Okay, but let me be clear here, why would the Earth Kingdom people who have been literally enslaved to Fire Nation soldiers and had their bending banned want to stay in the Fire Nation? If we're freeing them and creating reforms in order to end the evils we specifically did to them that seem to be deeper-rooted than just the last five years, then why wouldn't they go, "Thanks, and and now leave."
Earth kingdom stubbornness? The same thing that has people live in actual earth's various more hellish environments when emigration elsewhere has never been easier? Maybe they don't. I'm in a quest, working with what the QM gives me, with the intent of playing to character and make use of the opportunities provided to me. Maybe things don't work out. That happens. It doesn't mean I should dismiss the possibility of their being a working solution.
And if we're doing so, we're already making enemies with the soldiers whose lands we'd presumably be breaking up, unless your proposal is that we declare, "Everyone is equal, but some people are more equal than others and get all the land and power (Firebending soldiers)."
Yes, there are going to be unfortunate compromises in the event of any sort of success which will lead to general dissatisfaction of all involved. Welcome to politics. I don't expect our character to finish as anyone's hero in this scenario, but I intend to uphold the deal to the best of the characters ability, and come success or failure, use the cooperations earned by doing so to limit the immediate negative impact and uncooperative and uncertain army can have on the overall situation.
Like, let's be clear here, this is blatantly not the case? It's blatantly not the case that things were fine in the New Territories until five years ago when they suddenly, like a switch was flipped at his ascension, stopped being fine.
Things were not fine, but they have invariably worsened under Ozai, in accordance with the quests canon and the MCs own background. Maybe things were just bad instead of hellish, maybe they were slowly improving. None of this changes the possibility to improve things.
Though honestly I feel like any attempt to hold onto the New Territories is going to inevitably fail. Like, if we're giving people any sort of voice whatsoever* then we don't hold onto the New Territories, and if we aren't then the Avatar just deposes everyone and rule collapses in that area anyways.
Your entitled to your own opinion. I think it's worth trying.
Why would they have a voice because we gave the territories up? They've been occupied for decades. The earth kingdom is rife with toxic might makes right mentality.
Democracy isn't exactly going to be implemented any time soon in either outcome. Isn't exactly a factor quest wise. None of the current nations implement it. Democracy in Korra was one of those weird leaps of logic where the industrial revolution is associated with democratic revolution and the ridiculousness of democracy forming so easily and being broadly accepted in a pro single ruler society is just casually ignored.
Question, @Granite , are we allowed to fucking lie? Can we say, "Oh, we'll definitely prevail upon him" and mostly spend our time arguing for the Old Colonies?
I don't think that would end well, but if you want to take the rallying Amari's faith in hand and then trample it into the dirt and hope it doesn't backfire, your going to have to make a lot more convincing arguments.
Like, to be clear here, my thought is, we know the following things:
1) Control and ownership of the land is divided between soldiers and high level bureaucrats/etc, of Fire Nation extract.
2) These people represent a fraction of the total population but have basically all of the power and wealth.
3) There's slavery in large quantities enough to occasion protest.
4) There's mass and total racism and cultural erasure.
Most of the soldiers, I'm guessing, are probably literally slaveowners or make use of cheap Earth Kingdom-ancestry labor that they oppress and abuse. Any reckoning that does not intentionally create apartheid or "post slavery Jim Crow" is going to piss them off.
We've agreed to push to keep the territories. Nothing has been said one way or another about how life in the territories may have to change in the face of compromises made to keep them. The goal is to uphold our agreement and use Amari's "honor" to force his own compliance and limit the obstacles to peace a resistant and difficult to reign in army might create in the absence of such an agreement.
We're getting something in return for attempting something with the understanding we likely won't be thanked by either side. It's better than starting at a disadvantage by rejecting Amari and allowing executed prisoners, ongoing battles, and rampant looting to throw a wrench into the works.
All this Amari buyers remorse from people who voted for him is a somewhat trying.
