A Light from the Shadow (Tolkien CKII)
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[X] I am Morianor, who was once called Durin's Bane. Nienna has shown me my regrets and brought me into her service. I bring news of Moria.
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[X] I am Morianor, who was once called Durin's Bane. Nienna has shown me my regrets and brought me into her service. I bring news of Moria.
No. of Votes: 12
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Artemis1992
DragonParadox
GoukaRyuu
King Arthur
lavanderjasmine
LOLROFL
Oh I am slain!
Professor Vesca
Random Member
Salbazier
Stormseed
[X] "It saddens me yet how even the great are prone to folly. I would know, my mistakes are more terrible than most."
No. of Votes: 7
Terrabrand
Dark Abstraction
Night_stalker
saiman
Satar
Terra Novan
veekie
[X] "It saddens me yet how even the mighty are prone to folly. I would know, my mistakes are more terrible than most."
No. of Votes: 3
Dirk93
godofsmallthings
MaHaL
[X] "I am Morianor, who was once called Durin's Bane. Nienna has shown me my regrets and brought me into her service. I bring news of Moria."
-[X] "It saddens me yet how even the great are prone to folly. I would know, my mistakes are more terrible than most."
No. of Votes: 2
Walkin' Man
durin
[X] "I am Morianor, who was once called Durin's Bane. Nienna has shown me my regrets and brought me into her service. I bring news of Moria."
-[X] "I can see you parents still in your features. Long has it been since I has seen them."
No. of Votes: 2
JaceAoT
UbeOne
[X] I am here to parley, any who wish not to treat with me may begone this place for I am mighty and I shall parley where I stand.
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Optimist Prone
[X] "It saddens me yet how even the great are prone to folly. I would know, my mistakes are more terrible than most."
[X]"It seems your people still suffer from the same bane: Hubris.
No. of Votes: 1
néocorvinus
[X] "I am Morianor, who was once called Durin's Bane. Nienna has shown me my regrets and brought me into her service. I bring news of Moria."
-[x] "I can see your parents still in your features. Long has it been since I has seen them."
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avatar11792
[X] "I am Morianor, who was once called Durin's Bane. Nienna has shown me my regrets and brought me into her service. I bring news of Moria."
-[X] "I can see you parents still in your features. Long has it been since I has seen them."
--[X] "It saddens me yet how even the great are prone to folly. I would know, my mistakes are more terrible than most."
No. of Votes: 1
prince84
[X] "I am Morianor, who was once called Durin's Bane. Nienna has shown me my regrets and brought me into her service. I bring news of Moria."
-[X] "I can see your parents still in your features. Long has it been since I have seen them."
No. of Votes: 1
Ozimantus
Total No. of Voters: 31
Ok vote closed I'll see what I can do
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[X] I am Morianor, who was once called Durin's Bane. Nienna has shown me my regrets and brought me into her service. I bring news of Moria.
No. of Votes: 12
kelllogo
Artemis1992
DragonParadox
GoukaRyuu
King Arthur
lavanderjasmine
LOLROFL
Oh I am slain!
Professor Vesca
Random Member
Salbazier
Stormseed
[X] "It saddens me yet how even the great are prone to folly. I would know, my mistakes are more terrible than most."
No. of Votes: 7
Terrabrand
Dark Abstraction
Night_stalker
saiman
Satar
Terra Novan
veekie
[X] "It saddens me yet how even the mighty are prone to folly. I would know, my mistakes are more terrible than most."
No. of Votes: 3
Dirk93
godofsmallthings
MaHaL
[X] "I am Morianor, who was once called Durin's Bane. Nienna has shown me my regrets and brought me into her service. I bring news of Moria."
-[X] "It saddens me yet how even the great are prone to folly. I would know, my mistakes are more terrible than most."
No. of Votes: 2
Walkin' Man
durin
[X] "I am Morianor, who was once called Durin's Bane. Nienna has shown me my regrets and brought me into her service. I bring news of Moria."
-[X] "I can see you parents still in your features. Long has it been since I has seen them."
No. of Votes: 2
JaceAoT
UbeOne
[X] I am here to parley, any who wish not to treat with me may begone this place for I am mighty and I shall parley where I stand.
No. of Votes: 1
Optimist Prone
[X] "It saddens me yet how even the great are prone to folly. I would know, my mistakes are more terrible than most."
[X]"It seems your people still suffer from the same bane: Hubris.
No. of Votes: 1
néocorvinus
[X] "I am Morianor, who was once called Durin's Bane. Nienna has shown me my regrets and brought me into her service. I bring news of Moria."
-[x] "I can see your parents still in your features. Long has it been since I has seen them."
No. of Votes: 1
avatar11792
[X] "I am Morianor, who was once called Durin's Bane. Nienna has shown me my regrets and brought me into her service. I bring news of Moria."
-[X] "I can see you parents still in your features. Long has it been since I has seen them."
--[X] "It saddens me yet how even the great are prone to folly. I would know, my mistakes are more terrible than most."
No. of Votes: 1
prince84
[X] "I am Morianor, who was once called Durin's Bane. Nienna has shown me my regrets and brought me into her service. I bring news of Moria."
-[X] "I can see your parents still in your features. Long has it been since I have seen them."
No. of Votes: 1
Ozimantus
Total No. of Voters: 31
Ok vote closed I'll see what I can do
The Lady of the Golden Wood Part 3
ganonso
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The Lady of the Golden Wood Part 3
Fire and shadow both have marked your form and even in the flesh Nienna gave you, you are still forced to abide by the deep wounds of your former attachment. While you can speak with a fair tongue, your voice is, and perhaps will forever be, hoarse as the crackling of fire and broken by the deep smoke. Your body bears the marks everywhere under your robes. It can please Nienna to enable you to hide your misery but under your clothes the flesh is still raw and burned to crisp, the pain a welcome companion even if the wonders of Lorien had distracted it until now. The pain is not so great as to incite pity, more like an old wound that never healed than a fresh opening to suffering, but it's still a reminder of what you were and what you cannot hide. And so no thoughts of hiding or lying go through your mind as you fix the eyes of Galadriel the Light Elf and say your piece. You could have let your thoughts flow for this Lady looks into the hearts of others but some penances must be made in public. Some accusations too.
"Hail Galadriel daughter of Finarfin, Princess of the Noldor. I am Morianor who the dwarves called Durin's bane. Nienna that is compassion made me see my errors. I bring tidings of Moria"
You hear a ruckus in the crowd. Of course they don't recognize your name. Which technically is not your name but a translation of the title you took when you fell with Melkor and didn't leave his service. The name Eru gave you in the Timeless Halls is unknown to your failing memory. It's not inhabitual, of the servants of the Enemy you know only Maïron that the Elves named Sauron to have kept his original title but he was a turncoat and not one of those who had formed Melkor's guard in the times before the world. Briefly you wonder if it would be easier for him, who knew only Morgoth while he had fallen to the darkness to repent when you, who knew him in the times of his former glory and remained with him for the first eons thinking he was only transmitting the words of Eru. Perhaps. Or perhaps it would be more difficult. Galadriel made the noise stop with a gesture of perfect authority. Frankly you are not surprised to see her reign here before answering.
"Great is the mercy of the Valar if indeed one of the Valaraukar can repent and turns to the light." Is that sarcasm. Her tone is perfectly unreadable and she turns to her lord. "I told you. White, Grey, Brown and Blue their envoys were arrayed. In amethyst this one is clad." She dismisses the crowd with a smile that is not one and you sense Power coming from her but her tone is now unmistakably sad : "What forgiveness can be found for all the atrocities of an age I wonder."
What to answer to that?
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Fire and shadow both have marked your form and even in the flesh Nienna gave you, you are still forced to abide by the deep wounds of your former attachment. While you can speak with a fair tongue, your voice is, and perhaps will forever be, hoarse as the crackling of fire and broken by the deep smoke. Your body bears the marks everywhere under your robes. It can please Nienna to enable you to hide your misery but under your clothes the flesh is still raw and burned to crisp, the pain a welcome companion even if the wonders of Lorien had distracted it until now. The pain is not so great as to incite pity, more like an old wound that never healed than a fresh opening to suffering, but it's still a reminder of what you were and what you cannot hide. And so no thoughts of hiding or lying go through your mind as you fix the eyes of Galadriel the Light Elf and say your piece. You could have let your thoughts flow for this Lady looks into the hearts of others but some penances must be made in public. Some accusations too.
"Hail Galadriel daughter of Finarfin, Princess of the Noldor. I am Morianor who the dwarves called Durin's bane. Nienna that is compassion made me see my errors. I bring tidings of Moria"
You hear a ruckus in the crowd. Of course they don't recognize your name. Which technically is not your name but a translation of the title you took when you fell with Melkor and didn't leave his service. The name Eru gave you in the Timeless Halls is unknown to your failing memory. It's not inhabitual, of the servants of the Enemy you know only Maïron that the Elves named Sauron to have kept his original title but he was a turncoat and not one of those who had formed Melkor's guard in the times before the world. Briefly you wonder if it would be easier for him, who knew only Morgoth while he had fallen to the darkness to repent when you, who knew him in the times of his former glory and remained with him for the first eons thinking he was only transmitting the words of Eru. Perhaps. Or perhaps it would be more difficult. Galadriel made the noise stop with a gesture of perfect authority. Frankly you are not surprised to see her reign here before answering.
"Great is the mercy of the Valar if indeed one of the Valaraukar can repent and turns to the light." Is that sarcasm. Her tone is perfectly unreadable and she turns to her lord. "I told you. White, Grey, Brown and Blue their envoys were arrayed. In amethyst this one is clad." She dismisses the crowd with a smile that is not one and you sense Power coming from her but her tone is now unmistakably sad : "What forgiveness can be found for all the atrocities of an age I wonder."
What to answer to that?
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Dark Abstraction
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So that's a thing. Not sure where to go with this, to be honest.
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Here's something. What do you think? It's a milder rebuke. If anyone has advices on the wording or content please tell me.
[X] Indeed, nothing is dearer to the Powers than the repentance of those who act with the power of the Shadow and the Discord, be they Ainur, Mortal or Elf, for it can only end conflicting with the Fate of the World. The truthfulness of the contrition must be proven by abandoning the fel conduct, however.
[X] Indeed, nothing is dearer to the Powers than the repentance of those who act with the power of the Shadow and the Discord, be they Ainur, Mortal or Elf, for it can only end conflicting with the Fate of the World. The truthfulness of the contrition must be proven by abandoning the fel conduct, however.
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Not to put too fine a point on it, but were she to bear that ring for ten ages of the world more she could cause not a fraction of the damage the Valaruraka did to Arda. Coming from a Balrog any rebuke of Glaladriel sounds so hollow as to be laughable.
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The difference is that we repented and stopped opposing the Valar. She keeps doing it.
Plus making sinners regret, repent for their transgressions and seek forgiveness and redemption is kind of our whole shtick.
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She has been on the road to forgiveness for ages now. The Balrog basically required the very hand of a Vala to come down and save him. However you slice it the only beings we have the moral high ground on are Sauron and Morgoth (Saruman too once he falls).
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We still beat her to the point and are the literal envoy of the archangel of grief in Middle Earth.
Hence it is not our task to judge, who have sinned so terribly.
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She kinda spend her life opposing evil.
She didn't do it in Valar-approved ways, but she has never commited any crime aside from following Feanor to Middle Earth, as far as I know.
She certainly has made mistakes in pride and stubborness, but she has never been a servant of the enemy. Puts her above us in my eyes.
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Our task is not to judge, but to make those that go against the will of the valar aknowledge their errors and repent. Encouraging Galadriel to stop fucking with an artefact created through the Discord to stop the Fate of the mortal lands is part of that. And it's expecially because we're one of the greatest felons that our testimony and words has such an authority.
edit: we're the Danny Trejo of the Istari.
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Do you really want that? If she stops using the Ring now, over 200 years before canon, she and her realm will be a lot weaker when it comes to opposing Sauron later.
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We don't know that IC and getting her over her Ring of Power addiction is pretty much our job description. Plus, not having her little island in the sea of time could very well make her and the elves more active in the fight against Sauron.
Dark Abstraction
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She doesn't have an addiction. She uses the ring to keep her people from lessening, she's not obsessed with using it for shits and giggles.
And if she stopped using the ring, Lothlorien and the elves within it would grow lesser and more hollow, and start leaving in droves to sail to the undying lands.
Elves do not sit on their hands for the lulz, they stay out of stuff cause there aren't very many, they're really damn tired of watching themselves and their world die by inches, and their souls literally burn out their bodies as time passes and that can only be balmed by sailing to Valinor or staying inside Rivendell/Lothlorien/the Grey Havens, where the wielders of the elven Rings of Power are.
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And that's the will of Iluvatar, who we recently started working for after a period with a competing organisation.
Dark Abstraction
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No it isn't.
Nobody knows the will of Eru Iluvatar. Not even Manwe knows. Don't ascribe things to him like that.
Such hubris to think we know the Will of Iluvatar...
Consider the fact that Olorin, servant of Manwe uses a Ring of Power
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Considering he created the world, complete with the sunset of the elves and the rise of mankind and the Valar consider this to be the direction the world has to go, I'm feeling pretty safe in going in that general direction.
Consider that everybody decided the Rings were to taken away to Valinor as soon as Sauron was beaten and their influece had to be taken away from Middle Earth.
What? No, no, no... the power of the rings was already broken then. Please stop trying to make our character a self-righteous ass who thinks he knows the will of the Unknowable.
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"And thou, Melkor, shalt see that no theme may be played that hath not its uttermost source in me, nor can any alter the music in my despite. For he that attempteth this shall prove but mine instrument in the devising of things more wonderful, which he himself hath not imagined."
Thank you for providing that quote. I was about to dig it up myself.
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I'm not trying to turn our character into anything. I made a vote based on by ideas on what to respond to Galadriel.
Yes. That's the quote for my argument.
Dark Abstraction
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No, that's the quote against your argument.
It says that no matter what, the evil brought into the world is of the will of Eru as well, and will make Ea all the greater despite the spite which that evil was created for.