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A Game of Crowns (Mafia)

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*groans*

I should've known better than to claim fuckall

Now Est and 1K are going off into la la land together and the thread is stalled with setup bullshit that's not even correct
 
Feels like a damn repeat of dragonball

@Nictis: I think I need to straighten this out before people start building lynch rationales from it, even though it means sharing some significant flavour. You cool with that?
 
Evenstar said:
Feels like a damn repeat of dragonball

@Nictis: I think I need to straighten this out before people start building lynch rationales from it, even though it means sharing some significant flavour. You cool with that?
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Gimme a minute, need to figure out a way to respond to this. I have my answer, but I need to find the most politic way to say it.
 
*Trying to phrase things in a way that gets it across without giving it away, fails*

So, I know more than some might expect. What I do know lets me get a feel on what the general setup is, and it gives me the expectation that giving out too much information to the public is worse than usual for the gamestate.
 
QTesseract said:
Cult without saying isn't impossible, but it is bastard in a way that these games usually aren't. It's not that having a cult that isn't known from the start is neccesarily unbalanced, but it's actively unfun and that's even worse. I'm not sure about Lostdeviljho's stance on the matter but I know Pawn has been involved in these discussions, so between that and the flavor I'm >90% confident that there isn't a cult.
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To expand on this if there is a cult we'll know after night 1, because unnanounced cult + Serial Killer is really bastard. The only possible exception to this I can think of is if we have some roles that reveal the existance of cult in their description. As I said, I'm >90% sure there's no cult, but if your role PM mentions cult, say so now.


Anyway, I kind of want to lynch -Rosen, but after last game I have no choice but to admit that this is just how they play and is thus NAI, and I've got some good vibes off nictis for once, so I can't do my normal push on them for being scum as always. I have to consider my options a bit more.
 
QTesseract said:
As I said, I'm >90% sure there's no cult, but if your role PM mentions cult, say so now.
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Seconding this, but with an added warning to only say if it mentions cult. Perhaps mention if it says it as a definite thing, don't share if it's just mentioned to you or part of your role mechanics.

I will say that I have not gotten word of any cult, and I have my own reasons separate from the others to doubt its existence.
 
Nictis said:
*Trying to phrase things in a way that gets it across without giving it away, fails*

So, I know more than some might expect. What I do know lets me get a feel on what the general setup is, and it gives me the expectation that giving out too much information to the public is worse than usual for the gamestate.
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If you think knowledge is unusually precious here, I'll trust you for now.
 
Well, don't I just feel ignorant. Feels kinda like I shouldn't be more ignorant than other town but /shrug. Guess I'll accept it.

1KBestK said:
I don't really have any scumreads that I'd consider adequate for lynching atm. Considering the rosen push, considering nictis, considering you. None of it is certain enough.
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[X] Lynch 1KBestK

Howsabout we start with this then? I don't either, tbh. All this talk's gone and given me little to nothing in terms of reads. But hey, might as well vote anyways, right?
 
Wooh, Mondays suck for me, I'm basically stuck in classes or club shit from 8AM to 10PM. I gotta catch up on the past several pages, but in the meantime, enjoy a brief PSA:

TurtleDucks is your friend, don't lynch them!
 
Nanimani said:
Well, don't I just feel ignorant. Feels kinda like I shouldn't be more ignorant than other town but /shrug. Guess I'll accept it.


[X] Lynch 1KBestK

Howsabout we start with this then? I don't either, tbh. All this talk's gone and given me little to nothing in terms of reads. But hey, might as well vote anyways, right?
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Rood! I guess i'll actually start on getting those notes I said I was gonna make together and put down a vote if you FIENDS will continue to demand I do WORK.
 
Quick question before I read this another thirty times without comprehending what it means. What is NAI?
 
TurtleDucks said:
Quick question before I read this another thirty times without comprehending what it means. What is NAI?
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I go to wiki.mafiascum.net for explanations of terms I don't get. (Which is most terms).

Or just google "[term]" and "mafia". Which usually works, or gets you cool organized crime history. So win-win.
 
And generally other players or GMs are more than willing to explain unknown terminology.

Though honestly we should probably update the terminology guide in the megathread at some point. It needs a revamp by now.
 
Now is probably a good time to ask, if I am switching my lynch target from one to another, do I still need to nullify my original vote first?
 
TurtleDucks said:
Now is probably a good time to ask, if I am switching my lynch target from one to another, do I still need to nullify my original vote first?
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It's a courtesy, it helps anyone who happens to be running tallies by hand or making vote logs.

Since me and Comi stopped doing that, I'm kinda curious if anyone does it anymore? It's still appreciated, since it makes it obvious that you're changing vote rather than initiating, but it's not needed.
 
Reads so far (or, "1K fumbles with notetaking")...
  • Mesonoxian - Is acting pretty friendly, not sure if trying to buddy up with people or if it's genuine. Has seemed generally impressionable. They're a new player, so I'm reading this as genuine. Need to keep watch to see if anyone's leading them astray, and if I'd warn Meso to not sheep as much (although some sheeping is expected if you're a beginner). Scum will try and be your friend. Be aware of that.
  • -Rosen - Doing weird stuff as usual. I agree that they're somewhat sus, but the arguments Nictis lays out don't convince me, so unless I get a better grip on what they're doing/trying to do, they're probably staying in my null category. One thing I've noted is that they seem to be pretty deliberate and careful with their posting even when not scum, so I'm worried I'm missing the reasoning.
  • Look to the Left - Needs to post more.
  • Cyricubed - Was my mason buddy last game, and probably the person who knows my play the best. Unfortunately, I still am not very good at reading them, so while I like what they've posted so far, but I'm unsure if my town lean on them is just leftover from being their teammate. I nearly always townread them to my recollection. Their lynch vote seems decently weak, but it is day 1.
  • PyrrosWarrior - Needs to post more.
  • Est - I don't really have a strong read on Est, which worries me a little based on their post count. Clearly still adapting to SV's ruleset.
  • QTesseract - I don't think anything they've posted so far has been alignment indicative, but I can't read QT for shit. They're usually pretty analytical.
  • InterstellarHobo - I don't like the wagon they joined, so I'm a little suspicious. They're a new player though, so some sheeping is expected. Hasn't posted too much.
  • 1KBestK
  • Nanimani - Did a fair bit of meming, not done much of actual value yet. Effectively no real content so far.
  • TurtleDucks - New player, having fun acting sus. I don't like the lynch on them. Their behavior has been pretty coy, but not really in a way I'd consider alignment indicative. They definitely like their wine, though. Claims not in a QT. Just made a weird vote on Cyri... Unsure.
  • Nictis - Claims to have a role that gives them knowledge that makes them believe that we should keep information tighter than normal. Started a pretty unconvincing Rosen wagon. Generally being townread and I'm townreading them to some degree, but I'm worried they're gonna lead us astray.
  • Happerry - Needs to post more.
  • DimensionalGuy - Needs to post more. I have a bad feeling about them, but I'm 90% sure that's because I really don't like their avatar.
  • BanTheFairyKing - I like them arguing against the Rosen wagon, but not much else besides that to talk about. Needs to post more actual content.
  • Absum - I can't read Absum very well, TBH.
  • Evenstar - I'm bad at reading Evenstar, but this whole neighborhood thing kinda has me flipflopping. I'm mostly leaning towards town, although I really don't agree with the vote on TD. Has been a town leader as usual, which is always going to make me suspicious.

Honestly, I'm no closer to a lynch vote than I was when I started putting this together.
 
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