The Long Night Part Three: Bonfire at Dawn (45k)

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since fast magic researcher has us being raised by xenos who should our parents be? Maybe we can be raised by the Quartok? I also heard that Avernus has Kitsune and polyamory so it would be funny we got raise by our father's kitsune/foxgirl harem
Since these would be hiding their nature (at least from most people); its not implausible that all of their skills for detection were worse then their deception/hiding.

resulting in none of them actually knowing that the rest aren't human.

I think this is implausible tho, because I don't think its a option for us to be a hybrid.
 
since fast magic researcher has us being raised by xenos who should our parents be? Maybe we can be raised by the Quartok? I also heard that Avernus has Kitsune and polyamory so it would be funny we got raise by our father's kitsune/foxgirl harem
Nurma doesn't have a canon backstory yet but most of the omake writers have talked about it, and they appear to have settled on her being raised in a woodsmen compound populated mostly by xenos. Her immediate family is composed of two kitsune, her human mother, and a shifter as parents along with a couple of siblings of which she's the only human IIRC as her father died when their compound was devestated when she was young.
 
since fast magic researcher has us being raised by xenos who should our parents be? Maybe we can be raised by the Quartok? I also heard that Avernus has Kitsune and polyamory so it would be funny we got raise by our father's kitsune/foxgirl harem

I actually rolled dice for this, the resutls should still be in the omakes channle on the discord.
 
5) Is the Magical Genius trait required to work on Telepathica Other projects or could a mundane governor with enough trust or other traits work on such projects?
5) mundane with enough trust could eventually

8) Does the Magical Genius trait even allow Nurma to take Telepathica Other projects or only Telepathica Research projects?
8) research
New discord questions reveal that the Magical Genius line just unlocks Telepathica research only. We'll be able to do the Other actions with a governor with enough trust anyway.

This effectively means 6 points lets us get Cataclysm spells done a few turns earlier.

It's very much not worth it.
 
New discord questions reveal that the Magical Genius line just unlocks Telepathica research only. We'll be able to do the Other actions with a governor with enough trust anyway.

This effectively means 6 points lets us get Cataclysm spells done a few turns earlier.

It's very much not worth it.

are there any other plans that have raised by xenos?
 
[X] Plan Diplomatic Sword
Plan Flexible Omnicompetent Delegator does.

I'm not sure I should vote for that plan or the sword plan.
Approval vote for both would be my suggestion and if one of them starts winning then you can decide if you want to only vote for one. It's a pretty solid plan though in my opinion its only drawback is that its lower random event chance means it's going to grow more slowly than Diplomatic Sword even though it has a lower Trait/Skill Value meaning it has an easier time gaining traits from its lower number of encounters but it's notably safer than the other plans as a result of not diving so deeply into the Hero's Luck tree.
 
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New discord questions reveal that the Magical Genius line just unlocks Telepathica research only. We'll be able to do the Other actions with a governor with enough trust anyway.

This effectively means 6 points lets us get Cataclysm spells done a few turns earlier.

It's very much not worth it.
That's not really accurate, though. By doing research actions, combined with the turbo trait gain, the character will very quickly be able to move onto harder research actions.
 
That's not really accurate, though. By doing research actions, combined with the turbo trait gain, the character will very quickly be able to move onto harder research actions.

I should point out that Xavier has done some research actions before and is still unable to take those harder actions. While you can argue that's due to him also focusing on leading the battle psykers, the governor will have much the same issue considering they'll also have to govern which would be the same issue.
 
I should point out that Xavier has done some research actions before and is still unable to take those harder actions. While you can argue that's due to him also focusing on leading the battle psykers, the governor will have much the same issue considering they'll also have to govern which would be the same issue.
Xavier's research spending was much lesser than other psyker characters, and his build is almost entirely built towards I, W, C, Control, Power. According to the Trait+Skill Value ratings he's at 26, it's not just leading Battle Psykers (his M investment is like 3rd among his stats), it's all his standard heroism actions.
 
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That's not really accurate, though. By doing research actions, combined with the turbo trait gain, the character will very quickly be able to move onto harder research actions.
Separate argument to Daemon's the main issue as I see it is that she'll effectively need a Learning Paragon to safely research most projects as we've been told we can no longer rely on Rids re-rolls, and even if she can count on those without a Learning Paragon she really struggles to find projects.
 
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I am altering my plan heavily because people seem to really want the fluff trait Raised by Xenos.

The total change log will be significant in terms of individual changes, but net change in stats is -2D, -2L, +4 I, +2 A, +1 W, +2M. Taking Prodigy+Gets People instead of the Genius Diplomat and Gets Science/Magic traits, then dropping Calm for Raised by Xenos.

New plan will be:
Innate (15)
Gets People 1
Chosen of Fate 3
Prodigy 8
Genius of the Sword 3
(+4 M, +4I, +4A, +4L, +4W, +6D, +5C, +50 to rolls with Swords, more likely to get sword traits, +5 Standing (Avernus), +10 Prestige, -3 Skill Value, 4x Random Encounter)

Acquired (10)
Skilled Delegator 1
Expert Delegator 2
Diplomatic 1
Skilled Diplomat 1
Raised by Xenos 2
A Fair Deal 2 +1 pen
(+4 A, +2I, +12D, +10 Standing (Council of Peoples), -5 Standing (Imperial Trust))

Base Stats
Martial: 15(21)+3=24
Intrigue: 14(19)+4=23
Administration: 11(16)+11=27
Learning: 15(20)+2=22
Will: 13(20)+4=24
Diplomacy: 13(20)+14=34
Combat: 14(23)+7=30
(Trait value 45/7+Skill Value 1-3 = 4)
 
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Diplo isn't inherently delegation focused. Most of the base stats aside from combat and will have some form of delegation in their wheel house. Admin for example has several forms of delegation under it's purview.
 
Diplo isn't inherently delegation focused. Most of the base stats aside from combat and will have some form of delegation in their wheel house. Admin for example has several forms of delegation under it's purview.
Durin specifically called out Diplomacy, Admin, and Martial as the delegation stats with Diplomacy as the closest to pure Delegation.
Delegation is from the looks of it, trait based rather than stat-based, though.
Durin stated that the really good delegation traits are locked behind exemplar-level stats.
 
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Xavier's research spending was much lesser than other psyker characters, and his build is almost entirely built towards I, W, C, Control, Power. According to the Trait+Skill Value ratings he's at 26, it's not just leading Battle Psykers (his M investment is like 3rd among his stats), it's all his standard heroism actions.

That I know, it's more that Nurma will be running into a similar issue herself. She's going to be split into multiple roles which will divide her trait gain among different paths. Rather than being a 100% researcher like Tamia, she'll instead by a 50% researcher 50% governor which would almost certainly slow the rate she'd pick up research traits.

To be clear, I do think that she'd be able to take on harder researches eventually. It's just that I expect that eventually to be something like 40-50 turns.
 
Delegation is from the looks of it, trait based rather than stat-based, though.
Durin specifically said the delegation traits we wanted require Exemplar, which is 40+ stat.
1) Lagsalot has been talking about diplomacy based delegation traits that provide buffs to a whole organization. Are those actually a thing? I couldn't find the khoswe leader he was referring to.
Durin — 11/03/2024 6:01 AM
1) yes but its both not the only way to get them
and not easy to reach
if they are the ones I am thinking of they are Exemplar tier traits
 
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