Fixed, thanks again.
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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Fixed, thanks again.
Good night guys, see you tomorrow as a Catholic priest is going to try to explain centuries old human sacrifice of one of their members to Murphy clan elders.
@DragonParadox is my proposed design viable?
If it is, I think our proposal would be like this:
1) Inform White Council of what we can give them. Have them, with our, possibly fae (via favors, if not Favors), and possibly Archive's involvement design subclauses and exceptions and nuance for the Laws. Base those on successful historical precedent of the use of Doom of Damocles (maybe use the crown to find all cases of the use of Doom of Damocles, where the person spared went on to be a good wizard), development of legal codes across the world, etc.
2) Make the Book of Laws. Give it to Merlin. He would be its master.
3) Give pigeons to those that sign the book.
This way, the council could set up a tiered system:
1) If you haven't signed the book, business as usual. Perhaps even harsher business than usual (less chance of Doom of Damocles being used).
2) If you signed the book, you can't break the Laws, except under council approved exceptions which you are aware of. You get the pigeon familiar that makes it so you aren't mentally damaged by doing harmful magic.
3) If somehow you break the effect (by counterspelling / breaking the charm-grade effect, mind you), Merlin immediately becomes aware of it, and sends death squads after you.
This should be an overall improvement.
If it is, I think our proposal would be like this:
1) Inform White Council of what we can give them. Have them, with our, possibly fae (via favors, if not Favors), and possibly Archive's involvement design subclauses and exceptions and nuance for the Laws. Base those on successful historical precedent of the use of Doom of Damocles (maybe use the crown to find all cases of the use of Doom of Damocles, where the person spared went on to be a good wizard), development of legal codes across the world, etc.
2) Make the Book of Laws. Give it to Merlin. He would be its master.
3) Give pigeons to those that sign the book.
This way, the council could set up a tiered system:
1) If you haven't signed the book, business as usual. Perhaps even harsher business than usual (less chance of Doom of Damocles being used).
2) If you signed the book, you can't break the Laws, except under council approved exceptions which you are aware of. You get the pigeon familiar that makes it so you aren't mentally damaged by doing harmful magic.
3) If somehow you break the effect (by counterspelling / breaking the charm-grade effect, mind you), Merlin immediately becomes aware of it, and sends death squads after you.
This should be an overall improvement.
You would need one of these for each of the Laws since it covers Attribute+Ability (Specialty). Black Magic is not all one specialty, but each law falls under a different kind of magic. Otherwise yes it will work as designed and while a skilled enough mage could counters-spell themselves out of it no one without the ability to use Ancient Sorcery could trick the book into not marking them for it.
I expected this, actually. That's doable. Expensive as hell, and a major project, but definitely doable. We could probably even get the council to pay for a lot of it - they are already fighting Red Court, might as well use those elder vampires and lords of outer night for something productive.
It's even better than way - it eliminates a single point of failure. You just need for the master of a given book to be able to show others the signatures (but not change them or their status in any way), and you have mutual trust in the senior council, where 7 of its members now start their meetings by showing each other the status of the book they own. Set yourself the supreme court of sorts.
Yeah, that should work.
slenderman1942
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Right, so once again, I think we should awaken Murphy's essence. having someone that we know is a good apple effectively becoming a wuxia character is a good thing. Allies are always good and having an in with law enforcement is also always a good thing.
We don't know how to awaken someone's essence yet. We can turn her into a fomor / awaken her shadow, like we did with Olivia, but that's a different thing. For one, essence awakening is unlikely to make you a creature of darkness.
The solar and abyssal ones, yes. They are too damn exposed. Leaving aside the possiblity of a controlled release, an uncontrolled one is not something I want to contemplate right now. Especially of the abyssal one.
There's also the lunar exaltation that we got information instead of anything else for our service to Lily it came in on a comet landed in the ocean somewhere in the northern Arctic near Greenland. It might have already been released because we know someone in I think Siberia was looking for it.
To be honest the question of the Abyssal and the Solar Shard are deeply concerning simply because Odin is looking for the chosen of death and even if he works his magic and manages to claim that particular Shard for his own the second he releases it to choose his own chosen of the slain solar Shard will be released immediately so unless it's containing the place where it cannot Escape like say the inside of a dimensional barrier or anything else it's going to just get away the second Odin releases the Abyssal.
I am fairly sure what Sanya prevented was not that particular lunar shard being released. But yes, that one is also a concern. We have at least two, liekly three celestial shards in relatively easy reach. We should at least put them under our control.
[X] Go talk to Detective Murphy
-[X] Take Father Forthil's offer (optional)
-[X] Take Father Forthil's offer (optional)
Slightly off-topic, but I've never understood how Listens-to-Wind could have done his schtick of going back through medical school every few decades, given the existence of techbane. Either he already knew a way around it like the one we taught to Harry, or a whole lot of people died in teaching hospitals his last couple times through.
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Didn'g Harry have a trick to supress that techbane long enough for a TV interview?
Maybe Joseph is just great at that particular spell.
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Harry is canonically one of the most powerful wizards and has one of the worst levels of Techbane, combined this with his youth and inability to control all his power plus the almost flagellation he submits to by not trying to make his own life easier (see how in the books he's always complaining about his living conditions when anyone can take five minutes to think of a better way to live while still following the laws of magic like all other wizards do) and thus not have the desire to keep refining his control and tecbane, which makes he a very atypical case.
Even so, he has the ability to increase the power of it to destroy electronics around him if necessary and holds it inside for short periods. Winds must be even better both because he is older and has better control and because he really has the motivation to control and reduce this flaw, to improve in his area of passion and be able to save more lives.
[X] Go talk to Detective Murphy
-[X] Take Father Forthil's offer (optional)
[X] Go talk to Detective Murphy
-[X] Take Father Forthil's offer (optional)
-[X] Meanwhile, send your electronic servants looking for other records of Father Murphy. Perhaps you'll find something to use as a crown focus, or other leads.
-[X] Take Father Forthil's offer (optional)
-[X] Meanwhile, send your electronic servants looking for other records of Father Murphy. Perhaps you'll find something to use as a crown focus, or other leads.
Timing matters, I think. If he does this every, say, four decades or so (one generation), and it's 2006 in-story, then the last time he did it could have been in ~ 1967-1970. Perhaps a bit earlier if his plans to go back to school were delayed by the brewing war with Red Court. At that time, there would be little to no digital equipment in the hospitals, and if he refrained from magic use while near relatively sensitive equipment, I believe he could have managed.
BoredMan
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[X] Go talk to Detective Murphy
-[X] Take Father Forthil's offer (optional)
-[X] Meanwhile, send your electronic servants looking for other records of Father Murphy. Perhaps you'll find something to use as a crown focus, or other leads.
-[X] Take Father Forthil's offer (optional)
-[X] Meanwhile, send your electronic servants looking for other records of Father Murphy. Perhaps you'll find something to use as a crown focus, or other leads.
Vote closed.
Arc 13 Post 38: Through the Steel Door
Through the Steel Door
13th of February 2007 A.D.
To your eyes Bucktown is a neighborhood under an invisible siege, small red-shingled homes, some of them still sporting the gardens where once the goats for which it got its name foraged valiantly holding the line against upscale eateries and the kind of glossy stone and glass box houses that occasionally cause Mom to mutter about the 'yuppie mothership being overhead.' Personally you think she's a little harsh, people should live in the kind of houses that make them comfortable, but it will be a sad day when the last compact colonial gives up the ghost. Judging from the little touches around the windows, new insulation and very hefty door you'd bet Detective Murphy's house still has a lot of life left in it. There is nothing subtle about the front door, solid steel and heavy enough a troll would have trouble busting though. You ring the bell and, Father Forthil at your side, wait patiently to pass inspection.
"Good Morning Father, Ms. Carpenter, what can I do for you?" It's always a bit of a start seeing Lieutenant Murphy after some time realizing just how short she is. Always taller in memory than in the flesh. "You said it was something personal, not work related?" There is a certain amount of suspicion to that question and there'd probably be more if you hadn't also brought a priest.
She offers you coffee, at the kitchen table with the waving away of protocol common to the truly busy. From the sheer number of sugar packets stuffed into the box on the counter you guess she usually takes her coffee black and so do most of her guests. Either that or she doesn't have many guests.
"We are here to ask some questions about family history," Father Forthil begins. "Quite old and the records are incomplete. A Father John Murphy came to Chicago in 1869 and he was the parish priest of Old St. Patrick's Church. Anything you could fill in about his reasons for coming here, his time in Chicago would be most appreciated." Words no doubt said with the greatest of good will, offering her a chance to leave the curtain of years and secrets closed if she so choose as many others half knowing of the secret world might have done. But to the woman across from you that kind of out of the blue question is like a trail to a bloodhound.
"Hold on there, what's this about? What's happened?"
"What happened is I went poking on the other side there in Chicago, what Harry calls the Nevernever, just to see if there isn't any kind of nasty surprise sideways of the Station I have my people staying at and see if it needed garrisoning."
"You can do that?" Obviously the thought had not occurred to her, probably because Harry being Harry was long on the dangers of trying and short on engineering and staffing solutions.
"Yeah, if you have someone aligned with the place or just a wizard, they can open a path anywhere," you shrug. "To be clear some places you shouldn't open up hence the checking."
She considers you for a moment, takes a sip of her coffee and explains. "The recommendation from the Library of Congress if you step through is 'have your last will and testament prepared'."
"Ever Watchful Majesty, Usum speaks up, methinks the warning is not as old as the language." He's probably right, an old warning maybe toughened when Dedalus started carving holes in the world and sending goons with guns though. I really should do something about that saw one of these days.
"Depends on how good a read you have of what links where and how fast you can step back," you lay things out as planly as you can without going into detail.
"So what did you find?" Her tone relaxes away from interrogation.
Father Forthil sighs, the reflex of those in the know within the Church not to speak of the Fallen hiting the cold, hard reality of just who he's talking to. "The remains of an old plot by a member of the Order of the Blackaned Denarius which involved Father John Murphy's death and the Great Chicago Fire."
"What kind of remains?"
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[] Write in - Tell the relevant bits without detail she doesn't need. A volcano sized bomb was left with a nasty tripwire that needs to be disarmed. They tore a powerful spirit in half to put it in endless torture as part of some scheme and then just left it there when it didn't give them what they wanted.
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