A Harry Potter Quest: He who was not
- Thread starter Tabula Rasa
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I really think we should up our History of Magic before going for The Riddle of Riddle. We wouldn't want a situation where we go around thinking Tom Riddle was just a smart student or fail to link bad actions to him. It does seem like his studies are a logical continuation into our studies of ghosts.
DarkKing98
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Tom Riddle, do you mean the person very few people know? Remember, few people know Voldemort is Tom Riddle. It would not be in History of Magic.
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[X] Plan Cases and Essential Studies
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I'm not saying it would show that he is Lord Voldemort but that, as a student in Hogwarts (with deaths), that we might want to maximize the chance at us knowing the history of the student and his links to dark magic before we just go around unintentionally emulating him (explaining the Trait and the Grey Lady's initial suspicion). Plus, might help us with our dreams, but Riddle of Riddle was the most obvious issue.
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I watched again the mechanics. Apparently, classes starts to give higher bonus than 1 starting from the 11th level, when they give a +5, and this bonus gets increased pretty much every level after that.
We should try to reach the 10th level in them after we line up what we want at P- (the equivalent of the 5th level).
We should try to reach the 10th level in them after we line up what we want at P- (the equivalent of the 5th level).
DarkKing98
Certified Village Idiot
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Too busy to put my thoughts down here now. But summing them up. darknessworld, please stop thinking about the softcaps pass the softcaps we already have, and MysteriousCPU we're not going to emulate him unless the questers decide to go obsess over forbidden bullshit, which then we're basically locked into it considering the typical attitude observable in questing.
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[X] Plan Learning about the Past for Future Cases v2
-[X] Stage II, Dreams of old (Takes 2 Actions) – Coming back into the years of unrelenting war. Basques and Valentino want to go scouting and skirmish the attacker that have been gathering for a month outside their borders. While her older brother wants to keep her far from harm, she is as much a child of their ancestors as he is. No one will be allowed to destroy what her father and her father's father build in these lands.
-[X] Break through your Horizon I – Hogwarts is built in a valley area — surrounding mountains are part of the landscape. You had always wondered about them, because they were your daily horizon. Usually there would not have been enough time for you to get there, wander around to explore the lands and come back in time for curfew. Having access to a broom would have helped you, but now that you had secret exits out of Hogwarts… the horizon was not your limit anymore. Use the unknown passageway in the north end of the castle. (Takes 3 Actions, can't be taken in the same month as Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea and What hides behind trees)
-[X] Random Encounter – Just… Go and live your life. You don't need to plan everything in your life out.
-[X] Write a Letter (Free Action) – to Parents regarding the last month and what he has learned
-[X] Train, Learn, Achieve – Charms
-[X] Train, Learn, Achieve – DADA
-[X] Train, Learn, Achieve – Potions
-[X] Train, Learn, Achieve – Potions
-[X] Train, Learn, Achieve – Intelligence
-[X] Train, Learn, Achieve – Intelligence
-[X] Train, Learn, Achieve – Protego (DC 100)
After reading other people's plans, I modified mine. This way we can continue exploring our dreams, our school, while still working on skills that could help our dueling (charms and Protego), while working on skills that could be helpful in our delving in to the past and into ghosts.
Edit: Fixed mistake on Protego DC. Thanks darknessworld.
Edit 2: Replaced History of Magic with Potions due to discussions.
Edit 3: Chanced Ancient Runes to Intelligence
-[X] Stage II, Dreams of old (Takes 2 Actions) – Coming back into the years of unrelenting war. Basques and Valentino want to go scouting and skirmish the attacker that have been gathering for a month outside their borders. While her older brother wants to keep her far from harm, she is as much a child of their ancestors as he is. No one will be allowed to destroy what her father and her father's father build in these lands.
-[X] Break through your Horizon I – Hogwarts is built in a valley area — surrounding mountains are part of the landscape. You had always wondered about them, because they were your daily horizon. Usually there would not have been enough time for you to get there, wander around to explore the lands and come back in time for curfew. Having access to a broom would have helped you, but now that you had secret exits out of Hogwarts… the horizon was not your limit anymore. Use the unknown passageway in the north end of the castle. (Takes 3 Actions, can't be taken in the same month as Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea and What hides behind trees)
-[X] Random Encounter – Just… Go and live your life. You don't need to plan everything in your life out.
-[X] Write a Letter (Free Action) – to Parents regarding the last month and what he has learned
-[X] Train, Learn, Achieve – Charms
-[X] Train, Learn, Achieve – DADA
-[X] Train, Learn, Achieve – Potions
-[X] Train, Learn, Achieve – Potions
-[X] Train, Learn, Achieve – Intelligence
-[X] Train, Learn, Achieve – Intelligence
-[X] Train, Learn, Achieve – Protego (DC 100)
After reading other people's plans, I modified mine. This way we can continue exploring our dreams, our school, while still working on skills that could help our dueling (charms and Protego), while working on skills that could be helpful in our delving in to the past and into ghosts.
Edit: Fixed mistake on Protego DC. Thanks darknessworld.
Edit 2: Replaced History of Magic with Potions due to discussions.
Edit 3: Chanced Ancient Runes to Intelligence
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[X] Plan We haven't forgot the other classes
-[X] Case III: The Riddle of Riddle - Digging through the archives for so long has given you a good grasp as to who walked these floors in the last two hundred years. There were mentions of someone, you still remembered. There had been some records history of one of the greatest minds that walked this castle, maybe not as special as Sally-Anne or even Dumbledore, but still … Who was he? (2 Actions)
-[X] Quidditch Round 2, Hufflepuff vs Slytherin – It's time for the second game of the year and while you have a lot of things that you'd like to focus on, most of the school will be present here. Go and watch the Quidditch Game. It could be interesting and if it is not, well you will be high enough up to watch the clouds instead.
-[X] Business School of Hogsmeade (Multiple Actions on this count as multiple rolls stacking) – This is the first year, in which you can go to Hogsmeade. Good that you've been planning for this since first year: Buy Books, Ingredients, Joke Shop Articles, Instruments and other things. Go and look, if you can make some money by buying things for first and second years. Roll for how many are interested and then for how much they want to spend. Take 15% of their spending as a fee.
-[X] Stage II, Dreams of old (Takes 2 Actions) – Coming back into the years of unrelenting war. Basques and Valentino want to go scouting and skirmish the attacker that have been gathering for a month outside their borders. While her older brother wants to keep her far from harm, she is as much a child of their ancestors as he is. No one will be allowed to destroy what her father and her father's father build in these lands.
-[X] Convert 4 normal actions in 2 personal actions.
-[X] Train, Learn, Achieve – Defense Against the Dark Arts
-[X] Train, Learn, Achieve – Charms
-[X] Train, Learn, Achieve – Potions
-[X] Train, Learn, Achieve – History of Magic
-[X] Train, Learn, Achieve – Herbology
-[X] Train, Learn, Achieve – Protego (Basic Understanding)
-[X] Train, Learn, Achieve – Protego (Basic Understanding). If we already completed it, then: Expelliarmus (Needed for exams at the end of the year)
I've noticed that many have forgotten we have also Herbology and History of magic as classes. The objective is to eventually reach P- in all classes that started at D- by the end of December.
-[X] Case III: The Riddle of Riddle - Digging through the archives for so long has given you a good grasp as to who walked these floors in the last two hundred years. There were mentions of someone, you still remembered. There had been some records history of one of the greatest minds that walked this castle, maybe not as special as Sally-Anne or even Dumbledore, but still … Who was he? (2 Actions)
-[X] Quidditch Round 2, Hufflepuff vs Slytherin – It's time for the second game of the year and while you have a lot of things that you'd like to focus on, most of the school will be present here. Go and watch the Quidditch Game. It could be interesting and if it is not, well you will be high enough up to watch the clouds instead.
-[X] Business School of Hogsmeade (Multiple Actions on this count as multiple rolls stacking) – This is the first year, in which you can go to Hogsmeade. Good that you've been planning for this since first year: Buy Books, Ingredients, Joke Shop Articles, Instruments and other things. Go and look, if you can make some money by buying things for first and second years. Roll for how many are interested and then for how much they want to spend. Take 15% of their spending as a fee.
-[X] Stage II, Dreams of old (Takes 2 Actions) – Coming back into the years of unrelenting war. Basques and Valentino want to go scouting and skirmish the attacker that have been gathering for a month outside their borders. While her older brother wants to keep her far from harm, she is as much a child of their ancestors as he is. No one will be allowed to destroy what her father and her father's father build in these lands.
-[X] Convert 4 normal actions in 2 personal actions.
-[X] Train, Learn, Achieve – Defense Against the Dark Arts
-[X] Train, Learn, Achieve – Charms
-[X] Train, Learn, Achieve – Potions
-[X] Train, Learn, Achieve – History of Magic
-[X] Train, Learn, Achieve – Herbology
-[X] Train, Learn, Achieve – Protego (Basic Understanding)
-[X] Train, Learn, Achieve – Protego (Basic Understanding). If we already completed it, then: Expelliarmus (Needed for exams at the end of the year)
I've noticed that many have forgotten we have also Herbology and History of magic as classes. The objective is to eventually reach P- in all classes that started at D- by the end of December.
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Protego has a DC of 100.
Why? It will make our character safer during his adventures, which we will obviously have to continue to take due to not wanting to lose the wand bonus.
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We literally already are emulating him in some ways- as reflected in the story and mechanics. We have the Perk "My Name is Riddle" (mechanics) and the Grey Lady's hesitance to help our curiosity, the fact that she got hurt in the past, and her question if we wanted to hurt anyone can be linked to the last person she helped fulfill his curiosity after she was complimented...Tom Riddle.
Nice plan. Might I ask why Quidditch?
I didn't forget there was Herbology, but my plan was focused more on getting relevant skills to P- then moving to the next skill? Why? It actually has to do with skill increases we get during the story. If, for instance, we get a +1 in Charm, it is worth more actions to upgrade a P- to a P than it is to upgrade a D+ to a P-. Thus, better to get the upgrade on a skill that is on the cusp or in another bracket.
Whoops! Thanks for that.
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Frankly I'm for the bare minimum in History of Maigc. History class is less than worthless - it's detrimental, unless one takes it to third level education, where it be comes one of the most important things a human can choose to focus on.
Why are you suggesting doing more than the bare minimum in it?
@darknessworld Why quidditch? I fail to see the appeal and would be grateful if you shared your perspective that lead you to picking that option.
Frankly I'm for the bare minimum in History of Maigc. History class is less than worthless - it's detrimental, unless one takes it to third level education, where it be comes one of the most important things a human can choose to focus on.
Why are you suggesting doing more than the bare minimum in it?
@darknessworld Why quidditch? I fail to see the appeal and would be grateful if you shared your perspective that lead you to picking that option.
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Tbf, we got an answer back in an earlier update where Jacob thinks Binns is trying to get students to question what portions of history actually make sense.
DarkKing98
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We have requirements for Patronus and end of year exam Potions we need to meet. I'm going to start including the other subjects soon.
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@DarkKing98 I think we should reach P- in all the classes that started at D- before January.
@BeepSmile Because it probably give us an easier time to interact with people that simply going randomly around.
@BeepSmile Because it probably give us an easier time to interact with people that simply going randomly around.
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@BeepSmile Three reasons:
1. Character: it looks like Jacob is delving into the past through his dreams, through his studies into ghosts, and through his trying to riddle out Hogwarts. All these are things that would be helped by knowing the history and players that he is learning about, interacting with (ghosts), and exploring (Hogwarts). Knowing the history of the Forbidden Forest, for example, might be helpful before we go into the forbidden forest. It just seems like something he would be interested in given all that is going on.
2. Quests: The Riddle for Riddle and our trait seems to suggest we are mimicking in some ways Tom Riddle. Not the racist part (hopefully).
3. Mechanics: My goal was to make a plan that could get us to 20 Skill in Arithmancy+Magical Theory by the end of 7th year. Why- it is a goal that is hard to do and it helps towards making efficient plans. Looking at the plans, we need to have 12 skills at Level 15 to make that work. That is...difficult when taking into account the need to increase stats, the dropping probability of increasing skills, and the need to learn magic spells.
The saving grace, for us, is the Ravenclaw bonus. 2 skill increases per school year that, over the 5 years, are 10 skill increases in all classes we take. We get the bonus in 9 classes, of which History of Magic is one. We still need to develop 3 other skills to 15. Without History, we would need to independently increase 4 skills 15 levels.
Actually, there is another reason:
I like history. History is cool.
But, really, the first three reasons.
Edit: But, if you prefer, I can change HoM to Potions. My plan is up for reasonable modifications. Perhaps Herbology to learn of Gillyweed for our foray Underwater?
1. Character: it looks like Jacob is delving into the past through his dreams, through his studies into ghosts, and through his trying to riddle out Hogwarts. All these are things that would be helped by knowing the history and players that he is learning about, interacting with (ghosts), and exploring (Hogwarts). Knowing the history of the Forbidden Forest, for example, might be helpful before we go into the forbidden forest. It just seems like something he would be interested in given all that is going on.
2. Quests: The Riddle for Riddle and our trait seems to suggest we are mimicking in some ways Tom Riddle. Not the racist part (hopefully).
3. Mechanics: My goal was to make a plan that could get us to 20 Skill in Arithmancy+Magical Theory by the end of 7th year. Why- it is a goal that is hard to do and it helps towards making efficient plans. Looking at the plans, we need to have 12 skills at Level 15 to make that work. That is...difficult when taking into account the need to increase stats, the dropping probability of increasing skills, and the need to learn magic spells.
The saving grace, for us, is the Ravenclaw bonus. 2 skill increases per school year that, over the 5 years, are 10 skill increases in all classes we take. We get the bonus in 9 classes, of which History of Magic is one. We still need to develop 3 other skills to 15. Without History, we would need to independently increase 4 skills 15 levels.
Actually, there is another reason:
I like history. History is cool.
But, really, the first three reasons.
Edit: But, if you prefer, I can change HoM to Potions. My plan is up for reasonable modifications. Perhaps Herbology to learn of Gillyweed for our foray Underwater?
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[X] Plan All Work and Play
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I think it's more important that Jacob try his hand at learning more spells. People talk about how we needed expelliarmus and protego to keep up in Duel club, but I believe Jacob needs to expand his repertoire more then rushing down these spells. I don't deny their utility, but it would be more narratively entertaining to hear duels to consists of more then flipendo. Also, there is no doubt in my mind that the current version available to us is a gateway for multiple other protego, so of which is beyond our current abilities. By waiting and training our primary skill first, then studying protego, and then Jacob has a better chance to learn the other variations of the Shield charm.
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It looks like Plan All work and Play want to brew potions before we can reach the optimal level. Just to reitarate, doing a development action before we reach the optimal level in the class just reduce our chances of success for no obvious gains.
It's just one potion, and shrinking solution is DC 50 with no indication of minimum requirement on potion level
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History is cool.
History is vitally important.
The "History" that is taught to thirteen year-olds in the UK is insultingly transparent propaganda, and nothing else.
I genuinely believe that a more focused "look for/research [topics you listed] in the libary is a better choice than a second history option.
The fact is that the mechanics of this game have it that to be super skilled at one thing, you have a minimum requirement of skill in other things. I view History of Magic to be a dump-stat.
Maybe focused research on the topics you hope 'history of magic' might help with would be a good alternative, or failing that; Charms/DADA/Potions would be good in my eyes.
Also, can I interest you in a "free action write" in where you have Jacob raise a "Patronus Charm study group" at the end of the next duelling club? Come onnnn... all the cool kids are doing it. You don't want look like a square in front of them, do you?
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If you wait for potions to be P- or P you would gain a +2 or +3 at least to the roll. However, we don't gain anything if we give up on these bonuses.
@BeepSmile We have also a +10 to learn history classes by investing our personal actions on it. Same with Runes, Charms, DADA, and trasfiguration.
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Or we do it now in order to get it out of the way from more interesting potions/ spells, and Jacob has a 50/50 chance to learn it.
SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
[X] Plan Stats and Spells
- [X] Break through your Horizon I – Hogwarts is built in a valley area — surrounding mountains are part of the landscape. You had always wondered about them, because they were your daily horizon. Usually there would not have been enough time for you to get there, wander around to explore the lands and come back in time for curfew. Having access to a broom would have helped you, but now that you had secret exits out of Hogwarts… the horizon was not your limit anymore. Use the unknown passageway in the north end of the castle. (Takes 3 Actions, can't be taken in the same month as Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea and What hides behind trees)
-[X] Business School of Hogsmeade x1
-[X] Protego (Basic Understanding) – DC: 100 x2
-[x] Expelliarmus (Needed for exams at the end of the year) - DADA. DC 100 x2
-[X] Train Intelligence
-[X] Train Intelligence
-[X] Train Empathy
-[x] Train Constitution
I'm still a big proponent of stat training, so that when we get the next level up we have some stats worth pouring the points into other than just luck which people rightfully pointed out we shouldn't be trying to rely on. I think we could if we focus a little in the short term on stats be able to work towards having ten in a stat or two before the end of this year. (including level ups)
This plan also focuses on learning both Protego and Expeliarmus before the end of year by putting two actions each. Break through the Horizons is probably the safest of the social options available, the water is going to be freezing at this time of year and getting involved with dementers right now feels foolhardy at best.
- [X] Break through your Horizon I – Hogwarts is built in a valley area — surrounding mountains are part of the landscape. You had always wondered about them, because they were your daily horizon. Usually there would not have been enough time for you to get there, wander around to explore the lands and come back in time for curfew. Having access to a broom would have helped you, but now that you had secret exits out of Hogwarts… the horizon was not your limit anymore. Use the unknown passageway in the north end of the castle. (Takes 3 Actions, can't be taken in the same month as Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea and What hides behind trees)
-[X] Business School of Hogsmeade x1
-[X] Protego (Basic Understanding) – DC: 100 x2
-[x] Expelliarmus (Needed for exams at the end of the year) - DADA. DC 100 x2
-[X] Train Intelligence
-[X] Train Intelligence
-[X] Train Empathy
-[x] Train Constitution
I'm still a big proponent of stat training, so that when we get the next level up we have some stats worth pouring the points into other than just luck which people rightfully pointed out we shouldn't be trying to rely on. I think we could if we focus a little in the short term on stats be able to work towards having ten in a stat or two before the end of this year. (including level ups)
This plan also focuses on learning both Protego and Expeliarmus before the end of year by putting two actions each. Break through the Horizons is probably the safest of the social options available, the water is going to be freezing at this time of year and getting involved with dementers right now feels foolhardy at best.
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