The Votann being willing to trade with others doesn't equate to them being willing to commit to lasting alliances that would see them risking the lives of their people for others. They haven't the motivation to go that far. They're not living under the threat of annihilation at this point in time like most other folk are and allying with the Coalition, a human faction, would only put a target on their backs by increasing the risk of their discovery by the Imperium an occurrence that they are keen to avoid.
As for the the Squats in Necromunda, they are completely distinct from the Leagues of Votann. Their ancestors could be rightly said to have been proper members of the Leagues of Votann when they arrived on Necromunda in the aftermath of the Horus heresy, but after millennia of living apart from them have turned them into their own distinct culture, and there is little to say that their actions and attitudes are reflective of the greater Votann population.
In fact, the Squats on Necromunda being the only ones to refer to themselves as Squats, points to them being outliers.
I'm 90% sure I read something in the LoV articles about them being an officially sanctioned mission from the Leagues, and calling themselves "Squats" means nothing considering using pseudonyms when interacting with people outside the Core is their standard operating procedure.
The Votann were so rarely encountered by other humans the Imperium didn't even know to think that there was another faction in play. I have my doubts that a group of people that show up so rarely is one that the Coalition is particularly likely to come across.
I'm 90% sure I read something in the LoV articles about them being an officially sanctioned mission from the Leagues, and calling themselves "Squats" means nothing considering using pseudonyms when interacting with people outside the Core is their standard operating procedure.
The Votann being sent to Necromunda being sanctioned doesn't change the fact that they're the only ones that got sent out there. One expedition to one hive world, millennia ago, is weak evidence for the Leagues not being isolationist.
As is the fact that they're the only group of Votann out there that call themselves squats, because that points to there having been no other expeditions like theirs and there being no other groups of Votann out there that interact with other humans to the degree that they do, once more disqualifying the Necromunda squats from being a useful example of the Leagues not being isolationist.
Well, the Taiidan gravity well generators in the original Homeworld campaign were able to create a field intense enough to pull the Mothership out of hyperspace, so artificially generating the gravity a grand cannon would need might not be impossible and building a ship at least six kilometers long would be easy enough for the Kushan.
I don't think that gravwell technology got further developed past the state that was in the first Homeworld game though, which might complicate things a mite. Gravwell generators back then were a one and done kind of equipment. The underlying technology was poorly understood so the things would burn out for good after a short period of operation.
Unless the Coalition invests in furthering their understanding of how gravwell generators work ship mounted grand cannons might end up being one shot wonders that have to have critical internals rebuilt after each firing.
Well, we do have some of the greatest minds in human history with us, even if Da Vinci never actually studied gravitational forces in depth during his/her lifetime. And Macross has some artificial gravity as well.
If all fail, we can replicate the Battle Astrea's Mega Cannon, although we'll make a version that isn't dependent on having a singer around.
Just think of it. In twenty years, all Orcs will be fitting pinkish lenses onto their energy weapons, because pink hues will be synonymous with SUPERIOR FIREPOWER thanks to us.
Also, are any members of the Jenius-Fallnya family included in the Macross faction ?
Just think of it. In twenty years, all Orcs will be fitting pinkish lenses onto their energy weapons, because pink hues will be synonymous with SUPERIOR FIREPOWER thanks to us.
Just think of it. In twenty years, all Orcs will be fitting pinkish lenses onto their energy weapons, because pink hues will be synonymous with SUPERIOR FIREPOWER thanks to us.
Red, White, and Blue all work for the Orks due to them being primary colors, while Black works due to some old connections from Warhammer Fantasy, and Green works because the Orks are green; really, for developing a color based empowerment for Pink they would likely need to first develop one for White, as pink is not really a color that you can get from mixing stuff from what they currently have.
as even orks might need to obey color theory; or at the very least what they have right now seems to fit within it.
It's because the original Macross Cannon had a pink tinge to its blasts, and it made pink sparks while loading up. Same thing with the Grand Cannon, I think.
They'll try to have pink blasts for the same reason they scavenge Commissars's caps : because they think those things are innately powerful.
It's because the original Macross Cannon had a pink tinge to its blasts, and it made pink sparks while loading up. Same thing with the Grand Cannon, I think.
yea, that would be the why we could influence them towards pink if we could influence them; the question really is if we can create that large of a renaissance in their WAAAGH field within the first few decades(versus over the course of several millennia, which is what I think it would take).
basically? from my perspective, we are more likely to prompt the rise of a new Beast than to have think that pink is better than yellow for firepower.
yea, the Orks, when pressed to the point of being threatened with elimination as a faction, will absolutely, and almost spontaneously, develop a Beast level WAAAGH; as there has to be some reason why even the Eldar Dominion in its heights(before their gods withdrew, or at the very least before the Pleasure Cults took over the core of their society) could not eliminate Orks from the galaxy, and that is the closest thing to a major response from the Ork-WAAAGH field that I've heard about from the books.
Adhoc vote count started by BobTheNinja on Apr 11, 2023 at 8:08 PM, finished with 143 posts and 17 votes.
[X] Federal Union - Each faction has limited autonomy, and the federal government has greater direct authority over the laws and internal affairs of member polities, or at least can set formal laws establishing what is and is not allowed for local-level policy. High difficulty.
[X] Confederal Union - Each faction is largely sovereign within their own territory and internal affairs, but establishes a federal-level organization with representatives from each faction, which will set policy affecting the coalition and its people as a whole and manage foreign affairs, global trade, and collective defense. Though mostly autonomous in their own affairs, members will be expected to adhere to certain shared social/civil values, or risk formal censure. Moderate difficulty.
[X] [Write-In] Greater Daiamid - All factions, regardless of size, are recognized and given a place and voice in the ruling Daiamid. Laws are universally applied but must be agreed upon by those seated on the Greater Daiamid. Newly founded factions will also be granted a place on the Daiamid. Additionally the Daiamid exists as a place where legal disputes between factions are resolved.
Adhoc vote count started by BobTheNinja on Apr 11, 2023 at 8:08 PM, finished with 143 posts and 17 votes.
[X] Federal Union - Each faction has limited autonomy, and the federal government has greater direct authority over the laws and internal affairs of member polities, or at least can set formal laws establishing what is and is not allowed for local-level policy. High difficulty.
[X] Confederal Union - Each faction is largely sovereign within their own territory and internal affairs, but establishes a federal-level organization with representatives from each faction, which will set policy affecting the coalition and its people as a whole and manage foreign affairs, global trade, and collective defense. Though mostly autonomous in their own affairs, members will be expected to adhere to certain shared social/civil values, or risk formal censure. Moderate difficulty.
[X] [Write-In] Greater Daiamid - All factions, regardless of size, are recognized and given a place and voice in the ruling Daiamid. Laws are universally applied but must be agreed upon by those seated on the Greater Daiamid. Newly founded factions will also be granted a place on the Daiamid. Additionally the Daiamid exists as a place where legal disputes between factions are resolved.
so going by homeworld lore the hyperspace cores are irrepleaceable one of a kind relics for long range jumps,once we have rasputin once again online we should give him the task to develop ways for making hyperspace cores as well stargates (homeworld 3)
Also, good catch about the cloning technology...though making use of it wisely will require a lot of social research and planning, or else it could end up straining the culture of the Coalition.
Catgirls (and catboys) are indeed the best.
The pointy ears some Zentraedi have are also great.
There's a character in a manga I'm fond of, Owari no Seraph, Mika, who has both.
Well, the cat ears part only look like cats ears when his hood is up, they're actually demon horns, but he's still cute.
Hmmm, I'm not too fond of our alliance being called a federation. Lots of shows use it, and something that stands out would be better.
A League, or a Federacy. The only show with a Federacy is 86 with the Giad Federacy, and I can't remember anything with a League in it.
It probably shouldn't have "of Planets" in its name : a sizeable share of our population will likely wind up living on orbital stations, on colony ships or on moons. What do you think of the Empyrean Federacy or Celestial League ? Empyrean means "of the heavens".
How much work should a Macross EX-gear need to be a full suit of powered armor ?
It already has a jetpack, rollerblades, and gauntlets that can punch through concrete : all we need to do is add extra armour and maybe some more batteries.
Was Durarara!! ever published in the Fate timelines, or in the distant past of the Nier and Destiny timelines ? It was published in 2004 in our world. If so, we'll have to keep all copies far away from any Dark Eldar ; they'll want to imitate Erika and Walker's torture methods, and then many manga shops will run out of stock.
How bullshit is the tech in Lancer ? I've never played it.
so going by homeworld lore the hyperspace cores are irrepleaceable one of a kind relics for long range jumps,once we have rasputin once again online we should give him the task to develop ways for making hyperspace cores as well stargates (homeworld 3)
You're thinking of the Long Jump cores, those were built by an ancient precursor species so far advanced that the second most advanced species in the galaxy couldn't ever figure out how to replicate them and the Bentusi were no slouches.
The manufacture of hyperspace drives is known to all factions in Homeworld and the Taiidan knew how to make hyperspace gates and a third of the Hiigaran population here are Taiidan.
Catgirls (and catboys) are indeed the best.
The pointy ears some Zentraedi have are also great.
There's a character in a manga I'm fond of, Owari no Seraph, Mika, who has both.
Well, the cat ears part only look like cats ears when his hood is up, they're actually demon horns, but he's still cute.
Hmmm, I'm not too fond of our alliance being called a federation. Lots of shows use it, and something that stands out would be better. A League, or a Federacy. The only show with a Federacy is 86 with the Giad Federacy, and I can't remember anything with a League in it. It probably shouldn't have "of Planets" in its name : a sizeable share of our population will likely wind up living on orbital stations, on colony ships or on moons. What do you think of the Empyrean Federacy or Celestial League ? Empyrean means "of the heavens".
How much work should a Macross EX-gear need to be a full suit of powered armor ?
It already has a jetpack, rollerblades, and gauntlets that can punch through concrete : all we need to do is add extra armour and maybe some more batteries.
Was Durarara!! ever published in the Fate timelines, or in the distant past of the Nier and Destiny timelines ? It was published in 2004 in our world. If so, we'll have to keep all copies far away from any Dark Eldar ; they'll want to imitate Erika and Walker's torture methods, and then many manga shops will run out of stock.
How bullshit is the tech in Lancer ? I've never played it.
Well, what type or name do you think our new state/government should have then? The new united federation of species, was a suggestion as, it was somewhat nod to the federation of man that was the predecessor of the imperium of man.
Well, the Empyrean Federacy, the Celestial League, the Interstellar League, the Galactic Federacy (might sound too close to Galactic Federation), the Empyrean League, the Celestial Commonwealth…
Honestly i like the name of "coalition" it sends the message of being made up of multiple factions and also being a alliance made with a porpuse in mind
You're thinking of the Long Jump cores, those were built by an ancient precursor species so far advanced that the second most advanced species in the galaxy couldn't ever figure out how to replicate them and the Bentusi were no slouches.
Well, what type or name do you think our new state/government should have then? The new united federation of species, was a suggestion as, it was somewhat nod to the federation of man that was the predecessor of the imperium of man.
The russian model of semi-independent republics inside a federal state as a rough skeleton for administrative structure
Probably follow a athenian democracy (leader is appointed by random ballot then a confirmation votes is made to assure everyone agrees) and the leader has checks and balances (with council having the ability to recall the leader and repeat the process quickly for a new one if needed)
I'm sorry but Rasputin would have to become a caricature of a cliche smart character to make that happen. We're talking about a technology that Homeworld's equivalent of the First Ones failed to fully replicate despite having untold thousands of years to examine it.
I should note that I'm literally only using the Coalition as a place holder name until we pick up something better (at least, I don't think it's that great of a name myself, but if everyone disagrees then fair's fair). I'll include some name suggestions in the next major vote.
Also, as a heads up, full establishment of the Federal Government will likely take at least a year before its fully up and running.
A whole year, really ? Are we going to be able to build and research stuff during that time at least ?
As a mode of government, I propose that we set up a direct democracy (sort of like a referendum) using electronic communications as a means for voting, with a chamber of representatives that propose laws and take power during times of emergency.
