A Golden Island To The West — California ISOT from 2018 to 1850
- Thread starter Instant Sunrise
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- Original 19th Century Supernatural
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- California
I'd assume it would be either closest relative, or the state.
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- California
Waves hands... You saw nothing...
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- Canada
I dunno, I should totally use that name at some point in my QQ "To Fucking Industrialize a Harem Fantasy" quest. It would fit well in such a world as a last name.
So what say you about my "Where and wherefore art thou, SJW?" idea?
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- California
Some will. But a huge part of anti-vaxx on the left is born from the fact that actual infectious diseases are remote from them. It's a bit different when you see what a pre-vaccination culture looks like (Or to put it differently, outside of California, the rest of the world makes the modern day third world look good when it comes to diseases). You'll get some mind you, because we also have people who still honestly claim the earth is flat, but they'll be pretty insignificant.
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- California
Hey now, california actively requires children in public schools to be vaccinated by law, with no exceptions. I went one to type a line of expletives about the measles parties, but deleted them.
Instant Sunrise
Queen Shit of Liesville
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- Los Angeles
- Pronouns
- her/she
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- United States of America
Well I'm not sure about the for their own good part but I would have not problem if Califronia seized everything north to the end of the world and everything east to the longitude 105 west.
If we go by the records and memoirs where Tibet is mentioned by rulers from neighboring countries, traders, as well as visitors from Europe and China... and its own people that emigrated from there- the overall image is really bleak.
It may very well be one of the rare cases where a communist invasion was "the best thing to happen". Do that ever feels weird to write.
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- United States of America
Probably as rare as saying fascists did something good.
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- Canada
The Communists claim they were invited by the Tibetan Militia who were, presumably, revolting against their theocratic overlords. Given the Tibetan delegates to Beijing ratified this without Dalai's approval: Seventeen Point Agreement for the Peaceful Liberation of Tibet - Wikipedia and the delegation leader specifically said it was done without duress (Dalai denies this) I'm pretty inclined to believe them, so perhaps "invasion" isn't quite the right term.
Dalai wouldn't happen to have been in California in 2018 in recognition of a people's successful vote to secede from a major power, would he?
(BTW by California leaving, the USA would drop to 4th largest from 3rd, falling behind China in undisputed land area)
Oh crap, I just looked the current Dalai Lama up. He was born in 1935... which means he was about 24 when he fled to India in 1959.
He knew EXACTLY what he was promoting a return to, unless the Chinese Communists arriving had beaten the worst parts under the rug before he was quite informed of them, but... I'm pretty sure he'd have been instructed about all the important traditions already by age 15 (i.e. 1950).
Conclusion: If he's been Translocated with California, he's going to stay very, very quiet, probably go incognito and fade into the crowd.
If he can't pull that off, he will have to hope old age gets him before Californians return from visiting Tibet. This isn't hard though. He's 83 in 2018, and it'll likely be about 20 years before California has stabilized quite enough to bother to figure out a way to convince Qing China to let them visit Tibet, so unless Buddha really, really shafts him by keeping him alive to well past 100...
Every anti-smoker in the world would like a word with you on that one. Nazi Germany was the first country to campaign against smoking.
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Instant Sunrise
Queen Shit of Liesville
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- Los Angeles
- Pronouns
- her/she
Update coming this weekend
13.3K Whites, but your point is accurate.California will have no problem taking Orgeon, Washington, etc.
in 1850, there are 13,294 in the entire Oregon Territory.
With 39 million people in California and far superior logistics, the local populatoin will simply be overwhelmed, in a few months at best.
Indeed, given the logistics, population difference, proximity to medical care/markets/education/etc; it is very easy to picture the Anglo settlements being functionally assimilated within a decade or so with no action on CA's part.
"Treating the Injuns like people took some getting used to, but everything else? It's a good deal."
Nice to hear you got your gear fixed/replaced.
And that friend, is the joke. For he was raised in that culture and partook in it.
And a certain 3 letter agency knew of that well as they set him up as a martyr.
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- Canada
Aye, and when Californians finally learn what a heap of garbage the CIA fed them all these years, well... Fun Times ensue.
If he was in California at the time and hadn't managed to escape or die of old age by then, the public is going to beat him like a Sister Drum... AFTER they're finished with him.
If he was in Cali and died by the time Californians were confronted with the proof... I wouldn't be surprised if they exhume him.
I thought he'd fled to India in like 1951 or something and was born in about 1940 or later, as in knew nothing, because he didn't look all that old in photos I'd seen of him. Therefore, I didn't hate him nearly as much before today as he deserves... which is about as much as I hate Shiro Ishii, who also had a habit of flaying people. Well, at least the Heavens are watching, given how Ishii died.
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- United States of America
Another interesting person would be Prince Andrew Romanov who is the current heir the Russian throne and also happens to live in Inverness, California. I wonder how Tsar Nicholas I is going to react if Andrew was in California when the event happened.
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- Canada
"Sobering to hear that without reform our dynasty would fall... but it is good to see that some of my descendants have managed to survive. Come, have a drink with your grandfather's grandfather... who is much younger than you... The Hell's wrong with your sons though? No issue except one granddaughter, from three sons who married more for love than for duty??? That's not a great endorsement of love matches, you know!"
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Zap Rowsdower
Ex-cultist vagrant
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- Bright lights, big city
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- He/Him
Indeed, the chances of Tenzin Gyatso/Lhamo Dondrub having immediate political impact on Tibet are slim - he'd die before he could make any difference, and what differences he'd desire to make are a question that would get very different answers depending on who you ask. The man himself is unlikely to make much difference.
Religious impact once the Tibetan Buddhists find out an extra copy of the Dalai Llama's soul appeared and is MIA once he dies, now that's another story. I could easily see somebody using that to find his reincarnation and use such as a proxy for a takeover bid by essentially presenting a religiously valid rival claimant - and the chances of that somebody being an external power seeking to conquer Tibet (for good or for ill) are high.
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- Ruralcratic Dominion of Nebraska, Dumbfuckistan
...all things considered, that is indeed something Buddha would do.
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- California
so basically, this is saying that less than 1 percent of the population isn't immune? Thereforr it worked?
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- the Literature Club
Imagine this: you're a publishing house in California and you're approached by a writer who wants you to give him money for his latest novel.
Oh and by the way, the name's Herman Melville. You may have heard of me.
There are people who will become known as the Greatest Writers of Literature and they're alive right now in 1850 and this is your chance to snap them up.
God, can you imagine how much money someone who locks Charles Dickens into an exclusive 10 novel contract is going to make?
Oh and by the way, the name's Herman Melville. You may have heard of me.
There are people who will become known as the Greatest Writers of Literature and they're alive right now in 1850 and this is your chance to snap them up.
God, can you imagine how much money someone who locks Charles Dickens into an exclusive 10 novel contract is going to make?
ExNihilo
SPACE!
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- USA
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- He/Him
I recall from my high school lit class that Dicken's writing was influenced by the fact he was paid by the word, so it was especially verbose. I wonder how his writing style would change if modern publishers didn't care about that.
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- the Literature Club
Yup. On the other hand, Alexandre Dumas was paid by the line, which is why the three musketeers is full of dialogue that's terse and punchy.
But yeah, there's a ton of literary rock stars who you could get to write Never Before Seen Works for you. There's Victor Hugo, Wilkie Collins, Jules Verne, Lewis Carroll (hey kids, who wants the epic final chapter of the ALICE IN WONDERLAND TRILOGY?), George Elliot... fuck me, there's TOLSTOY AND DOSTOEVSKY!
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- Singapore
*Squeeess*