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A Champion in Earth Bet [Worm/Original Setting]

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munchkinomatic said:
So, how a 1-10 scale of of fuck me, where 1 is Godzila feeling grumpy, and 10 is the Necron, Chaos, and the Tyranid hive mind fused into one entity, where would a full power Endbringer be?
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A 7-8? Basically, the three (currently active. There are many more that are sitting unactivated) Endbringers could effectively destroy civilization in a day or two, and all life on the planet in about a week. They could probably destroy the planet itself if they tried hard enough, for long enough, but it would probably be really inefficient and isn't what they are built for.

Scion (or Zion) is the actual BBEG we'd need to overcome, as he is our dark foil. He is the "avatar" (a projection) of the Entity, which is the source of superpowers in the setting. They hand out powers to gather data on power usage (since they are uncreative), then reproduce via exploding Earth in every single dimension simultaneously (or something like that), absorbing all that energy at once. An entity could go toe to toe with a C'tan and win. You need conceptual level attacks or defense to face one head on.
 
Diomedon said:
A 7-8?
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I hope that you're wrong, because otherwise, I would have actually shat my pant.
The tyranid hive mind is the collective minds and biomass of "a dozen galaxies"
Chaos is well... Chaos
The necrons are soulles unkillable steroided Ternimators that may have killed their own star gods (depend on the edition, really) after driving the Eldars, the local Precusors into hiding
Each of these is fighting at suboptimal power and still kicking the Imperium around, the Imperium where a laser that punch through one foot thick concrete is considered "flash light"
Any of these at full power is a galatic extinction event, all of this combined is how God want to make sure you know that he hate your gut with a divine passion.
If this is true, then we need the kind of firepower that would make 40% of the Grimdark 41st millenium shit it pant and the rest to sweat profusely, we need the firepower to stand up to Grimdark Jesus, we need to fart Exterminati and shit Big Bangs

Ac3Royale said:
Anywhere from 1-4, depending on what version of Godzilla we're talking about here.
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Ah yes, this sooth my nerves, the original japanese one, not the American Fakezilla
 
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nahh i will rate an endbringer at4-5 as in the scale you're giving us a full powered zion with all the shards back is about 7
 
Mmmm, I'll admit that I might be underrating Warhammer 40k powerlevels slightly due to the fact that they don't fight like they have the powerlevels they claim in fluff, and my distaste for it bleeding over and causing me to interpret ambiguities in the setting negatively (Reverse-Halo-Effect).

However, pants crappingly terrifyingly powerful is the appropriate response.
 
[ ] Throw the box with Leviathan upward… then blast. And blast. And blast. Hopefully you can tear him apart before he even hits the ground.

If putting him in space is not going to work, and waiting for more capes is only going to give him more targets, then only option is to synergize with flechette if possible and blast him till there is nothing left.
 
Diomedon said:
Mmmm, I'll admit that I might be underrating Warhammer 40k powerlevels slightly due to the fact that they don't fight like they have the powerlevels they claim in fluff, and my distaste for it bleeding over and causing me to interpret ambiguities in the setting negatively (Reverse-Halo-Effect).

However, pants crappingly terrifyingly powerful is the appropriate response.
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Warhammer 40k powerlevels are odd in that there's a huge gulf between its regular rank and file troops and their elites.

Comparing a Tyranid Ripper to a Hive Tyrant is literally the difference between comparing a PRT Officer armed with only a pistol to Lung after he's ramped up a decent amount. If you're familiar with Starcraft, the Zerg wish that they could Zerg Rush as well the Tyranids can.

Necrons are ridiculous because their tiny cruisers are able to blow apart much larger Imperium space vessels and would definitely be able to pull off Exterminatus easily, they even had a Death Star knock-off the size of a planet as one of their space ships.

As for Chaos, there was a scene in one of the many storybooks where a Greater Daemon emerging from the Warp drove every single human in the nearby planets insane simply by being there.

Needless to say, any one of those three factions are capable of putting out much more destruction than an Endbringer and on a far larger scale, by virtue of working on a galactic level.
munchkinomatic said:
Ah yes, this sooth my nerves, the original japanese one, not the American Fakezilla
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The original Japanese Godzilla wasn't that terrifying if I recall correctly, it wrecked a lighthouse and some parts of a town. The Endbringers should be a solid 4 on that scale, with Zion/Scion being much much more dangerous than them.
 
Ac3Royale said:
The original Japanese Godzilla wasn't that terrifying
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Yes, it was only feeding on asians. Now it's eating white people! :o
(I'm kidding)

Ac3Royale said:
As for Chaos
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Fairly certain Khorne could destroy the Galaxy if he wanted to, too. Endbringers are far from being able to achieve destruction on a combined Chaos/Tyranid/Necron faction's level.

What sets the Endbringers apart is that they're fucking resilient. As in, putting them in the middle of a supernova wouldn't kill them.
 
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Warhammer power scale is just weird sometime, low end they're still using M60, on the other end are choked full of acid trip power fantasies.
Isn't there a tinker called Doctor Haywire who speciallized in transdimensional? Can we just throw the endbringers into 40k verse and call it a day? Its not like that place could get any worse.

Isn't the original Japanese Godzilla's the skyscraper tall nuclear breath sea dinosaur, or it is one of the remake? I can't remember for sure.

What is our limit anyway? Silver Surfer or Galactus
 
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tenchifew said:
@sun tzu
Just discovered this, really enjoying the beginning of the quest!
Great writing!
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Thank you!

munchkinomatic said:
So, how a 1-10 scale of of fuck me, where 1 is Godzila feeling grumpy, and 10 is the Necron, Chaos, and the Tyranid hive mind fused into one entity, where would a full power Endbringer be?
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Hm... Consider:
The first Endbringer, Behemoth, is a dynakinetic - control over every type of energy. Anyone who gets within 30 feet of him (save for the toughest, most invulnerable parahumans) gets fried instantly. He can turn a major city into a radioactive crater within hours. More often than not, he absorbs the energy of incoming attacks to use as his own. He once took a direct hit from a blast that was orders of magnitude stronger than the strongest nuke, and all it did to him was cosmetic damage.
The second Enbringer, Leviathan, is both strong enough that he's been known to kill mildly super-strong parahumans in a single stomp, and fast enough that the heroes keep losing track of where in the city he is mid-battle despite him being a 30-feet-tall monster. His hydrokinesis is powerful enough that it has significantly altered geography. He is made of the same crazy-strong material as Behemoth.
The third Endbringer, the Simurgh, has telekinesis with incredible scale and precision - she can drop a building on you, just like she can press the buttons on your power armor to make it self-destruct. She has subtle mind-control powers, to the point that if you stay for too many minutes within her range, your own side will kill you as a security measure. She's as tough as other Endbringers, but doesn't even need to be, because your attacks won't land on her - she's an incredibly powerful precog, who's got most of the battle planned ahead before she even shows up, and who calculates her mind-controlling actions so that they'll have terrible, unexpected consequences months down the line.

Every one of these guys is considered practically invincible. There is an attack every 3-4 months or so, and when that happens, hundreds of superheroes and villains show up - not to kill them, but to try to hurt them enough that they'll retreat without completely destroying the city. Every time, they kill a large fraction of the heroes present, cause untold destruction, and regenerate all their injuries. They are also frustratingly immune to a number of powers, including precognition.
And all of that?
That's while they're sandbagging. When they're pretending the armies of parahumans gathered against them are actually making any difference.
 
sun tzu said:
Hm... Consider:
The first Endbringer, Behemoth, is a dynakinetic - control over every type of energy. Anyone who gets within 30 feet of him (save for the toughest, most invulnerable parahumans) gets fried instantly. He can turn a major city into a radioactive crater within hours. More often than not, he absorbs the energy of incoming attacks to use as his own. He once took a direct hit from a blast that was orders of magnitude stronger than the strongest nuke, and all it did to him was cosmetic damage.
The second Enbringer, Leviathan, is both strong enough that he's been known to kill mildly super-strong parahumans in a single stomp, and fast enough that the heroes keep losing track of where in the city he is mid-battle despite him being a 30-feet-tall monster. His hydrokinesis is powerful enough that it has significantly altered geography. He is made of the same crazy-strong material as Behemoth.
The third Endbringer, the Simurgh, has telekinesis with incredible scale and precision - she can drop a building on you, just like she can press the buttons on your power armor to make it self-destruct. She has subtle mind-control powers, to the point that if you stay for too many minutes within her range, your own side will kill you as a security measure. She's as tough as other Endbringers, but doesn't even need to be, because your attacks won't land on her - she's an incredibly powerful precog, who's got most of the battle planned ahead before she even shows up, and who calculates her mind-controlling actions so that they'll have terrible, unexpected consequences months down the line.

Every one of these guys is considered practically invincible. There is an attack every 3-4 months or so, and when that happens, hundreds of superheroes and villains show up - not to kill them, but to try to hurt them enough that they'll retreat without completely destroying the city. Every time, they kill a large fraction of the heroes present, cause untold destruction, and regenerate all their injuries. They are also frustratingly immune to a number of powers, including precognition.
And all of that?
That's while they're sandbagging. When they're pretending the armies of parahumans gathered against them are actually making any difference.
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Thank you for making it very clear that we are so screwed we may as well be a piece of IKEA furniture

And on a 1-10 scale where one is Thor and 10 is Galactus, where are we?
 
sun tzu said:
The third Endbringer, the Simurgh, has telekinesis with incredible scale and precision - she can drop a building on you, just like she can press the buttons on your power armor to make it self-destruct. She has subtle mind-control powers, to the point that if you stay for too many minutes within her range, your own side will kill you as a security measure. She's as tough as other Endbringers, but doesn't even need to be, because your attacks won't land on her - she's an incredibly powerful precog, who's got most of the battle planned ahead before she even shows up, and who calculates her mind-controlling actions so that they'll have terrible, unexpected consequences months down the line.
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Don't forget her ability to copy any technology encountered, AND her ability to borrow mental abilities.
 
munchkinomatic said:
Thank you for making it very clear that we are so screwed we may as well be a piece of IKEA furniture

And on a 1-10 scale where one is Thor and 10 is Galactus, where are we?
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Well, simple one.

Scion, with his partner Eden, mate by crystallizing the Earth and every parallel Earth, then exploding all the Earths to fuel their mating, recollect all the powers they distributed and depart riding on the shockwave.

You can peg them based on that yourself.
 
veekie said:
Well, simple one.

Scion, with his partner Eden, mate by crystallizing the Earth and every parallel Earth, then exploding all the Earths to fuel their mating, recollect all the powers they distributed and depart riding on the shockwave.

You can peg them based on that yourself.
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You forgot to mention that the number of parallel Earths is canonically greater than the number of particles in the universe.

Galactus is a CHUMP.
 
@sun tzu

So sun, quick question, would it be possible to burn some power here to gain a power to sense weakness/weak points in a enemy and know how much force is needed to hit to it?

As if so, that could allow us to stop firing blind here.
 
sun tzu said:
Yeah. Frankly, just spending time close to Leviathan is already giving the Avatar a much clearer picture of what sort of foe he's dealing with.
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Cool and thanks for the heads up. :)

[X] Plan One Shot
[X] Spend some power to gain a weakness/weak point sense and then focus it on Leviathan to zone in on what you need to finish this.
[X] Throw the box with Leviathan upward and tell the heroes to keep clear of it and share the why. But also tell them to feel free to blast the thing and where they should aim thanks to your new sense.
-[x] Then when your target is up, charge up the needed power to finish this by what your new sense says and destroy the monster with one final overwhelming blast, since we don't have to worry any more about splash damage to our allies.
 
Leviathan is a superspeedster. Betting it all on one attack is kinda exactly the wrong approach since you might miss.
 
FunkyEntropy said:
Leviathan is a superspeedster. Betting it all on one attack is kinda exactly the wrong approach since you might miss.
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Yet we also know he will be stuck in one place here for the few secs we need to deal that one shot without him being able to dodge.

So while he may be fast, his speed really can't help him here if we time this right, which we should have no problem doing.
 
I know I say this a lot, but I will ask again since no one really answer me.
Why can't we just send him into space and start blasting him there? He can't run around, and there isn't any water for him to move around in except for the water he create, which will be evaporated as soon as we blast him with our weakest attack
 
munchkinomatic said:
I know I say this a lot, but I will ask again since no one really answer me.
Why can't we just send him into space and start blasting him there? He can't run around, and there isn't any water for him to move around in except for the water he create, which will be evaporated as soon as we blast him with our weakest attack
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What makes you think he can only use water when it's liquid? The heavy rain currently falling on Brockton Bay isn't exactly natural.
And sending him up, up and away is one of the vote options. It's just far from guaranteed to work, because containing a super-strong speedster isn't a sure thing.
 
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