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Libra's Lament, a Magical Girl Quest [Complete]

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[X] The Mother
hoping for gaia
[X] Memories of LIGHT
i want to see what she's up to.


let's get some basic but useful stuff before we go for mystery packages.

[X] XP Plan basics
-[X] Applied Teachings (-100)
-[X] Advanced Connection (-200)
-[X] Shell of Light 3 -> 5 (-70)
-[X] Lunar Blessing 3 -> 5 (-70)
-[X] Protective Silhouette 3 -> 5 (-70)
-[X] Sunlight Scepter 2 -> 5 (-90)
-[X] Moonlight Scepter 2 -> 5 (-90)
-[X] Moonlight: Multi-Target (-100)
-[X] Scorching Sunlight 5 -> 7 (-110)
-[X] Exp left: 0

This mostly increases our defenses, while also improving our weapons some.
 
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[X] XP Plan Moon and Sun (880 -> 0)
-[X] Otherworldly Radiance (-350)
-[X] Advanced Connection (-200)
-[X] Scorching Sunlight 5 -> 8 (-180)
-[X] Flight 4 -> 5 (-40 x2 = -80)
-[X] Shell of Light 3 -> 5 (-70)
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We have 900 EXP right now, so that plan actually leaves 20 remaining, not 0 remaining.

Would you consider either dropping one level from Scorching Sunlight and swapping Otherworldly Radiance for one of the 300 EXP options, or just swapping Otherworldly Radiance for one of the 250 EXP options, in order to grab Applied Teachings?
 
After a bit of thougt I support Lightlan. Mostly because I dont have a clue and I like his EXP-Plan.

[X] LightLan

But I am honest. I dont like the sound of our connection, because we dont know how far it will go. Because if our personality and so on merges too much we would loose some of their individuality. And I like their synergy now, it is adorable.
 
justinkal said:
We have 900 EXP right now, so that plan actually leaves 20 remaining, not 0 remaining.

Would you consider either dropping one level from Scorching Sunlight and swapping Otherworldly Radiance for one of the 300 EXP options, or just swapping Otherworldly Radiance for one of the 250 EXP options, in order to grab Applied Teachings?
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I honestly don't see the appeal of applied teachings at all really. Our weapons are almost entirely useless to us outside of the MM they provide.

Thank you for alerting me about the XP though.

Could drop the Flight purchase for it. It's only one level of Flight for each right now.
Dragou said:
But I am honest. I dont like the sound of our connection, because we dont know how far it will go. Because if our personality and so on merges too much we would loose some of their individuality. And I like their synergy now, it is adorable.
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That's going to happen no matter what we do. That's the twins "insanity" from being Magical Girls. We might as well at least pick up the benefits of it along the way.
 
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That's going to happen no matter what we do. That's the twins "insanity" from being Magical Girls. We might as well at least pick up the benefits of it along the way.
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I dont think that we will merge if we dont buy them, if we are merging at all, but for me it seems so. BTW if we have the chance we can work for new spells like the vote before the timeskip started. But back to the point with the connection: I am that dude who would put adorable little kids like that into cotton until they cant take dmg anymore. :D
Therefore I would keep some of the merging out of this, if it can be avoided. Because in my opinion this isnt worth it. Maybe i am alone with that but I just wanted to say that. :tongue:
 
Actually, looking at the thing again... I realise two things.
First, Shining Protector is still too expensive for what it does.
Second, you do not want to buy it right now. Trust me.

So Shining Protector and All is Equal were both lowered in their price; both by 50 EXP.
Additionally, I added the descriptions for All is Equal and Otherworldly Radiance.
Adhoc vote count started by Naron on Oct 30, 2017 at 5:36 PM, finished with 1551 posts and 6 votes.
  • [X] Memories of LIGHT
    [X] The Monster
    [x] Stalingrad
    [X] Reluxus
    [X] The Goddess
    [X] The Mother
    [X] XP Plan basics
    -[X] Applied Teachings (-100)
    -[X] Advanced Connection (-200)
    -[X] Shell of Light 3 -> 5 (-70)
    -[X] Lunar Blessing 3 -> 5 (-70)
    -[X] Protective Silhouette 3 -> 5 (-70)
    -[X] Sunlight Scepter 2 -> 5 (-90)
    -[X] Moonlight Scepter 2 -> 5 (-90)
    -[X] Moonlight: Multi-Target (-100)
    -[X] Scorching Sunlight 5 -> 7 (-110)
    -[X] Exp left: 0
    [x] The Heiress
    [X] EXP-Plan new toys
    -[X] All is Equal
    -[X] Incandescent Armor
    -[X] The Light Never Fades
    -[X] Advanced Connection
    -[X] Lunar Blessing 3 -> 4
    [X] XP Plan basics
    [X] XP Plan Moon and Sun
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Adhoc vote count started by Naron on Oct 30, 2017 at 5:43 PM, finished with 1553 posts and 7 votes.
  • [X] Memories of LIGHT
    [X] The Monster
    [X] The Goddess
    [x] The Heiress
    [x] Stalingrad
    [X] XP Plan basics
    [X] Reluxus
    [X] The Mother
    [X] XP Plan basics
    -[X] Applied Teachings (-100)
    -[X] Advanced Connection (-200)
    -[X] Shell of Light 3 -> 5 (-70)
    -[X] Lunar Blessing 3 -> 5 (-70)
    -[X] Protective Silhouette 3 -> 5 (-70)
    -[X] Sunlight Scepter 2 -> 5 (-90)
    -[X] Moonlight Scepter 2 -> 5 (-90)
    -[X] Moonlight: Multi-Target (-100)
    -[X] Scorching Sunlight 5 -> 7 (-110)
    -[X] Exp left: 0
    [X] EXP-Plan new toys
    -[X] All is Equal
    -[X] Incandescent Armor
    -[X] The Light Never Fades
    -[X] Advanced Connection
    -[X] Lunar Blessing 3 -> 4
    [X] XP Plan Moon and Sun
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ShadowAngelBeta said:
I honestly don't see the appeal of applied teachings at all really. Our weapons are almost entirely useless to us outside of the MM they provide.
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Weapons govern our attacks per turn, if we ever want more than one, we need to level them.
We also can only use one spell per turn, the remaining attacks will be normal ones. Therefor skill in weapons is useful.

Edit: I'll follow QM advice and search for something besides shining protector then.
 
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Naron said:
Actually, looking at the thing again... I realise two things.
First, Shining Protector is still too expensive for what it does.
Second, you do not want to buy it right now. Trust me.

So Shining Protector and All is Equal were both lowered in their price; both by 50 EXP.
Additionally, I added the descriptions for All is Equal and Otherworldly Radiance.
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You dropped OR by 100 instead of AiE by 50.
Dragou said:
I dont think that we will merge if we dont buy them, if we are merging at all, but for me it seems so. BTW if we have the chance we can work for new spells like the vote before the timeskip started. But back to the point with the connection: I am that dude who would put adorable little kids like that into cotton until they cant take dmg anymore. :D
Therefore I would keep some of the merging out of this, if it can be avoided. Because in my opinion this isnt worth it. Maybe i am alone with that but I just wanted to say that. :tongue:
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All Magical Girls have an insanity inflicted upon them, such as our recently awakened friend's hunger. Ours is that the line between Eva and Rico will blur. If you want to stop it, you need to either kill all of humanity or flip the entire outlook of humanity on MGs.
LightLan said:
Weapons govern our attacks per turn, if we ever want more than one, we need to level them.
We also can only use one spell per turn, the remaining attacks will be normal ones. Therefor skill in weapons is useful.
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Not really. If we don't have Multi-Caster or whatever it is that let's you cast more than one spell per turn reasonably soon, then I'll eat a hat. We're basically poster girls for the Caster type.

The only reason to get applied teachings is if we can't get Abilities on our weapons without it or it lowers our ATP while we have that debuff.
 
ShadowAngelBeta said:
You dropped OR by 100 instead of AiE by 50.
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Thank you for pointing that out.
Numbers are now fixed.

ShadowAngelBeta said:
All Magical Girls have an insanity inflicted upon them
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Careful with that, though; not all of them. Only most of them.
Especially previous generations (such as the Four Seasons) usually do not have any, either.

ShadowAngelBeta said:
The only reason to get applied teachings is if we can't get Abilities on our weapons without it or it lowers our ATP while we have that debuff.
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You might later want to hit someone and make them go down without making them go pop via Spell.
 
ShadowAngelBeta said:
All Magical Girls have an insanity inflicted upon them, such as our recently awakened friend's hunger. Ours is that the line between Eva and Rico will blur. If you want to stop it, you need to either kill all of humanity or flip the entire outlook of humanity on MGs.
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Naron said:
Careful with that, though; not all of them. Only most of them.
Especially previous generations (such as the Four Seasons) usually do not have any, either.
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Yeah let us be such an exception. I admit this is a interesting ability and so on, but I am a bit hardheaded there. Its just how I am, that i dislike this. If all others want it i cant stop it anyway.
 
Dragou said:
Yeah let us be such an exception. I admit this is a interesting ability and so on, but I am a bit hardheaded there. Its just how I am, that i dislike this. If all others want it i cant stop it anyway.
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No. I really doubt we're an exception. Bianca thought it might be that and I see no reason to think she was wrong. Naron said "Not all girls" and then named off a team that practically has been there since the very beginning, I.E. before shit went down and Humanity's belief turned against Magical Girls.
 
justinkal said:
More importantly though, it's almost certainly a prereq for our tank getting a Skilled variant.
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Well, if you get back to Bianca and spend some time with her as your tutor after buying Applied Teachings, she might not give you Skilled (as she does not have it herself)... but she very well might be able to teach you Superior Discipline.

Especially its secondary property no one but me knows about so far might be interesting to Rico.
Not saying what it is, though. :drevil:
 
Naron said:
Well, if you get back to Bianca and spend some time with her as your tutor after buying Applied Teachings, she might not give you Skilled (as she does not have it herself)... but she very well might be able to teach you Superior Discipline.

Especially its secondary property no one but me knows about so far might be interesting to Rico.
Not saying what it is, though. :drevil:
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That would be fun if our MG weapons get Spell Boost :V
 
Naron said:
(Slicing Arms: +8000 Base Damage, ignore Rain of Blows, no dice = 8,000 Total Damage
Zombie Nightmare: +250 Base Resilience, no dice = 250 Total Damage Reduction

7,750 Final End Damage
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I don't remember any attack of the sort among our crew... did it suicide? Is it a prerequisite for its reincarnation? Quite a nasty bag of tricks... I wonder what else Nightmare Child has created.

[x] The Heiress
[x] Stalingrad
 
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No. I really doubt we're an exception. Bianca thought it might be that and I see no reason to think she was wrong. Naron said "Not all girls" and then named off a team that practically has been there since the very beginning, I.E. before shit went down and Humanity's belief turned against Magical Girls.
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We are already exceptions in our growth and so on and I dont see within our affinitys something like horror or other negative thing. Therefore the only downside is if the connection grows too much and so on. And like I said, I like how the girls are and dont really want to sacrifice that if it isnt needed.

PS: Is someone on my side there? If not it isnt bad or such a thing, I am just curious.
 
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ShadowAngelBeta said:
No. I really doubt we're an exception. Bianca thought it might be that and I see no reason to think she was wrong. Naron said "Not all girls" and then named off a team that practically has been there since the very beginning, I.E. before shit went down and Humanity's belief turned against Magical Girls.
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The Seasons awakened during the war, not before.
In fact, Winter's Dream shanked the last member of the resident Old Guard.

If you want a recent girl not affected, take Brave Heart and Judge. Both are fine mentally... one is just indoctrinated by outside means while the other is... weird. But Judge was already weird before she awakened.

Otherwise, Abyss Knight awakened after the war was long over; she has no insanity about her, either... except what came from her circumstances.


Nevill said:
I don't remember any attack of the sort among our crew... did it suicide? Is it a prerequisite for its reincarnation? Quite a nasty bag of tricks... I wonder what else Nightmare Child has created.
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It killed its buddy to activate the Ability.
By the way, Nightmare Child is behind one of the current options.
 
[X] XP Plan Moon and Sun (900 -> 20)
-[X] Advanced Connection (-200)
-[X] Scorching Sunlight 5 -> 8 (-180)
-[X] Flight 4 -> 5 (-40 x2 = -80)
-[X] Shell of Light 3 -> 5 (-70)
-[X] Lunar Blessing 3 -> 5 (-70)
-[X] Protective Silhouette 3 -> 5 (-70)
-[X] Sunlight Scepter 2 -> 5 (-90)
-[X] Moonlight Scepter 2 -> 3 (-20)
-[X] Applied Teachings (-100)

Kinda like Lightlan's except I'm not buying Shining Protector. Ya know, the one the GM said we shouldn't buy. Rather explicitly.

Dragou said:
We are already exceptions in our growth and so on and I dont see within our affinitys something like horror or other negative thing. Therefore the only downside is if the connection grows too much and so on. And like I said, I like how the girls are and dont really want to sacrifice that if it isnt needed.

PS: Is someone on my side there? If not it isnt bad or such a thing, I am just curious.
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Lightlan's voting for Advanced Connections FYI.
Naron said:
The Seasons awakened during the war, not before.
In fact, Winter's Dream shanked the last member of the resident Old Guard.

If you want a recent girl not affected, take Brave Heart and Judge. Both are fine mentally... one is just indoctrinated by outside means while the other is... weird. But Judge was already weird before she awakened.

Otherwise, Abyss Knight awakened after the war was long over; she has no insanity about her, either... except what came from her circumstances.
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So can you tell us if we have an Insanity or not?

This is just going to get irritating otherwise, going in circles like this. Dragou's not going to accept we do unless it's explicitly stated from the sounds of it.

And I, at least, am on the other end of the spectrum.
 
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Okay, another 50 EXP to play with

Hmmm...

New vote

[X] The Monster
[X] The Goddess

[X] EXP-Plan new toys
-[X] All is Equal
-[X] Incandescent Armor
-[X] The Light Never Fades
-[X] Advanced Connection
-[X] Lunar Blessing 3 -> 4

And we have 20 left over

Also yeah, I figured Shining Protector would work like an intercept, and Moon is still rather squishy
 
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Dragou said:
We are already exceptions in our growth and so on and I dont see within our affinitys something like horror or other negative thing. Therefore the only downside is if the connection grows too much and so on. And like I said, I like how the girls are and dont really want to sacrifice that if it isnt needed.

PS: Is someone on my side there? If not it isnt bad or such a thing, I am just curious.
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I don't think it'll be that bad.
I think this'll allow us to better control the connection.
Right now Rico and Eva need to concentrate a bit to see through each others eyes etc.
With this upgrade it'll likely take less effort to do so, or simply not be as distracting. (Or rather they still see through their own eyes as well)

I don't think their individuality will suffer for it.
 
Dragou said:
We are already exceptions in our growth and so on
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I'd like a clarification about our growth, actually... is it exceptional? Here's what Bianca had to say about our Growth Affinity:
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"That's hard to tell. Your mental connection skews the whole thing even more... but if I had to guess, I would say your Growth-Affinities are either Story or Tale, considering how weak you..."
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"There are currently five known: Story, Tale, Fable, Myth and Legend. Story starts the weakest and grows the slowest, Legend starts the strongest and grows the fastest. To give you an example, the Four Seasons and Transcendent Strength all have Legend as their Growth-Affinity."
So... she just said you are either Story or Tale... aww...
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Of course, she didn't have much time to observe us, but the general rule is that someone who starts small grows slower. Are we breaking the trend, or are higher-tier girls absolute juggernauts progressing exponentially?
 
ShadowAngelBeta said:
[X] XP Plan Moon and Sun (900 -> 20)
-[X] Advanced Connection (-200)
-[X] Scorching Sunlight 5 -> 8 (-180)
-[X] Flight 4 -> 5 (-40 x2 = -80)
-[X] Shell of Light 3 -> 5 (-70)
-[X] Lunar Blessing 3 -> 5 (-70)
-[X] Protective Silhouette 3 -> 5 (-70)
-[X] Sunlight Scepter 2 -> 5 (-90)
-[X] Moonlight Scepter 2 -> 3 (-20)
-[X] Applied Teachings (-100)

Kinda like Lightlan's except I'm not buying Shining Protector. Ya know, the one the GM said we shouldn't buy. Rather explicitly.
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I removed Shining Protector from my exp plan after the QM said so. Our plans are now quite similar.

I get 1 less level in Scorching Sunlight, no flight. 2 more levels in Moonlight Scepter and Moonlight: Multi-Target.

Nevill said:
I'd like a clarification about our growth, actually... is it exceptional? Here's what Bianca had to say about our Growth Affinity:

Of course, she didn't have much time to observe us, but the general rule is that someone who starts small grows slower. Are we breaking the trend, or are higher-tier girls absolute juggernauts progressing exponentially?
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We break the trend.
In original CWMGQ divinity starts the weakest, but grows faster than all.
 
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ShadowAngelBeta said:
So can you tell us if we have an Insanity or not?

This is just going to get irritating otherwise.
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That depends on how you define it, really... and I know how that sounds.
The point is, Two Minds Joined in Harmony is one of your most important Abilities one way or another. Twins are close anyway, but these two are literally joined together forever. They will never be able to get out of each other's head again.

So... I would not call it insanity, but some of the other players here might.
Advancing the connection means for the twins to embrace the fact they are linked closer than any other, and to grow closer still as a result. Their minds are not entirely human anymore... but whether they are now something worse or better, that is up to you to decide.

I am really loathe to answer questions like that, to be honest. I do not want to influence my players' decisions if I can prevent it.
To say it outright, I want you to advance the connection. Not saying it brings the best bonus or is the most useful course of action, but I know it is something interesting that I would love to write. I do not want people to do it just because I want them to, though.


Nevill said:
I'd like a clarification about our growth, actually... is it exceptional?
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Yes. Fresh Meat exclusively starts with exponential growth and none of the five known Affinities has it.
The rest is spoilers; you will get the chance to learn your Affinities soon enough.
Adhoc vote count started by Naron on Oct 30, 2017 at 5:34 PM, finished with 1550 posts and 6 votes.
  • [X] Memories of LIGHT
    [X] The Mother
    [X] XP Plan basics
    -[X] Applied Teachings (-100)
    -[X] Advanced Connection (-200)
    -[X] Shell of Light 3 -> 5 (-70)
    -[X] Lunar Blessing 3 -> 5 (-70)
    -[X] Protective Silhouette 3 -> 5 (-70)
    -[X] Sunlight Scepter 2 -> 5 (-90)
    -[X] Moonlight Scepter 2 -> 5 (-90)
    -[X] Moonlight: Multi-Target (-100)
    -[X] Scorching Sunlight 5 -> 7 (-110)
    -[X] Exp left: 0
    [X] Reluxus
    [X] The Monster
    [X] The Goddess
    [x] The Heiress
    [x] Stalingrad
    [X] EXP-Plan new toys
    -[X] All is Equal
    -[X] Incandescent Armor
    -[X] The Light Never Fades
    -[X] Advanced Connection
    -[X] Lunar Blessing 3 -> 4
    [X] XP Plan basics
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Adhoc vote count started by Naron on Oct 31, 2017 at 3:29 AM, finished with 1561 posts and 11 votes.
  • [X] XP Plan basics
    [X] The Goddess
    [X] Memories of LIGHT
    [x] The Heiress
    [X] The Monster
    [X] The Mother
    [x] Stalingrad
    [X] Reluxus
    [X] XP Plan basics
    -[X] Applied Teachings (-100)
    -[X] Advanced Connection (-200)
    -[X] Shell of Light 3 -> 5 (-70)
    -[X] Lunar Blessing 3 -> 5 (-70)
    -[X] Protective Silhouette 3 -> 5 (-70)
    -[X] Sunlight Scepter 2 -> 5 (-90)
    -[X] Moonlight Scepter 2 -> 5 (-90)
    -[X] Moonlight: Multi-Target (-100)
    -[X] Scorching Sunlight 5 -> 7 (-110)
    -[X] Exp left: 0
    [X] EXP-Plan new toys
    -[X] All is Equal
    -[X] Incandescent Armor
    -[X] The Light Never Fades
    -[X] Advanced Connection
    -[X] Lunar Blessing 3 -> 4
    [X] XP Plan Moon and Sun
    [X] EXP Plan: Spellbound Power
    -[X] Scorching Sunlight level 10 (350)
    -[X] Soothing Moonlight level 10 (170)
    -[X] Advanced Connection (-200)
    -[X] Applied Teachings (-100)
    [X] The Glutton
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