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I'd say two and a half. After all, there was still Oni Li gnawed by his strength.
I'm only counting the gang bosses, since those are the one she said she'd kill. Oni Lee was just collateral.I'd say two and a half. After all, there was still Oni Li gnawed by his strength.
Is any of this sentence besides the end punctuation missing?Ack said:
Aww. Still, you have rater been spoiling us with the frequency of updates here recently, and I do understand you've other things you need to do. Thanks for writing!Ack said:I'm going to be slowing down my output after this chapter, as I have other writing to do.
Eh, I'd guess that one's actually pretty simple: just kill him. Without him and Oni Lee, what's left of the ABB's foundation? And any successor organizations from the remnants, well: Atropos took down Lung. After taking down the E88, and Coil. Would you want to step up to try and take Lung's place?CmptrWz said:
Nope. @Ack is correct. Disproving a negative only requires an example of the corresponding positive. Proving a negative requires an exhaustive search and even then you can't be certain you didn't miss something. What Tattletale missed is that with the right powers in play, you can establish that the probability of the negative being true is high enough that you might as well treat it as true which is what the PRT did with Gallant, the empath, and Armsmaster, the tinker with a high-end lie detector.impossible to DISprove a negative, proving a negative is quite easy...
Not only that, but it was his father's sword, that was wielded by a real Kaiser.So Kaiser was dealt with by basically a falling Sword of Damocles.
Yes, yes, he was. A swinging sword of Damocles, but yes.So Kaiser was dealt with by basically a falling Sword of Damocles.
Oni Lee was a message. One that two people have ignored, so far.I'm only counting the gang bosses, since those are the one she said she'd kill. Oni Lee was just collateral.
"End the hard drug trade in Brockton Bay." She doesn't give a shit about weed. Enough heroin and crack dealers are found dead with their products shoved into their body cavities, the rest of the dealers will have second thoughts.Aww. Still, you have rater been spoiling us with the frequency of updates here recently, and I do understand you've other things you need to do. Thanks for writing!
Eh, I'd guess that one's actually pretty simple: just kill him. Without him and Oni Lee, what's left of the ABB's foundation? And any successor organizations from the remnants, well: Atropos took down Lung. After taking down the E88, and Coil. Would you want to step up to try and take Lung's place?
I'm guessing the Merchants might actually be the most difficult to end the influence of. Coil was a paranoid plotter keeping his cards close to his chest and using bought and coerced underlings; kill him and spill his secrets, and there's him taken care of. The E88 draws on a lot of extant racism, which could lead to problems down the road... but those problems are at least going to be significantly different in character with basically the entire cape roster of the gang taken out in one night. The ABB, see above.
But the Merchants, they're drug pushers. Sure, without the capes, they might be weaker and less organized, but without the enemy gangs, they won't need to be as strong. They've got customers and potential customers all over the place, and history's shown that if you try to solve a pervasive drug problem just by cutting off access to the drugs, what you probably end up doing is driving innovation in the field of drug acquisition -- and depending on what forms that ends up taking, possibly making things worse. In order to seriously end the drug trade in Brockton Bay, she's going to have to drastically reduce people's motivation to buy, presumably by improving their lives so they can stay off them once they've quite and supporting efforts to get them to want to quit.
Why yes, yes it was.Not only that, but it was his father's sword, that was wielded by a real Kaiser.
I love it. This is definitely canon.I'm gonna stopreading Ack's story notes over his shoulderbeing a ninja after this and let Ack take his time for Part Nine.
Brockton Bay 911 Switchboard
January 6th, 0002 Hours
<< transcript begins 00:02:07 01/06/11 >>
Operator: "Nine-one-one. Please state your emergency."
Caller <female voice>: "Police and, and PRT, I think. I'm, I'm working late in the Medhall building, and I heard some shouting from upstairs. I think Max Anders has been murdered by a cape. You better come quick."
Operator: "I'm contacting Police and PRT now, ma'am. I need you to stay on the line until responders arrive, all right? What is your name?"
Caller: [no audio]
Operator: "Ma'am, are you still there?"
Caller: [no audio]
Call location - Medhall Building, 18th floor
Operator: "Line is still open, she's not there anymore though."
<< FIRE ALERT: MEDHALL BUILDING - CAUTION: CLASS 4 HAZARDOUS MATERIALS DETECTED >>
Operator: "Because it looks like a chemical fire just broke out in the basement."
<< end transcript >>
Armsmaster
Three blocks from Medhall, same time.
He was circling through his Downtown patrol route, noting as his helmet chronometer blinked just past midnight. If Atropos was going to make good on her claims, odds were something was going to happen in the next few minutes. Having himself, the rest of the Protectorate and several PRT squad vans and VTOLs already deployed along the most efficient coverage routes ensured that there would be a presence anywhere within the city in ninety seconds or less.
It was a shame that this sort of readiness couldn't be deployed more often, but Atropos announcing precisely when she intended to strike made this operation worth the huge expense.
*Colin. 911 just got a call. Someone inside the Medhall building is saying Max Anders has been murdered by a cape.* Dragon spoke over his comms.
Shit, that means...
"Armsmaster to all units." as he started gunning his engine. "Converge on the Medhall Building IMMEDIATELY. Assume that Atropos and the ENTIRE cape contingent of the Empire 88 is present."
*You think...*
"It has to be Kaiser, and he'd have every cape at his disposal available to try and kill Atropos."
Victor, same time
"Oh, FUCK."
Brad growled at the sight of Kaiser. "I am going to puree that cunt."
"Not now." He then noted Rune and Crusader on the floor. Both members of the E88 capable of transporting the rest... were down. "DOUBLE FUCK."
"What is it?" Nessa asked.
"She took out our aerial transport and we're on top of the building." Victor's phone rang then, the tone indicating it was from the security office on the ground floor. "WHAT?!?"
*Sir, 911 has just inquired us about an automated call. They're saying we have a hazardous chemical fire on site.*
Victor took a moment to note that the building's fire alarms were NOT going off, then swore in half a dozen languages under his breath. The bitch must have rigged those alongside the circuit breakers. "Evacuate the building then, standard procedure." he said before hanging up. He went over to the computer on Max's desk, quickly pulling up the internal security cameras for the sub-basement lab.
The lab that Kaiser's emergency escape elevator behind the office went down to.
It was filled with very ominous and toxic looking smoke.
He mentally ran through his rapidly declining options. Othala granting him flight to carry her and Rune out. Stormtiger could manage Cricket. Alabaster jumping. Fenja and Menja taking Krieg and Crusader and climbing down the outside of the building with Hookwolf.
He went over to the window and saw Armsmaster's motorcycle entering the front plaza. They were out of time. No time to even take Max's body with them.
"We're leaving." Victor said with no emotion at all. He explained his plan while gathering Rune in his arms before his wife climbed on his back. "Split up. Get out of the city. The Empire... is dead."
Now your PFP being Yuffie makes sense.I'm gonna stopreading Ack's story notes over his shoulderbeing a ninja after this and let Ack take his time for Part Nine.
Ah, right, aye, that's a point: it doesn't matter if there's a market if no one dares to sell. And, sure, against mundane law enforcement, even against most capes, that's still reminiscent of trying to decapitate a hydra, if the demand side isn't addressed... but Atropos? Yeeeeah, once she gets to work on it, after a certain point, probably the only ones left are people forced in by distant crime bosses who consider them expendable and people dim and/or desperate enough to try making and selling their own. One or two trips away from the city (...Actually, maybe not even that. Atropos, a notorious cape in Brockton Bay, calls up your local police and/or PRT branch. She tells you that one of your local criminals is forcing people to take drugs into her city. She then proceeds to give you a thorough set of information on how to take them down -- and says that if you somehow still can't manage it with all of that, she'll have to handle it herself and won't be too happy about the inconvenience. Do you a: ignore the problem since it's an out-of-town supervillain trying to get you to take out a rival, or b: take advantage of the situation to take down one of your local criminals before the terrifying distant supervillain replaces "distant" with "annoyed"?) should make it clear the former is not going to fly, and the latter can be handed off to appropriate bodies to hopefully be helped and reformed, since they're hardly hardened super-gangsters.Ack said:"End the hard drug trade in Brockton Bay." She doesn't give a shit about weed. Enough heroin and crack dealers are found dead with their products shoved into their body cavities, the rest of the dealers will have second thoughts.
Exactly.Ah, right, aye, that's a point: it doesn't matter if there's a market if no one dares to sell. And, sure, against mundane law enforcement, even against most capes, that's still reminiscent of trying to decapitate a hydra, if the demand side isn't addressed... but Atropos? Yeeeeah, once she gets to work on it, after a certain point, probably the only ones left are people forced in by distant crime bosses who consider them expendable and people dim and/or desperate enough to try making and selling their own. One or two trips away from the city (...Actually, maybe not even that. Atropos, a notorious cape in Brockton Bay, calls up your local police and/or PRT branch. She tells you that one of your local criminals is forcing people to take drugs into her city. She then proceeds to give you a thorough set of information on how to take them down -- and says that if you somehow still can't manage it with all of that, she'll have to handle it herself and won't be too happy about the inconvenience. Do you a: ignore the problem since it's an out-of-town supervillain trying to get you to take out a rival, or b: take advantage of the situation to take down one of your local criminals before the terrifying distant supervillain replaces "distant" with "annoyed"?) should make it clear the former is not going to fly, and the latter can be handed off to appropriate bodies to hopefully be helped and reformed, since they're hardly hardened super-gangsters.
As this update demonstrates, note that she doesn't have to - to use her own term - tediously kill crime bosses one by one. She can decide on a Path to "Kill capability of criminals in City X to deal drugs in Brockton Bay" and destroy the organization instead of having to play whack-a-mole.Ah, right, aye, that's a point: it doesn't matter if there's a market if no one dares to sell. And, sure, against mundane law enforcement, even against most capes, that's still reminiscent of trying to decapitate a hydra, if the demand side isn't addressed... but Atropos? Yeeeeah, once she gets to work on it, after a certain point, probably the only ones left are people forced in by distant crime bosses who consider them expendable and people dim and/or desperate enough to try making and selling their own. One or two trips away from the city (...Actually, maybe not even that.
She must have a secondary power of being a show off.She cut it so close that we've got security footage of her slipping out through a side door less than a minute before we established a cordon around the building."
Being a parent is basically a second job.She'd known there would be nights like this, and in fact she'd spent more time with less sleep before now rocking Aster back to slumber, but right now felt the worst of all. It always did. With the groan of someone who felt fifty years older than she really was, she levered herself to her feet and stumbled forward.
Smart decision.Returning to the bedroom and setting Aster back down in the crib, she began to feverishly pack.
As are puns.Why, yes, the purveyor of metal spikes has been killed with a pointy metal thing. The irony is intense.
Hah!Except for Lung. You can take her. I have faith in you.
Empire Eighty-Eight ... out.
Remember, Big Sister is always watching and will fucking kill you.I applied myself to my breakfast. Soon I'd have to go catch the bus to school, but that was okay. I knew many ways to kill boredom now, some of which didn't involve drawing untoward attention.
And a few hours after that, I could set about making Brockton Bay a better place.
One drop of blood at a time.
Her Shard isn't as limited as a normal one, and was placed as a bloodthirsty prank; I suspect that especially since she's cheerfully going along with its function of "kill stuff" it's giving her the leeway to be a bit picky about how she kills things. Note that it did guide her on just how to get an appropriate costume and weapon as well; it could have given her a much more boring but functional Path to getting a costume and weapons to kill things with but she wants style, so she got style.
Just to give an insight into how it thinks: it utterly loved her swinging-sword execution of Kaiser. It'll go with "dramatic as fuck" all day long.Her Shard isn't as limited as a normal one, and was placed as a bloodthirsty prank; I suspect that especially since she's cheerfully going along with its function of "kill stuff" it's giving her the leeway to be a bit picky about how she kills things. Note that it did guide her on just how to get an appropriate costume and weapon as well; it could have given her a much more boring but functional Path to getting a costume and weapons to kill things with but she wants style, so she got style.
Sort of the opposite of Leet, whose shard canonically hates him and is trying work within its rules to kill him. Her Shard has a function and it won't deviate from it, as Ack has said previously said; but it seems willing to hand her a Path that does what she wants instead of minimalistic efficiency or playing monkey's paw with her. It's acting more like she's an Entity herself than a host, if you think about it.
Sounds appropriate"Time For People - Atomship" said:I found no people for killing time
So I found time for killing people
Nah, It'd be funnier if skidmark was the only one to be smart enough to leave. Just the realization amongst the locals that of all the gang leaders arguably the one drugged out of his gourd proved to be the smartest.I feel Skidmark should be next. Just to see how the ABB would react
"They killed HIM first?! What am I, chopped liver?"
Also, the bootlicker should stay. In increasingly levels of denial.
Nah. Lung's response would be to claim that she is too scared to face him and hoping he'd leave rather than call her bluff.I feel Skidmark should be next. Just to see how the ABB would react
"They killed HIM first?! What am I, chopped liver?"
A very good point, and TBH that's probably what it would look like to everyone else too.Nah. Lung's response would be to claim that she is too scared to face him and hoping he'd leave rather than call her bluff.