I'll vote for it I guess. I might switch later.

[X] Plan: Unholy Alliance (without the cure)
-[X] Yes (When the Black Arms return, you and GUN will collaborate to fight them, collaboration next turn to study the Black Arms, material)
--[X] with some conditions
---[X] thunderbolt release into our care in exchange we give Zomom as a prisoner instead
---[X] assistance in extracting, Chuck Thorndyke and his grandson from Zakvok in exchange for having a full copy of the entire research that Chuck did while he was under the D6 control.
---[X] Share "Evila's Swingin Report Show" Network Frequency
---[X] Dropping the charges of the auction for the stealing of the lance off Starline, Stone and Canaan.
---[X] Share intel on Zavok movements

But the thing about inviting GUN onto it means that if we release it, GUN will receive the vast majority of the credit for it. Most people like GUN a lot more than they like Eggman, and not for unjustified reasons. Biases will just mean that we won't get the proper credit for it.

...Touche. The diease is our legacy to cure.

Though I wouldn't be too torn up about get their help if it turns out like that.

[X] Plan: Unholy Alliance (without the cure)
-[X] Yes (When the Black Arms return, you and GUN will collaborate to fight them, collaboration next turn to study the Black Arms, material)
--[X] with some conditions
---[X] thunderbolt release into our care in exchange we give Zomom as a prisoner instead
---[X] assistance in extracting, Chuck Thorndyke and his grandson from Zakvok in exchange for having a full copy of the entire research that Chuck did while he was under the D6 control.
---[X] Share "Evila's Swingin Report Show" Network Frequency
---[X] Dropping the charges of the auction for the stealing of the lance off Starline, Stone and Canaan.
---[X] Share intel on Zavok movements
 
[X] Plan: A Inch is just a inch

This is fine.

Is there going to be a counter offer from Towers, or just a straight DC check?
 
...Er guys? Why are we not using this oppertunity for all it's worth?

Trying costs us absolutely nothing so why aren't we going for it?
 
[] Plan: Stop trying to take a mile when given a inch
[] Yes (When the Black Arms return, you and GUN will collaborate to fight them, collaboration next turn to study the Black Arms, material)
-[] with some conditions
--[] thunderbolts release into our care in exchange we give Zomzom as a prisoner instead
--[] Dropping the charges of the auction for the stealing of the lance off Starline, Stone and Canaan.

Edit: Woke up and hit enter. Caught up with chat and changed vote.
 
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You know considering how many things are being brought back to life.

Do you think Black Doom has in reserve the Biolizard?

Just watching an interesting video that seems to be that everything that went wrong with the ARK was cause of this thing.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_EXi-MaaWE

...Er guys? Why are we not using this oppertunity for all it's worth?

Trying costs us absolutely nothing so why aren't we going for it?
Tbh as I said, if Towers want a more serious deal, then he better get his shit in order.

This is still our first negotiation with a faction that has formed so much bad blood over the years between both parties for good reasons.

Towers may be trusted to a certain point.

But people like Walters will go routes that could screw a lot of people if given enough leeway.
 
...Er guys? Why are we not using this oppertunity for all it's worth?

Trying costs us absolutely nothing so why aren't we going for it?
Because our position isn't actually all that strong. We got no factories, the smallest territory in Green Hills, and a bunch of soldiers at our front door. We need to keep our requests reasonable if we want them to be answered.

Plus it will help future negotiations if we act reasonably now.

As it stands, GUN and the Restoration can just drown us in bodies and loot our labs, just we drove off the Black Arms after they were weakened.
 
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I mean Rouge would make sure GUN not try anything funny towards Chuck and also she probably want the doctor's help to help Shadow and she care way more for him then her job.

Also the "crack under pressure" is Zavok threaten to kill his grandson and he totally would kill Chris or at least hurt him to get Chuck to behave.

GUN is many things but not that and, this is important, we need to pass that action.

Chuck literally has the Horde under his command he can make GUN and the doctor to listen to his demands.

You may be willing to risk but I sure as heck don't want a Greald Robotnik 2.0 messing with our technology.

No offense Soberan, but as Boohoo said, please stop with the glazing of G.U.N. Its making me unconfortable too.

Will say this, even if canon GUN Are teh the good guys, the ark incident still happened, doesn't matter if the membersa involved arent part of GUN Anymore, any organization can be corrupted or fuck up, GUN isnt inmune to that an dthing may cha nge in the quest.

Also, reminder that even if that's how they are in canon, in quest things CAN and WILL Change, Towers may mean good but tthings arent as black or white or as clear as you may think.

I Know you out GUN in a pedestal and its fine to do that, but just becauswe you have an image of GUN it doesnt mean thats how they are in quest, like at all.

Rather infuriated right now not gonna lie.

Our sequencing of actions have fucked us over.

Chuck is blackmailing us.

We need to deal with an aggressive Zavok.

GUN reveals Rouge knows about the lance AND Chaos Emerald we have. So we very well likely are losing BOTH OF THOSE THINGS THIS TURN.

And then there's Omega going guns blazing, potentially dealing noteworthy damage to our Hero Units right before a mandatory Adventure

And who knows what Rouge is going to threaten us with if we don't comply with whatever thing she wants from us!

This entire thing is utterly crap!

I know this mkaes you angry, but trust us, we wouldn't just fuck you guys like this, trust us a bit. Things are not as bad as you think.

Or you can keep complaining and swearing I guess until the update is released.

I know its annoying and even infuriating when plans change and sudden situations arrive, but trust us, we wouldn't intentionally fuck with you.
Thinking about it, how many Egg guns we had left?

Cause we are totally giving one to Belle for self protection.
Only 1 egg gun left

Btw @Kingster can we exchange our intel on the Empire thanks to Agent Stone in exchnage for Zavok intel if GUN has it?

Noooo? You don't have much if any intel at allk of the Empire, you barely passed the infiltration, you wont get anything worthwhile yet, you will need to infiltrate a deep further before you can offer that.

It could be rephrased as "release prisoners you arrested for Eggman sympathies to me and I'll give you Zomon." It'd probably involve a contested roll. I don't care too much for it because getting multiple hero units out of this feels cheap.
Towers aint doing that, even if you offer him a ZETI.

getting thunderbolt is the most you are getting right now.
 
At least that means the fat guy will not be our problem.

Like good luck keeping tame that mass of blob, pretty sure they will have to spent some resources in feeding the guy enough so he doesn't cause a break out.
 
Tbh as I said, if Towers want a more serious deal, then he better get his shit in order.

This is still our first negotiation with a faction that has formed so much bad blood over the years between both parties for good reasons.

Towers may be trusted to a certain point.

But people like Walters will go routes that could screw a lot of people if given enough leeway.

...Screw us over how?

Half of the thing we are asking for actively benefit GUN and the other half is so small it's inconsequential.

The only way this could go wrong is if they double cross us after the fact when it no longer matters.

Because our position isn't actually all that strong. We got no factories, the smallest territory in Green Hills, and a bunch of soldiers at our front door. We need to keep our requests reasonable if we want them to be answered.

Plus it will help future negotiations if we act reasonably now.

As it stands, GUN and the Restoration can just drown us in bodies and loot our labs, just we drove off the Black Arms after they were weakened.

Our requests are reasonable?

Our demands are so far-

Help us cripple the Zeti. (Benefits us both)
Cure NIDS (Benefits everyone and isn't evil)
Thunder for Zom (Fair trade)
New channel (Literally nothing.)
Charges (iffy but inconsequential)
Share intel on our mutal enemies.

...I don't see how any of that is unreasonable.


And what do you mean our position is weak? Did you forget what we just did to Zavoc?
 
Towers aint doing that, even if you offer him a ZETI.

getting thunderbolt is the most you are getting right now.
Honestly that just confirms my thoughts about the deal. Towers is open to it because it's a blatantly horrible for Eggman. We don't even need to roll to convince him to take Zomon for Thunderbolt.

At least that means the fat guy will not be our problem.

Like good luck keeping tame that mass of blob, pretty sure they will have to spent some resources in feeding the guy enough so he doesn't cause a break out.
Consider why Towers is so willing to take Zomon in exchange for Thunderbolt. It's not because Zomon knows much about Zavok's operations, that's for sure. I think we should be extremely confident that GUN will reverse-engineer the zeti technopathy and apply it against us. In comparison to that, what worth does recruiting Thunderbolt provide?

[X] Plan: An Inch without Creating Massive Problems
-[X] Yes (When the Black Arms return, you and GUN will collaborate to fight them, collaboration next turn to study the Black Arms, material)
-[X] with some conditions
--[X] thunderbolts release into our care
--[X] Dropping the charges of the auction for the stealing of the lance off Starline, Stone and Canaan.
--[X] Share "Evila's Swingin Report Show" Network Frequency
 
Honestly that just confirms my thoughts about the deal. Towers is open to it because it's a blatantly horrible for Eggman. We don't even need to roll to convince him to take Zomon for Thunderbolt.

We're already going to reasearch a way to counter the magnitism. Giving someone a weapon that will be useless to them isn't a bad deal.


And guys...remember the Giselle situation? The whole get an extremely powerful unit and information on a world threat for no cost in the begining? And instead we got Rusty.


We are being given a golden oppertunity guys, the worst possible senario to giving as many demands as we can is they say no to that demand and we move on losing nothing.
 
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