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Libra's Lament, a Magical Girl Quest [Complete]

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ShadowAngelBeta said:
Because the other factions are so large they would squish us like ants? Scattered and as low numbered as they are, MGs wouldn't be able to carve out any meaningful space to build a society on their own.
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I am pretty sure such societies already exist. Where do magical girls that don't like their choice of 'kill or get killed', or wandering the world while casually raising zombies go? We pretty much sent the 'other quest protagonist' to search for one in the Prologue. With humanity confined to a few enclaves barely struggling to survive (parts of UES outside of Europe still have problems with electricity and water supply), people have neither the manpower nor the inclination to go searching for their hiding places. And that's before taking into account that magic could help mask those.

And I believe there is a pretty good chance there are still human societies remaining besides what's left of the 'civilized world'. They are probably in a much poorer condition, but they may have different attitudes compared to the rest if they had to rely on magic for continued existence.

I am not sure why Human Nature is used as a blanket excuse to alienate ourselves completely from mankind, as if they were made to harbor all the conceivable vices and none of the virtues. All it is is the background option that says there was a World War and that magical girls are now considered a liability. It is pretty much the same humanity we'd get with the other options, but with a different experience.
 
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I am fully in favor of going off to live with the fae and/or searching for other Magical Girls to try to create a community
 
Naron said:
Do you know the best part about this discussion?
Most of it is pretty similar to a clash of views that actually happened in the setting.

And no, mom killed by monster/demon/whatever is way too simple a thing for me to do. I have... better plans.


As for having no boys left if you kill off humanity... well, interspecies breeding is possible with elfs and angels... and some demons, but let us not talk about that.
Also, note to self, need to make a demon with a long, slobby tongue just to mess with you guys.

Additionally, quite a few Magical Girls do not really age due to their... conditions.


And lastly, while genocide of humankind is on the table, so is overturning the system and reconciling humans with Magical Girls. It is up to what you want.
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If you want to tragically kill her off, house collapsing from age would give the girls a very healthy fear of houses.
 
If you put enough levels in your DD, she will be Anti-Everything; everything includes houses.

DarkKing98 said:
If you want to tragically kill her off, house collapsing from age would give the girls a very healthy fear of houses.
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And why do you suspect me to kill her?
Having her live and join the secret supersoldier project to become your nemesis is far more appealing. :V
No, I do not actually mean it.
 
Naron said:
If you put enough levels in your DD, she will be Anti-Everything; everything includes houses.



And why do you suspect me to kill her?
Having her live and join the secret supersoldier project to become your nemesis is far more appealing. :V
No, I do not actually mean it.
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Because for some reason, you must suffer for having magic.
 
ShadowAngelBeta said:
Genocide and/or Conquering them with Hell at our back. Or Heaven. I'm not picky on that front I think.
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I say it again, these fractions ran away from humanity. Because humanity are somewhat scary idiots with their self-destructive behavior. Joining a group and make them help us is (in my opinion) even harder then creating a save place for MG´s.

Naron said:
As for having no boys left if you kill off humanity... well, interspecies breeding is possible with elfs and angels... and some demons, but let us not talk about that.
Also, note to self, need to make a demon with a long, slobby tongue just to mess with you guys.
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See above, but no one knows what could happen. Maybe we find some, but as far as I know you, I clearly doubt it, that this will happen to us.

Naron said:
And no, mom killed by monster/demon/whatever is way too simple a thing for me to do. I have... better plans.
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I have the feeling this "plans" will make me want to punch you ...... like always. .............. Stop the evil laughing.

Nevill said:
I am not sure why Human Nature is used as a blanket excuse to alienate ourselves completely from mankind, as if they were made to harbor all the conceivable vices and none of the virtues. All it is is the background option that says there was a World War and that magical girls are now considered a liability.
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Yep, why see only the bad things and why make it even worse? Destroying and killing everything isnt something that is useful/helpful, its not even evil. It is dumb. Just like thinking every single human hates MG´s. Maybe we find some or some people our little girls know wouldnt hate us. Hey we even has a slight chance that our mother dont hates us. Ok maybe she isnt happy with that but she is a mother, she truly love her little girls.

Like Nevill said dont just believe in the worst parts of humanity.
 
Dragou said:
I say it again, these fractions ran away from humanity. Because humanity are somewhat scary idiots with their self-destructive behavior. Joining a group and make them help us is (in my opinion) even harder then creating a save place for MG´s.



See above, but no one knows what could happen. Maybe we find some, but as far as I know you, I clearly doubt it, that this will happen to us.



I have the feeling this "plans" will make me want to punch you ...... like always. .............. Stop the evil laughing.



Yep, why see only the bad things and why make it even worse? Destroying and killing everything isnt something that is useful/helpful, its not even evil. It is dumb. Just like thinking every single human hates MG´s. Maybe we find some or some people our little girls know wouldnt hate us. Hey we even has a slight chance that our mother dont hates us. Ok maybe she isnt happy with that but she is a mother, she truly love her little girls.

Like Nevill said dont just believe in the worst parts of humanity.
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Also as QM said, our debate has happened in universe once. That helps us.

Also, not only that, there are surly families who were saved by Magical Girls and members of those families as well. I doubt we are the first Magical Girl to ever have healing powers. They probably don't agree with the general consensus about Magical Girls.

Also, prepare for more edge that you could cut yourself on because apparently Human Nature means to some to be the edgiest thing on existence.
 
DarkKing98 said:
Also as QM said, our debate has happened in universe once. That helps us.

Also, not only that, there are surly families who were saved by Magical Girls and members of those families as well. I doubt we are the first Magical Girl to ever have healing powers. They probably don't agree with the general consensus about Magical Girls.

Also, prepare for more edge that you could cut yourself on because apparently Human Nature means to some to be the edgiest thing on existence.
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Pls dont give him ideas. But it wont be only edgy or such things. At least if he cant pin the reason for that mostly on us or we make it that way (by accident).
 
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DarkKing98 said:
Oh no, I was talking about someone else, not Naron. He is not that evil.
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You DONT know anything. He IS that evil.

Naron said:
Are you sure about that?
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See?!

Naron said:
Please give me ideas :V

Either way, I have a lot of stuff planned for you already. Do not worry.
Or do worry, whatever you prefer.
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No we dont give you ideas who will destroy us and stop making us paranoid.
 
Naron said:
Please give me ideas :V

Either way, I have a lot of stuff planned for you already. Do not worry.
Or do worry, whatever you prefer.




Are you sure about that?
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Demon invasion neighboring town. I'm curious as to see how the existence of demons without blowing our own cover will effect us.

And yes, I am.
Dragou said:
You DONT know anything. He IS that evil.



See?!



No we dont give you ideas who will destroy us and stop making us paranoid.
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In my experience, paranoia is the biggest Magical Girl killer.
 
DarkKing98 said:
Also as QM said, our debate has happened in universe once. That helps us.
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Not really?

I mean, it didn't happen 'once', it's that various groups are pretty polarized as to where do they go from here. It is a constantly ongoing thing, likely with people on both sides advocating for lenient or extreme measures according to what they believe in.

The treatment of magical girls is a matter of policy. They are considered walking nuclear devices by the government (seeing how they can magic cities out of existence), and as such need to be disarmed/neutralized. Not everyone will agree with these policies, and not everyone will be able to enforce them even when they do. The farther you go from official authorities with firepower to spare, the better your chances are to live your life peacefully. The fear and loathing will die down in a couple of generations in absence of new developments.

Still, there wouldn't be a quest if there weren't any, and our protagonists don't have the luxury of living 50 years after the cataclysm. So that doesn't help us all that much. Putting some physical distance between us and the cities, or joining with some outlaw groups may still be our best options once discovered. Seeking factions that would be amenable for cooperation might be possible, but they are not the ones currently in power... and we better not try putting them there by force.
 
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Nevill said:
Not really?

I mean, it didn't happen 'once', it's that various groups are pretty polarized as to where do they go from here. It is a constantly ongoing thing, likely with people on both sides advocating for lenient or extreme measures according to what they believe in.

The treatment of magical girls is a matter of policy. They are considered walking nuclear devices by the government (seeing how they can magic cities out of existence), and as such need to be disarmed/neutralized. Not everyone will agree with these policies, and not everyone will be able to enforce them even when they do. The farther you go from official authorities with firepower to spare, the better your chances are to live your life peacefully. The fear and loathing will die down in a couple of generations in absence of new developments.

Still, there wouldn't be a quest if there wern't any, and our protagonists don't have the luxury of living 50 years after the cataclysm. So that doesn't help us all that much. Putting some physical distance between us and the cities, or joining with some outlaw groups may still be our best options once discovered. Seeking factions that would be amenable for cooperation might be possible, but they are not the ones currently in power... and we better not try putting them there by force.
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We put them there by campaign.

Child innocence is amazing.
 
Dragou said:
Why DARK Magical Girls? Maybe i am alone with this but that our girls here can be somewhat live a happy/better life should be our goal. Not just killing everything. How should it help if we destroy the world again? Killing all doesnt help or isn´t in anyway somewhat that we should strive for.
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I meant his username
 
Nevill said:
I am pretty sure such societies already exist. Where do magical girls that don't like their choice of 'kill or get killed', or wandering the world while casually raising zombies go? We pretty much sent the 'other quest protagonist' to search for one in the Prologue. With humanity confined to a few enclaves barely struggling to survive (parts of UES outside of Europe still have problems with electricity and water supply), people have neither the manpower nor the inclination to go searching for their hiding places. And that's before taking into account that magic could help mask those.

And I believe there is a pretty good chance there are still human societies remaining besides what's left of the 'civilized world'. They are probably in a much poorer condition, but they may have different attitudes compared to the rest if they had to rely on magic for continued existence.

I am not sure why Human Nature is used as a blanket excuse to alienate ourselves completely from mankind, as if they were made to harbor all the conceivable vices and none of the virtues. All it is is the background option that says there was a World War and that magical girls are now considered a liability. It is pretty much the same humanity we'd get with the other options, but with a different experience.
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Well, they and I said "Society." Which is... kind of a bit more than what would basically be scattered refugee camps? And I give them a 50/50 for being ruled over by the MGs in their village if they do accept them.
Dragou said:
I say it again, these fractions ran away from humanity. Because humanity are somewhat scary idiots with their self-destructive behavior. Joining a group and make them help us is (in my opinion) even harder then creating a save place for MG´s.
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Except we've been told that we can join them and we'll be seen as Pariahs more than anything, which is still better than 99% of the current humanity. And we've been all but told that they're likely poking their noses around again now that the dust has settled.

Well, the Demons definitely are at the very least.
DarkKing98 said:
Demon invasion neighboring town. I'm curious as to see how the existence of demons without blowing our own cover will effect us.
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Honestly? Probably not much at all. In order to be considered in a worse light than Magical Girls they'll need to be... well worse than Magical Girls. Which is totally true, but the problem is MGs kind of caused/were the face of the collapse of human civilization and killed tons of people. Some probably in pretty horrific ways.

By the time the demons are able to show that they are the worse of the two options, humanity's already gonna be completely fucked.

And yes, I am.
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And this makes me hope he really is that evil.
 
You might be referring to that, the bolded part to be exact:

Naron said:
Human Nature - Magic was used solely to bolster a nation's military power, then old grudges and the thought this may be enough for a decisive victory kicked off a war. Unified Dark had been investigating humankind by that point; both they and the Unified Light had just initiated a first contact when the war began.
Once they saw what that new race was doing to itself, both sides flipped their everything; their reaction can be summed up as follows:

:o:o:o:o:o:o NopeNopeNopeNopeNope
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Even more than four years after the war ended, they do not dare initiate contact in any way; some people do have relations with the other races on both sides, but those are mostly exceptions to the rule. If you want to reach beyond Earth, you will be met with a lot of prejudices and wariness.
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Voting is closed; I guess there will be no more.
Adhoc vote count started by Naron on Aug 17, 2017 at 4:03 AM, finished with 96 posts and 8 votes.
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