Or in other words: "Maybe if I pretend really hard that it isn't there then it'll go away?"
Later: "That worked... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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Later: "That worked... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Oh hey, it's this archetype - the character who substitutes superpowers for regular vision.
Useful. Probably not yet something you'd want to rely on to block a serious attack - too much risk of letting the attack through, or "shattering" it.
A full third. Pretty high ratio.
Amu does not have the knowledge needed to deal with this. But she does have a cell phone. I think she needs to start making phone calls.
Maybe call Lulu? I think France is 8 hours behind Japan. Classes just ended, which I think probably happens around 3:30 PM for a Japanese middle school, so it's probably something around 7:30 AM for Lulu. Considering what little we know of Lulu's sleep schedule and phone access, there's a pretty good chance Lulu picks up.
Other than that... I guess she could try some ex-Easter personnel?
I'm thinking something like
[][Rift] Have everyone but <SPECIFIC PEOPLE HERE, INCLUDING AMU> evacuate, while you stay to monitor the situation. Start making phone calls to people who might know something, or might have contacts who might know something. Start with Lulu, then <OTHER PEOPLE HERE>. Maybe get some classmates to fetch the other Guardians.
Hmm, now that you mention it, Lulu indeed might have some idea on this. And considering this particular thing came from a clash from psychic powers, what we're seeing might relate to the dream world, subconscious world or some such I guess.
In which case, assuming Amu made such a leap of insight... "Lulu, can holes to a dream world open in the real world?"
In which case, assuming Amu made such a leap of insight... "Lulu, can holes to a dream world open in the real world?"
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So, Odysseus is getting eaten? *rimshot*
He has been a Persona though
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[X] Plan: Damage Control
-[X][Classmates] Lead
--There's an unspoken understanding that yes, you're a magical girl, and yes, you'll deny that if asked, but they're happy enough to follow instructions. Tell them to get moving and get out, warn others to do the same throw the fire alarm if they have to.
-[X][Rift] Make some sort of attempt at fixing it yourself
--You have no idea how, and suspect you're the cause! This has a ¾ base chance of outright failure. So we have to bump those odds up, transform and use the Humpty lock then try and close the rift. If that fails and nothing horrifying is coming through try and get Tsukasa. If something is coming through delay and evacuate.
-[X][Saaya] Take pity
--She's not in a good place. You don't make a habit of mind-scraping your classmates, but you can tell that much. And her points didn't strike home, but they're also not exactly wrong…
Right the middle option may be a bit too controlling if so do mention it and I'll change it.
-[X][Classmates] Lead
--There's an unspoken understanding that yes, you're a magical girl, and yes, you'll deny that if asked, but they're happy enough to follow instructions. Tell them to get moving and get out, warn others to do the same throw the fire alarm if they have to.
-[X][Rift] Make some sort of attempt at fixing it yourself
--You have no idea how, and suspect you're the cause! This has a ¾ base chance of outright failure. So we have to bump those odds up, transform and use the Humpty lock then try and close the rift. If that fails and nothing horrifying is coming through try and get Tsukasa. If something is coming through delay and evacuate.
-[X][Saaya] Take pity
--She's not in a good place. You don't make a habit of mind-scraping your classmates, but you can tell that much. And her points didn't strike home, but they're also not exactly wrong…
Right the middle option may be a bit too controlling if so do mention it and I'll change it.
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I like the direction this is going. After Lulu, maybe Tsukasa (or send a classmate, if we don't have his number), and then Naomi, and then Utau? Someone is likely to have an idea, or know who might.
I don't think floundering around blind is smart right now.
[X][Rift] Make some sort of attempt at fixing it yourself
[X][Saaya] Ignore her
[X][Classmates] Lead
[X][Saaya] Ignore her
[X][Classmates] Lead
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I'm 70% sure this is Saaya's fault.
Not only can she see the tear, she implied that she's seen the likes of it before. Her saying "It's not gone" implies that they usually disappear when she sees them. And in fact, I get the impression she knows or suspects she herself may have caused it and jumped to immediately blaming Amu out of fear of the fact that she might have. That whole tirade about Amu being a freak might very well have been herself projecting her own fears about there being something wrong with her.
The class is not on Saaya's side and it doesn't seem like Saaya herself has been openly expressing her resentment until now. Something triggered this snap. It may have been just a gradual build-up of stress but if it was, my gut feeling is that said stress was linked to a build up of her own obvious psychic abilities.
My guess is, that tear might lead into the cognitive world. Maybe Saaya's shadow is through there, in the sort of proto-Palace the Persona 4 crew had to confront theirs in. In which case, going into there may or may not be a good idea. If Saaya has to confront her own shadow, there will probably be fighting as Saaya is the sort to deny all her insecurities and while Amu might be able to handle low-level shadows on her own, it would be better if she has backup fighting Saaya's personal shadow - Saaya has had a personal rivalry against her since elementary school, meaning that thing might have some specific anti-Amu stuff to throw at her.
Question for @Baughn - does Amu trying to fix it, mean trying to fix it from the outside or going into it and trying to fix it from the inside? If it's the former and my theory is right, having a 3/4 chance of failure is expected given that Saaya is the cause of it. If it's the latter, it implies we'd die solo against whatever is on the other side. Completely different implications.
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I'm going to have to think about it a bit more on how to phrase it, but my vote for Saaya is going to have Amu realize that Saaya has had prior experience with those and call her out on it, at least to find out what she knows, maybe also try to elicit some sort of cooperation.
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We're probably not looking at some kind of cascading reality failure here, because if it was that easy to suck a school campus (or a city...) into the Dream World it probably would have already happened somewhere Amu had heard of it. So my thinking is that we should evacuate the area, try and keep anything dangerous from coming through, and call someone else for help closing it.
Probably the best person to call is actually Tsukasa who is 1) the principal of the school, who would probably like to know about the crack in reality in one of his classrooms 2) probably near by and 3) responsible for this place being full of psychic children in the first place so really this is his fault anyway.
On the other hand Lulu did just tell us "If you spot anything abnormal [...] you let me know" and if this isn't abnormal nothing is. We can combine these options though, by sending our classmates to find Tsukasa (and also away from the rift) while we try to call Lulu. He's "rarely findable", but 30 kids can probably do better than one on that front.
I don't really expect Utau or Naomi to know anything special here, but Utau could at least contribute psychic power, assuming that would actually make things better rather than worse. (Naomi is busy with murder this week, and probably not willing to reveal herself anyway)
Dunno what to do about Saaya. Ignoring her doesn't seem like a great idea, but this isn't really the time to have a heart-to-heart, unless this is one of those rifts in reality that's really a metaphor for a rift in the social structure of the school and have to be resolved with urgent relationship management.
Probably the best person to call is actually Tsukasa who is 1) the principal of the school, who would probably like to know about the crack in reality in one of his classrooms 2) probably near by and 3) responsible for this place being full of psychic children in the first place so really this is his fault anyway.
On the other hand Lulu did just tell us "If you spot anything abnormal [...] you let me know" and if this isn't abnormal nothing is. We can combine these options though, by sending our classmates to find Tsukasa (and also away from the rift) while we try to call Lulu. He's "rarely findable", but 30 kids can probably do better than one on that front.
I don't really expect Utau or Naomi to know anything special here, but Utau could at least contribute psychic power, assuming that would actually make things better rather than worse. (Naomi is busy with murder this week, and probably not willing to reveal herself anyway)
Dunno what to do about Saaya. Ignoring her doesn't seem like a great idea, but this isn't really the time to have a heart-to-heart, unless this is one of those rifts in reality that's really a metaphor for a rift in the social structure of the school and have to be resolved with urgent relationship management.
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[x] Plan: Damage Control
-[X][Classmates] Lead
-[X][Rift] Make some sort of attempt at fixing it yourself
-[X][Saaya] Take pity
-[X][Classmates] Lead
-[X][Rift] Make some sort of attempt at fixing it yourself
-[X][Saaya] Take pity
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OK, these are my write-ins for all three choices:
[X] Plan: Saaya This Is Your Fault, But We'll Pretend It's Not
-[X][Saaya] Ground Saaya and stop her from panicking - Saaya just struck out at you mentally and then suggested that she'd seen this sort of thing before when she was shocked it didn't go away. That puts her wild tirade in a somewhat different light. Take a deep breath and channel your inner Su and Dia so you can say this to her quietly out of earshot, instead of shouting it, because you know Saaya would never admit to anything if everyone in the class could hear it. You say: "First off, I'm just going to leave aside that you called me a freak for now, because I get the feeling that I'm not actually the only one that you're thinking of when you say that. Secondly, you said 'it's not gone'.That means you've seen something like this before and it usually goes away. Does that mean you've seen something like this before and it usually goes away? Do you know what usually makes it go away?"
Again, this whole thing is probably tied to Saaya. There's a small chance that calming Saaya down would make it go away, though the narration carries a slight implication that Saaya's emotions may have "slipped away" from her when the crack got made and are now separate from her. But at the very least, calming her down may prevent it from getting worse and makes it easier to cooperate later if we need to.
By asking if she can knows anything to help (while keeping the implications of her having any knowledge implicit), it both focuses her attention on the immediate crisis and strokes her bruised ego a little bit. But that needs us to be speaking quietly instead of shouting, as Saaya is the sort who cares too much about her public reputation to admit that she might be the cause when everyone can hear. Just hope it doesn't need a dice roll for Amu to speak softly.
-[X][Classmates] Lead - Write in: One-third of our class can see that crack. Two-thirds of our class can't, only feel. Tell those who can't see to pair up with those who can, ideally two non-seers for each one who can, but if not, at least have one seer in each group. And then try and make their way outside of the classroom as quickly as possible in their groups. Through the nearest door, or even windows if that's a viable option.
We know there are die rolls associated with all these votes. Barring a perfect roll, that means whatever we vote on, some of these classmates are not going to make it out before I assume the rift widens and they get sucked in. Best to have them in groups with at least one psychic strong enough to see the phenomena if/when they do, to heighten their chances of survival on the other side until we can reach them and save them. Breaking them up into many groups also makes it so some groups will likely make it out of the classroom.
-[X][Rift] Call for reinforcements - There are ex-Guardians nearby whose abilities may be able to help do something about this, like Tadase. Call or text whoever you can reach nearby and tell them there's some rift in space that appeared in her classroom, please try to come ASAP, it's an emergency. Then call Lulu and ask her if she knows anything about rifts in reality and how one might deal with them. And then, only when your contacted allies arrive and everybody in the classroom successfully makes it out, head out to try and find Tsukasa, or get Tadase to call him if he has his number.
We call the nearby allies first, because I pretty much expect that whoever we call isn't going to arrive in time before the rift expands and sucks Amu in. But if we call them, they immediately know the situation and can go and get more help on their own as opposed to only finding out something went wrong hours later. Lulu could probably help, since she's in with JP's, but she's in France still and she would take a lot more time to arrange someone to show up at Amu's classroom than Kukai or Tadase could run down there. Lastly, who knows if Tsukasa is even in the building right now. If there's anyone that's a dice roll to reach, it's him.
I don't expect we'll actually get to the point where everyone is safe enough that we can spend time looking for Tsukasa, but we'll see.
[X] Plan: Saaya This Is Your Fault, But We'll Pretend It's Not
-[X][Saaya] Ground Saaya and stop her from panicking - Saaya just struck out at you mentally and then suggested that she'd seen this sort of thing before when she was shocked it didn't go away. That puts her wild tirade in a somewhat different light. Take a deep breath and channel your inner Su and Dia so you can say this to her quietly out of earshot, instead of shouting it, because you know Saaya would never admit to anything if everyone in the class could hear it. You say: "First off, I'm just going to leave aside that you called me a freak for now, because I get the feeling that I'm not actually the only one that you're thinking of when you say that. Secondly, you said 'it's not gone'.
Again, this whole thing is probably tied to Saaya. There's a small chance that calming Saaya down would make it go away, though the narration carries a slight implication that Saaya's emotions may have "slipped away" from her when the crack got made and are now separate from her. But at the very least, calming her down may prevent it from getting worse and makes it easier to cooperate later if we need to.
By asking if she can knows anything to help (while keeping the implications of her having any knowledge implicit), it both focuses her attention on the immediate crisis and strokes her bruised ego a little bit. But that needs us to be speaking quietly instead of shouting, as Saaya is the sort who cares too much about her public reputation to admit that she might be the cause when everyone can hear. Just hope it doesn't need a dice roll for Amu to speak softly.
-[X][Classmates] Lead - Write in: One-third of our class can see that crack. Two-thirds of our class can't, only feel. Tell those who can't see to pair up with those who can, ideally two non-seers for each one who can, but if not, at least have one seer in each group. And then try and make their way outside of the classroom as quickly as possible in their groups. Through the nearest door, or even windows if that's a viable option.
We know there are die rolls associated with all these votes. Barring a perfect roll, that means whatever we vote on, some of these classmates are not going to make it out before I assume the rift widens and they get sucked in. Best to have them in groups with at least one psychic strong enough to see the phenomena if/when they do, to heighten their chances of survival on the other side until we can reach them and save them. Breaking them up into many groups also makes it so some groups will likely make it out of the classroom.
-[X][Rift] Call for reinforcements - There are ex-Guardians nearby whose abilities may be able to help do something about this, like Tadase. Call or text whoever you can reach nearby and tell them there's some rift in space that appeared in her classroom, please try to come ASAP, it's an emergency. Then call Lulu and ask her if she knows anything about rifts in reality and how one might deal with them. And then, only when your contacted allies arrive and everybody in the classroom successfully makes it out, head out to try and find Tsukasa, or get Tadase to call him if he has his number.
We call the nearby allies first, because I pretty much expect that whoever we call isn't going to arrive in time before the rift expands and sucks Amu in. But if we call them, they immediately know the situation and can go and get more help on their own as opposed to only finding out something went wrong hours later. Lulu could probably help, since she's in with JP's, but she's in France still and she would take a lot more time to arrange someone to show up at Amu's classroom than Kukai or Tadase could run down there. Lastly, who knows if Tsukasa is even in the building right now. If there's anyone that's a dice roll to reach, it's him.
I don't expect we'll actually get to the point where everyone is safe enough that we can spend time looking for Tsukasa, but we'll see.
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Eh... "It's not gone" doesn't imply much. Someone who's never seen such a rift before could easily say the same thing. Maybe they'd lean toward phrasing like "it's still here", but "it's not gone" is quite plausible wording too. I could easily see myself yelling the same thing if I was in the classroom and saw these events.
I'd really rather not commit that hard to the "it's not gone" inference.
Assuming you still go for the Saaya thing, where should talking to Saaya fit into this? Before? Somewhere in the middle?
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It's not only that. Saaya also says this:
Why in god's name would she assume that nobody else could see it, if she hadn't had the exact experience of seeing it before only to have other people tell her she was going crazy and seeing things?
The default assumption is usually that everyone else with eyes can also see what she's seeing. Not that they can't. She has prior experience with this. If she hasn't seen THIS exact phenomenon before, she's seen things similar enough that she assumes nobody else can see them.
Plus:
70% sure she knew she fucked up at that point.
EDIT: I will also point out that, even if my inference is wrong, do we really lose anything by prompting Saaya about it anyway? If she doesn't know anything, she doesn't know anything. But we don't exactly lose anything just by asking her if she does. We don't gain anything by ignoring her and we'll probably LOSE by getting into a fistfight with her, plus Saaya is also highly likely to take pity as an insult.
Here, if I'm right, we stand to gain an awful lot. And if I'm wrong, we lose nothing. But OK, I'll also tweak it to make it less accusatory: "Secondly, you said 'it's not gone'. Does that mean you've seen something like this before and it usually goes away? Do you know what usually makes it go away?"
Saaya first. That's why I had the vote for talking to her before the Classmates and Rift. Saaya, Classmates, Rift in that order.
My suspicion is that the more aggravated Saaya gets, the faster the rift spreads. So Saaya first to try and stop it from spreading. Then Classmates to prevent casualties. Then actually try to fix the rift by calling in help.
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Mmm... stronger than the "it's not gone" inference. Her words here could be an "I'm not crazy, right? Other people are seeing this?" response rather than a "my god, someone else finally sees it" response, but the verb "breathed" and the non-questioning tone on the first "You can see it" suggest the latter rather than the former.
We lose a few things. Time is the big one. Even if she's seen these rifts before, trying to get the information out of her takes time. You seem to be expecting the situation to deteriorate pretty quickly:
You seem to be expecting the situation to deteriorate so quickly that Amu can't even evacuate all her classmates before some of them get sucked in, and so quickly that even allies in the same school can't arrive before Amu herself gets sucked in.
Talking to Saaya takes time that could be spent contacting other allies, whether for information or backup, or coordinating the evacuation.
Plus, if your inference is right, then either the rifts usually go away without Saaya's input, or she's already done whatever she thinks usually makes them go away, and it didn't work. If she knew how to make the rift go away and hadn't done it yet, then she wouldn't be surprised it hadn't gone away. That means at best, we learn what didn't work. Maybe we can make it work, with more power or other adjustments, but I don't know if it's a good use of our time.
Also, if Saaya and Amu both get sucked into the rift, Amu can ask her on the other side, assuming they both live.
Better, especially if you're right about the rift's growth being tied to Saaya's emotional state.
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This is true, but I will also point out that the only vote possible on Saaya that DOESN'T end up taking any time is the vote to ignore her.
And I'm pretty sure that's going to lead to bad things. In fact, I'm fairly certain all 3 default choices for the Saaya vote end badly. Fighting obviously, but since Saaya also apparently now has a complex about being lonely and ignored (at least as of this chapter, since in canon, she used to be popular and had fans), pitying her is going to piss her off.
Meanwhile I'm pretty sure ignoring her is, at best, going to make her panic more (since she's calling for Amu to fix this) and at worse, push her buttons about being inferior to Amu and set her off again. As the vote itself points out, she is not in a good state. The only thing I can see that might immediately improve her state is to say something to either completely distract her, or make her feel like she's helping and is important (or both). And I'm thinking that rift in the middle of the air would make it hard for any distraction to last very long.
My read on Saaya right now is that this:
Is the straw that broke the camel's back. While I'm not quite certain enough to base a vote on it, my feeling is that Saaya has been feeling incredibly insecure about herself and things either caused by her own powers, or things that her powers let her see that other people don't and has spent an awful lot of time convincing herself that she is perfectly normal and it's all Amu's fault that things are apparently falling to pieces around her.
And having someone directly suggest there was something wrong with her lit the spark on that whole buildup of flammable gas.
EDIT: Also, I want to just bring up the implications of the fact that we actually have a dedicated vote on Saaya at all. She could easily have been lumped in with the Classmates vote as another one of the classmates, or as a sub-vote in regards to Classmates. But she wasn't. Somehow, her reaction is important enough that we need to dedicate a whole separate vote to Saaya personally. That says she has a certain level of centrality to the whole affair and we need to be careful about her particular reaction.
Suggesting that if we, for instance, just told her to pair up with 2 other non-seers and get out of the classroom, it would NOT go to plan for some reason or other.
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Saaya's vote isn't lumped in with the other classmates because her role in the scene can't be lumped in with the other classmates, and because Amu's attitude toward her needs to be decided separately from Amu's handling of the other classmates.
Even if we vote to evacuate everyone, and to treat her just like the other classmates in the evacuation, the voting options have to account for other possible votes. The decision of how to handle Saaya isn't a sub-decision of the decision of how to handle the other classmates.
Her reaction is important, of course. She has relevant psionic powers, and even if the powers don't come up further, she can waste Amu's time and hinder her actions. That doesn't mean that it's so important that we need to dedicate time to a conversation with her before starting the evacuation or contacting other allies, especially if time really is tight. It also doesn't mean handling her the same as the other classmates will get a bad reaction, depending on what that handling is.
Baughn
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So, now that you've all probably guessed it already: This is an example of the reality glitches, albeit a small-scale, relatively harmless one compared to what you could have been facing. It's gotten diluted into Amu's other problems, similarly to every other bane. Though really that's just about what Amu herself is exposed to, not what happens overall.
In a meta sense, the purpose of this scene is to demonstrate that she's not great at everything, that she's still learning--and also that partial successes are possible, and psionics works according to rules that can be treated like physical laws. Or at least, it doesn't ignore physics completely.
(This is where I finally remember to mention: In general, I'll answer questions about anything that Amu would know in-story. It's a bit of a failure on my part to not show said knowledge in story, but I can't show everything all the time, especially her past. Expect to see a lot of such answers baked into the chapter after the answer, as well.)
The grade got reshuffled when they entered middle school. Just like Amu, Saaya's friends are all in parallel classes. Unlike Amu, she hasn't been able to keep in touch with them. Amu doesn't pay a lot of attention to classroom mechanics, but Saaya is... loud, so she's noticed that much.
It depends entirely on the approach you vote on; the base chance is for if you offer nothing. But without a subvote? No, she isn't dumb enough to try going through. She doesn't know if that's safe--it doesn't look safe--and she doesn't know if she can get back, let alone if she could get back after closing it.
Aoi would like not to be this archetype.
This is Amu trying to replicate Tadase's standard defence field, and doing quite badly at it. Turns out psionics isn't magic, who knew...
In a meta sense, the purpose of this scene is to demonstrate that she's not great at everything, that she's still learning--and also that partial successes are possible, and psionics works according to rules that can be treated like physical laws. Or at least, it doesn't ignore physics completely.
While you're considering this, it's worth noting that Nikaidou still works as a teacher in Seiyo Academy. Though he's no longer Amu's homeroom teacher; Nikaidou remains in the grade school section. I'm a bit unsure how useful he'd be, but that goes for basically everyone in this scene.
Also, I'm not going to destroy the world yet. We're not far enough into the story for that.
This is correct. While I understand the meta-level reasoning about Saaya clearly being important... the reason she's a separate vote is practical voting mechanics and narrative partitioning, not because she has to be to get a good result.
Saaaya does, indeed, care a lot about her public reputation. That's been obvious since the start, and Amu knows her well enough to say this.
(This is where I finally remember to mention: In general, I'll answer questions about anything that Amu would know in-story. It's a bit of a failure on my part to not show said knowledge in story, but I can't show everything all the time, especially her past. Expect to see a lot of such answers baked into the chapter after the answer, as well.)
Saaya did indeed have fans, though her fans were the typical rich-girl hangers on.
The grade got reshuffled when they entered middle school. Just like Amu, Saaya's friends are all in parallel classes. Unlike Amu, she hasn't been able to keep in touch with them. Amu doesn't pay a lot of attention to classroom mechanics, but Saaya is... loud, so she's noticed that much.
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So. Saaya feels overshadowed by Amu. Amu is cooler, cuter, better liked, and she's a magical girl. That's cheating, really, especially since Saaya was supposed to be the one with the cheat codes (money). Amu is... not actually going to stop having those traits. Saaya apparently is psionic for whatever that's worth, but she's either unaware, or doesn't think it's enough, or both (probably both). But maybe we can hope for her to deal with this in a more productive way?
I don't think we can plan out some kind of detailed scheme to make her see reason in the next 30 seconds, but we also don't need to because Amu is actually pretty good at getting through to people emotionally, even her sworn enemies. Especially her sworn enemies, arguably. We just have to decide how Amu feels about this, more than anything else, so:
[X] Plan Starry Sky
-[X] [Classmates] Evacuate the classroom, then split up into small groups to try and find Tsukasa
-[X] [Rift] We spotted something abnormal. Call Lulu and hope she can actually help. Stay with the rift in the meantime to keep an eye on it.
-[X] [Saaya] Take pity
Ignoring her or fighting her will probably just make things worse. I can't imagine she'd be happy to be pitied either, but it seems like a state of mind that might lead Amu to do something right here.
I don't think we can plan out some kind of detailed scheme to make her see reason in the next 30 seconds, but we also don't need to because Amu is actually pretty good at getting through to people emotionally, even her sworn enemies. Especially her sworn enemies, arguably. We just have to decide how Amu feels about this, more than anything else, so:
[X] Plan Starry Sky
-[X] [Classmates] Evacuate the classroom, then split up into small groups to try and find Tsukasa
-[X] [Rift] We spotted something abnormal. Call Lulu and hope she can actually help. Stay with the rift in the meantime to keep an eye on it.
-[X] [Saaya] Take pity
Ignoring her or fighting her will probably just make things worse. I can't imagine she'd be happy to be pitied either, but it seems like a state of mind that might lead Amu to do something right here.
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So the base 75% failure rate is if Amu panics and tries to close it from the outside without a plan, with odds changing in unknown capacity if she tries to step through - which is probably a bad idea and should not be tried, but will probably be what she's left with anyway, if she gets sucked in. I assume odds of handling it externally will never reach 100% success rate no matter what the stunt is, though I can think of at least 1 stunt that might boost the odds, if she had to try handle it personally.
Meanwhile Nikaidou is still in the grade school section, but that also means further away than Kukai or Tadase or Nagihiko and would take longer to get there than those 3 ex-Guardians, even if Amu had his number and could call him. Even longer, if she had to call Yaya or Rima first and get them to talk to him.
I mean, if the narrative is partitioned in such a way that Saaya is going to get a whole segment to herself.... that says a lot about her importance. But OK, I can't do much but take your word for it that we can badly screw up with Saaya and still have reasonable chances of getting a good result overall.
Which I am actually inclined to believe, mostly because I maintain that all the default voting choices for her are ostensibly bad choices, making me suspect that we are being encouraged by default to screw up handling Saaya. Leading me to assume that there's a follow-up plan in mind meant to capitalize on that route.
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Got more the impression that Saaya is in denial. Might have been called out at some point for having strange things happen around her, spent a lot of time trying to convince herself she's normal, with her main coping mechanism being to blame anything odd on Amu and is bitter that Amu gets away with her own shenanigans without anybody calling HER out for strangeness.
Just for context, when Lulu was messing her with in the TV anime, Saaya's evil form copied Amu's transformations and used evil versions of her attacks. She's always had a rivalry with Amu and also possibly an inferiority complex next to her. She usually acted like she was superior in canon.
In this chapter, we see her more scared and resentful than insisting she's better. According to what Amu could sense:
Fear was the first one. I suspect it might have been as much at herself as at Amu.
Do you think any of the default options are good ones? If so, which ones and why? If not, what do you think would work?
Baughn
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I always have plans for failure. Often they're interesting reading. Sometimes they even end better for Amu overall!
No comment on the consequences for Saaya in such an event.
- Location
- Laniakea
Okay, let me rephrase that: a follow-up plan that you are especially keen on seeing come to fruition.
....Persona-user Saaya maybe?
Baughn
Healing-type writer
- Location
- Dublin
Saaya is a convenient sacrifice, but I'm ambivalent on which outcome I want. Don't try to second-guess me; just vote for whatever you think is interesting, and/or a good idea.
- Pronouns
- She/Her
[X] Plan Starry Sky
-[X] [Classmates] Evacuate the classroom, then split up into small groups to try and find Tsukasa
-[X] [Rift] We spotted something abnormal. Call Lulu and hope she can actually help. Stay with the rift in the meantime to keep an eye on it.
-[X] [Saaya] Take pity
Edit: Adding approval vote for the slightly different plan
[X] Plan Starry Sky + containment.
-[X] [Classmates] Evacuate the classroom, then split up into small groups to try and find Tsukasa
-[X] [Rift] We spotted something abnormal. Call Lulu and hope she can actually help. Stay with the rift in the meantime to keep an eye on it.
-[X] [Saaya] Take pity
Edit: Adding approval vote for the slightly different plan
[X] Plan Starry Sky + containment.
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There was this:
So it sounds like this should be a plan vote.