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A Golden Island To The West — California ISOT from 2018 to 1850

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So, talk of Expiration Dates?

Would CA go the route of making bottled drinks with Juices filled with vitamins and saying it will help your health?

A big disclaimer on top by picture because many cannot read?
 
TerraBull said:
So, talk of Expiration Dates?

Would CA go the route of making bottled drinks with Juices filled with vitamins and saying it will help your health?

A big disclaimer on top by picture because many cannot read?
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Depends on where you sell it.

Most of Europe had a good literacy rate with schooling being in some nations mandatory by law.
 
TerraBull said:
So, talk of Expiration Dates?

Would CA go the route of making bottled drinks with Juices filled with vitamins and saying it will help your health?

A big disclaimer on top by picture because many cannot read?
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I believe exporting fortified salt would be an better idea.

You could prevent a large amount of developmental issues caused by iodine deficiency
 
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Simple education as well. I mean, sure there's no way 100% of downtimers have access to fresh fruits and vegetables but at least some knowledge on nutrition will solve a lot of deficiency-related diseases.
 
I remember there were snips of Fruits & Veggies in Storehouses.

They can Vacuum Seal the stuff, right?

Dried Fruits & Veg?

Better than Spoilage?
 
If you give them sugar from beets, and suggest making more jam, it would already improve the food and nutrient situation.
Beet shavings can be used to feed livestock, rising meat production. By themselves beets enrich the soil for later farming.
Downtime world only started selective growing of them two decades back.
7 out of 10 top producers of sugar beets are in Europe IRL.
 
Let's not give the downtimers High-Fructose Corn Syrup. Why? Just look at the chemical cycle cells use to break down fructose.



A high long term intake of HFCS-derived pure Fructose (bereft of the typical plant fiber, when you eat fruits, which means it is absorbed even more by the small intestine) is comparable to Alcoholism to what it does to the liver (both are liver toxins) and the rest of the body over long periods of time...AND EIGHT TIMES MORE ADDICTIVE THAN COCAINE!
 
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Durabys said:
Let's not give the downtimers High-Fructose Corn Syrup. Why? Just look at the chemical cycle cells use to break down fructose.



A high long term intake of HFCS-derived pure Fructose (bereft of the typical plant fiber, when you eat fruits, which means it is absorbed even more by the small intestine) is comparable to Alcoholism to what it does to the liver (both are liver toxins) and the rest of the body over long periods of time.
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It's eight times more addictive than cocaine. That's enough of a clue.
 
Admitedly high-fructose corn syrup only became a thing in sodas in the US because at the time it was introduced there was a major sugarcane shortage and then people got used to it.
 
A lot of preservative methods relay on sugar, be it canning or freezing. So a raise in demand by food industries will quickly outstrip what can be gathered from canes in limited harvesting areas.
Cali's food industry, and demand on import of fruits (or their preserved versions) will likely send a ripple through the already strained industry. 1850 sugar is still considered a luxury item, due to price and harvest yields.

Right now everyone has some in their homes, in 2in1 coffee sticks, cubes, 1kg bags etc.
40 million sugar addicts demanding their fix.
Instead of Victory gardens, everyone will be prompted to plant a Sugar garden!
 
Durabys said:
This...is an interesting idea. It wouldn't be that difficult.
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I'm sure they could do it, in 20-30 years. In our timeline.

With our world producing 2 billion tones of sugar cane a year, and 300 milion tones of sugar beets, we are still short hundreds of millions of tones.
Last year Brazil's SC harvest fell short 10 million tones, and this year is the same, and we are facing a crisis that resulted in prices going up for nearly all food products.
 
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we are still short hundreds of millions of tones.
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I think that being more sugar-conscious will help a lot of people use the Translocation as an incentive to make the leap to consume less sugar.

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we are facing a crisis that resulted in prices going up for nearly all food products.
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It may be the case that the next generation is simply raised on a rather less sugary diet? At least, very rarely consuming sodas?
 
Refrigeration tech will help. Granted, individual refrigerators are unlikely to be doable for some time, but big, freezer house models? There are a lot of designs in the OTL that were only a few decades off, so it's doable. which means that you can make ice really cheap. Which means it ecomes easy to install iceboxes, resulting in better preservation, while also helping employment.

remember, California wants to be very careful about just exporting stuff, especially stuff that may see lots of people out of work. The key word has to be uplift, uplift, uplift, for moral, economic and political reasons.
 
To be fair, you can use high fructose corn syrup to substitute sugar. It's been happening since at least the 80s I think.
 
Like I noted before high-fructose corn syrup only became a thing in sodas in the US because there was a major sugarcane shortage(I admittedly only know about it because my parents told me about it) and then people got used to it and the soda companies just continued to use it rather than go back to cane sugar.

When it comes to artificial sugar substitutes they aren't necessary better given from what I recall there is a issue where the body can't quite properly use them though it still stores it as fat.

Edit:Though that last part might be uncertain they are apparently having issues with bias towards wither artificial sugars are good or bad, likely owing to the fact both the artificial sweetener and the sugar industries have lobbies and invested interests to protect by promoting studies that favor them.
 
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I have a thought. Downtimers will really love uptime comics. It's inexpensive and easy to dub in other languages, so they'd be popular worldwide. Also, they can be used not only for entertainment, but also for education, news, instructions, and other stuff.
 
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I have a thought. Downtimers will really love uptime comics. It's inexpensive and easy to dub in other languages, so they'd be popular worldwide. Also, they can be used not only for entertainment, but also for education, news, instructions, and other stuff.
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Wouldn't there be a lot of cultural dissonance due to over 100 years of cultural change?
I can see people getting some laugh out of children comics. But superheroes in 21 century settings sounds like a serious stretch.
 
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