A Heretek on the Quest for Knowledge [40k] [Complete]

How about 'crude', to be more like Latimus-senpai, or 'makes enemies' to go with your habit of pissing everybody off? Would probably fit the character better, as well.

As note: Crude is pretty self-explanatory. 'makes enemies' means that there'll always be someone that really hates you, not matter how good you get at dealing with people (until you get rid of the trait), and they'll always be in a position to hinder you. They don't loose all rationality, but they will gleefully screw you over. Or maybe just piss in your recaf.
 
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How about 'crude', to be more like Latimus-senpai, or 'makes enemies' to go with your habit of pissing everybody off? Would probably fit the character better, as well.

As note: Crude is pretty self-explanatory. 'makes enemies' means that there'll always be someone that really hates you, not matter how good you get at dealing with people (until you get rid of the trait), and they'll always be in a position to hinder you. They don't loose all rationality, but they will gleefully screw you over. Or maybe just piss in your recaf.
Okay switched it out to crude, I figure compassion in 40k universe was a weakness in general but no to letting it interfere with SCIENCE!
 
Please tell me this hasn't started yet, I'm making a Magos who is at least somewhat suited to try building something close to The Ship.
Sane has a massive lead. I guess I can give you half an hour, and if the result is neat enough, I can let the vote run until tomorrow.

Mind, even with the current character, building you own Craftsworld is a valid longterm goal. Specialization is for ants, not incredibly rude tech priests.
 
[X] Plan Arkbuilder

[X] Name: Movha
[X] INDUCTED IN 36K (gain 10 Imperial tech, 5 repair, 5 combat, -5 diplomacy)
-[X] RECLAIMATOR (gain +10 repair, 5 research, +5 Imperial tech)
-[X] ARTISAN (gain 30 craft skill)
-[X] MAGOS ERRANT (gain +60 Imperial tech, +25 repair, +15 xenotech, +15 diplomacy)

>FOR A DETAILED ACCOUNTING, SEE APPENDIX
-[X] [TBD]

-[X] DIPLOMACY (gain +20 diplomacy)

>FAVORABLE ATTRIBUTES (choose one for every flaw taken)
-[X] PROVEN STABILITY (SEE REPORT LBIE-4157-AA) (gain 'unbreakable will' trait)
-[X] CONTINUED ASSET VIABILITY AGAINST EXPECTIATION (gain 'survivor' trait)
-[X] FOUND ARCHEOTECH (SEE REPORT AK47-WPC-3) (gain 'lucky' trait)
-[X] INSPIRED CRAFTSMANSHIP (gain 'inspiration' trait)
-[X] CONTINUOUSLY SURPASSED EXPECTATIONS (gain 'genius' trait, cost 2 flaws)

>CONCERNS (choose at least one)
-[X] IMPROPER TREATMENT OF MENIALS (gain 'compassionate' trait)
-[X] RISK OF ASSET LOSS (gain 'reckless' trait)
-[X]LACK OF APPRECIATION OF SUPERIORS (gain disrespectful trait)
-[X] LACKING THEOLOGICAL REFINEMENT (gain 'crude' trait)
-[X] ACCUSATION OF TECH-HERESY (SEE REPORT MBFK-4121-LOWW); RESOLVED (gain 'makes enemies' trait)
-[X] UNWARRANTED APPRECIATION OF SELF (gain 'arrogant' trait)


DOES THIS COG IN THE MACHING PLEASE YOU, MAGOS DHFE-54DF-FF74?
-[X] Y

-[X] created this laspistole from nothing but your own theories, your own research. It's worse than any pattern you've ever seen, perhaps the worst laspistole you've ever laid eyes on. But it's yours.
(gain +20 research, +5 lastech, 'Sin of Innovation' trait, 1 terrible laspistole)
 
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Okay, there it is.

It hits many of the same points as Sane Magos in the latter half with some tweaks, but with some clear differences in the first, the most obvious (of course) being the promotion and specialties (which are better picks, since specializing in lastech is going to limit you outside of weaponry).

Also the Magos isn't outspoken. Since, you know, combined with both arrogant and disrespectful it sounds like a terrible idea.
 
Okay, there it is.

It hits many of the same points as Sane Magos in the latter half with some tweaks, but with some clear differences in the first, the most obvious (of course) being the promotion and specialties (which are better picks, since specializing in lastech is going to limit you outside of weaponry).

Also the Magos isn't outspoken. Since, you know, combined with both arrogant and disrespectful it sounds like a terrible idea.
First, I wanna clear up something: What you choose her and now doesn't limit what you can learn. All those skills can be learned later, hell even traits can be acquired. It just shapes how you start. Compare it to one of the Soulsborne games.

Second, I don't think this built is even all that good for the goal. For one, Craft is for making single amazing artifacts (changed description to make it clearer), not large scale projects. And this guy is still a huge asshole, and pretty bad at Diplomacy. Which is bad for a project that will need enormous manpower and resources. Also, inspiration and unbreakable will are not all that helpful for your goal either. First is for crafting (a chance that something you make becomes unaccountably amazing) and the second for not getting corrupted (or memetic hazards in general).
 
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Eh, per your own words, Stats aren't locked, we can always improve.

Sucks that crafting can't be applied to something larger scale, but I'll stick with it, since being able to make amazing artifacts is liable to be useful if we want people sticking with us. It's a much more visible benefit than say, management skills.

Point about diplomacy, we can raise it more later, but I'm still switching out that option.

Inspiration and Will are both useful for, well, exactly what you said. Not being corrupted is obvious, and I like having high crafting since we're going to be stepping towards making our own tech.
 
Eh, per your own words, Stats aren't locked, we can always improve.

Sucks that crafting can't be applied to something larger scale, but I'll stick with it, since being able to make amazing artifacts is liable to be useful if we want people sticking with us. It's a much more visible benefit than say, management skills.

Point about diplomacy, we can raise it more later, but I'm still switching out that option.

Inspiration and Will are both useful for, well, exactly what you said. Not being corrupted is obvious, and I like having high crafting since we're going to be stepping towards making our own tech.
Do you want to add some backstory?

Anyway, I guess by this point it's too late for me to start on an update anyway, so the voting is extended until whenever I wake up tomorrow.
 
Do you want to add some backstory?

Is this fine?:
Movha is very old, and has a survived a lot of shit. This, combined with several millennia of seeing the breadth of the Imperium in ways few ever do, has stripped away the indecisiveness of his youth, replacing it with overwhelming confidence in his skills and survivability (though some might call him arrogant, and reckless). Alas, said experience has also done away with any care for theology and respect for his superiors (unless they've really earned it of course). Odds are he would have been executed long ago if he wasn't smart enough to keep quiet.

Even then, things nearly reached that point a few times, his closest brush with death being when he was accused of tech heresy. After said incident (at least in part due to wary glances he kept getting) he dedicated himself for some years towards learning a measure of diplomacy. and found he actually had a bit of flair for it, when he could be bothered to try. Alternately considered both a loose canon, and a genius, he is a very polarizing figure among those who know of him. Easy to admire, easier still to hate.
 
Yeah, except for the age. Given that you chose 32k as your starting point, that would mean he was born in the Age of strife, and I'm just going to say no to that. And I don't want to have to bother with millennia of stuff he's done. And it would make no sense in relation to the rate of skill gain in game, he would already be late game at that age. So I'm just going to say no older than 200.

Also, I'd be nice if you said something about how 'compassionate' fits in.
 
. Given that you chose 32k as your starting point, that would mean he was born in the Age of strife,
After the Horus Heresy, actually.

Age of Strife was in the later m20s.
Also, I'd be nice if you said something about how 'compassionate' fits in.
Ah, that one is pretty simple. It's the survivor trait. He's lived through a lot of shit, a lot of times. With the lowest of humans, to some of the highest of xenos.

Things like that tend to break down a world view that says one person is above another.

Edit: This is also why he doesn't automatically respect his superiors.
 
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After the Horus Heresy, actually.

Age of Strife was in the later m20s.
Not according to the timeline I've looked up, Horus is around 31k, several millenia implies 3+ to me.
Ah, that one is pretty simple. It's the survivor trait. He's lived through a lot of shit, a lot of times. With the lowest of humans, to some of the highest of xenos.

Things like that tend to break down a world view that says one person is above another.

Edit: This is also why he doesn't automatically respect his superiors.
Again, 'compassion' is a flaw, see my earlier post. It's not just about being nice, it's being nice in really dumb ways.
 
Not according to the timeline I've looked up, Horus is around 31k, several millenia implies 3+ to me.
AH, okay, misunderstading. I read 'Inducted' as when we /joined/ the mechanicus. Which I figured would happen when we were pretty young. In that case changing the vote for something a little later.
Again, 'compassion' is a flaw, see my earlier post. It's not just about being nice, it's being nice in really dumb ways.
Hence his disrespecting his superiors in the mechanicus of all things, and willingly working with xenos (he's an errant and was accused of techheresy, it seems the most likely option).

Edit: if this doesn't cover it, could you give me an example, maybe?
 
First, I'm going to call the vote her. It was really quite close.
AH, okay, misunderstading. I read 'Inducted' as when we /joined/ the mechanicus. Which I figured would happen when we were pretty young. In that case changing the vote for something a little later.

Hence his disrespecting his superiors in the mechanicus of all things, and willingly working with xenos (he's an errant and was accused of techheresy, it seems the most likely option).

Edit: if this doesn't cover it, could you give me an example, maybe?
There are a bunch in the earlier post. Core thing is that as a flaw, it has to have serious drawbacks, and pissing of the mechnicus superiors is already covered by disrespectful.
 
[X] Plan Sane Magos

I like this one, sadly no genius trait or this one :
-[] attempted to create an Abominable Intelligence. You failed of course, all you have to show is a buggy cogitator and deep satisfaction. You'll bring your old childhood friend to life eventually.
(gain +15 research, +25 Hacking, 'Sin of the Abominable Intelligence' trait, 1 buggy cogitator )

These two for genius
-[ ]LACK OF APPRECIATION OF SUPERIORS (gain disrespectful trait)
-[ ] ACCUSATION OF TECH-HERESY (SEE REPORT MBFK-4121-LOWW); RESOLVED (gain 'makes enemies' trait)


If we are going Heretek why not go full Heretek ?

The rest of the plan seems really nice and i can understand why you go with the lastech at first (innovation is important after all).
 
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You stomp down the corridor towards your office to get a replacement robe. As much as you like your chainsaw arm, it can get a little messy. At least cleaning your robe is a fitting punishment for the fool whose servitor you had to forcibly dismantle.

You sometimes wonder why you are punished with such incompetent underlings. Of course, you already know, it's because the people in charge can't take it when you rub their inadequacy in their face. So it's really more a musing on the nature of incompetence in general and your place as the sole exception.

Fittingly, you get interrupted by an idiot.

"Servitor, where is Magos Lychinus office?" he yells. At first it doesn't even register he means you, until more nonsense makes you turn around.

"Overwrite code HKW-51034-WHNFG-Aleph, where is Magos Lychinus Iracundia's office?"

He called you a servitor? He really called you a servitor?

"I'll show you", you reply with a friendly smile. You grab his empty skull and continue stomping down the hall. He struggles a bit, but the pressure of your lightning claws on his eyes takes most of the fire away. One of his mechandrite lashes out, but you easily intercept it with one of your own... and it shatters? Now that's just embarrasing.

You arrive at your office, and throw him into the visitor's chair. Since it's a steel chair full of sharp edges, you consider this an appropriate retribution for his insults.

"Now, you wanted to talk to me?"

Roll: 70-40=30>25

You take some joy in the dawning horror, and then there's...relief? Just how bad has your reputation gotten?

He takes a moment to collect himself .

"I was seconded to your command to help fullfill the production quotas", and hands you a dataslate.

Make 100 lascannons!
Or at least that's what the orders boil down to when you strip away the bullshit. You look up

"You're gonna be fuck all use, won't you? At least tell me if you're an idiot, useless, or honest"

He just gapes at you. Nice teeth though, he must be brushing daily.

"Look, we're sposed to make a whole load of lascannons, and last time a checked Genetors aren't too good at that stuff. Ohh, don't look so surprised, your too fleshy and your mechandrites too shit for anything but a Genetor. Anyway, what have you got for me."

He takes a moment to steel himself before he answers.

"3 Electro-Priests, 5 Enginseers, 1 Transmechanic and 1 Lexmechanic. The necessary supplies for the order, as well as the functioning of the facility until we arrive at our first target."
gained small production facility, gained small tech-priest team, gained one useless second (genetor), gained supplies

Ahh, right, it's 735 now, you can never remember the date. The Explorator fleet is going to leave soon for

-[] Euralis, a forgeworld ruin recently freed from the traitors.
-[] Karandir, a forgeworld ruin recently freed from the remmnants of the Waagh
-[] Mithra, a Hiveworld depopulated by Traitors, more Traitors, Orks, and then Traitors again
-[] 34DFF-A4654, the remmnants of a large space battle between man and Orks
-[] JBF-N751, an system with nothing of value, as far as you know.

Of course, how much of it you'll see is in doubt, given that you're stuck here,
-[] in the bowl of the strike cruiser "Loveless". Idiots keep bother you to do stuff
-[] on the frigate "Soul of Fear". You're the highest ranking tech priest, but that also means you have to take care of maintenance and stuff.
-[] the ass-end of nowhere on the Ark Mechanicus 1101110011. Lots of neat stuff, great facilities, packed full of assholes that can order you around. (they don't want you here)

So, how are you going to handle this?

You have 2 personal actions, and 3 official actions. You have at least one more turn before you arrive, probably more.

Personal
-[] make some lascannons. Given that you're the only one qualified, that order is gonna take a while. Better get started (can be taken multiple times)
-[] hopefully your useless second is actually honest, rather than useless. Teach him how to make stuff, so he can help you make stuff.
-[] you don't know anything about making fleshy monsters. Or just flesh. That is unacceptable. Get you Genetor (did he ever say his name? Ahh, no matter) to teach you.
-[] Help your Genetor make some better Mechandrites. His are just embarrasing. Hopefully he learns something. And maybe he'll actually work willingly, that's been known to happen. You hear.
-[]something else

Offical (can take options multiple times):
-[] order some maintance. Maybe you can get something out of it (1 locked in if frigate is taken)
-[] have them built some of the easier parts of the lascannon. Means you'll save some time
-[] have them make neatish stuff. Always useful
-[] have them try to be less aweful. Man can dream, right?
-[] see if you can swap some out for less aweful dude. (Warning, involves talking to people)
-[] have them upgrade the facility
-[]something else

"Magos, before I go attend my duties, would you permit me a question?"

You just eye him angrily. Why is he still here?

"Magos, why are you naked?"

You snort, and throw him out of the office. What a dumb question.


AN: Lychinus is about 2m tall, and built like a brick shithouse. He looks like he belongs in a russian wrestling ring. He's naked because he has no fucks to give, and pretty crude. Also, the roll was to determine just how much he hates you.
 
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[X] Karandir, a forgeworld ruin recently freed from the remmnants of the Waagh
[X] in the bowl of the strike cruiser "Loveless". Idiots keep bother you to do stuff
[X] make some lascannons. Given that you're the only one qualified, that order is gonna take a while. Better get started (can be taken multiple times)
[X] you don't know anything about making fleshy monsters. Or just flesh. That is unacceptable. Get you Genetor (did he ever say his name? Ahh, no matter) to teach you.
[X] order some maintance. Maybe you can get something out of it (1 locked in if frigate is taken)
[X] have them built some of the easier parts of the lascannon. Means you'll save some time
[X] have them upgrade the facility

Also just noticed but we should have 5 in the management skill.

Still I figure, get started on the lascannon order. The second is give us knowledge! And outside of that just try to avoid interacting with others, upgrading facility so we have somewhere more suitable to work for a person of our talents.

Still could we get the effects of our traits and flaws?
 
I think we should have a little pity for our new idiot assistant. Also we don't mass-produce things, that's for the underlings.

-[x] Mithra, a Hiveworld depopulated by Traitors, more Traitors, Orks, and then Traitors again
-[x] on the frigate "Soul of Fear". You're the highest ranking tech priest, but that also means you have to take care of maintenance and stuff.

Personal
-[x] hopefully your useless second is actually honest, rather than useless. Teach him how to make stuff, so he can help you make stuff.
-[x] Help your Genetor make some better Mechandrites. His are just embarrasing. Hopefully he learns something. And maybe he'll actually work willingly, that's been known to happen. You hear.

Offical (can take options multiple times):
-[x] order some maintance. Maybe you can get something out of it (1 locked in if frigate is taken)
-[x] have them built some of the easier parts of the lascannon. Means you'll save some time
-[x] have them upgrade the facility
 
[X] Karandir, a forgeworld ruin recently freed from the remmnants of the Waagh

[X] in the bowl of the strike cruiser "Loveless". Idiots keep bother you to do stuff

[X] make some lascannons. Given that you're the only one qualified, that order is gonna take a while. Better get started (can be taken multiple times)
[X] hopefully your useless second is actually honest, rather than useless. Teach him how to make stuff, so he can help you make stuff.

[X] order some maintance. Maybe you can get something out of it (1 locked in if frigate is taken)
[X] have them built some of the easier parts of the lascannon. Means you'll save some time
[X] have them upgrade the facility


So we get started on the lascannons try to teach.
Then we have the facility upgrade, order them to do some maintance and have them build some parts for us.

I would like us to focus at first on getting things done like the lascannons / teaching then to learn new things (that can come a bit later).

AN: Lychinus is about 2m tall, and built like a brick shithouse. He looks like he belongs in a russian wrestling ring. He's naked because he has no fucks to give, and pretty crude. Also, the roll was to determine just how much he hates you.

So was the high roll good ? I hope he doesn´t hate us to much.
 
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