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Mercenary Mage Quest: Asur Dogs of War in Warhammer Fantasy

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K von Carstein said:
Well, crap. On the other hand, not killing Dorial is incredibly stupid and will bite her in the ass. I wonder if when possessing spellcasters she can also cast spells.
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The thing probably thought he was not worth the trouble. Rather than waste time (and possibly a good host), it decided to go straight for the main prize, as was the plan from the beginning.
 
Sertorius said:
That's the point, conventional killing might not have been possible (after seeing the arrow trick) or not worth it (losing current host, that allows the thing access to the prize).
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Dorial is obviously pretty injured (probably cracked ribs, plus the muscle he tore). Like, after the arrow, he staggered and grunted. It seems pretty easy to understand he's injured and easy prey. It's just being arrogant.
 
Parrying the arrow still means Dorial is tougher than a one-hit kill. And pulled muscles do not show:tongue:
With a fast, trusted and stealthy host, it's time to rrrrush towards an important target. Flame, brilliant treachery, ascension!
Can Daemons really stop behaving like shards shed from their master?
(Skarbrand's story is actually quite interesting in this regard. But it could just have been already possible for him, as Khorne is also hypocritical. And in general they are creatures made from the purest evil, that can never become good; for that kind of anime stories, you need to go to the vampires)
 
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Warmachine375 said:
@Blackout , is Alarielle really kind to all living beings so long they ain't Chaos she will always oppose or just kind to her fellow Asur?
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She is kinder to all living beings than most Asur, but still generally considers Asur to be the most important.

And she is definitely not kind to Druchii.

Tyrion leapt from the bushes, driving Sunfang into the back of one of the scouts. He heard a scream from nearby and, turning, saw that Alarielle had put an arrow through the eye of the leader. The remaining pair of druchii were distracted for a moment, unsure who to shoot at, the sight of a warrior in their own armour bearing a blazing sword confusing them for a crucial second.

Tyrion covered the distance between him and the closest in three strides. The immediate threat made the druchii swing his crossbow towards Tyrion. Sunfang swept down and cleaved it in two. Tyrion dropped the dark elf with his second cut and turned in time to see the last scout's crossbow pointed directly at him. There was no way he could close fast enough to avoid being shot. The dark elf's finger squeezed the trigger. An arrow flashed through the air and took him in the side of the neck, sending him falling to one side, spoiling his aim.
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The other two riders charged towards Tyrion. Their beasts bellowed deafeningly. Tyrion watched the two massive monsters close with him, following the play of muscles beneath their scaly skin, readying himself to face them. A few hundred strides behind came a company of druchii soldiers.

An arrow whizzed out of the background and took the left-hand rider through the visor of his helmet. It was an awesome shot with an improvised bow.
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Tyrion considered pursuing the fleeing dark elves, but that would mean losing contact with Alarielle; he was not going to let that happen again. He turned and was surprised to see that she was still there, aiming her bow. Tyrion stepped to one side. She let loose her arrow and was rewarded with a scream from the far end of the corridor.

'Now they'll know that they're not the only ones who can shoot,' she said.
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Something quivered in the ground at his feet. A crossbow bolt. He looked around to see who had fired it. An arrow whizzed past his ear and into a bush. A scream rang out through the night. Alarielle's shot had found its target.
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-Bane of Malekith
 
Blackout said:
She is kinder to all living beings than most Asur, but still generally considers Asur to be the most important.

And she is definitely not kind to Druchii.


-Bane of Malekith
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The funniest thing about this is just how deadly Alarielle is with a bow despite the invasion presumably being the first time she used a bow in violence.

Looks like Alith Anar's got some competition :tongue:
 
Imperious said:
The funniest thing about this is just how deadly Alarielle is with a bow despite the invasion presumably being the first time she used a bow in violence.

Looks like Alith Anar's got some competition :tongue:
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Given how much the Druchii like to assassinate Everqueens, she was likely trained as hard as any Sister of Avelorn.
 
K von Carstein said:
Given how much the Druchii like to assassinate Everqueens, she was likely trained as hard as any Sister of Avelorn.
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The whole point of the Sisters of Averlorn is to provide a militant arm to protect the, largely pacifist, priestesses of Isha. Alarielle being as willing to use violence as she is is actually noted to mark her as a maverick compared to other Everqueens.
 
Imperious said:
The whole point of the Sisters of Averlorn is to provide a militant arm to protect the, largely pacifist, priestesses of Isha. Alarielle being as willing to use violence as she is is actually noted to mark her as a maverick compared to other Everqueens.
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Yes, but the average priestess of Isha isn't a privileged target of the Druchii. It's only logical the the Everqueen would get extra training to deal with that fact.
 
Just because Priestesses of Isha are forbidden from taking lives doesn't mean they don't know how to fight.

Again, remember that all elves are taught how to shoot a bow before they are taught to read, and how to use sword and spear before writing. Just because you become a Priestess later in life doesn't mean those skills just go away.
 
FallenDawn said:
Really? Maybe it's because I was reading the A Dynasty of Dynamic Alcoholism but in the quest, I'm pretty sure that Alarielle was killing druchii? I hope this isn't a spoiler for people who didn't read it.
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I am pretty sure that is an Alarielle thing, not an Everqueen thing, and that she is breaking with the choices of past Everqueens in doing so.

But she's Everqueen, so the limits on what Priestesses of Isha can do is sorta something she can just dictate, including restrictions on her own actions.

She still has limits on what Isha will allow her power to be put towards, but killing with arrows isn't something the Isha side gets final say on.
 
FallenDawn said:
Really? Maybe it's because I was reading the A Dynasty of Dynamic Alcoholism but in the quest, I'm pretty sure that Alarielle was killing druchii? I hope this isn't a spoiler for people who didn't read it.
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I mean, I don't recall that from DoDA, but I did post a list of quotes about Alarielle killing Druchii couple posts up, but the situation is a little bit more nuanced than that.

First of all, Alarielle is not a Priestess of Isha, she is the Everqueen, the mortal avatar of Isha. A goddess cannot break her own rules: as far as the Asur are concerned, if Alarielle is more militant than previous Everqueens, that indicates that in these warlike times even the Goddess of Life has chosen to take up arms to defend her domain.

Secondly, she uses a bow to do it, rather than directly killing them with Isha's power, which (at least in the novels and more relevantly in this quest, some canon sources disagree) is impossible.
 
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I feel like in DoDA, Allarielle was using a bow for long range stuff, and otherwise was using her powers to like, banish Dark Magic or form big shields or healing and such, things like the Shield of Thorns spell on allied troops. At most, if she uses her cleansing powers to banish corruption and daemons and the like, that's not quite killing. If zooping corruption happens to make something no longer function in the material realm, that's not really killing 'em directly with Isha power That sounds reasonable to have happened. Like, if it really came down to it, throwing hands or beating someone to death with her staff would still not be the same thing as using Isha's divine powers to kill.
 
torroar said:
I feel like in DoDA, Allarielle was using a bow for long range stuff, and otherwise was using her powers to like, banish Dark Magic or form big shields or healing and such, things like the Shield of Thorns spell on allied troops. At most, if she uses her cleansing powers to banish corruption and daemons and the like, that's not quite killing. If zooping corruption happens to make something no longer function in the material realm, that's not really killing 'em directly with Isha power That sounds reasonable to have happened. Like, if it really came down to it, throwing hands or beating someone to death with her staff would still not be the same thing as using Isha's divine powers to kill.
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Yeah, I would tend to agree that banishing daemons and unbinding undead doesn't count as killing.

And, like, "The Everqueen cannot kill people with Isha's power" is not any kind of objective truth, in the Armybooks she is explicitly described as being able to kill anyone with even the slightest bit of corruption in them at a touch, manifesting ingame as her having Heroic Killing Blow against the Forces of Destruction.

However, in the novel Sons of Ellyrion, she is described as only being able to revert a Chaos Lord and his Hellsteed back into their ordinary, untainted forms, and when Slaanesh gets jealous and twists the Chaos Lord into a Spawn, she cannot destroy it because no matter how corrupted it is still alive, and it is anathema to the nature of Isha to take a life, so she just steps back and lets the protagonist Mage deal with it instead.

I just went with the novels over the Armybooks in this instance because I think that's cooler and more fitting. It emphasizes just how powerful the Everqueen is, that she can outright revert and remove the blessings of Chaos, a feat I don't recall seeing anywhere else in the entirety of Warhammer Fantasy, which really serves to emphasize that here is the mortal avatar of a Goddess with a capital G, that Chaos are not the only ones with divine backing and their power is not infinite or impossible to overcome.

But such power also comes with limitations, because gods are beings of the Aethyr, shaped and given form by their own narratives. Isha can no more use her power to take a life than Tzeentch can be honest. The Everqueen cannot use Isha's power to kill, not even a Chaos Spawn.

And that's much more interesting to me than Isha just being able to do whatever.
 
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Nagash: Ha! Fool! You can't defeat me! You're not allowed to use your powers to fight!

Allarielle: Not against the living, no.

Nagash: ...I miscalculated again, didn't I?
 
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