A Green Sun Illuminates the Void (ZnT/Exalted)

EarthScorpion said:
Hmm. Thinking about it, if we were to put Louise directly into Exalted, she'd be a Mnemon, and directly one of the children of Mnemon herself, too. Heh. I still can't get over the fact that before her Exaltation, Mnemon was a moeblob. :D
Heh... Mnemon was a moeblob riiight until the actual assassination attempt that -failed-. She could have stayed a moeblob if she hadn't had that wake up call.


Also, I believe it was noted that Mnemon (as of 1e and such) didn't quite age properly and still looks young as she was when her school got blown up by a demon, and she was the only survivor.
 
Happerry said:
I vote for dragonfly wings myself. And sad to hear about this story's low importance, I like it better then Aeon Entelechy Evangelion.
Not quite. It's just that I try to keep an update cycle going for my fics, where they roughly alternate in update times. AGSITV got to cheat just then, because the last two chapters were split, because of how the Foquet stuff sort of worked out. Broadly, though, they revolve; at the moment, it goes (Aeon Entelechy Evangelion), (The Yomiko Absolution), (A Green Sun Illuminates the Void); once the AEE chapter is done, it drops to the bottom, and then TYA starts, then AGSITV, then AEE again. In theory.


Hmm. And I still have about 1000 words of a protochapter of Three Thousand, Four Hundred and Eighteen sitting on my hard drive.
 
GhostStalker said:
Also, 3418 sounds familiar, was that the plot tribble with Nanoha crossed over with Hellsing, or am I off base?
Yes, that was the bunny. :D

GhostStalker said:
Intriguing. It's always good to see some world building here and there. Skynavy vs waternavy competing for credit for exploration? Sounds pretty interesting. Does that mean that the Brimiric nations in your fic have discovered the existence of the New World west of Halkagenia and have established colonies there? Quite a bit early for the Age of Exploration, though innit? I always saw ZnT at an analogue of the Late Middle Ages, early Renaissance... I guess the Age of Discovery could be coming right along though... I can only guess how the unrest in Albion and impending Civil War will affect this exploration and settlement of colonies.
They have an English Albionese Civil War going on, and I personally see Germania as Thirty Years War-ish. Those are both solidly 1600ish, and, when combined with the fact that, from what we see in the Light Novel, the military tactics of the regiment that Guiche is placed with, is based around blackpowder musket units, means that it's actually more advanced than it would initially seem.

Plus, the Thirty Years War was historically cool, and I like the way that Roundheads look. You can't ask me to use Oliver Cromwell without proper Roundheads.

Socially, yes, they're backwards; they still have feudalism (in part, because no equivalent to the Black Death to break the old landholding systems... which tells you that the Great Contagion didn't reach here, and it's a damn good thing that no-one got summoned from Creation then), and the middle-classes role is mostly played by the inexprimé houses, at least in Tristan - though Germania is another matter.

And even if it was earlier, people underestimate the amount of trade and travel that even happened in the medieval times. Now, with that said, neither Albion nor Gallia has found an America-equivalent... they have, however, found other floating islands, and Gallia has colonies on the Iceland equivalent, as well as more conventional island landmasses. There are tales, though, of in the far West, of places so thick with floating rocks that it appears to be a dome above the world, vast areas of sea stuck in eternal night that never see the sky, and of strange creatures that live on the underside of these floating landmasses that dwarf Albion.

Also, there be sea dragons. And sky dragons.

GhostStalker said:
Very interesting info on the tribesmen that became Germania and how Tristain was pushed back. I guess the barbarians are analogues of the Germanic peoples the populated the area during the Roman Empire and the eventual barbarian migrations that forced them west and south and led to the fall of the Empire? Or are they more like the Mongol hordes that threatened Middle Ages Europe. Going off of your previous posts, I would guess the latter.
Broadly more Mongolian, yes. The Germani may have been called barbarians by the Brimiric nations, but they had their own sophisticated culture. The conquest of old Tristan resembles more the Mongol foundation of the Yuan Dynasty in China, as I mentioned.

GhostStalker said:
What about the rest of the world? I'm assuming that the Elves are analogues of the Muslims, what with them controlling the Holy Land, the analogue of the Iberian Peninsula, and the Sahara Desert. What about that other named country: Rub-al-Khalid or something like that? Is that supposed to be the Ottomans or something like that? Is there a Russia analogue? What about India, China, or Japan?
The Germani bought tales of other civilisations, yes, and other tribes and cities (many of which they raided). But when their lands tore themselves apart, their steppes wrecked despite their prayers to the spirits of the earth and the winds, they lost all track of them. The former lands of the Germani are now a fell place, rocky and impassable, broken land and volcanoes. Craters are everwhere, and where there are not craters, there are vast upswellings of rock, areas flooded with liquid fire, torrential gales that blow eternally, and inland toxic seas which swirl eternally as whirlpools... you know, not-nice places.

You remember the final level of KotOR II? Like that, but less green-Malfeas-glow, crossbred with the Ash Wastelands of Morrowind.

What's that, Louise? Yes, they most certainly are areas of desolation. Why do you ask?

Only a few have returned, but they indicate that the lands of Cathay were invaded by the other Germani, who seem to have done the same as their Western cousins. Cathay, likewise, lacks the mages of the Brimiric nations, but it is said that they are well schooled in strange, lesser sorceries which are learnt by all; arts of alchemy and weather control and astromony, and that they consort and breed with the spirits.

But now the elves control the only passages to the east. Likewise, elven fleets prevent attempts to sail south, to the Africa equivalent. That's part of the reason that Gallia, Albion, and Romalia all sponsor expeditions to the West; it is argued by some that the world is round, and so it might be possible to avoid the elves, and their unnatural forces and fleets, by heading the long way around. But others fear that the elves are everywhere and that they will not allow men outside of the known lands.
 
EarthScorpion said:
Yes, that was the bunny. :D



They have an English Albionese Civil War going on, and I personally see Germania as Thirty Years War-ish. Those are both solidly 1600ish, and, when combined with the fact that, from what we see in the Light Novel, the military tactics of the regiment that Guiche is placed with, is based around blackpowder musket units, means that it's actually more advanced than it would initially seem.


Plus, the Thirty Years War was historically cool, and I like the way that Roundheads look. You can't ask me to use Oliver Cromwell without proper Roundheads.


Socially, yes, they're backwards; they still have feudalism (in part, because no equivalent to the Black Death to break the old landholding systems... which tells you that the Great Contagion didn't reach here, and it's a damn good thing that no-one got summoned from Creation then), and the middle-classes role is mostly played by the inexprimé houses, at least in Tristan - though Germania is another matter.


And even if it was earlier, people underestimate the amount of trade and travel that even happened in the medieval times. Now, with that said, neither Albion nor Gallia has found an America-equivalent... they have, however, found other floating islands, and Gallia has colonies on the Iceland equivalent, as well as more conventional island landmasses. There are tales, though, of in the far West, of places so thick with floating rocks that it appears to be a dome above the world, vast areas of sea stuck in eternal night that never see the sky, and of strange creatures that live on the underside of these floating landmasses that dwarf Albion.


Also, there be sea dragons. And sky dragons.




Broadly more Mongolian, yes. The Germani may have been called barbarians by the Brimiric nations, but they had their own sophisticated culture. The conquest of old Tristan resembles more the Mongol foundation of the Yuan Dynasty in China, as I mentioned.




The Germani bought tales of other civilisations, yes, and other tribes and cities (many of which they raided). But when their lands tore themselves apart, their steppes wrecked despite their prayers to the spirits of the earth and the winds, they lost all track of them. The former lands of the Germani are now a fell place, rocky and impassable, broken land and volcanoes. Craters are everwhere, and where there are not craters, there are vast upswellings of rock, areas flooded with liquid fire, torrential gales that blow eternally, and inland toxic seas which swirl eternally as whirlpools... you know, not-nice places.


You remember the final level of KotOR II? Like that, but less green-Malfeas-glow, crossbred with the Ash Wastelands of Morrowind.


What's that, Louise? Yes, they most certainly are areas of desolation. Why do you ask?

Only a few have returned, but they indicate that the lands of Cathay were invaded by the other Germani, who seem to have done the same as their Western cousins. Cathay, likewise, lacks the mages of the Brimiric nations, but it is said that they are well schooled in strange, lesser sorceries which are learnt by all; arts of alchemy and weather control and astromony, and that they consort and breed with the spirits.


But now the elves control the only passages to the east. Likewise, elven fleets prevent attempts to sail south, to the Africa equivalent. That's part of the reason that Gallia, Albion, and Romalia all sponsor expeditions to the West; it is argued by some that the world is round, and so it might be possible to avoid the elves, and their unnatural forces and fleets, by heading the long way around. But others fear that the elves are everywhere and that they will not allow men outside of the known lands.
Hmm, that's roughly how I imagined ZoT's world setting, though I would peg the setting to be around the late 1600/early 1700 period, but that's just me. The idea of the Elves was one I thought up too, for a separate idea of mine, though I was drunk at the time :D.


Though it should be mentioned that anyone with any amount of education knew the Earth was Round. The people who thought it was flat are the equivalent of modern Flat-Earth loons.
 
bigreader said:
HI, I read the chapters today and have some question about the story and its back story. What did Louise merge with? Is it really her familiar, a proper void familiar and if so, what is she Gandalfr, Heart, Windalfr?
I read the wiki on Exalted and I'm wondering is the spirit an exalted or something else their enemy? If this isn't a proper real void familiar will she summon one in the future and is she still capable of void magic?
In reverse order: No, she is no longer capable of void magic. If she gets a familiar, it will be through the system Infernal Exalts get them rather than the Halkeginian Mage system. I don't know what spirit you're referring to, and your question needs to be reworded to make sense. It is not her familiar. Louise merged with a 1st circle demon, which became her coadjutor, transforming Louise into an Infernal Exalt.
 
Ok. I have read the story, and Looked at Exalted just so I know the basics. But I want to know some more now. Could you be so kind, EarthScorp, to fill me in on the subtle aspects of Exalted?
 
Noxturna said:
Ok. I have read the story, and Looked at Exalted just so I know the basics. But I want to know some more now. Could you be so kind, EarthScorp, to fill me in on the subtle aspects of Exalted?
You have a few weeks?

In other matters, this thread over on RPG.net is a wonderful source of all the best things that are Exalted.
 
Noxturna said:
Ok. I have read the story, and Looked at Exalted just so I know the basics. But I want to know some more now. Could you be so kind, EarthScorp, to fill me in on the subtle aspects of Exalted?
You'll need to be more specific. Exalted has dozens of books over two editions worth of material. Is there anything specific you need to know?


I would recommend reading the corebook, Games of Divinity and Manacle and Coin to get the best overview of the setting.


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Noxturna said:
Ok. I have read the story, and Looked at Exalted just so I know the basics. But I want to know some more now. Could you be so kind, EarthScorp, to fill me in on the subtle aspects of Exalted?
The others have mentioned a few sources, but I'm going to give a little advice: Don't assume that any labels given to effects and creatures are in the context of our world, or any real world religions.

For example, in Exalted, demons are either sapient personality fragments of a cosmic entity, or spirits created by those fragments that were designed to serve them.

Another example is something being a Creature of Darkness. It might sound like something inherently evil. In reality, it just means that the creature is on a list of things that the Unconquered Sun disapproves of, and he has several classes of being branded with it automatically, regardless of their behavior.
 
Delusionist said:
The others have mentioned a few sources, but I'm going to give a little advice: Don't assume that any labels given to effects and creatures are in the context of our world, or any real world religions.


For example, in Exalted, demons are either sapient personality fragments of a cosmic entity, or spirits created by those fragments that were designed to serve them.


Another example is something being a Creature of Darkness. It might sound like something inherently evil. In reality, it just means that the creature is on a list of things that the Unconquered Sun disapproves of, and he has several classes of being branded with it automatically, regardless of their behavior.
Being a Creature of Darkness generally means you are personnally, or your nature is something anti-thetical to creation, hence the classification. Also some poor things are Creatures of Darkness because their Nature is naturally opposite that of the Celestials, such as Five-Days Darkness, who the Unconquered Sun doesn't even know about, as he is his shadow and hence a creature of darkness by default.
 
Gore17 said:
Being a Creature of Darkness generally means you are personnally, or your nature is something anti-thetical to creation, hence the classification. Also some poor things are Creatures of Darkness because their Nature is naturally opposite that of the Celestials, such as Five-Days Darkness, who the Unconquered Sun doesn't even know about, as he is his shadow and hence a creature of darkness by default.
It would be more accurate to say that the Unconquered Sun has decided that he thinks that you are "a threat to Creation", or he really doesn't like you. Louise, in fact, is a Creature of Darkness innately now, despite the fact that any threat to Creation she might pose is somewhat restricted by the fact she has no clue where it is. But because she's now essentially a human glued to a stripped down Solar Exaltation that has been modified to work as a power source to run elements of the metabiology of the creators of Creation which are basically stapled onto her (or, as we call them, Yozi Charms), she's a Creature of Darkness. After all, she has the capacity to get the Yozis' ability to tell a god to "Do your fucking job, slag", and the Sun doesn't want that.


She's also Outside Fate, because she generates her own causality and so doesn't need the Loom of Fate or an equivalent device or system to maintain it for her.
 
EarthScorpion said:
It would be more accurate to say that the Unconquered Sun has decided that he thinks that you are "a threat to Creation", or he really doesn't like you. Louise, in fact, is a Creature of Darkness innately now, despite the fact that any threat to Creation she might pose is somewhat restricted by the fact she has no clue where it is. But because she's now essentially a human glued to a stripped down Solar Exaltation that has been modified to work as a power source to run elements of the metabiology of the creators of Creation which are basically stapled onto her (or, as we call them, Yozi Charms), she's a Creature of Darkness. After all, she has the capacity to get the Yozis' ability to tell a god to "Do your fucking job, slag", and the Sun doesn't want that.


She's also Outside Fate, because she generates her own causality and so doesn't need the Loom of Fate or an equivalent device or system to maintain it for her.
However, we know that sidereals also have the ability to tell spirits to do their job, so it can't just be that he objects to. I was under the impression that it more had to do with them looking to much like Akuma so they are automatically branded creatures of darkness.


Also, I could have sworn that there are at least a few beings who exists entirely to prove that the Unconquered Sun can be a jerk about who he decides is and isn't a creature of darkness.
 
sebsmith said:
However, we know that sidereals also have the ability to tell spirits to do their job, so it can't just be that he objects to. I was under the impression that it more had to do with them looking to much like Akuma so they are automatically branded creatures of darkness.
No, the "do your fucking job" ability of Cecelyne isn't the main reason that the GSPs are Creatures of Darkness; that's just one of the amusing things, that the Endless Desert has the ability in her Charms to actually make Heaven run again, rather than be the pit of villainy and scum that it is right now.


Incidentally, Heaven in Creation, Yu Shan, is one of the only Heavens to have homeless, unemployed gods sleeping on park benches under newspapers, or squatting in abandoned buildings because they can't afford the rent. Imagine Yu Shan as Washington DC, if it was the size of Russia, and you won't be too far off.

It's the fact that a Primordial is their Charms, and so when you even know one little Charm, you have internalised into your metabiology part of that Primordial. And more-so if it's an Excellency; for example, Louise having the First Malfeas Excellency means that she has internalised the most basic precepts of what Malfeas is.


The GSPs are Creatures of Darkness, because they're meant to be gilted reflections of Yozi glory, and are proto-newborn Titans. And they're Outside Fate because they're metaphysically too large to be snagged by Fate; they don't need it.


Also, because it trolls the Sidereals. :D
 
EarthScorpion said:
It would be more accurate to say that the Unconquered Sun has decided that he thinks that you are "a threat to Creation", or he really doesn't like you. Louise, in fact, is a Creature of Darkness innately now, despite the fact that any threat to Creation she might pose is somewhat restricted by the fact she has no clue where it is. But because she's now essentially a human glued to a stripped down Solar Exaltation that has been modified to work as a power source to run elements of the metabiology of the creators of Creation which are basically stapled onto her (or, as we call them, Yozi Charms), she's a Creature of Darkness. After all, she has the capacity to get the Yozis' ability to tell a god to "Do your fucking job, slag", and the Sun doesn't want that.


She's also Outside Fate, because she generates her own causality and so doesn't need the Loom of Fate or an equivalent device or system to maintain it for her.
Eh, sort-of. She's a Creature of Darkness because of her intimate connection to the Yozi. The Unconquered Sun hasn't actually updated the list of Creature's of Darkness for over a millenia if I remember correctly, so he can't add new threats or take things off it like he used to. Also, I believe it's been mentioned that he's never used that ability for personal reasons, he has to truly believe that something is a threat to creation.


It's probably just easier to create broad stroaks like: 'Death-tainted', 'The Wyld-Tainted' and 'Yozi tainted'. For most of history whenever these things wandered around it meant they were up to no good, and stating specific exceptions would be easier than just stating every threat to creation.
 
Creature of Darkness is purely political, and not often employed against individuals (declaring someone a Creature of Darkness unless the target is a true threat to Creation violates his Temperance which renders him vulnerable). He's declared certain broad swathes of beings as Creatures of Darkness, instead in order to trawl a large net of potential threats.


Ghosts, for example, are Creatures of Darkness because they're death-aspected. Unshaped Fair Folk are also threats for obvious reasons. However he never bothered to declare Shaped Fair Folk Creatures of Darkness, the implication being either they never existed in sufficient numbers to warrant it until the Balorian Crusade (in which case, he's being lax in his duties) or he never considered them a threat to Creation at all (which is, kind of bizarre but maybe he trust Luna to handle them).


As a not, Alchemical Exalted would definitely not be on the list, nor would Autocthon or his subsouls. Its heavily implied neither would Gremlins or Syndrome effected Alchemicals, either. Which may be a rather large hole in his net, if the Locust Crusade occurs.


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Ok, been going over things.


Don't know if I missed it or not, but big question for me while I go over Exalted is does Louise still have her Void Magic, or did that get overwritten?


Other then that, no major questions right now. Found the Exalted Complete Collection online, and downloading it. Working though Corebooks as they finish and what not.


Either way, if she still does, then lets hope she never gets back to Creation. Because Void+Exalted power=Magic Wipe. Louise will basically be able to break everyones magic left right and center basically, give or take certain occasions and situations. All the more reason she needs a trip there.
 
No, it was stated earlier in the thread that she lost her Void Powers. She essentially replaced a nuclear fission reactor with a anti-matter reactor.
 
Really? Dam. Void was one of the things that made her interesting, and the fact that she could always break someone else's magic.


Oh well, still good.
 
Noxturna said:
Really? Dam. Void was one of the things that made her interesting, and the fact that she could always break someone else's magic.


Oh well, still good.
First: You misspelled damn.:p

Second: Who needs Void Magic when your a Eldritch-Abomination-powered, Eldritch-Abomination-slaying, Eldritch-Abomination Baby?
 
It goes by blood, so probably her Sisters. That is, unless the Trade-in renders the Void Aspect Null, or it is buried so deep under her new powers that there is no chance of using it unless something happens to her powers as a Exalted.

Really wish Earth was online, so he could clear it up. If Louise still her her Void powers, it would make things really interesting especially to her new Room-mate in her head, if she went around breaking peoples magic. But if not, then its cool. A interesting new approach if nothing else, and thats always a good read.

While I take a break from the slow work of Covent, I have been tossing around a few ideas similar myself, and a few ones like that Reversing summoning to another world bit I mentioned in Breaking In. D.Gray Man has remained my focus for that idea, since its simply too awesome otherwise not to picture the chaos that Louise would cause in the D.Gray Man world on both sides.

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Gore17 said:
First: You misspelled damn.:p

Second: Who needs Void Magic when your a Eldritch-Abomination-powered, Eldritch-Abomination-slaying, Eldritch-Abomination Baby?
The Dam is a habit carried over from playing too many games that have Language Filters. You cut things down to get past them. Dam is indeed a intentional but habitual misspelling of Damn.

And secondly, that may be true, but there is nothing like being a Eldritch-Abomination and laughing after saying "Ha! Where is your vaunted Magic now?"

That, and if she ever ended up in creation, it would make her stand out besides being another of the Exalted running around. It would make people think, and wonder, how the hell this tiny pink haired Child is breaking Magic from guys who have been doing it for their entire lifetime. That, and while not deep into the material so far, Magic Breaking on the scale of Void is pretty much unheard of.

But like I said, Meh. It would be some of the same-old, but it is interesting same-old. I like this new approach.
 
Gore17 said:
First: You misspelled damn.:p

Second: Who needs Void Magic when your a Eldritch-Abomination-powered, Eldritch-Abomination-slaying, Eldritch-Abomination Baby?
It's 'you're'.


Your: Possessive, to indicate something belongs to or is done by someone


You're: Combination of "you" and "are".
 
Aaron Peori said:
As a not, Alchemical Exalted would definitely not be on the list, nor would Autocthon or his subsouls. Its heavily implied neither would Gremlins or Syndrome effected Alchemicals, either. Which may be a rather large hole in his net, if the Locust Crusade occurs.
Hmm. In fact, I strongly suspect it wouldn't be possible to declare Creatures of the Void to be Creatures of Darkness, without also affecting Autocthon. After all, the Void-taint runs so strongly through his Charmset that it's even corrupted his Sorcerous Initiation, which is why Alchemicals use Protocols.


The Sun would probably have to personally declare each Creature of the Void a Creature of Darkness, if he didn't want to affect Autocthon. Well, unless he could do a "everything with that Autocthon-like Essence pattern, apart from Autocthon", and I'm not sure that could work.

Noxturna said:
Either way, if she still does, then lets hope she never gets back to Creation. Because Void+Exalted power=Magic Wipe. Louise will basically be able to break everyones magic left right and center basically, give or take certain occasions and situations. All the more reason she needs a trip there.
Nah, as mentioned, she's running on an overclocked Solar Exaltation right now, which burned out all her Essence pathways. She does have Solar Circle Sorcery (well, the 3rd purchase of Malfeas Sorcery Initiation) waiting for her, though.


And, well, even if she did, she'd be all DISPEL! And then they'd be all;




and then Louise would be all;




And then someone would have to point out that dispelling your magic would be Shaping and people have Shaping defences, and even then, they still have swords which resemble sharpened surfboards and she's all squishy when she's using her Cast Void Magic action.


And then that'd be a BAD END.
 
Aaron Peori said:
Creature of Darkness is purely political, and not often employed against individuals (declaring someone a Creature of Darkness unless the target is a true threat to Creation violates his Temperance which renders him vulnerable). He's declared certain broad swathes of beings as Creatures of Darkness, instead in order to trawl a large net of potential threats.


Ghosts, for example, are Creatures of Darkness because they're death-aspected. Unshaped Fair Folk are also threats for obvious reasons. However he never bothered to declare Shaped Fair Folk Creatures of Darkness, the implication being either they never existed in sufficient numbers to warrant it until the Balorian Crusade (in which case, he's being lax in his duties) or he never considered them a threat to Creation at all (which is, kind of bizarre but maybe he trust Luna to handle them).


As a not, Alchemical Exalted would definitely not be on the list, nor would Autocthon or his subsouls. Its heavily implied neither would Gremlins or Syndrome effected Alchemicals, either. Which may be a rather large hole in his net, if the Locust Crusade occurs.


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The Sun can easily add someone to his Roll of Enemies even now--he just doesn't because to do so frivolously would remove his invulnerability--so it would require him to take time to scrutinize his target before adding him to The List, and he's too busy trying to figure out why he hasn't won the Games yet to take that step.


As such, he absolutely Could declare Autochthon and everything attached to him as Creatures of Darkness--he just won't, because it would violate god-only-knows how many of his Intimacies (At the very least, he'd need to suppress Compassion to violate his 'Pity' Intimacy towards Autochthon, and he'd need to violate Temperance to declare him such--despite the fact he Left Creation rather then risk starting a war. That's half of his Virtues gone right there, and there's a solid case for dropping Conviction and Valor too if you're twisty enough)


He can't even declare Gremlins as CoDs either, because it's Part of Autochthon, which leads to the previous issue before. As long as the Great Maker lives, the only magic that would work well against Gremlins are Axiomatic effects.
 
EarthScorpion said:
Hmm. In fact, I strongly suspect it wouldn't be possible to declare Creatures of the Void to be Creatures of Darkness, without also affecting Autocthon. After all, the Void-taint runs so strongly through his Charmset that it's even corrupted his Sorcerous Initiation, which is why Alchemicals use Protocols.


The Sun would probably have to personally declare each Creature of the Void a Creature of Darkness, if he didn't want to affect Autocthon. Well, unless he could do a "everything with that Autocthon-like Essence pattern, apart from Autocthon", and I'm not sure that could work.




Nah, as mentioned, she's running on an overclocked Solar Exaltation right now, which burned out all her Essence pathways. She does have Solar Circle Sorcery (well, the 3rd purchase of Malfeas Sorcery Initiation) waiting for her, though.


And, well, even if she did, she'd be all DISPEL! And then they'd be all;




and then Louise would be all;




And then someone would have to point out that dispelling your magic would be Shaping and people have Shaping defences, and even then, they still have swords which resemble sharpened surfboards and she's all squishy when she's using her Cast Void Magic action.


And then that'd be a BAD END.
Alright, Alright. I get it. No Void.


Eh, I will probably get the point of how strong she is after I finish the Material. But for now, can you give a clear and concise description of her power level when compared to others in the General running?
 
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