An Extra Primarch

Should the Quest switch to a Narrative Base?

  • Yes, it will streamline things.

    Votes: 345 40.5%
  • No, I prefer the current system.

    Votes: 127 14.9%
  • Yes, but not until the Crusade begins/Prologue ends.

    Votes: 379 44.5%

  • Total voters
    851
Okay the coming turn we should hit 200 for psyker willpower opening up that tag, I would suggest sliding that onto one of the perceptions. Moving forward we should try to tag all three skills in a category as with SL we can train all 3 for a single action and will be the quickest way to max all our skills so we can start tagging advanced skills. Psyker esoteric should hit 150 with a SL action and a level up and one or two turns after should hit 200, at which point we can move it to the last perception.
Adhoc vote count started by Void Stalker on Sep 25, 2017 at 1:29 PM, finished with 95 posts and 24 votes.
 
think we need more perception people to correctly identify good people to give powers and to take powers from
 
It would be amazing if we took the idea of Professor Xavier's Cerebro for looking for psykers. It would be faster than having them pop up unexpectedly.

@ilbgar123 is it possable to make a cerebro for psykers?
 
...I am really freaking curious as to what the Advanced Skill of Willpower is.
 
Maybe we need some kind of long-term eugenics project to cultivate psyker genome? Like slowly increasing overall level to make sure each generation's of psyker able to handle a bit more. We need patience for this kind of project. I think if we can turn all psykers into sane zeta or god forbid gamma class psyker then it will be a game changer.
 
It would be amazing if we took the idea of Professor Xavier's Cerebro for looking for psykers. It would be faster than having them pop up unexpectedly.

@ilbgar123 is it possable to make a cerebro for psykers?
Emperor got multiple such devices, it's called occullam test stations. He made them along with psi-engine which use brute force to turn normals into psykers.
 
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Well asked @ilbgar123 about major Projects i thought are importent, and those are his answers.

Project Genesis----
1. Understanding the nature of human soul and difference between human soul and souls of other Xenos.

2. How to increase the potency of the human soul and increase its natural resistance against chaos.

3. Research on how biology effects human soul and how to increase biological synchronization with soul.

Ga. Well, you've only really got Orks to compare with.

Gb. The psyker-creation Perks let you increase the potency of the human soul, though the resistance to Chaos is more a function of Control and Willpower than anything else.

Gc. A mix of Education:Esoteric and Psyker: Manipulation.

Project Holocaust----
1. Research on soul slaying weapons and how much damage needed to enforce true death to Daemon and industrialization.

2. Research of daemon summoning, containment, memory extraction and elimination.

3. Creation of devices to detect fluctuations within souls and taint of chaos.

Ha. You've already got soul-cutting weapons. You just need to figure out how to take them to their logical conclusion.

Hb. Psyker: Esoteric and Psyker: Willpower, because you're asking to be corrupted otherwise.

Hc. You'd need to make a Warp-construct complex enough to do so without excessive risk of corruption.

Project Sword----
1. Research on crystals to create specific crystals that embody concepts that are antagonistic towards chaos(example--order, peace and harmony, balance, compassion)

2. Research of weapons made by conceptualized crystals.

Sword a. Was going to be a project next turn.

Sword b. See above.

Project Shield----
1. Research on usage of anti-chaos crystal and phase iron to create AI matrix

2. Research on planetary scale Geller field(Geller field creates a bubble of real space within warp and enhances law of real-world in warp, Hypothetically a Planetary scale device will greatly reduce chances of deliberate or accidental daemon summoning and lessen the power of daemon in such planets)

3. Usage of rune, Hexagrammic and Pentagrammic upon body and its effects on soul

Shield a. You'd need to do the first Sword project first, but yes.

Shield b. Unless you made a massive improvement to Gellar Fields, they'd be massive power hogs.

Shield c. You would need to figure out runes in the first place first.

1. Elder mindset is different than humans, so logically their runes should not work in hand of a human. Is it not?

Ans. To the first, essentially. Though learning about their runes would help you in designing human ones.

2. Can we soulbind with an object? A book that it can self-update itself using its creator's knowledge.

Ans. You could, but I would suggest keeping it nearby to prevent a Daemon from taking advantage of it.
 
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Maybe we need some kind of long-term eugenics project to cultivate psyker genome? Like slowly increasing overall level to make sure each generation's of psyker able to handle a bit more. We need patience for this kind of project. I think if we can turn all psykers into sane zeta or god forbid gamma class psyker then it will be a game changer.

Problem with the whole generation thing is that it was mentioned that it would take millions of years for humans to evolve into stable psykers. Which comes an immense number of issues since until then we would be dealing with things like rogue and corrupted psykers.

Seems like the whole psyker creating thing would dramatically speed things up since we would be able to look at the genome of way more psykers. Especially if it would let us more easily be able to find people that seem to be naturally more stable.
 
@veekie can you replace paragon with Warp Whispers now that its being used for a much weaker trait? It would be really nice to have advance warning of things coming our way.
 
Problem with the whole generation thing is that it was mentioned that it would take millions of years for humans to evolve into stable psykers. Which comes an immense number of issues since until then we would be dealing with things like rogue and corrupted psykers.

Seems like the whole psyker creating thing would dramatically speed things up since we would be able to look at the genome of way more psykers. Especially if it would let us more easily be able to find people that seem to be naturally more stable.
We already greatly enhanced normals, we need to be patient, best we can hope for a supply of sane psykers like Templar Calix - Lexicanum as a force multiplier, i am mostly interested in using them in support role or espionage or assassination or information gathering. Just throwing them in meat grinder style battle is a waste of their potential and talent, they can be used as healer or comm officer or seer, better use them as a scalpel rather than a hammer.
 
We already greatly enhanced normals, we need to be patient, best we can hope for a supply of sane psykers like Templar Calix - Lexicanum as a force multiplier, i am mostly interested in using them in support role or espionage or assassination or information gathering. Just throwing them in meat grinder style battle is a waste of their potential and talent, they can be used as healer or comm officer or seer, better use them as a scalpel rather than a hammer.

Patient? Your pretty much saying that we should wait likely millions of years for people to naturally evolve into psykers. As shown with how looking into Serras' genetics let the planet use genetic engineering to boost everyone in what would have naturally have taken likely tens of thousands of years doing things the long way can be immensely impractical. That we can enhance people are selves doesn't really change the fact that having other people that can do the same would still be immensely helpful.

Hell, figuring out how genetics work with psykers could be immensely useful if we can use genetic engineering to make it far more likely that psykers naturally born are far more likely to become stable.
 
Patient? Your pretty much saying that we should wait likely millions of years for people to naturally evolve into psykers. As shown with how looking into Serras' genetics let the planet use genetic engineering to boost everyone in what would have naturally have taken likely tens of thousands of years doing things the long way can be immensely impractical. That we can enhance people are selves doesn't really change the fact that having other people that can do the same would still be immensely helpful.

Hell, figuring out how genetics work with psykers could be immensely useful if we can use genetic engineering to make it far more likely that psykers naturally born are far more likely to become stable.
Look at answers QM gave about projects, where i exactly asked such questions
 
I just got this hilarious idea of seeding Warp Gem (my name for them because created with the powers of the Warp) Manufactorum-vessels, filled with our personally-trained psykers following all crusade-fleets, constantly producing Warp Gems which will be fed to the Primarchs and Space Marine-leaders willing to digest such...

@ilbgar123 , could it be done?
 
I just got this hilarious idea of seeding Warp Gem (my name for them because created with the powers of the Warp) Manufactorum-vessels, filled with our personally-trained psykers following all crusade-fleets, constantly producing Warp Gems which will be fed to the Primarchs and Space Marine-leaders willing to digest such...

@ilbgar123 , could it be done?
better keep a monopoly over it, can you imagine if traitor Primarchs got their hands on those things and how to make them? Provide all info to Emp and Malcador, perhaps Magnus if he is absolutely loyal, other than that Guard your aces. As blood Ravens say "Knowledge is power, guard it well."
 
I just got this hilarious idea of seeding Warp Gem (my name for them because created with the powers of the Warp) Manufactorum-vessels, filled with our personally-trained psykers following all crusade-fleets, constantly producing Warp Gems which will be fed to the Primarchs and Space Marine-leaders willing to digest such...

@ilbgar123 , could it be done?

Yes, though anyone who isn't a psyker is only going to gain points in Combat.
 
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[25][Tag] Psyker - Esoteric
[25][Tag] Perception - People
[24][Tag] Invention - Practicality
[18][Tag] Invention - Necessity
[18][Tag] Invention - Extravagance
[7][Tag] Perception - Environment
[6][Tag] Speech - Persuasion
[1][Tag] Perception - Objects
[1][Tag] Speech - Diplomacy


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Task: Perk

[26][Perk] Level 20 Perk. Sleep Is No Longer Required. You've noticed that you seem to need less sleep as you age. Based on your analysis of your DNA, you suspect your body is adjusting to the all-nighters you pull with some regularity, as your growth has not slowed. +2 Major Actions.
[26][Perk] Level 25 Perk. Difficult... But I've Done It Before. You've accomplished things most would write-off as impossible. All Checks have their difficulty reduced by 50.
[21][Perk] Speech: Diplomacy: 40 Perk. Paragon. You always do the right thing, even when it's hard. Provides a bonus to Speech Checks if you possess Karma.
[18][Perk] Education: Esoteric: 120 Perk. Smash It Open. You've done it! You figured out how to turn non-psykers into minor psykers (not even Zeta-level) or the reverse! Admittedly, this doesn't sound so impressive, but it's a major step. +100 to Psyker Checks. +25 to allied Psyker Checks. 3 of preceding Perks must be taken.
[18][Perk] Education: Esoteric: 140 Perk. Widen It. You've had a breakthrough again! Zeta-level and back is possible now! +150 to Psyker Checks. +50 to allied Psyker Checks. 4 of preceding Perks must be taken.
[18][Perk] Forging: Gear: 60 Perk. Toolbots. They're not very smart, but they let you get more done. Invention actions count double. That is, one Invention action can be used to double-up on a Major Work, or for two slots of a Work or Minor Work.
[17][Perk] Education: Esoteric: 160 Perk. Make It Bigger. Once again, you've had a breakthrough. Epsilon-level is possible now! +200 to Psyker Checks. +100 to allied Psyker Checks. 5 of preceding Perks must be taken.
[15][Perk] Psyker: Esoteric: 60 Perk. Warp Whispers. You can hear whispers of things to come, or things long past. Gain Galactic Rumor Mill. Add visions of the distant past and future to RER table.
[10][Perk] Education: Esoteric: 180 Perk. Jump the Gap. Even Delta-level psykers are possible for you to create or destroy at this point. +250 to Psyker Checks. +200 to allied Psyker Checks. 6 of preceding Perks must be taken.
[9][Perk] Speech: Diplomacy: 100 Perk. Second Chance. Even the vilest person can become a good person, they just have to want to. Provides a bonus to Speech Checks thrice that of Karma.
[7][Perk] Psyker: Esoteric: 20 Perk. Diviner
[6][Perk] Speech: Diplomacy: 60 Perk: White-tongued
[6][Perk] Speech: Diplomacy: 80 Perk. I Still Believe
[2][Perk] Education: General: 40 Perk. Intriguing... Your knowledge opens doors that might otherwise be closed. Provides a +10 bonus to Medicine, Forging, and Combat.
[2][Perk] Education: General: 60 Perk. I Know Lots of Things! Your knowledge base allows you to make connections most people can't. Provides a +10 bonus to Perception, Electronics, Explosives, Psyker, and Invention Checks.
[2][Perk] Education: General: 120 Perk. Genius. You are quite simply, the mental superior of most people. You can figure things out no one else would ever guess the solution for. +25 to Perception, Electronics, Explosives, Psyker, and Invention Checks. Must have 4 of preceding Perks.
[2][Perk] Education: General: 140 Perk. Genius Among Geniuses. Even among other geniuses, you are a mental giant. Problems that would stump a genius for weeks, you can solve in minutes. +25 to all Skill Checks. Must have Genius.
[1][Perk] Education: General: 160 Perk. Supergenius. Even among geniuses, you are a prodigy, a one in a billion intellect. Problems that have stumped scientists for years, you solve in a week. +50 to all Skill Checks. Must have GAG.
[1][Perk] Education: General: 180 Perk. Mega-Genius. You are a one in ten billion intellect. You solve problems that have left scientists sobbing in despair in weeks. +100 to all Skill Checks. Must have Supergenius.

Total No. of Voters: 26
 
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