[X] One little girl is safe, but the city has thousands of people who will suffer if fiends like Coil rule. If you make a compromise like this, where does it end? Can monsters escape justice for their crimes, simply by having enough power, or being useful? No. That is not the world you're fighting for. You're fighting for a world where people like Coil can't prey on the powerless.
A Champion in Earth Bet [Worm/Original Setting]
- Thread starter sun tzu
- Start date
- Location
- Terror Australis
[X] One little girl is safe, but the city has thousands of people who will suffer if fiends like Coil rule. If you make a compromise like this, where does it end? Can monsters escape justice for their crimes, simply by having enough power, or being useful? No. That is not the world you're fighting for. You're fighting for a world where people like Coil can't prey on the powerless.
- Location
- Little Rock, AR
We need to create sufficient incentives for honesty and sufficient disincentives for dishonesty or remove such things as free will entirely from the conversation.
Which is why I say Negotiate force him to the table like any other normal bitch who wants to come in from the cold.
HymnOfRagnarok
Let's Rock
This is a very smart bargain on Coil's part. Honestly, while it's possible something can fuck with his precog (even if he doesn't know it to be such), we've never seen anything yet that stops it. It's still a very good asset.
That said? Coil's still a dick. If he weren't asking for us to tacitly approve his domination of the city and was otherwise offering to turn sides, abandon his enterprises, turn a new leaf, maybe.
This? Nope. Now let's just hope he doesn't unleash Noelle yet.
[X] One little girl is safe, but the city has thousands of people who will suffer if fiends like Coil rule. If you make a compromise like this, where does it end? Can monsters escape justice for their crimes, simply by having enough power, or being useful? No. That is not the world you're fighting for. You're fighting for a world where people like Coil can't prey on the powerless.
That said? Coil's still a dick. If he weren't asking for us to tacitly approve his domination of the city and was otherwise offering to turn sides, abandon his enterprises, turn a new leaf, maybe.
This? Nope. Now let's just hope he doesn't unleash Noelle yet.
[X] One little girl is safe, but the city has thousands of people who will suffer if fiends like Coil rule. If you make a compromise like this, where does it end? Can monsters escape justice for their crimes, simply by having enough power, or being useful? No. That is not the world you're fighting for. You're fighting for a world where people like Coil can't prey on the powerless.
- Location
- Little Rock, AR
So he's not offering why don't we offer,cajole, make. Put that Charisma to work. We can litearlly print money with omni metal. He can certainly sell a pardon.
Hachichiyyin
Team Tron
- Location
- Earth
I have to ask, what cipher are you using?
[X] One little girl is safe, but the city has thousands of people who will suffer if fiends like Coil rule. If you make a compromise like this,where does it end? Can monsters escape justice for their crimes, simply by having enough power, or being useful? No. That is not the world you're fighting for. You're fighting for a world where people like Coil can't prey on the powerless.
Wow, Coil sure loves to buy into his own hype doesn't he?
Wow, Coil sure loves to buy into his own hype doesn't he?
[X] One little girl is safe, but the city has thousands of people who will suffer if fiends like Coil rule. If you make a compromise like this, where does it end? Can monsters escape justice for their crimes, simply by having enough power, or being useful? No. That is not the world you're fighting for. You're fighting for a world where people like Coil can't prey on the powerless.
We are a Hero, capital H. While some villains can be redeemed coil is not one of those,
Villains don't get a free pass just because they could be useful.
We are a Hero, capital H. While some villains can be redeemed coil is not one of those,
Villains don't get a free pass just because they could be useful.
- Location
- Texas
[X] One little girl is safe, but the city has thousands of people who will suffer if fiends like Coil rule. If you make a compromise like this, where does it end? Can monsters escape justice for their crimes, simply by having enough power, or being useful? No. That is not the world you're fighting for. You're fighting for a world where people like Coil can't prey on the powerless.
[x] One little girl is safe, but the city has thousands of people who will suffer if fiends like Coil rule. If you make a compromise like this, where does it end? Can monsters escape justice for their crimes, simply by having enough power, or being useful? No. That is not the world you're fighting for. You're fighting for a world where people like Coil can't prey on the powerless.
This is obviously him trying to get the travellers to attack us, so we should use luck manipulation and cheat outrageously.
This is obviously him trying to get the travellers to attack us, so we should use luck manipulation and cheat outrageously.
[X] One little girl is safe, but the city has thousands of people who will suffer if fiends like Coil rule. If you make a compromise like this, where does it end? Can monsters escape justice for their crimes, simply by having enough power, or being useful? No. That is not the world you're fighting for. You're fighting for a world where people like Coil can't prey on the powerless.
I'm not bothered so much about making things conform to the legal system as that we're giving Coil carte blanche as long as he mostly confines his misdeeds to Brockton Bay. The hope of saving people later is not worth letting him hurt people now.
I'm not bothered so much about making things conform to the legal system as that we're giving Coil carte blanche as long as he mostly confines his misdeeds to Brockton Bay. The hope of saving people later is not worth letting him hurt people now.
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[X] A counter-offer: He'll join the heroes. Abandon Coil's assets (donate them to charity) save a small sum for himself to live comfortably, rebrand himself, and join the heroes starting from a clean sheet. Redemption is (almost) never impossible, and if he's willing, he could do it. Otherwise, jail.
[X] A counter-offer: He'll join the heroes. Abandon Coil's assets (donate them to charity) save a small sum for himself to live comfortably, rebrand himself, and join the heroes starting from a clean sheet. Redemption is (almost) never impossible, and if he's willing, he could do it. Otherwise, jail.
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- Location
- Denmark
[X] One little girl is safe, but the city has thousands of people who will suffer if fiends like Coil rule. If you make a compromise like this, where does it end? Can monsters escape justice for their crimes, simply by having enough power, or being useful? No. That is not the world you're fighting for. You're fighting for a world where people like Coil can't prey on the powerless.
Yeah, fuck Coil.
Yeah, fuck Coil.
- Location
- Home
[X] One little girl is safe, but the city has thousands of people who will suffer if fiends like Coil rule. If you make a compromise like this, where does it end? Can monsters escape justice for their crimes, simply by having enough power, or being useful? No. That is not the world you're fighting for. You're fighting for a world where people like Coil can't prey on the powerless.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
[X] One little girl is safe, but the city has thousands of people who will suffer if fiends like Coil rule. If you make a compromise like this, where does it end? Can monsters escape justice for their crimes, simply by having enough power, or being useful? No. That is not the world you're fighting for. You're fighting for a world where people like Coil can't prey on the powerless.
- Location
- Spain
[X] One little girl is safe, but the city has thousands of people who will suffer if fiends like Coil rule. If you make a compromise like this, where does it end? Can monsters escape justice for their crimes, simply by having enough power, or being useful? No. That is not the world you're fighting for. You're fighting for a world where people like Coil can't prey on the powerless.
Meh, Coil Overstimates himself. His power isn't as powerful as he thinks.
No phones in the birdcage, sorry
Meh, Coil Overstimates himself. His power isn't as powerful as he thinks.
No phones in the birdcage, sorry
- Location
- Mandaluyong City
[X] One little girl is safe, but the city has thousands of people who will suffer if fiends like Coil rule. If you make a compromise like this, where does it end? Can monsters escape justice for their crimes, simply by having enough power, or being useful? No. That is not the world you're fighting for. You're fighting for a world where people like Coil can't prey on the powerless.
cskey0
King of Afternoon Naps
- Location
- N/A
[X] One little girl is safe, but the city has thousands of people who will suffer if fiends like Coil rule. If you make a compromise like this, where does it end? Can monsters escape justice for their crimes, simply by having enough power, or being useful? No. That is not the world you're fighting for. You're fighting for a world where people like Coil can't prey on the powerless.
Amberion
Mighty #9
[x] One little girl is safe, but the city has thousands of people who will suffer if fiends like Coil rule. If you make a compromise like this, where does it end? Can monsters escape justice for their crimes, simply by having enough power, or being useful? No. That is not the world you're fighting for. You're fighting for a world where people like Coil can't prey on the powerless.
We have to stay true to our character. We are an uncompromising hero, we are the definition of heroic. If we allow evil to flourish due to our inaction, we don't deserve the name.
We have to stay true to our character. We are an uncompromising hero, we are the definition of heroic. If we allow evil to flourish due to our inaction, we don't deserve the name.
Not really. Coil did a lot to improve the city, whether the regular Worm reader wants to admit or not. Additionally, his goal is to remove supervillains from the city and keep it as tightly ordered as possible. He wants to be in control, not to make the world burn around him.
He's definitely an evil sadistic bastard, but he's a neat one. he knows not to creates unecesary suffering. He keeps his torture fetish to discarded timeline, for example, and those are simple phantasms.
On the other hand, there is no way the Avatar would compromise himself like this. Supervillains don't get to do their dirty deeds unchecked because they are useful. Not if the Avatar has anything to say about it.
So if he wants to repent? Getting him a pardon for his past crimes as well as a very cushy job would be on the table. There's room to negotiate with a highly pragmatic individual like Coil. There's simply no way the Avatar could allow to compromise himself by selling out BB to a sadistic supervillain overlord.
It really is. It doesn't have any of the known weaknesses of Precog (it handles blindspots like Scion and Endbringers just fine, isn't bothered by other precogs, none of it). There's really nothing whatsoever that suggest that it doesn't work as advertised.
And what he told The Avatar is more than perfectly possible. It's just the tip of the iceberg. There's much more that can be done with this power.
The problem isn't there. It's that to save Worm you can't start making deals you're going to regret. You can't compromise your core values. The Avatar can't make a precedent of letting villains buying his Official Seal of Approval for their operations. We should probably negotiate with Coil given how amazingly useful he is, but not at the cost of letting him run unchecked.
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- Location
- Mandaluyong City
If someone like him is gonna get "redemption" then he needs someone to observe him 24/7 while making use of his knowledge and abilities.
Question, how often or how casually do Villains take to killing non-capes?
[X] One little girl is safe, but the city has thousands of people who will suffer if fiends like Coil rule. If you make a compromise like this, where does it end? Can monsters escape justice for their crimes, simply by having enough power, or being useful? No. That is not the world you're fighting for. You're fighting for a world where people like Coil can't prey on the powerless.
munchkinomatic
Douchiest of Bags
- Location
- The land of Skepticism
[X] One little girl is safe, but the city has thousands of people who will suffer if fiends like Coil rule. If you make a compromise like this, where does it end? Can monsters escape justice for their crimes, simply by having enough power, or being useful? No. That is not the world you're fighting for. You're fighting for a world where people like Coil can't prey on the powerless.
Why were we given a choice again? This is like asking me if whether I would like to spare Sauron because he will give me a cheatsheet and some cookies.
HE'S MOTHERFUCKING SAURON!
Why were we given a choice again? This is like asking me if whether I would like to spare Sauron because he will give me a cheatsheet and some cookies.
HE'S MOTHERFUCKING SAURON!