyanna is a vote for a Lannister-Stark-Tully alliance with possibilities of winning over others. Rhaegar has two sisters, maybe Cersei could marry Harrold Arryn instead and Jason or Gerold could foster in Highgarden. We need a strong and centralized power base and you don't get stronger than Winterfell or more centralized than the Riverlands.

    Finally, let's actually consider the child Quest-Jaime and Lyanna will produce. We're talking Jon Stormcrown but as our son. The Golden Wolf. The Silver Lion. Goldcrown. AWOOOOOOOOO!
     
    Charcolt said:
    A vote for Lyanna is a vote for a Lannister-Stark-Tully alliance with possibilities of winning over others. Rhaegar has two sisters, maybe Cersei could marry Harrold Arryn instead and Jason or Gerold could foster in Highgarden. We need a strong and centralized power base and you don't get stronger than Winterfell or more centralized than the Riverlands.
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    Especially if Ned and Bobby B grow up as good friends and there's another Stark-Baratheon marriage.

    That alliance is OP as fuck.
     
    Why I'm not torn on any of the other options.

    [] Crownlands
    -Elaena would be nice, but that last comment worries me. Me no touchy targ madness.
    -Elena's ambitiousness worries me almost as much as Elaena's madness.
    -Aemma actually sounds fairly nice, we'd have a 2/3rds chance of getting one of the other two.

    [] The Riverlands
    -Chance of Tullys. 'Nough said.

    [] The Vale
    -Sharra is sickly
    -Andrea is a lot younger than Jaime. Eww.

    [] The Westerlands
    -What exactly is the point?

    [] The Reach
    -The reach'd be good, but the Tarly chick actually manages to scare me with her potential psychopathy.

    [] The Stormlands
    -All of the ones here are actually kind of decent, but...well, they just don't sound interesting.
     
    [X] Crownlands

    I could be persuaded to the Reach, Vale or Dorne, but I think the Crownlands would be our best bet.
     
    [X] The North

    Plan Goldenwolf. I am all for a North-Riverlands,Westerland alliance.

    Also I echo Cteatus view of the Ned and Robert friendship and ties for the alliance. Maybe with little brother Jaime joining the party...
     
    The Reach is the best choice of the bunch if we want Jaime to exert enormous political power. Even Aerys and the Iron Throne would never be so stupid as to challenge us. There is political power and then there is real power, this real power. If people don't want to go for the Reach then go for Catelyn and the Riverlands as it would make us one step removed from leading two regions.

    If neither o those are chosen then marry into our bannerman as no other region is worth anything.
     
    I too tire of the Starks in quests. It's like people didn't bother to read the little notes for each character. Based on those notes, I'm torn between pretty much all the major southern regions; I like the Arryn girls, as well as Catelyn, but then there's pretty Brienne, and the Swan woman who would make a fantastic mother. I'm a bit iffy about the Targaryen girls.

    I'm leaning towards the Vale, but brain overload is real.
     
    [X] Crownlands

    Whoops, forgot I couldn't vote

    Ironically the whitelist doesn't prevent this dumb and flimsily reasoned bandwagoning bullshit @Mazrick, who knew?
     
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    [X] The Vale

    Vale offers us some of the nicest potential mates personalty and appearance-wise, and a considerable chance of inheriting lands.
     
    [X] Crownlands

    Reasoning: Fuck yo Bandwagon
    Reasoning2: I think a Royal marriage would give us increased influence on the King himself... and we are just a couple steps away from being King ourselves.
     
    Charcolt said:
    There are very real benefits to allying with the North apart from me howling at the moon. Brandon Stark (our goodbrother if we married Lyanna) would presumably be marrying Catelyn Tully as in canon. This would bind the three regions (West, Rivers, and North) by marriage just as was intended in canon with Lysa being betrothed to Jaime (but less shit). That's a hell of a powerhouse (particularly against the Ironborn, which makes me wonder why nobody tried this in the Age of Heroes).

    There's clearly some shit brewing in the capital with Aerys' second wife being Elia Martell. I'd be willing to bet the Dornish would love for Rhaegar to be out of the picture and Aegon or Viserys to be named heir. Plus there's the bastard born to Lady Darklyn (lol). The situation is not necessarily headed for war yet but it is chaotic.

    As such we're probably better off not tying ourselves to that. The Reach does seem appealing (though marrying an older woman just for her breasts may not be the wisest course of action) but we can establish ties there by attending tournaments and taking a Tyrell and a Hightower as two our squires/companions/bestest friends in the world. The North is notoriously more difficult to win over and the one time they got tied up in a southern war they kicked some serious ass and then executed half of King's Landing for treason.

    A vote for Lyanna is a vote for a Lannister-Stark-Tully alliance with possibilities of winning over others. Rhaegar has two sisters, maybe Cersei could marry Harrold Arryn instead and Jason or Gerold could foster in Highgarden. We need a strong and centralized power base and you don't get stronger than Winterfell or more centralized than the Riverlands.

    Finally, let's actually consider the child Quest-Jaime and Lyanna will produce. We're talking Jon Stormcrown but as our son. The Golden Wolf. The Silver Lion. Goldcrown. AWOOOOOOOOO!
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    None of the Stark women strike me as having the right stuff to be Lady of the Rock and rule the West in our stead, should we be off doing something or another. Likewise, considering we have brothers, we don't have to marry a Stark to be allied with the North, or to create the alliance. There are enough children between the Lord Paramounts to create alliances twice over.
     
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