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A Certain Gravitational Villain (A Certain Magical Index Quest)
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I will state I think all alignments are equally good, but I'm now even more committed to lawful evil because of the idea of mobile oppression fortresses.
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It is an alluring idea.
I just won't stand for bad use of logic, and now aligned against it on principle.
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I personally have a thing for giant mobile fortresses bristling with troops, industrial equipment and dakka.
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I can appreciate those CX
As I said, series is more important to me vs alignment. Lawful or Chaotic, when Neutral doesn't have to be so bland if we keep it interesting. We'll make it work.
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I really don't know what you want me to do here. I made an argument using logic, based on what I pieced together. You're telling me that I shouldn't have made any arguments because my logic might be wrong.
What's the alternative? I don't address any of the other options? I don't base my arguments on logic?
I used what I had available and what I had available clearly stated that Chaotic Evil would be based on murder. I'm assuming the evidence is true because what the fuck else do I do?
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-_- All I opened with was that you shouldn't declare the morality of Chaotic Evil in stone, you're the one who brought logic into this. If my answers be frightening, perhaps you should stop asking scary questions.
In all seriousness though, it's called evaluating the evidence. Do quests usually make choices like that for us? No. Do quests usually force a character upon us universally without records to change? No. Then perhaps GM means it as a guideline. Lawful Evil can enjoy killing people as much as Chaotic Evil—they would just enjoy killing when it follows the law. Chaotic Evil can enjoy saving people if they're specifically saving people that the Law doesn't want to save. Even that doesn't have to be true
Everything is relative.
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[x] (Neutral Evil) You have acomplete and utter lack of empathy. You don't care about what other people think or feel. All that matters to you is yourself. All you want is to live a long, comfortable life. If that it takes stealing, cheating, and killing then so be it. The only thing important in this world is you and your happiness.
[X] RWBY
[X] RWBY
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I'm gonna have to ask you to calm down. But you are correct that what I have written places a lot of emphasis on the murder side of things with the chaotic description. I will say here and now that there is more to chaotic evil the just murder. Like trolling!
Don't worry to much. I promise that no matter what alignment is picked I'll do my best to write a well-rounded, interesting character.[x] (Lawful Evil) You have the overwhelming desire to rule over, dominate and control others. It doesn't matter to you what methods you use to get people to obey so long as you are obeyed. Those that refuse you shall be destroyed. You will not stop until the whole world is bowing before you.
[X] Puella Magi Madoka Magica
[X] Puella Magi Madoka Magica
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And you! Try not to antagonize him. But you're right in some ways. I'm not going to force to follow some sort of rails. Fuck rails! Rails are boring! As I've said earlier this vote is just to pick you character motivation in the most general sense.
Also, and this is advice for everybody now so pay attention, don't worry to much later on about making votes 'in-character'. Just vote on what you think is a good idea at the time or what you think is the most fun. I'll take care of the rest
Relatively!
It's the ones who can actually stick to a plan for longer than a week at least. Those are nasty
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Sorry, I wasn't trying to; it's my habit to try and be lighthearted even in arguments, hence the Samuel Jsckson reference from Pulp Fiction. And what you're saying to me was exactly my point, that you weren't going to railroad us to pure murder.
I probably wouldn't have been so direct if 'e hadn't been making a big case for Lawful Evil and slamming Chaotic so harshly; once he brought up you as evidence for logic while I was in class with the perfect response handed to me on a silver platter by my teacher/a cheating classmate...?
...'Tis hard not to roll with what the world gives you.
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RexHeller
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It's fine just make sure not to get so caught up in an argument that you wind up pissing someone off. Remember kiddies, we're all friends here!
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[X] (Lawful Evil) You have the overwhelming desire to rule over, dominate and control others. It doesn't matter to you what methods you use to get people to obey so long as you are obeyed. Those that refuse you shall be destroyed. You will not stop until the whole world is bowing before you.
[X] Puella Magi Madoka Magica
[X] Puella Magi Madoka Magica
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Fair enough... hmm...
Of the ones on the list, I think Sailor Moon, RWBY, and Puella Magi Madoka Magica are the ones with potential from what I can see.
Sailor Moon has whole species of literal monsters who feed on human life energy. Or rather, they use life energy to power their stuff, survive, or resurrect slumbering gods. They are basically a whole mess of vampires except way cooler since they can be anything! Living puppets that can take over theme parks to drain the life from their enemies, water elementals, sentient carrots who curse the cities brocoli supply so they can brainwash anyone who eats their vegetables... really, anything goes with these guys.
I mean, look at this:
Just look at that! I haven't watched the show in years, so I don't know if these scenes are from a reboot or some recent seasons or whatever but it really goes to show that basically anything can be a valid Sailor Moon monster/villain so long as some step in our plans involve stealing life energy from random nobodies. We could run a troupe of killer clowns from space who need life energy to power their macabre tent-shaped space ship! We could be an evil real estate salesman who tricks people into buying haunted houses that eat their life energy... or we could be a haunted house that has evil real estate agents as minions to spread our evil! Imagine an actual haunted house singing "Feed Me" to some some nerdy wimp who's trying to make it in the real estate business and convincing him to help spread our Hellmouth Spores ("It's just a name, trust me.") so we can like... drive down property values from people getting their souls sucked out of their bodies or something. The sky's the limit!
In Sailor Moon, that could be a totally legit plan!
RWBY is... well, I've only watched the seasons they have on Netflix so far but it looks to me that it's kind of like Final Fantasy 7 but with Grimm instead of monsters, dust instead of materia, and instead of a depressing city-sized slum run by a megacorp that sucks up the world's live energy, all the protagonists have to go to Hogwarts. It's obviously got potential for fight scenes and stuff, and the magic and technology are pretty cool, but this setting already has a whole school dedicated to teaching kung-fu moves to kid heroes and the outside world is full of monsters that eat people. Unless we're like... a sapient Grimm who has a real hate-on for humans, I'm not sure what we're supposed to do. It's a cool setting, but I'm not sure that villainy really pays in this situation.
Puella Magi Madoka Magica is... well, it's a deconstruction of the magical girl genre so it's already basically Sailor Moon with a more "realistic" plot and setting. It also has young girls as the heroes and bunny lucifer as the Big Bad. I... don't really know what kind of villainy we can get into here that isn't already being done or doesn't involves injuring little children. I mean, we could play as an Incubator and basically do Kyubey's job for him... but that would involve lying to little girls and causing huge problems which could likely be done way more efficiently some other way (at which point we stop being villains and can just run an unusually popular suicide clinic or a really depressing 'Make a Wish' foundation). We could play as a Witch... but then we'd have to play as some kind of post-modernist fever dream living in a bubble while our hideous minions go out and kill people. Or play as a magical girl... in which case we either die when Walpurgesnaugt blows up the world or we (somehow) defeat Bunny Lucifer... at which point congratulations, we're the heroes now.
Kinda the same with Worm. Scion, the Endbringers, and the Slaughterhouse Nine all pretty much have the "villainy" quota taken care of. And the game is already rigged by the entities to ensure that they win. I mean... yeah... we could be villains but it's not like we can take over the world when Endbringers are taking a bite out of everyone's pie three times a year and random murderhobo-ism would make us potential S9 recruits more than anything. A successful villain in the worm-verse would have to basically be a hero on account of all the worse villains we'd be dealing with.
I haven't seen A Certain Magical Index before. All I know is that it has a pretty lackluster title, it's the where Accelerator comes from, and... apparently it has magic in it. I dunno. I only know about Accelerator from that one Worm crossover where Taylor gets his powers and it was fun at first but got really dumb really quickly. I... suppose it could be the best thing ever, or it's just not something I would enjoy personally.
Soo... gah. You know what, I'm voting for Sailor Moon.
[X] Sailor Moon
If we're going to play as original villains, might as well play as villains in a world where all the other villains suck by comparison, the heroes are ditzy and disorganized, and the average citizen is basically a walking bag of tasty tasty life-energy for us to power our evil clown spaceship or nefarious haunted house real-estate scheme with (or some sort of... digital... pirate ship run by video game monsters that steal life energy from people who torrent movies without the legal owners permission). Let's save the complicated universes with things like "plot" and "continuity" and "logic" for later.
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So currently Chaotic Evil is winning by 1, as is Madoka...
I wonder if the PMMM people are aware we can't do Madoka/Homura/QB? Cause I have a fun idea for Index regardless, but that could shake up a good chunk of people...
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It has occurred to me that PMMM has a disturbing lack of giant doom fortresses, therefore I will change my vote to.
[x] (Lawful Evil) You have the overwhelming desire to rule over, dominate and control others. It doesn't matter to you what methods you use to get people to obey so long as you are obeyed. Those that refuse you shall be destroyed. You will not stop until the whole world is bowing before you.
[x] A Certain Magical Index
[x] (Lawful Evil) You have the overwhelming desire to rule over, dominate and control others. It doesn't matter to you what methods you use to get people to obey so long as you are obeyed. Those that refuse you shall be destroyed. You will not stop until the whole world is bowing before you.
[x] A Certain Magical Index
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You know... Yeah, I forgot about that, too...
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The reason I included the "Those significantly younger than you" in the injuring children rule was because of PMMM. Basically I included that so that you could fight and kill your fellow Magical Girls. However you still can't hurt really young children.
I think people want to be evil Sabrina.
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But some people specifically expressed interest in playing QB/Incubator or Homura/Madoka. Those people's votes kind of go to waste tho.
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Eh, I did say that you'd be playing an original character. If they haven't changed their votes then I guess they're okay with that.
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I'm more concerned that they don't know. I've seen the problem before where people don't check the whole forum till they're tagged for voting or the OP posts large, then get surprised when their vote isn't as they expected. *shrug*
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[x] (Neutral Evil) You have a complete and utter lack of empathy. You don't care about what other people think or feel. All that matters to you is yourself. All you want is to live a long, comfortable life. If that it takes stealing, cheating, and killing then so be it. The only thing important in this world is you and your happiness.
[X] Sailor Moon
[X] Sailor Moon
