A Game of Supers (The Gamer/Original Superhero Setting)

Plan all but one is super excessive. That's the type of shit that gets people noticed and asked pointed questions. We're just trying to quietly infiltrate the gang, not put a spot light on ourselves and if we show ourselves to be that capable of robbing four of the five houses by ourselves in a week, we'll be throwing up red flags. Like, seriously. We've already been told our actions will have consequences, let's be careful for now.
Because I personally don't see anything wrong with it becoming known that we are a rather skilled thief. We wouldn't even be showing off the full extent of our capabilities with these heists, all it's really showing is that we are good at multi-tasking and planning.
 
Because I personally don't see anything wrong with it becoming known that we are a rather skilled thief. We wouldn't even be showing off the full extent of our capabilities with these heists, all it's really showing is that we are good at multi-tasking and planning.
I think you are severely underestimating how hard that B&E's are. We would not just be broadcasting that we are a good thief, we would be also saying that we have a lot of experience and confidence as well. Think about your 14 year old self. Now think about how hard it would be for you to break into 4 different houses, with security, people, and dogs inside them to fight you off, and succeed within the time span of a week. Sit and think about that. Now look at your local gang recruiter and sit and think what that would reveal about this short obviously young girl who basically just walked up to me and asked to join my gang.

I would be A). Suspicious you are a spy for another gang. B). Suspicious you have some sort of super power. C). Suspicious that you did it alone to begin with. Along with a lot of other things

None of those things are what we want him to be. We do not want to reveal too many of the skills we have. Keeping them to ourself and only giving it when we need to is the best option for us right now.
 
I think you are severely underestimating how hard that B&E's are. We would not just be broadcasting that we are a good thief, we would be also saying that we have a lot of experience and confidence as well. Think about your 14 year old self. Now think about how hard it would be for you to break into 4 different houses, with security, people, and dogs inside them to fight you off, and succeed within the time span of a week. Sit and think about that. Now look at your local gang recruiter and sit and think what that would reveal about this short obviously young girl who basically just walked up to me and asked to join my gang.

I would be A). Suspicious you are a spy for another gang. B). Suspicious you have some sort of super power. C). Suspicious that you did it alone to begin with. Along with a lot of other things

None of those things are what we want him to be. We do not want to reveal too many of the skills we have. Keeping them to ourself and only giving it when we need to is the best option for us right now.
I think you are severely overestimating how hard B&Es is. The biggest thing is confidence to actually go and do it and not waste time. My plans require a total of 2 skills to be good at, Acting and Punching, and Punching is only a back up.
Middle Class, we literally just walk in when no-one is there. Lockpicking helps make it easier, but we could have totally just broke the lock or a window or something. And lockpicking ain't that hard a skill.
Lower-well, we pretend to be someone's friend and steal shit. That shit happens a ton, less-reputable friends stealing from their more well-to-do friends houses. All it takes is some extra acting skill to solve the fact that we AREN'T their friend, but hey. Tons of real-life examples of people pulling off much more complicated bluffs.
Well, just some dogs. Easy to solve, just drug them. And the only reason we are doing that instead of killing them is because I didn't feel like killing dogs. This ALSO happens a ton, often times just by dog-hating neighbors who aren't even wanting to break in, just want to kill a dog by giving them some poisoned meat. The hardest part here is getting some dog-sedatives.
Second Richest, this is the most impressive of the break ins, and isn't THAT impressive considering the various other scams and hustles people pull on a semi-regular basis. If our bluff fails, then we just prove we can physically over-power 4 people we caught by surprise. Pretty impressive, but still not "Hot Damn!"

All doing all 4 is showing is that we ARE ambitious. We want to be a part, we want to impress, and we will work hard and not slack off.

As far as the gang knows, we aren't 14. We tried to pretend to be around 24, and even if our disguise might have been a tad lack-luster our acting should have been MORE than sufficient to sell it. We are just a short young looking lady, those exist.
Edit: I feel the need to emphasize this point. Our acting is so good that we have the chance to fool people who KNOW we are 14. We are a HELL of a good actor, and it isn't unreasonable at all that we are simply short and young looking. Midgits are a thing after all, and if we took care of ourselves with make-up (which they probably did notice we were wearing, low Disguise Skill), we can easily appear rather young.

We will be showing off next to none of our skills. The acting required is rather small and mostly only requires being quick on our mental feet, the lockpicking is stuff someone could pick up over a weak (even normal people), and the kungfu is impressive but not unbelieveable for someone who rather enjoys kungfu since none of our targets will be all that tough or numerous.
 
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We don't want to show ourselves as being ambitious. We want to fit in. Maybe a bit above average in records, but reliability and precision rather than excess.

Second, they may not want us to do more-they might be seeing how well we stick to the instructions.

Third, those may be only a fraction of our skills, but they are a pretty unusual skillset. None of them are notable individually, but together they are particularly notable.

Finally, it's simply a risk with no real reward. We don't particularly want the results, even if we succeed.
 
[X] The well-off house: This one had only one person living in it, and that person was away for most of the day, but on the flipside, there were four guard dogs protecting the place.
[X] Calling the owners and scamming them into giving extra information. The info you received about the targets included telephone numbers, so that was easy.
-[X]Prioritie is security measures(with atention to the dogs skill), folowed be location of valuables, folowed be schedule
[X] Focus on raising the level of the skills you already developed.
[X] Learn a useful miscellaneous skill.
-[X] Lock picking
[X]Of the skills you're training or learning this week, which one you wish to help with the trigger? (Lock picking
 
We don't want to show ourselves as being ambitious. We want to fit in. Maybe a bit above average in records, but reliability and precision rather than excess.

Second, they may not want us to do more-they might be seeing how well we stick to the instructions.

Third, those may be only a fraction of our skills, but they are a pretty unusual skillset. None of them are notable individually, but together they are particularly notable.

Finally, it's simply a risk with no real reward. We don't particularly want the results, even if we succeed.
Why do we not want to be ambitious? That's probably the biggest point of difference, since it goes with your fourth point. The only down side I can see from ambitioun is increased attention, but the attention should be easily dealt with our acting and disguise skills. And having to put up with it is belayed by all the upsides of being higher up in an organization, that being increased resources and Intel. We will get access to shit we never would otherwise.

I HIGHLY doubt that given the incredibly vague nature of the instructions. If they wanted to test that, they'd have given us more instructions than "Steal something from one of these houses, you pick of what house, and be here this time next week".

How is the combo unusual? Are no popular girls (people who would be able to seduce a horny boy, or atleast get him to play into her hands) also passingly good at MA?

See response number 1.
 
Why do we not want to be ambitious? That's probably the biggest point of difference, since it goes with your fourth point. The only down side I can see from ambitioun is increased attention, but the attention should be easily dealt with our acting and disguise skills. And having to put up with it is belayed by all the upsides of being higher up in an organization, that being increased resources and Intel. We will get access to shit we never would otherwise.

I HIGHLY doubt that given the incredibly vague nature of the instructions. If they wanted to test that, they'd have given us more instructions than "Steal something from one of these houses, you pick of what house, and be here this time next week".

How is the combo unusual? Are no popular girls (people who would be able to seduce a horny boy, or atleast get him to play into her hands) also passingly good at MA?

See response number 1.
It is not a question of our ambition, it is a question of our caution. It seems like you just want to throw it to the wind. No, we do not want to be known right now nor do we want to be known as ambitious.

Ambitious people are the ones to watch for, they are the ones who try and take your place in the gang. Nah.
 
Why do we not want to be ambitious? That's probably the biggest point of difference, since it goes with your fourth point. The only down side I can see from ambitioun is increased attention, but the attention should be easily dealt with our acting and disguise skills. And having to put up with it is belayed by all the upsides of being higher up in an organization, that being increased resources and Intel. We will get access to shit we never would otherwise.

I HIGHLY doubt that given the incredibly vague nature of the instructions. If they wanted to test that, they'd have given us more instructions than "Steal something from one of these houses, you pick of what house, and be here this time next week".

How is the combo unusual? Are no popular girls (people who would be able to seduce a horny boy, or atleast get him to play into her hands) also passingly good at MA?

See response number 1.
I thought we were just spying to learn information for our eventual actions. Also, it'll be easier to recruit people to join US stealthily if we aren't a prominent member. Also, even if we do plan on allying with the leader directly, I got the impression of them as someone who'd rather work with a subtle professional than a more overt person. Finally, if we want to rule from the shadows, we should actually BE IN the shadows.

True, but i thought i'd mention it.

Fair enough. I just don't believe you about lockpicking taking only a week to learn, nor that it would be normal levels of acting.
 
As I've said, if we wanted to attract attention we'd reveal we have powers. And we'd still have the option to not reveal some of our powers or abilities.
 
It is not a question of our ambition, it is a question of our caution. It seems like you just want to throw it to the wind. No, we do not want to be known right now nor do we want to be known as ambitious.

Ambitious people are the ones to watch for, they are the ones who try and take your place in the gang. Nah.
How am I throwing caution to the wind? Simply being ambitious is no more throwing caution to a wind than joining the gang in the first place. We are being known regardless, so might as well be known as ambitious than a lazy slacker who only does the bare minimum.

Not really. People who try to take your place are ambitious people, but not everyone with Ambition is a Star Scream. Else gangs would only consist of 1 Boss, and a bunch of lazy people who only do what they have to. Usually, gangs have several rather skilled and involved people, lieutenants and second-in-commands and stuff.
I thought we were just spying to learn information for our eventual actions. Also, it'll be easier to recruit people to join US stealthily if we aren't a prominent member. Also, even if we do plan on allying with the leader directly, I got the impression of them as someone who'd rather work with a subtle professional than a more overt person. Finally, if we want to rule from the shadows, we should actually BE IN the shadows.

True, but i thought i'd mention it.

Fair enough. I just don't believe you about lockpicking taking only a week to learn, nor that it would be normal levels of acting.
Who would be in the position to learn more information, someone who is at the bottom of the totem pole and can be ordered around by everyone, or someone near the top and is privy to almost everything going on?

We won't be part of this gang anymore once we go solo. And no-one will know our future persona was this Cat Burglar. That's one of the main advantages to Acting and Disguise, we can very easily become someone else and new at a drop of a hat, keeping our various identities separate. So once we get done with this little venture in the lime-light and taken all the shit we need (info and otherwise) we can easily fade back into the shadows.

You should look up lockpicking then, specifically something called bump-keys. Unless the person springs for a really high-grade and expensive lock (and for some reason don't just go electronic), it's extremely easy to pick a residential lock with modern tools tools you can buy off the internet for 15 bucks. The only skill that comes up is getting it done quickly and inconspicuously, both of which can be non-issues depending on the location of the door we are picking.
Edit: Here's a good video on how to go about lock picking and why most locks are very not secure.

As for the acting, I assume you are referring to the hustle for the Second Richest house since the other one I mentioned involved simple popular-girl level of manipulation. It might not be everyday shit, but I highly doubt there aren't a dozen people in the city with similar levels of acting skills, considering how easily people are fooled by people simply keeping calm and not looking suspicious while they say whatever. Example
Article:
Frank Abagnale, the notorious con artist the book and film Catch Me If You Can are based on, used this to pull off many of his cons. In one instance, he purchased a security guard's uniform and stood at a bank's overnight depository, telling patrons who pulled up to make their deposits that the depository was broken but that he would be more than happy to secure their money. According to IMDb, they planned to include the same scam in the movie, but, during filming, people came up to Leonardo DiCaprio in costume and tried to give him their money.
Source: TV Tropes: Bavarian Firedrill: Real Life

The fact that people were trying to give Leonardo DiCaprio their money, despite the fact that there were probably many cameras and other things nearby to indicate that they are filming a movie, leads me to believe that it really ain't that hard to fool people with some quick acting and not sticking around long. And, as I mentioned, we very well might just resort to fist-i-cuffs.

As I've said, if we wanted to attract attention we'd reveal we have powers. And we'd still have the option to not reveal some of our powers or abilities.
Because there is a difference between the attention someone with powers would get, and the attention someone good at stealing would get. Especially since, what would we even say is our power that isn't too close to the truth? Our power isn't very varied.
 
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Oh yeah, I agree that we probably shouldnt' have. But everyone else chose it, but we are left to just rolling with it, making the best of the situation.
I suppose it works. I don't agree, but that's what the vote is for. I reserve the right to say "I told you so"
The point of debating is that we don't agree, and are trying to convince eachother (or anyone else reading our well-crafted argument) to vote for our plan.
Also, I don't even understand how you can say "I suppose it works" while also saying "I don't agree". We were arguing over whether it'd work.





Also, those voting for Girl Scout, is there any reason there except for trolling purposes? Because that seems excessively silly way to raid those houses.
 
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Only one house is being robbed that way, the other is being robbed when no one is there.
 
Only one house is being robbed that way, the other is being robbed when no one is there.
Even if only one is being robbed that way, it's still an excessively silly way to go about it. And for those who were just arguing that attention is the last thing we want, it'd draw a lot more attention than any other way, considering it'd be rather easy to attach "That psychotic girl scout" people are talking about to the new recruit who was assigned to rob that house.
 
[X] The well-off house: This one had only one person living in it, and that person was away for most of the day, but on the flipside, there were four guard dogs protecting the place.
[X] Calling the owners and scamming them into giving extra information. The info you received about the targets included telephone numbers, so that was easy.
-[X]Prioritie is security measures(with atention to the dogs skill), folowed be location of valuables, folowed be schedule
[X] Focus on raising the level of the skills you already developed.
[X] Learn a useful miscellaneous skill.
-[X] Lock picking
[X]Of the skills you're training or learning this week, which one you wish to help with the trigger? (Lock picking)
Changing my vote
 
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